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[Menalque]

because it was an atrocious claim and he chose not to target the conf!town N2?

Mena i don't get your thought process here.
Apparently it was a "bad claim" because i claimed when it was looking like i was very close to getting lynched. So what you're saying is that i should claim when i only have 2 or 3 votes on me? Why in the actual fuck would i claim a power role and expose myself to the mafia when there's still the possibility i don't need to? This is such a retarded way of thinking i just don't get how you're still hammering this point like it holds any value.
Also the fact that there WAS another protective role that wouldn't roleblock Chemist on N2, but he stupidly chose to defend me for some dumb reason.

so I thought I'd respond to the substance of this point:

the reason I thought it was a bad claim is that I thought any protectives should have always been on chemist as he was conf!town and had the ability to nail further scum meaning scum were basically never leaving him alive

I didn't want you to claim immediately or anything, but I found it really suspect that you hadn't crumbed until later as I think later game crumbing s more indicative of mafia bc mafia potentially have to claim around how the game state has evolved rather than just true claiming their role regardless

therefore it's harder for mafia to crumb in let's say the first 100-150 posts bc they'd have to predict accurately which claim they'd need for later on. yes, this can somewhat be avoided by crumbing multiple roles, but that's also risky bc if it gets noticed then you're p much outed imo

there's also another reason why I was sticking hard to my guns: I was under a reasonable amount of suspicion at this point, if memory serves me right, so I needed to double down on the argument to show that I mislynched you out of genuine conviction that you were scum instead of scum!me mislynching you to eliminate a widely TR player

[davesaz]

I'm ok with PT release.
Hard to believe but I think this is the first time I've endgamed as scum. There have been team wins before but I haven't survived.

[Almost50]

I am fine with releasing the Scum PT as well.

Nice job dvae & Reundo

[Menalque]

incidentally does this count as papa leaf's last scum win of 2019 or his first of 2020

[Menalque]

I gotta say, looking back on it all now it seems so clear who the scumteam were

it's like I have 2020 vision or something

[PenguinPower]

First of 2020.

[PenguinPower]

it's like I have 2020 vision or something

[Menalque]

it's like I have 2020 vision or something

[AaronFrost]

So why were Norwegian and Wake lynched again?

I thought it was Hectic and Ruendo at the end there. Ruendo we only knew about because of Chemist's guilty.

Well played scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm NOT okay releasing my personal PT at this current moment

[PenguinPower]

Personal PT's won't be released unless explicitly stated.

[Gamma Emerald]

:thumbup:
I'll leave a note in there for you when it's time

[chennisden]

Very well played. I did really bad here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A lot of people kept thinking i was scummy because they claimed i was playing similarly to my scumplay in nomination mafia for some reason. Chennis, PM and Mena all thought this i think.

[chennisden]

I think I was too all over the place this game for my voting Dave at the end to have meant anything.

I think scum was right that it'd be hard to parse who I was a threat to

[Menalque]

I think I was too all over the place this game for my voting Dave at the end to have meant anything.

I think scum was right that it'd be hard to parse who I was a threat to

ngl I think at 8 players I hadn't realised you were dead and was wondering if you were scum for being quiet

[PenguinPower]

A lot of people kept thinking i was scummy because they claimed i was playing similarly to my scumplay in nomination mafia for some reason. Chennis, PM and Mena all thought this i think.

I don't think your play was similar.

[NorwegianboyEE]

A lot of people kept thinking i was scummy because they claimed i was playing similarly to my scumplay in nomination mafia for some reason. Chennis, PM and Mena all thought this i think.

I don't think your play was similar.

Yeah, that's exactly why it confused me.

[davesaz]

I was a little surprised at how easily Reundo got townreads. And a bit worried that I'd be called out for not jumping on him for not pushing cases.
My Menalque strategy was to be what was expected while having just a tint of distrust there so it didn't come across as buddying.

I thought Hectic was the biggest danger. Pushing on Dunn as having to be the partner regardless of who else was scum was something that just happened. I tried to slip into town me and suddenly it came to me -- if Hectic vs Menalque is tvs then Dunn

has

to be scum so why not push the POE to get the easier scum first. And then nobody really bit on it and I was like, oh well guess this is going to deadline.

[Menalque]

I mostly TR reundo for the big post he made on like D4 or something where I thought the game was heavily apathied and he seemed to be trying to get it started again

[AaronFrost]

A lot of people kept thinking i was scummy because they claimed i was playing similarly to my scumplay in nomination mafia for some reason. Chennis, PM and Mena all thought this i think.

I've never played with you before until this game (even though it was limited since I died N1) but you were pretty obvtown in my eyes.

[Luca Blight]

wow, my N2 action did work! I'll accept all apologies.

You are literally the reason Town lost this game, I hope you realise that.

[Dolly Parton]

wow, my N2 action did work! I'll accept all apologies.

You are literally the reason Town lost this game, I hope you realise that.

I am A reason not THE reason.

JK could have protected Chem on N2 as well, granted we wouldn't have got that Reundo guilty had he.

Also,

you

personally vigged 2 town slots as well. One of those was on N1 and every noob knows that vigs should hoslter N1 unless you have solid evidence.

I had VCA stuff on Dave but no one was interested, maybe IU didn't push hard enough but I was probably tzoo exhausted from trying to not get mislynched and repeatedly having to try and justify my bad N2 actions. But saying I am THE reason is totally wrong.

[Boonskiies]

Don’t kill scum Flavor first!

Good work team, thanks for the carry.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Jailkeeper refraining from targeting Chemist on that night is acceptable. However a doctor targeting someone else other than the confirmed town is just weird. I mean i'm honored you thought i was so town you'd target me, but there was just no chance scum would want to shoot me there.