NY 178: MASQUERADE -- GAME OVER

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Post Post #100  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:32 am

In post 97, Csareo wrote:VOTE: TSO
Something's off about your play this game, and how this wagon formed on me.
I don't like it.....

What about the wagon formation is wrong?

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Post Post #101  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:32 am

I don't respond well to joking. I try to take everything at face value.
Scum usually mask a fucked up tell with humor.
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Post Post #102  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:32 am

Who exactly is on this dastardly wagon of scum, Csareo?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso" -Marquis

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Post Post #103  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:33 am

I joke about everything.

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Post Post #104  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:34 am

In post 100, TierShift wrote:
In post 97, Csareo wrote:VOTE: TSO
Something's off about your play this game, and how this wagon formed on me.
I don't like it.....

What about the wagon formation is wrong?

It started to quick, and mostly as a esult of TSO making comments on my meta.
But yeah, usually wagons go faster early game. That isn't suspicious, but what has me off is how garmr and TSO kept interacting with the wagon.

TSO's joking and botched humor is also setting off a "meta" tell from when I've played with him in the past.
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Post Post #105  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:35 am

Reviver*3 is a none standard role Csareo and bastard one at that it would be to powerful.

Pedit:Lol tiershift I'm a one shot bulletproof proof one shot vig one shot neighbourizer one shot doctor.

pedit 2: got damn so many pedits not bothered reading them till I posted -__-

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Post Post #106  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:35 am

I've seen town TSO, and this is not town TSO.
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Post Post #107  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:35 am

In post 104, Csareo wrote:It started to quick

?

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Post Post #108  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:36 am

In post 105, Garmr wrote:Reviver*3 is a none standard role Csareo and bastard one at that it would be to powerful.

Pedit:Lol tiershift I'm a one shot bulletproof proof one shot vig one shot neighbourizer one shot doctor.

pedit 2: got damn so many pedits not bothered reading them till I posted -__-

Which is why I thought he might be scum playing a fake claim gambit.
I see I'm wrong, and don't match up to Tiershifts higher form of humor.
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Post Post #109  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:38 am

In post 106, Csareo wrote:I've seen town TSO, and this is not town TSO.

1 game meta? what are the main differences with him before?

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Post Post #110  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:39 am

TSO what is your read on csareo right now?

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Post Post #111  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:40 am

In post 107, TierShift wrote:
In post 104, Csareo wrote:It started to quick

?

The wagon was established by GM and Boonskies, but quickly gained traction in result to comments that TSO made, him even joining the wagon in its 4th slot.
His opening claim said that I'm being to "serious", and he seemed sincere, but when garmr brings forward accusations that I'm a VI, he instantly switches his stance saying my posts are that of a "VI"
This isn't only contradictory, but a "two birds one stone" scum tell.
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Post Post #112  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:43 am

talking about that...
In post 49, Boonskiies wrote:unvote

why the unvote?

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Post Post #113  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:43 am

In post 109, TierShift wrote:
In post 106, Csareo wrote:I've seen town TSO, and this is not town TSO.

1 game meta? what are the main differences with him before?

I've never seen him joke so much, and he has a tendency to open with large tunnels and anaylisis at the beginning.
He takes play very seriously, but you can see an evident draw back when he is scum. He also tries hard to agree with every statement brought forward, even if it's contradictory.
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Post Post #114  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:44 am

I'm more curious as to why their are votes on me at all.
Can someone restate the case, besides me rolefishing confirmable and untouchable roles?
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Post Post #115  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:49 am

In post 111, Csareo wrote:
In post 107, TierShift wrote:
In post 104, Csareo wrote:It started to quick

?

The wagon was established by GM and Boonskies, but quickly gained traction in result to comments that TSO made, him even joining the wagon in its 4th slot.
His opening claim said that I'm being to "serious", and he seemed sincere, but when garmr brings forward accusations that I'm a VI, he instantly switches his stance saying my posts are that of a "VI"
This isn't only contradictory, but a "two birds one stone" scum tell.


Me and Tso have had dealings with a person I consider a vi's (she's a nice vi through) recently and I can't elaborate on for reasons. So that's why I see tso's response as understandable.

In post 114, Csareo wrote:I'm more curious as to why their are votes on me at all.
Can someone restate the case, besides me rolefishing confirmable and untouchable roles?


Tbh I don't really see one unless they want a policy lynch. Your better off asking them directly than someone off the wagon.

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Post Post #116  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:55 am

@Garmr, do you find it odd that TSO tried to associate himself with me when he thought my posts would recieve positive reception, but when more people started to vote for me, he tried to distance himself with a VI assertion?
In post 48, T S O wrote:Caesar, you elephant, stop being serious so early!

We've got about 150 pages for that shit.

VOTE: CAESAR

In post 60, T S O wrote:This is the first game I have ever seen from Csareo where his opening post was not astoundingly scummy. He must be Town!

In post 63, T S O wrote:I don't think you understand the calibre of Csareo's townplay, to be blunt.

But here he's just showing his ability to scumhunt in a mediocre fashion, whereas there he was actively justifying any scummy actions that he did?

It doesn't? The whole point of it is that if he opens scummily as both, then in theory, an opening which isn't quite as scummy should point towards him being Town.

Now with 5 votes on me...
In post 86, T S O wrote:Wait, I think I'm wrong here.

In post 90, T S O wrote:Idiocy confirmed!

PEdit: Sweetheart, I'm not sure if you were reading or not, but I was actually the one calling you town.

In post 94, T S O wrote:I'm fairly sure you'll rack yourself up as the VI without any help on my part, but okay.
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Post Post #117  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 10:58 am

In post 88, Csareo wrote:
In post 61, goodmorning wrote:Neighbour claim is indeed completely irrelevant to what's been posted thus far.

If it is irrelevant, then why did you post it? I am also curious as to who you're most suspicious of in your neighborhood.

I was answering Cho's response; I said she hadn't posted anything relevant to the game, she said she'd posted that, and I clarified that it wasn't relevant to what had been posted so far, which is what I meant.
I haven't seen enough to provide a value judgement.

Because it was before the game started, because neither is a particularly typical role, because claiming Reviver in particular would be a good way to get yourself killed, because they're not stupid.
You may also notice that Muffin didn't exactly claim Supersaint.
Why?

Well tiershif self confirmed his role in answering the self revive. He is absolutely off limits for a lynch, as his role is both confirmable and powerful.
And he wont be killed.......... he can self revive.

I'm 99.9999999999% sure that was a good old dose of Tier sarcasm.
If he is what he says he is, which he isn't, best play would be to kill him anyway because no Docs would be on him. So he could revive himself, so what? He could revive any other NK anyway.

In post 89, Csareo wrote:Is anyone else suspicious of the early tunnel on me, and how TSO seemed to fuel it?

Who's tunneling you?

In post 106, Csareo wrote:I've seen town TSO, and this is not town TSO.

I've seen both TSOs, and it's too soon to tell.

In post 108, Csareo wrote:Which is why I thought he might be scum playing a fake claim gambit.

lolololololololololololol ok

In post 111, Csareo wrote:The wagon was established by GM and Boonskies, but quickly gained traction in result to comments that TSO made, him even joining the wagon in its 4th slot.

bold: No, it wasn't.

Am I the only one not hugely fond of Garmr's play rn? I don't know what it is though.
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Post Post #118  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:00 am

Thanks for your cooperation GM. Yes, I'm a little suspicious of Garmr, but I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, as it is still way to early to get solid reads.
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Post Post #119  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:01 am

Sorry, tiershift is tunneling me, and you a little, but I found there was more reasoning to your questions.
Even if we disagree on the conclusions.
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Post Post #120  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:02 am

In post 116, Csareo wrote:@Garmr, do you find it odd that TSO tried to associate himself with me when he thought my posts would recieve positive reception, but when more people started to vote for me, he tried to distance himself with a VI assertion?
In post 48, T S O wrote:Caesar, you elephant, stop being serious so early!

We've got about 150 pages for that shit.

VOTE: CAESAR

In post 60, T S O wrote:This is the first game I have ever seen from Csareo where his opening post was not astoundingly scummy. He must be Town!

In post 63, T S O wrote:I don't think you understand the calibre of Csareo's townplay, to be blunt.

But here he's just showing his ability to scumhunt in a mediocre fashion, whereas there he was actively justifying any scummy actions that he did?

It doesn't? The whole point of it is that if he opens scummily as both, then in theory, an opening which isn't quite as scummy should point towards him being Town.

Now with 5 votes on me...
In post 86, T S O wrote:Wait, I think I'm wrong here.

In post 90, T S O wrote:Idiocy confirmed!

PEdit: Sweetheart, I'm not sure if you were reading or not, but I was actually the one calling you town.

In post 94, T S O wrote:I'm fairly sure you'll rack yourself up as the VI without any help on my part, but okay.


I think that would have the opposite effect and make you more associated with him. I Isoed him again and he hasn't unvoted you and I was under the impression he did after he called you most likely town which is weird.

btw I am male not a female but call me they for every single voice in my head.

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Post Post #121  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:12 am

I Isoed him again and he hasn't unvoted you and I was under the impression he did after he called you most likely town which is weird

This is also true.
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Post Post #122  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:19 am

In post 119, Csareo wrote:Sorry, tiershift is tunneling me

I am?

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Post Post #123  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:29 am

In post 65, Thor665 wrote:
In post 61, goodmorning wrote:Yes, I'm in a Neighbourhood with 3 others and Cho. No, I don't think we can say there's absolutely Scum in the Neighbourhood, though it is likely.

Maybe.
It's multi-neighborhood though.
Kind of works with the Masquerade theme I suppose.

Excuse me? When did Aegor say this game had multiple neighborhoods? I joined this game thinking it wouldn't be one of the many recent and ongoing mass-neighborhood games that this site has seemed to have a fetish for recently.

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Post Post #124  (ISO)  » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:00 pm

In post 89, Csareo wrote:Is anyone else suspicious of the early tunnel on me, and how TSO seemed to fuel it?


No. TSO tunneling would just tell me TSO is in the game. Also, see post 90.

Tier, I counter. I'm a 3-shot self reviving vig/cop. In addition to that, I'm a lie detector and got that your claim was a lie. Caught scum!

Csar wrote:he has a tendency to open with large tunnels


So TSO tunnels as town but what you interpereted as him tunneling you made you think he was scum?

About the neighbor thing, I kind of think it needs to be treated as irrelevant now. A 5 player neighborhood + Thor's neighborhood = yeah, there's probably scum but just because the pool is so large. That being said, I'm townreading Cho and Thor. And I'm...actually...not feeling like unvoting Pere so there's that.

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