Large Normal 211: Scientific Mafia

[Inferno390]

VOTE: TIAM

Because he said he would actually be good this phase, but as far as I can see, he's providing nothing to town. Again.
Mulch is town.
I'm treating Gamma as confrimed town. By his play the last day, I find scum unlikely. Treat us as masons.
Who else was Leaf scumreading?

[Gamma Emerald]

Nobody here uses wagonomics anyway

excuse me I do

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't really care but everyone else wants to use the vig. No point arguing over that.

I think we leave firebringer alive for a while, so if he's really Cop, we get more results, and scum have to kill him or let us get the results. If he's scum we don't really lose anything.

first we need him to out his check on nsg

[profii]

I've possibly underestimated a 20 player game, it's moving a little bit faster than I expected. Apologies.

I'm not particularly inclined to deal any further with the hood, given we have picked 1 scum out of it. I know some of you are mentioning SSTT but I'm going to sort elsewhere for now.

I think Mulch & Pine are fairly obviously town - furthermore, I prefer the idea of letting the day run on before we lynch. I'm assuming from what Pine is saying, he has to kill tonight? so let's help him.

I also think TIAM is probably town.

Interestingly, going back to when Mordin and TIAM were nearly level pegging we had

Mordin:
Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion, Mulch

TIAM
Egg, northsidegal, RedFlavor, Inferno390, Beefster, Flubbernugget


At this point, Nos wasn't voting, so that says to me, Scum probably weren't bussing at this point. So from the Mordin wagon, we know FL and I'm happy with TIAM/Mulch/Gamma. I'll give Tex/Aus/Arch a pass for now. If you pushed me, I'd lean Archwing, purely for his earlier buddying towards me is causing paranoia.

So then, let's look at how the lynch came about:

Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion

, Nictis, Theta Alpine,

Mulch

, Flubbernugget,

Mordin Solus

I've sorted the strikes in my head, I'm happy with Mulch and we know Mordin

excluding mulch who I'm happy with, only flubber nugget jumped over... let's go ISO diving...

ok naked vote and no real explanation - early analysis, flubber bussed.

VOTE: flubber

[profii]

Who else was Leaf scumreading?

my notes say Pine, Mordin, Firebringer, but I'm behind

[TwoInAMillion]

Inferno and Beef are almost lock scum at this point to me.

[Gamma Emerald]

why is texcat stricken

[Theta Alpine]

I've possibly underestimated a 20 player game, it's moving a little bit faster than I expected. Apologies.

I'm not particularly inclined to deal any further with the hood, given we have picked 1 scum out of it. I know some of you are mentioning SSTT but I'm going to sort elsewhere for now.

I think Mulch & Pine are fairly obviously town - furthermore, I prefer the idea of letting the day run on before we lynch. I'm assuming from what Pine is saying, he has to kill tonight? so let's help him.

I also think TIAM is probably town.

Interestingly, going back to when Mordin and TIAM were nearly level pegging we had

Mordin:
Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion, Mulch

TIAM
Egg, northsidegal, RedFlavor, Inferno390, Beefster, Flubbernugget


At this point, Nos wasn't voting, so that says to me, Scum probably weren't bussing at this point. So from the Mordin wagon, we know FL and I'm happy with TIAM/Mulch/Gamma. I'll give Tex/Aus/Arch a pass for now. If you pushed me, I'd lean Archwing, purely for his earlier buddying towards me is causing paranoia.

So then, let's look at how the lynch came about:

Flavor Leaf, Archwing, Gamma Emerald, texcat, Ausuka, TwoInAMillion

, Nictis, Theta Alpine,

Mulch

, Flubbernugget,

Mordin Solus

I've sorted the strikes in my head, I'm happy with Mulch and we know Mordin

excluding mulch who I'm happy with, only flubber nugget jumped over... let's go ISO diving...

ok naked vote and no real explanation - early analysis, flubber bussed.

VOTE: flubber

i would add the fact that flubber was previously on the counterwagon

speaking of which
VOTE: flubbernugget
then pine can shoot beefster

[Archwing]

why is texcat stricken

Yeah I'd be curious to know how you got there.

[Archwing]

Inferno and Beef are almost lock scum at this point to me.

Inferno is 82% chance town.

[Beefster]

I feel like we should have you shoot beef, and lynch someone else

I'm fine with this. Fire away.

[Mulch]

:fry:

[profii]

why is texcat stricken

Yeah I'd be curious to know how you got there.

brain going quicker than eyes, thought the first half of the lynch was the same as wagon, so just ran a strike through the last person that matched without checking. tex=not cleared!

[TwoInAMillion]

Let's lynch Beef and get this over with.

[Pine]

Baby shower over. Good times, totally exhausted.

Lynch beef, shoot fire imo

I'm not shooting Fire. I think he's Town.

I feel like we should have you shoot beef, and lynch someone else

This is my thinking. I'll take the guaranteed NK on the primary suspect, let's gamesolve the fourth scumzor.

Theta is probably town

Yep. Welcome to the Townbloc (probationary status).

I'm down for a beef lynch today, but I agree he's probably better sorted out with a vig.

I was looking at texcat/slot overnight, and didn't really see much action there.

I'm interested in Pine's 2shot ascetic claim. Just to be clear, Pine, that two shot is not activated, right? it's a passive thing?

Ausuka is probably town?

inferno is most definitely town.

ehm, basically i'm cool with
{firebringer, Beef, NSG(this one would need work though), redflavor, flubber}

The Vig is 2-shot, Ascetic is just a standard modifier. Try it with a comma: Ascetic, 2-shot Vigilante.

btw the reason why beef is better as a vig than a lynch is that he is a pretty consensus scumread and it's better to vig those, while you should be lynching in non-consensus scumreads because that helps generate further content

Agree with this.

also archwing
the town tier and scum tier are for confirmed town and scum

also i believe the 2-shot ascetic vig is an active variation
as in ascetic only when making a vig shot and only has 2 vig shots

Honestly I didn't ask, but standard construction of this sort of thing is that they're independent of one another. If it was an active thing, I'd have been told. As in 2-shot Ascetic Vig, rather than Ascetic 2-shot vig.

Why do we give a shit?

I don't really care but everyone else wants to use the vig. No point arguing over that.

I think we leave firebringer alive for a while, so if he's really Cop, we get more results, and scum have to kill him or let us get the results. If he's scum we don't really lose anything.

This is a good point.

I feel like we should have you shoot beef, and lynch someone else

I'm fine with this. Fire away.

u bulletproof scum bro?

Still feeling Profii!scum.

[Pine]

TwoInAMillion
Mulch

Theta Alpine
Pine
Gamma Emerald

Inferno390

Ausuka

northsidegal
texcat
Egg
Archwing
Nictis
Flubbernugget
Firebringer
RedFlavor

Beefster

profii

This is where I'm at. I want to sort the italicized names before we commit to any lynch.

[Theta Alpine]

As in 2-shot Ascetic Vig, rather than Ascetic 2-shot vig.

which is why i said later that i had misread your role

[Pine]

As in 2-shot Ascetic Vig, rather than Ascetic 2-shot vig.

which is why i said later that i had misread your role

ok we cool now

[Assemblerotws]

Vote Count 2.02

Not Voting [8]:

northsidegal, texcat, Archwing, Flubbernugget, Firebringer, RedFlavor, Pine, Nictis

Beefster [3]:

Mulch, TwoInAMillion, Gamma Emerald

Flubbernugget [2]:

profii, Theta Alpine

Ausuka [1]:

Egg

Firebringer [1]:

Beefster

RedFlavor [1]:

Ausuka

TwoInAMillion [1]:

Inferno390

With

17

alive, it takes

9

to lynch. At deadline,

Beefster

would be lynched.

Day ends in (expired on 2018-04-28 11:30:00) on

April 28, 2018

.

[texcat]

i do not think redflavor is important enough for a lynch

WTF does this mean?

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Have I said how much I hate all of the fake claims? I was leaning scum on Northside, but now I'm not sure what to think. I'll await further developments and claims, I reckon.

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VOTE: Beefster
I quoted this yesterday in 1390 wrt RedFlavor sheeping it, but it looks scummy in its own right.

Quick looked scummy before the whole policy vote thing, but I find the wagon unsettling. There are probably at least 2 scum on it and FL is probably not one of them. I'm going to stay far away from a wagon that has grown by sheer opportunism.

VOTE: 2iam

Valid counterwagon.

FoS: Mulch
I feel like he's throwing a lot of ideas around but not really scumhunting.

[Firebringer]

Pine why am I not a Mason with u anymore

[Pine]

Pine why am I not a Mason with u anymore

Because we're over here gamesolving and you're not.

Don't worry bro, you're still a TR. Mulch wanted me to shoot you and I said no.

[Nictis]

Currently doing an ISO of all the people you put in italics Pine, took out this point from my progress because I thought it needed to be shared with you.

1140: This one needs to be read, so grabbing quote.

I think it's more likely he didn't like drawing scum and was looking for an excuse to replace out.

Got my links?

sheeping kmd, the voice of reason.

VOTE: tiam

i'd also be willing to follow mulch onto flubbernugget, although he's still voting nosferatu?

Major red flag thrown here, Nos was their null read and they have NOT commented on them before. Reading this post, I'm definitely voting NSG now.
[/spoiler]
1140 earned a vote. VOTE: NorthSideGal

[Mulch]

VOTE: TIAM

Because he said he would actually be good this phase, but as far as I can see, he's providing nothing to town. Again.
Mulch is town.
I'm treating Gamma as confrimed town. By his play the last day, I find scum unlikely. Treat us as masons.
Who else was Leaf scumreading?

So tempted to just snapvote this lol

[Firebringer]

I am more in favor of this

VOTE: Texcat