NY139: Underground Mafia (Game over!)

implosion · Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:15 am

QTs:
Mafia: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/M5nDHjXytfA
Dead: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/V5MGLB2H9przL
Masons: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/jrDgvbS7FuTg
There’s no neighborhood topic because paraffin died night one and didn’t use their ability.

Setup:

Mafia

Two goons (Stringer Bell, Battousai)

One JOAT, with one shot each of: track, watch, ninja kill (bypasses watcher), strongman kill (bypasses bodyguards and bulletproof SK) (eep)

One traitor role cop. The traitor knows who the mafia are, and the mafia know that there is a traitor, but not that the traitor is a role cop (trekker)

Town

8 vanilla townies (uncledaphne, Mysterio, David Xanatos, Nunez, mastin2, AntB, Pine, StevieT92)

1 gunsmith, who will get false positives on both bodyguards and false negatives on the serial killer and the traitor pre-recruitment only (Hiraki)

1 watcher (Uprising)

2 bodyguards, one of whom was designated to die if they protect the same person and that person is killed (RedFF, SodaSpirit17)

1 1-shot recruiting mason (sorgster)

1 1-shot neighborizer (paraffin)

SK

1 bulletproof serial killer (TheAwesomeAll)

Spoiler: ”Night actions”

Spoiler: ”Role PMs”

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

None.

Passive

None.

Factional

None.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only town-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Town Gunsmith
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Investigation:
Each night, you may PM me the name of a player that you wish to investigate. I will return a result either indicating whether or not your target is in possession of a gun, or a statement indicating that your action failed.

Passive

None.

Factional

None.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only town-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Town Watcher
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Watch:
Each night, you may PM me the name of a player that you wish to watch. I will return a result indicating either a list of all people that targeted the person you indicated, a statement that the person wasn't targeted, or a statement that your action failed.

Passive

None.

Factional

None.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only town-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Bodyguard
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Guard:
Each night, you may PM me the name of a player who you'd like to guard. If that person is targeted by a kill that night, you will die in their place.

Passive

None.

Factional

None.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only town-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
One-shot Recruiting Mason
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Recruit:
On any night, but only once over the course of the game, you may PM me the name of a player that you'd like to attempt to recruit to your masonry. If that player is pro-town, they will join your masonry and retain any powers that they previously had. They will be confirmed as town to you and you will be confirmed as town to them. You will also gain the ability to talk at night in a quicktopic that I will provide. If that player is not pro-town, they will kill you.

Passive

None.

Factional

None.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only town-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:You have been recruited into a masonry with [player], who is town. You are now a mason.

your quicktopic is at: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/jrDgvbS7FuTg

The two of you can speak in it at night only, beginning night two.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Town One-shot Neighborizer
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Neighborize:
On any night, but only once over the course of the game, you may PM me the name of a player that you'd like to neighborize. Unless your action fails for some reason, you and that person will form a permanent quicktopic that will last until one of you dies. You may speak in that quicktopic at night only.

Passive

None.

Factional

None.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only town-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

None.

Passive

None.

Factional

Kill:
Each night, any member of the mafia may PM me the name of a person that the mafia would like to kill. The person PMing me the kill may specify who makes the kill as well as who is targeted.

Allies:
Your mafia faction consists of you, [player] (also a goon), and [player] (a jack of all trades). You may talk during night only in this quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/M5nDHjXytfA

Treachery afoot:
You've heard talk that somewhere out there is a traitor ready to join your cause. If the mafia uses their factional kill on that traitor, the mafia will instead recruit the traitor into the mafia as a normal member.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only mafia-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Mafia Jack of All Trades
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Track:
Once over the course of the game, you may PM me the name of a player who you'd like to track at night. I will return either a list of all people that that player targeted, a statement that they targeted no one, or a statement that your action failed.

Watch:
Once over the course of the game, you may PM me the name of a player who you'd like to watch at night. I will return either a list of all people that targeted that player, a statement that no one targeted them, or a statement that your action failed.

Strongman:
Once over the course of the game, if you are making the mafia kill, you may choose to make a strongman kill. If you do so, your kill will bypass any protective or blocking roles.

Ninja:
Once over the course of the game, if you are making the mafia kill, you may choose to make a ninja kill. If you do so, your kill will be undetectable to any trackers or watchers.

Passive

None.

Factional

Kill:
Each night, any member of the mafia may PM me the name of a person that the mafia would like to kill. The person PMing me the kill may specify who makes the kill as well as who is targeted.

Allies:
Your mafia faction consists of you, [player] (a mafia goon), and [player] (also a mafia goon). You may talk during night only in this quicktopic: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/M5nDHjXytfA

Treachery afoot:
You've heard talk that somewhere out there is a traitor ready to join your cause. If the mafia uses their factional kill on that traitor, the mafia will instead recruit the traitor into the mafia as a normal member.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only mafia-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Traitor Role Cop
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

Rolecop:
Each night, you may PM me the name of a player who you'd like to investigate. I'll return to you that player's role name.

Passive

Traitor:
If you are ever killed by the mafia, you will instead of dying be recruited into the mafia. You will retain your other abilities.

Factional

Treachery afoot:
If recruited, you will gain full access to the mafia quicktopic as if you were a regular mafia member. You know that the mafia consist of [player], [player], and [player], but you don't know their roles. They know that you exist, but they don't know who you are.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only mafia-aligned players remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion wrote:[rolecop result]

IN ADDITION, you have been recruited by the mafia. The quicktopic is here: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/M5nDHjXytfA

However, since it's day, you can't talk in the quicktopic until night [next night]; so don't.

implosion wrote:Hello, and welcome to Underground Mafia, [player]!

You are a
Bulletproof Serial Killer
.

You possess the following abilities:

Active

None.

Passive

Bulletproof:
You cannot be killed at night.

Factional

Kill:
Each night, you may PM me the name of a player you'd like to kill.

Universal

Vote:
You may vote to lynch other people during the day.

Speech:
You may talk during the day in the game thread, found here.

Win condition

You win when only you remain alive, or nothing can prevent the same from happening.

Please confirm via PM by indicating that you have read your role PM, by stating your role.

implosion · Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:23 am

So yeah, I honestly expected the game to be over on day five. In votecounts 5.5 and 5.6, the scumteam could have theoretically quickhammered Stevie. mastin replacing in was really a turning point, considering that he called 2 or 3 scum immediately. I was sure it'd be a scumwin, then i thought it would be a town win, then i had honestly no clue what would happen on day 8 until Stevie attacked AntB.

Comments on setup/modding/play/whatever? This game started almost three months ago.

eep · Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:45 am

phewwwww, good game, guys! Especially to the replace-ins who made the endgame fun!

And, good set-up, implosion. Although I wish one of my abilities had actually gotten me something useful. :p

Stringer Bell · Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:55 am

Thanks for pulling that one out, eep. Four straight scum lynches to lose the game would have been pretty embarrassing. We only needed one more mislynch in those last four days to win it, good thing it finally came. Scum MVP: eep.

Pine · Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:57 am

I are teh sad

eep was my top suspect going into endgame, and she managed to flip it around completely. GG.

AntB · Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:39 am

Blegh, come back to see what I can pull and I'm dead... gg guys. I would never have suspected eep anyway.

mastin2 · Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:47 am

In post 1805, AntB wrote:Blegh, come back to see what I can pull and I'm dead... gg guys. I would never have suspected eep anyway.

In post 1499, mastin2 wrote:("Who are you?"
Me? Oh, I'm the guy who skimmed the last few pages out of boredom a couple days back and PM'd the mod with a list of random suspects;
trekker and eep
being two of them.

In post 1502, mastin2 wrote:Don't have the PM, yet, but don't need it; already know I'm town. For the record:
CSL and Stevie are both town
.
AntB was the third I suspected as being scum, but I no longer think that to be the case;
I think Ant's a mislynch
, now.

Eep looks like living, breathing scum
from the last few pages, along with a few comments I saw from eep in the middle of the game.

I was quite frankly a little skeptical of Bat's claim

*snip*
Tl;dr, Trekker and Stringer are scum, with eep as their most likely buddy.

*I* did...

mastin2 · Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:53 am

It's pretty impressive if you read the mason QT. I basically told Sorgster that he should lynch Bat if I died, since I was pretty much the only person suspicious of Bat coupled with my defense of Uprising.

And that if Bat flipped scum, that there were four scum instead of three.
And told him exactly what he needed to do in order to net another scum lynch or two. (Fortunately, the scum managed to basically do that themselves--trekker protecting Bat removed all doubt we had.

)
AND told him that eep was my main suspect for the final scum, and I basically called exactly how things would play out. (Minus the eep-victory. :/)

It kinda sucks that I was triple-confirmed-town. If I wasn't, then maybe people woulda thought about how my reads were perhaps dangerous to the scum.

mastin2 · Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:56 am

Oh, and by the way--this is only the third-ever game I haven't read the entirety of after replacing in. (The first being a Mini run by Kairyuu two years ago, where I replaced into lylo. The second being Powerrox's Mini, where I was a bodyguard and by my very nature wouldn't be doing my job if I lived to see another day.

) It was awesome that I got pretty much all the info I needed from the last few pages of the game, including nailing 2/4 scum before replacing in, adding a third to the list, correctly calling the three VTs in lylo as mislynches, and casting suspicion onto the fourth.

It just wasn't enough.

eep · Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:29 am

^yeah, that was quite scary, I didn't think I'd make it through. We probably shouldn't have tried the trekker/battousai thing, just to have that backup.

I also wasn't sure how Pine or AntB were planning to vote, and I seriously considered killing off one of them instead of sorgster, who I thought was more likely to lean towards stevie.

Battousai · Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:32 am

I honestly didn't know why everyone was believing Uprising over me, especially when a more-likely-town-than-not-based-on-stringer-flipping-scum-role-cop claimed that I was a hider. Everyone was all, ya but uprising is a town read for defending well when attacking scummy or just wasn't even participating (antb).

Plus I didn't understand it when it was me vs Uprising. Why would there be some other reason for Uprising to claim that no one visited TAA and for me to claim I did? One of has to be scum. I just don't get the thinking that because my claim is hider that there must be something hidden (even after I said that my role PM stated that if I hide behind someone who is investigated, I will be investigated as well).

Mastin- Your theory that I was scum if you died was flawed. True, but flawed. You were pretty much considered town by everyone. Double that with you leading to stringer's lynch would net you an immediate kill no matter if I was town or not.

In the end, town played well do to Pine and mastin. If they didn't replace in, it would have been over much earlier. Hell, if I didn't rekindle the mass claim it would have ended then with a quicklynch at deadline (game was seriously stalled and was no fun).

Sorry to the rest of the scum team for my gambit. I would have thought town would buy my hider claim if trekker claimed that I was a hider and Uprising was no result (hint, town was supposed to think Uprising is a godfather and immune to investigations, and me hiding with him would give him double results). Though, trekker messed up the claim, it should have claimed to a lynch, imo, before then.

Pine · Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:59 am

In post 1810, Battousai wrote:In the end, town played well do to Pine and mastin. If they didn't replace in, it would have been over much earlier.

We should totally replace into more games, yo. I'm in too many games right now, want to hydra and go hunting for replacement games some time soon?

mastin2 · Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:01 am

In post 1811, Pine wrote:
In post 1810, Battousai wrote:In the end, town played well do to Pine and mastin. If they didn't replace in, it would have been over much earlier.

We should totally replace into more games, yo. I'm in too many games right now, want to hydra and go hunting for replacement games some time soon?

Most games don't allow for hydra-replacements, but if we find one that would, I'd love to warm up Palisade again.

Pine · Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:11 am

Faraday · Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:37 am

In post 1812, mastin2 wrote:Most games don't allow for hydra-replacements, but if we find one that would, I'd love to warm up Palisade again.

(your more likely to be allowed replace in as a hydra actually, especially if the mod is desperate he won't give a fuck. anyone who allows hydras allows them to replace too, afaik, so i'd not be too worried about that rule)

Faraday · Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:38 am

you're*

/lurk

sorgster · Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:40 am

I wish trekker was killed and I managed to get a successful bandwagon on him. Eep simply had to be scum, I don't understand how that got changed.

mastin2 · Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:41 am

Hmm...Faraday...not the mod, not the backup mod, not a reviewer...

...Alright, which of you players is the alt?

Battousai · Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:42 am

You got me...

StevieT92 · Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:51 am

god. damnit.

eep · Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:03 pm

In post 1816, sorgster wrote:I wish trekker was killed and I managed to get a successful bandwagon on him. Eep simply had to be scum, I don't understand how that got changed.

trekker's bussing saved me.

also, it makes sense for people to be cautious during mylo, and I think my biggest weakness as scum is the balancing act involved in looking out for my partners/myself. when it got to just me, it became more of a game of chess, and everyone had already said the sorts of things they looked out for as scumtells.

Pine · Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:38 pm

In post 1818, Battousai wrote:You got me...

I lynched Faradayscum? I'm so proud!

redFF · Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:11 pm

ahh screw 2 bgs

implosion · Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:27 pm

trekker was bussing every scum member (especially SB and eep) from the get-go. I'm not sure if it was an attempt to get noticed or just an attempt to distance, but either way, it definitely did help eep survive the last day. As for the other scum in general, it feels like they just managed to stay under the radar for long enough. Enough people did enough scummy things to get the scumteam through the early days without any casualties.

The other thing that I think did the town in in the end was the fact that the power roles never really got anything useful done. On the night that hiraki finally chose a mafioso to investigate, he died. Uprising never saw anything useful. The masonry managed to survive for a long time, but it really wasn't enough.

StevieT92 · Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:19 pm

sucks that I had the scum team figured out, and that we could've clutched it out.

I also have to blame the first few lynchees for this loss, what the hell guys. That was a sad showing as townies.

Also I was against the mass claim but I didn't think the scum were going to bungle it as hard as they did. If they would've all claimed VT like I thought they would they would've won much earlier. I don't think we would've EVER lynched trekker without him being caught in that lie.