Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[Commander Shepard]

63 pages...Anyone got a TLDR?

[Commander Shepard]

I'm starting to think that maybe GIF is in my 'most likely scum in poescum' list instead of randommidget

Please talk a bit about your scum list. It looks like Creature is where people want to go based on the votes but I want to see if I can sort anyone before we go into night.

[Commander Shepard]

Do I need to hint even more

AA9 you should vote Creature. I need to test something.

Why are you doing what you’re doing?

I mean I see it but it is NAI to me and I want to know why and catch up before the hammer falls.

[Commander Shepard]

Does anyone know of any games Shoshin has completed recently or something I can get a feel from them on?

I am loathe to the “Not consistent” argument on someone who may be a newbie. I need to look at what you posted in detail but some of that concerns me.

Can you talk about why you townread the other slots? I find it odd you would have a townread on my slot when it’s been dormant a while.

[Commander Shepard]

honestly

the only reason I don't have joral locktowned is because he flaked and really just kind of petered out over time

his early posting was really really town

How so?

If you are struggling to explain why find the post that town pinged you.

[Commander Shepard]

I don't think we are in a hammer range but
UNVOTE:

I will be here later today or tomorrow.

p.edit shoshin has recently registered so all her games are new

Please put your vote back on.

I wanna see what GiF was alluding to. It would help sort GiF. Based on the vote count from the mod it is unlikely a lynch is falling anywhere else.

That post gave me a light scum ping.

Are you under Reaper influence?

[Commander Shepard]

EDI says there are problems there.

Did Nico claim an investigative? Did they claim cop on nancy? You said an assume. Why would you out something like that? If they did there would be no assuming. If they didn’t why make it public knowledge?

Why would poking your slot be tantamount to suicide? I am seeing some things I find horrible right now. Hell I went on three suicidal missions and saved the universe each time so guess I like pain.

In order to sort your slot I must poke it.

[Commander Shepard]

Can you show me a mastina post? Good to know you’re a hydra.

And so you’re saying I should trust you.

[Commander Shepard]

Please put your vote back on.

I wanna see what GiF was alluding to. It would help sort GiF. Based on the vote count from the mod it is unlikely a lynch is falling anywhere else.

That post gave me a light scum ping.

Are you under Reaper influence?

I'd prefer to see Chickadee get to the thread before we move forward. My unvote has nothing to do with who's waggoned.
No clue what Reaper influence is, sorry.

Reapers are scum.

That’s my way of asking your alignment.

Are you scum? Or are you town?

[Commander Shepard]

like

she outright threatened to investigate us even after myself as well as two other slots in the game told her why it's a really bad idea (I can quote if I absolutely have to)

that is ballsy as fuck for scum-nico

Like you’ve already outed it might as well quote it.

I am not arguing she is scum. To the contrary. I am arguing why you would out the thought unless she claimed already. And if she did why would you assume?

[Commander Shepard]

Nico and Nancy are town. Cool.

You can go in my null pile. I have seen some town pings that outweigh my scum ones reality check.

Sajj is probably still scum though.

[Commander Shepard]

I could definitely go for an investigate on Sajj or the worst.

I would prefer worst or Sajj. Reason being is in my skim there is not a lot of Shoshin love. So many that will figure itself out and people are more inclined to poke Shoshin.

They read like a flustered newbie. Then again I read like a spoiled teenager. What do I know?

[Commander Shepard]

btw regarding 'the scum plan if we're scum' part

mastina is very good at creating plans as scum and creating situations that are better longer term for scum
I'm competent at reading the gamestate and can find good options to progress it along (I can prove this, I won corpse party as scum almost entirely through good nightkills), but I'm not necessarily the best at direct manipulation

I don't get the impression that most of the playerlist is at this caliber of scum manipulation or manipulation technique, so it's very very very likely that any scumteam that has this slot in it will be either led entirely by us or will have us as a big contributor

Link to corpse party and a scum game of mastina’s please?

[Commander Shepard]

One last question before I go save the world from this maze:

GiF is scum yeah?

[Commander Shepard]

I lied. Creature is scum?

So Creature today GiF tomorrow?

[Commander Shepard]

Does anyone know of any games Shoshin has completed recently or something I can get a feel from them on?

I have two recently completed games: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76215 and viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76303

Cool. That should let me know if my gut rings true.

[Commander Shepard]

Taly, do you agree or disagree with me that Random played a major role in causing a no lynch by softly defending Creature throughout D1?

nice leading question

also that taly summary is dire its mostly correct but does not include any of the most important points

What points do you feel are “missing”?

[Commander Shepard]

Also, look

TW

! I'm towning!

Yes you are.

It’s a shame I am on an away mission or I would town up with my kickass animations.

[Commander Shepard]

and you are ignoring teh fact that i didnt choose to wagon renais. because. i. wasnt. on. them. at. day. end.
bc creature's scum play was abysmal. and i wasn't defending him, i was saying that he *might* be town.
of course there is scum motivation there. in what way is trying to bully someone out of investigating you lacking scum motivation? Idc if you think there is town motivation in it, to claim there is no scum motivation is flat-out wrong.
the issue with the summary is it puts focus on the wrong area. it makes it seem like wheme is a townleader. it makes it seem like nico's alignment is up for debate.
bearing in mind i was directly involved with 3 of them and i directly suggested a theory as to why people went underground the last question is a bit farcical

???

If Creature’s scumplay WAS abysmal that makes him scum this game.

If you think his scumplay WAS abysmal why would you say that Creature might be town?

[Commander Shepard]

Taly, do you agree or disagree with me that Random played a major role in causing a no lynch by softly defending Creature throughout D1?

nice leading question

also that taly summary is dire its mostly correct but does not include any of the most important points

What points do you feel are “missing”?

@random Do you feel my reading comprehension skills are bad?

[Commander Shepard]

Taly, do you agree or disagree with me that Random played a major role in causing a no lynch by softly defending Creature throughout D1?

nice leading question

also that taly summary is dire its mostly correct but does not include any of the most important points

What points do you feel are “missing”?

@random Do you feel my reading comprehension skills are bad?

wasn't directed at you sry

Then I would love an answer to the question. And the one above.

[Commander Shepard]

Sorry my AI didn’t keep up with posts @random

[Commander Shepard]

OK lets play spot the bullshit!

You go first and show me some bullshit. My away mission will take some time.

Show me where you think bullshit is.

[Commander Shepard]

Wheme can tyou explain Random/Shoshin scum-scum?

Idk maybe randoms town

Maybe Radiant Cowbells is town.

[Commander Shepard]

Hmmmmm clearly the moderator is town if you’re asking my point.

[Commander Shepard]

Hmmmmm clearly the moderator is town if you’re asking my point.

don't be obnoxious

i asked because i couldn't tell if you are picking up on him for lack of content or because you understood randoms as random people and not radomidegt's

Not being obnoxious. Just trolling a bit for reactions and such.

[Commander Shepard]

I mean

Me, reality check, Nancy, Nico, Scioness Sajj, Shepard

I am willing to call this a town block

Remove Sajj and I am okay with that.

But what can I say? I am just Spider-Man.

[Commander Shepard]

1649 basically wiped out any townread I was developing on Sajj. Struggling to see how a townie responds to me that way.

Post yes!
Creature vote next!

[Commander Shepard]

Hey Shoshin

How do you feel about being JLo and I be your Pitbull?

We just dance out all this negativity.

[Commander Shepard]

Got the prod. Sorry was away during the weekend. Let me catch up.


STOP POKING ME BECAUSE I CAN POKE YOU BACK!!!

STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS! THAT’S CONSIDERED RUDE!!

Why the username?

[Commander Shepard]

dw I'm pretty new too

Oooh how new are you? Weren’t you claiming like being good scum earlier like?

[Commander Shepard]

dw I'm pretty new too

Oooh how new are you? Weren’t you claiming like being good scum earlier like?

first game on the site

hell yeah

Error EDI is confused

Is this your first game as a duo? You can’t have previous games and have this be your first?

[Commander Shepard]

oh

uh except for those

Oh uh townread demolished

Hey WhemeStar can you take like the Reality Check out of the block?

[Commander Shepard]

damn I was so close

will you accept a cookie as a bribe?

Depends...

I can be convinced with a cookie not to push you today.

Tomorrow will wait and see.

[Commander Shepard]

I'd love it if you pushed me

I want to see what happens

Me too

It’d be hilariously bad.

So is that a way of saying you’re giving me a cookie?

[Commander Shepard]

Idk

I kinda want to get pushed

Who’s to say I am not right now?

[Commander Shepard]

https://wifflegif.com/tags/16900-laser-pointer-gifs

Time to bring out the ultimate weapon!!!!

[Commander Shepard]

no no no no please

what did I do to deserve this?

Not give me a cookie

[Commander Shepard]

Nom nom nom nom

Okay I will not push you today.

Let’s lynch Creature.

[Commander Shepard]

@CShep does it help at all that I'm townreading Reality? I have experience with the main head and she's not someone I townread easily

My cookie helps.

I don’t really know you but we’re lynching Creature today and so I will get time to read things and such.

[Commander Shepard]

Nico is like confirmed town and like no one is objecting.

No one should be hostile to her overnight.

No one should be hostile to anyone ever

[Commander Shepard]

@CShep does it help at all that I'm townreading Reality? I have experience with the main head and she's not someone I townread easily

My cookie helps.

I don’t really know you but we’re lynching Creature today and so I will get time to read things and such.

nice to meet u I'm the one who's been yelling all game that were lynching creature and nearly stabbed everyone with a green role pm for not lynching him d1 while the Underground shenanigans were going down

The fact Creature is a lifeless Creature means we should make him more lifeless.

[Commander Shepard]

she wasn't confirmed d1 and she wasn't exactly clear enough early when she was revealing.

it's beginning of d2 is you are curious.

*huzzah*

No one should be mean to anyone else.

I sometimes get carried away but

Hostility is best served never.

[Commander Shepard]

oh wow, took me good 4 rereads to figure out the progression thing but i see it now.

Explain it to me.

it's not natural to first vote somebody and switch the vote immediately to a person disagreeing with it and put such weak reasoning as you did.

Do you townread me?

[Commander Shepard]

Then back off chica.

I have seen this pattern in people new to MS.

Creature is the lynch today.

Assume Nico,nancy,me, Shoshin, RadiantCowbells, the worst are all town aligned.

Who is scum?

[Commander Shepard]

never said creature wasn't the lynch

K

Who is scum if the people I listed are all town?

[Commander Shepard]

Leave her alone and answer my question or you’re scum that I will have 0 regrets pasting into dirt tomorrow if I am alive.

[Commander Shepard]

Hostility is best served never.

bruh u rock

I know right? Find scum through trolling.

Who’da thunk it?

[Commander Shepard]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... 27s_Gambit

Being trolly never felt so good.

Watching scum not listen and avoid questions never felt so right.

[Commander Shepard]

i think that's all that i have missed or wanted to answer.

Or wanted to answer...

Hahahahaha

Sajj doesn’t want to consider a Shoshin town world because they need the mislynch

#keepSlayin

[Commander Shepard]

Rando is scum
RealityCheck is mouth full of cookie.

Pretty much my lynch pool is Creature GiF Sajj and Random

[Commander Shepard]

btw are you from off-site, or an alt? (if latter hidden or nah?)

One does not take off their helmet during combat.

[Commander Shepard]

Is the worst scum

Pretty sure he’s on the Normandy.

As I believe you’re requesting to enter the Normandy vessel for town block negotiations yes?

[Commander Shepard]

What’s interesting

Also chick is also scum

eh nah

[Commander Shepard]

generally scumfucks can submit actions on behalf of other scum?

I say we lynch chick because Creature May be to inactive to submit any night actions

Gradually watermelon

[Commander Shepard]

generally scumfucks can submit actions on behalf of other scum?

I like shapes

[Commander Shepard]

I'm conflicted abt the chickadee slot but happy to leave it as a scumlean for now and reassess later

How do you feel about triangles?

Chickadee I am null or townlean on. Got too many scum possibles for her to be scum



Gradually watermelon is a phrase you say when what the person said makes no sense.

[Commander Shepard]

MAYBE YOUR SCUMREADS ARE WRONG THEN?????

That is a problem for overnight me to worry about. We’re lynching Creature and I have enough interactions to compare about as I read.

[Commander Shepard]

was gradually watermelon @ me or wheme bc i think I'm a bit slomo here and wheme is aggressively watermelon af

Mostly Wheme’s suggestion of lynching anyone else.

The day is dissolving into unintelligible when the content given is literally a meme being analyzed

Which we just need today to end. I parse my brain through google translate and see if people catch on.

[Commander Shepard]

@worst Wanna be my partner for the upcoming micro.

Don’t worry. Your right partner will find you. I have faith. Good luck finding them. Maybe they will come to you.

[Commander Shepard]

@CShep does it help at all that I'm townreading Reality? I have experience with the main head and she's not someone I townread easily

My cookie helps.

I don’t really know you but we’re lynching Creature today and so I will get time to read things and such.

nice to meet u I'm the one who's been yelling all game that were lynching creature and nearly stabbed everyone with a green role pm for not lynching him d1 while the Underground shenanigans were going down

The fact Creature is a lifeless Creature means we should make him more lifeless.

Lmao, your posts are cracking me up man.

Oh no! You caught my plan of making everyone have fun!

Whatever shall I do? *hands to face*

[Commander Shepard]

I'll do it.

VOTE: Creature

Is this hammer?

I HAVE POWER TO STOP THIS LYNCH. SHALL I DIVERT THIS ON NICO?

THAT IS A FUNNY JOKE.

NO DIVERTING ALLOWED TODAY.

[Commander Shepard]

Fragile.
So very delicate.
Like the Angel placed at the top of the tree.
She watches over everyone, and makes sure they are okay.
She makes sure everyone is happy and safe.
There is no one to watch over her.
She is too fragile.
There is a fallen an angel among you
Pamper, protect and trust it.

TehBrawlGuy has died! They were

Helping Hands, Town 1-Shot Reviver

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Spoiler: Role PM

We are helping! We're helping hands!

Welcome! You are the Helping Hands, Town 1-Shot Reviver.

Helping Hands (1-Shot Reviver): Each night you may see who has died after actions are submitted. Before the day starts, you may choose to lift one of them out of the Oubliette, preventing them from being nightkilled. Any hypothetical strongman effects would bypass this ability.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.

THERE IS NO DAY OPEN FLAVOR ONLY NIGHT FLAVOR.

NICO IS TOWN.

IF NICO FLIPS SCUM I WILL QUIT ALL MAFIA FOR ALL ETERNITY.

Day 2 has begun!

[Commander Shepard]

YOU ARE FRAGILE

GOT IT.
REDIRECTING TO NICO MAKES YOU SCUM.

[Commander Shepard]

NICO IS A CLAIMED INVESTIGATIVE AND FLAVOR HINTED TOWN.

YOU DO THIS AND THE WEIGHT OF THE ALLIANCE WILL CRUSH YOUR DEMON WINGS

[Commander Shepard]

YOU ARE FRAGILE

GOT IT.
REDIRECTING TO NICO MAKES YOU SCUM.

Well this town didn't want to so I needed the attention.


I REALLY CANT STOP THE LYNCH, IT IS MY JOB TO PROTECT PEOPLE HERE!!!

AND IT IS MY JOB TO BE SNOOTY AND SNOBBY.

NOT SURE I BELIEVE THAT EITHER.

[Commander Shepard]

Let him try it. I die for motherland!

ArcAngel looks to be female on further inspection.

But it will be my everlasting prayer not a hair on your head be harmed. So help me Forever21z

[Commander Shepard]

https://giphy.com/gifs/video-games-mass ... xMOuVO4QZa

My face real-time right now.

[Commander Shepard]

I'll do it.

VOTE: Creature

Is this hammer?

I HAVE POWER TO STOP THIS LYNCH. SHALL I DIVERT THIS ON NICO?

You aren’t going to get a hard-claimed investigative lynched but you can try to cause us to have yet another no lynch, which will cripple town.

I AM PROTECTING NICO DUMBO!!

You just said you would change lynch target from Creature to me.....

It’s okay. You’re good.

Your real protector has made themselves clear.

[Commander Shepard]

Arc or <redacted> are scum.

[Commander Shepard]

Probably Arc. EDI run reads recalibration tonight.

[Commander Shepard]

Arc or <redacted> are scum.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM RC TOMORROW? ASK ME

The entire scumteam and they no kill tonight.

[Commander Shepard]

.......

It’s okay.

I will bombard you with hug gifs to cut out the confusion if the thread isn’t locked by then.

[Commander Shepard]

.......

It’s okay.

I will bombard you with hug gifs to cut out the confusion if the thread isn’t locked by then.

SCUM ROMANCE!!!

Indeed. :O

From the lady herself which is required knowledge



ARCANGEL9 PLEASE STOP YOU ARE MAKING READING UNFUN.

[Commander Shepard]

THIS

ftfy

aa9 are you durnk?

Is this a slayers gambit to my slayers gambit?

[Commander Shepard]

So like this masquerade ball thing did it like end?

VOTE: Random

I was kinda liking the partner I had in the ball.

I have lots of away missions today so don’t count much on me.

[Commander Shepard]

I would disagree here.

Someone else <redacted> has crumbed protective. I trust that person more than the JK claim.

If Random’s wagon does fall apart then I would want Sajj.

GMTA

[Commander Shepard]

This is assuming a JK even exists and it isn’t a named townie.

[Commander Shepard]

I kind of want to try to fish them out since it's pretty blatantly town, but I don't want to at the same time because it's a more effective role when hidden.

Hmmmmmmm

Stop being so friendly all the damn time.

I am the ultimate laugh maker.

My goals for today
Lynch scum
Make RC laugh

Not necessarily in that order.

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: Random

Why are we voting Random again?

I know some folks are gonna be shocked that GiF flipped town but I'm not - the way he read my interaction with Sajj showed some pretty close reading of the game that isn't typical of scum.

Random's by far the most likely partner to Creature. My case earlier in the game points that out pretty well.

I know GIF is town, that was his town play.


THIS TOWN NEED BLESSING FROM ANGELS.

Weren’t you doing something with flavor text yesterday?

Did you do that or?

[Commander Shepard]

Chickadee what are your reads darling?

Pretty sure fishin isn’t good considering what all died.

[Commander Shepard]

Creature has been lynched! He was

The Cleaners, Mafia 1-Shot Strongman Factional Redirector Enabler

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Spoiler: Role PM

OH NO THE CLEANEEERS

Welcome! You are The Cleaners, Mafia 1-Shot Strongman Factional Redirector Enabler.

Cleaner (1-Shot Strongman): Once per game your clanging rotating metal can force someone unstoppably into the oubliette.
Out of the Way! (Factional Redirector Enabler): While you are alive, your team is capable of factionally redirecting one player into another. This must be performed as an action by someone.

You win when the Goblins have sent all of the Town to the oubliette or nothing can prevent this from happening.


Your fakeclaim is as follows:

Never go that way! If she'd gone that way, she'd have gone straight to that castle.

Welcome! You are

The Worm, Town Redirector

.

Giver of Directions (Redirector): Each day you may give a player directions, forcing them to target your choice of target.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.

Night 2 begins and will end in (expired on 2018-06-20 20:00:00).

[insert flavor here]

NicoRobin has died! She was

Toby, Macho Cop

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Spoiler: Role PM

The babe with the power...

Welcome! You are

Toby, Town Macho Cop

.

Captive (Macho): You are held captive by the Goblins and cannot be prevented from dying by any means.
Behind Lines (Cop): You are capable of seeing all the goblins and may target a player each night to determine if they're a goblin or not.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.

GuyInFreezer has died! He was

Rock, Jailkeeper Enabler

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Spoiler: Role PM

404 Error: Quote not found.

Welcome! You are a

Rock, Town Jailkeeper Enabler

.

Rock (Jailkeeper Enabler): You enable the jailkeeper. Why? Who knows, really.

You win when the Goblins have been sent to the oubliette.

For the rest of you, day 3 has begun!

@Arcangel there was no weekend.

@Shoshin I don’t like how AA9 lied to my face.

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: ArcAngel9[/b]

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: ArcAngel9

[Commander Shepard]

@Shoshin I don’t like how AA9 lied to my face.

What's the lie?

You do realize she's trolling?

Pretty sure that is not a troll.

She said she could do something with flavor.

Nothing happened. Vote stays until she explains.

[Commander Shepard]

how does everyone feel about the flips? don't analyse I'm just curious how everyone feels.

I was shocked GiF was town.

[Commander Shepard]

@Shoshin I don’t like how AA9 lied to my face.

What's the lie?

You do realize she's trolling?

Pretty sure that is not a troll.

She said she could do something with flavor.

Nothing happened. Vote stays until she explains.

There's things I find scummy about Arc but this isn't one of them. What's this "lie" hiding?

That she did something else something scummy.

Mainly the fact she acknowledges she could do something and didn’t and then acknowledged she could but with a shitty excuse makes her scum.

[Commander Shepard]

Are there any guidelines on the line between bastard and non-bastard games?

viewtopic.php?p=10182639#p10182639

Game is not bastard.

[Commander Shepard]

Sorry copied wrong signup

viewtopic.php?p=9846495#p9846495

Either way same thread.

Anything not following those guidelines would be called out as bastard. RC is a good mod and a mainstay of the site. I trust his mod skills.

[Commander Shepard]

btw regarding 'the scum plan if we're scum' part

mastina is very good at creating plans as scum and creating situations that are better longer term for scum
I'm competent at reading the gamestate and can find good options to progress it along (I can prove this, I won corpse party as scum almost entirely through good nightkills), but I'm not necessarily the best at direct manipulation

I don't get the impression that most of the playerlist is at this caliber of scum manipulation or manipulation technique, so it's very very very likely that any scumteam that has this slot in it will be either led entirely by us or will have us as a big contributor

Link to corpse party and a scum game of mastina’s please?

sorry this is late, mastina answered this during day two but I was lazy, so


Star Wars Rogue One
Organization XIII
National Geographic Mafia
Turn of Camn
XP Mafia
Inventions Mafia

here's mastina-scum being less active in the thread and being more active only in the scum PT and hydra PT
Civilization Mafia

and here's mastina-scum as a traitor
Mystery at King's Landing

Reality Check is up to a light town lean right now.

[Commander Shepard]

<in an elcor monotone> Amused. Glad you agree.

Pondering. @worst what do you make of random and AA9?

[Commander Shepard]

shitty town..

Nancy is scum. We should lynch her today.

Like Nico?

Nico was useless. so i called her off

AND YOU'RE SCUM. PERIOD.

I CALL UP ON ANGELS TO KILL THE DEMONS OF THIS TOWN.

Nico cop cleared me n1 Sherlock. Have you considered a career in standup?

Tecccccchnically you’re not cleared because Creature flipped redirector enabler but that would have required scum to intentionally redirect Nico. However that possibility is rather slim so it’s imho not worth investigating

[Commander Shepard]

shitty town..

Nancy is scum. We should lynch her today.

Like Nico?

Nico was useless. so i called her off

AND YOU'RE SCUM. PERIOD.

I CALL UP ON ANGELS TO KILL THE DEMONS OF THIS TOWN.

Why was GIF vigged over this? :smdh:

I think it would be because of GiFs reaction and that it almost stalled the Creature wagon.

[Commander Shepard]

Random AA9 Sajj

Someone speak up now if they think this team isn’t viable and who they’d replace and why.

[Commander Shepard]

that team is absolutely awful
me and aa9 blatantly arent teamed
how do you even get rthere msh

Then who would you say the scum are?

[Commander Shepard]

you are not lynching me today

no clue why that question is so important to you, what do you gain from knowing how nks make me

feel

And I didn’t say I was voting you today. Would want AA9 or Random.

What scum team would you suggest?

[Commander Shepard]

shitty town..

Nancy is scum. We should lynch her today.

Like Nico?

Nico was useless. so i called her off

AND YOU'RE SCUM. PERIOD.

I CALL UP ON ANGELS TO KILL THE DEMONS OF THIS TOWN.

the only reason I'm thinking this slot might be town

is because this push is even worse than the Nico one

Oh gawd...I'm loathe to ask this.


@AA9 Do you know MathBlade? or Titus?

[Commander Shepard]

shitty town..

Nancy is scum. We should lynch her today.

Like Nico?

Nico was useless. so i called her off

AND YOU'RE SCUM. PERIOD.

I CALL UP ON ANGELS TO KILL THE DEMONS OF THIS TOWN.

Nico cop cleared me n1 Sherlock. Have you considered a career in standup?

Tecccccchnically you’re not cleared because Creature flipped redirector enabler but that would have required scum to intentionally redirect Nico. However that possibility is rather slim so it’s imho not worth investigating

who the fuck would redirect Nico ever

I don't know, hence why I am discounting it but at the same time it's not literally confirmed...Only moon logic levels not confirmed.

[Commander Shepard]

I think Shoshin is town.

[Commander Shepard]

Whoa hey reporting for duty.

Someone wanna catch me up?

I had to go fly to the next galaxy over yesterday.

[Commander Shepard]

Assume AA9 is town. (I disagree) Has AA9 made any recent posts towards scumhunting?

[Commander Shepard]

I did something last night but I dunno if it's what you're referring to, Reality. So that's a pretty pointless question to ask me.

Why do you think random or Sajj could be the jailkeep? I think you mentioned that a couple of times.

I didn't say that aboutu Sajj. As for Random, in the the unlikely - emphasis on unlikely - event that Random's jailkeeper, I'm willing to rethink my read. But otherwise, Random needs to be lynched. I know you think he's town because of something he may have said in your hood but you really need to reevaluate that because whatevr you think is town about him probably isn't unless his role actually confirms him as town.

He was open, forthcoming, helpful, solvey and of his own accord offered up info to me that he didn’t need to. Therefore, I am not in any hurry to lynch there.

And for the same reason Shoshin is a bad lynch.

[Commander Shepard]

Reality, if it's better the role remains hidden, stop fishing.

I know how to handle PRs

Good to know.

Then go find the meat of my sandwich of what I have been saying.

Because you keep looking at bread. Find the other head if you have to.

I say things without saying them like MathBlade does.

Also Shoshin if around in lylo is policy. But I am 95% sure they won’t be. They are town.

[Commander Shepard]

Look at 1907. She protects Random. And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum. So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

[Commander Shepard]

Reality, if it's better the role remains hidden, stop fishing.

I know how to handle PRs

Good to know.

Then go find the meat of my sandwich of what I have been saying.

Because you keep looking at bread. Find the other head if you have to.

I say things without saying them like MathBlade does.

Also Shoshin if around in lylo is policy. But I am 95% sure they won’t be. They are town.

so you're confirming that you're very likely the slot I'm looking for?

Assuming you’re speaking the way I think you are probably. My role is definitely rare and leaves no room for misinterpretation.

[Commander Shepard]

Assume AA9 is town. (I disagree) Has AA9 made any recent posts towards scumhunting?

Nope. What do you think of Sho’s role pm theory re: Angel? What possible town role makes it your wincon to push the hardclaimed cop. derail an obvscum lynch and push the arguable IC who was 99.99% cleared by them?

I think unless they are coached by MathBlade they are scum.

I have seen Math moonlogic make games bad.

I don’t know if a single role that makes a cop or an IC a good lynch.

[Commander Shepard]

okay, cool

here's your followup:

I did something last night but I dunno if it's what you're referring to, Reality. So that's a pretty pointless question to ask me.

follow up:

is it the type of role that functions immediately?

I mean is it the type of role that resolves at the end of the night

do you understand why I asked this question next?

I do. However I am not interested in elaborating on why I do when a lot of my posts responding to you explain why.

[Commander Shepard]

Look at 1907. She protects Random.

And Angel's version of scumhunting is protecting the scum.

So, yes. I'd say she has been scumhunting.

That isn’t protecting or hunting.

That is just lazy.

What @ the bolded?

So, if I understand you correctly here Shoshin, are you saying that by pushing Nico and me, she was doing the exact opposite of xhat she wanted? Like pushing us because she knows we’re town and has to do the exact opposite? Is this like an insane cop or something?

This is what I'm suggesting. She said she's "negative utility" so it's not as implausible as it might sound. Reread her posts under the assumption that she has to attack obvious townies and protect the scum and suddenly it all makes perfect sense. Then look at what she said at the end of D2 - that it's her role to "PROTECT" certain players and Creature is one of them.

So we have a neg utility that doesn’t scum hunt and has to do things against town’s interest supposedly.

I am still behind threadwise but if AA9 hasn’t claimed and doesn’t explain they are eating rope. Because we eliminate someone who doesn’t hunt and we eliminate a neg utility. If they flip town then they learn not to do this shit. I am cool with eliminating how MathBlade says “scum with a town role PM” if that is the case. AA9 is probably just scum though.

[Commander Shepard]

Awesome.

Do you understand why Shoshin is probably town then?

*looks at you with puppy dog eyes*

Be my special Turian friend. *sniff*

[Commander Shepard]

Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

1) It is noise
2) To try to save Creature
3) To avoid scumhunting
4) To fake emotions when they have none
5) To explain why something happened proscum and try not to be lynched for it.

And that is off the top of my head

[Commander Shepard]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin

ArcAngel9
Chickadee
randomidget
Scioness Sajj
Taly
The Worst
WhemeStar

that's a good operational townblock to start from at least

idk maybe I'll follow up on this with another read through at some point

I would put Shoshin a darker green than us. Mainly Shoshin is town because her flip will happen before mine. If she ever makes it to lylo she is policy.

[Commander Shepard]

]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check

Shoshin

Town unless lylo then conf!scum
Shoshin

Town to worry about if they make it to lylo but not quite conf
The worst

Reads list ordered town to scum
Chickadee
WhemeStar
Taly
Random
Sajj
AA9

[Commander Shepard]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check
Shoshin

ArcAngel9
Chickadee
randomidget
Scioness Sajj
Taly
The Worst
WhemeStar

that's a good operational townblock to start from at least

idk maybe I'll follow up on this with another read through at some point

I would put Shoshin a darker green than us. Mainly Shoshin is town because her flip will happen before mine. If she ever makes it to lylo she is policy.

that's not something I'm worried about; I think I'm starting to understand the gamestate now, and if I'm accurate, then that will be sorted out before lylo.

Yeah if I ever die can I count on you and Nancy to push my reads?

I am really putting myself out here.

[Commander Shepard]

Shepard, you realize that you're incentivizing scum to leave me alive until LYLO?

Shepard, you realize that you're incentivizing scum to leave me alive until LYLO?

this is a non-issue unless something majorly fucked is going on

+1

Pretty much you are on me every fucking night.

Not being on me is a mistake.

[Commander Shepard]

Shepard, why are you townreading Reality?

Because they are a townread.

[Commander Shepard]

Shepard, why are you townreading Reality?

Because they are a townread.

No shit. Why?

Because my laser pointer didn’t scare them.

Ha no. Seriously it’s because of a gutread in how she has responded to things.

I am tired going to bed now.

[Commander Shepard]

Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.

[Commander Shepard]

I don't really object to any of the read lists flying around but can someone gimme an indication on who is mechanically town vs just prob/obvtown atm?

Nancy is 98.5% town due to Nico check. It’d require moon logic to not be town so nancy is town.
Other than that no one as far as I can tell is mechanically confirmed unless you heard otherwise (A).

[Commander Shepard]

Oh I agree those are all prob town.

That isn’t

mechanically

town as the question asked.

[Commander Shepard]

We need to lynch Random and it's only going to get harder to do as scum kill players who suspect him. I'm probably dying tonight and definitely before LYLO. So I dunno how we're going to win this if Nancy doesn't rethink that read.

no because that would imply you had any idea what you were talking about

Shepard, why would scum do any of the things that AA9's doing?

for a massive variety of reasons
also no one has considered the fact that even if shoshin's theory (which is insanely bastard) is true it could be aa9 faking it

Yeah, interesting that you brought this up. I’ve been thinking a lot about Sho’s Angel theory and I’m just not seeing it. The only thing mandatory in Mafia is the scum factional kill, nothing else. There is nothing in any one’s role pm ever, that actually FORCES them to do anything and the facts are that Angel not only aggressively pushed a mislynch on a hardclaimed cop, she also voted for Nico and today, she’s trying to lynch the Nico-flipped spewed IC. Angel’s actions IMO are a result of WINCON rather than

role

. No player aggressively pushes two blatantly obvious mislynches unless it’s somehow conducive to their wincon to make it happen.

Angel knows this is a role madness game and unlike whatever reasons Taly crumbed negative utility in a past game, Angel hardclaimed negative utility, in order to make it a lot easier for her to act over the top wolfy. Angel was counting IMO on people being WIFOMed into thinking someone couldn’t possibly have randed scum and behave this way. IOW, GIF, Shoshin and initially Reality were pocketed by her. Thankfully Reality has seen through this charade of hers. Angel is far from a newb to this site, she mods lots of Newbie games on here. So I think both of them may not have been aware of this fact and mistook her for some inexperienced player, which she clearly is not.

There is a modifier on MS called compulsive.

If you don’t do what it says your target is randomized.

I highly doubt that is what is going on here.

[Commander Shepard]

Also btw high chance if goblin king isnt town or the mod that its a GF

Why the fuck would the goblin king be anything other than scum?

[Commander Shepard]

Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.

Shoot with Buzuka: Commander

Lay off from me. Why would you want to lynch a town player? that is fucking anti-town. Your reads are shit and your friend nancy drew is equally shit.


ATTENTION PLEASE:

I AM TOWN AND I HAVE A REASON TO SCREAM LOUD IN CAPS, I AM GOING TO DIE AND I AM PLAYING SO THAT TOWN won't LOOSE!!

This is scum pure and simple.

If you shot me without a fucking claim you are dying.

Everyone I have said is town.

I was partners with Shoshin she roleclaomed to me and I to her.

If she isn’t dead by lylo policy.

[Commander Shepard]

]

Commander Shepherd
Nancy Drew 39
Reality Check

Shoshin

Town unless lylo then conf!scum
Shoshin

Town to worry about if they make it to lylo but not quite conf
The worst

Reads list ordered town to scum
Chickadee
WhemeStar
Taly
Random
Sajj
AA9

Put AA9 in red as fuck

Sajj is dark red pretty damn close
Random is a step Townier than that

Chickadee Wheme and Taly next level

If any deep wolves exist it is either Shoshin or Reality Check in that order.

[Commander Shepard]

Does anyone have any last questions to me before I die and then you lynch AA9 with all due haste?

[Commander Shepard]

Wow.

I mean, I know the whole "Why me fry me" thing, and that can explain TehBrawlGuy's comment about tone perhaps? "Tone is off" could mean a lot of things, so it'd be nice if you coule elaborate just a bit on that one please?

On the other hand, WhemeStar is being very cavalier about tossing around death, even implying that he can't be bothered to look at the top of this page to verify my name before just dismissing it as given and on to the next to go. It's as if he has added knowledge of who is on the opposite side from him.

If he does succeed in this and when I'm shown town, remember you're following him like sheep to the slaughter.

VOTE: WhemeStar or "whatever his name is".

I can fucking confirm myself as town and Joral crumbed it to as did I multiple times.

If you shot me for real my ghost will inhabit every town player and lynch your demonic butt. Twice.

[Commander Shepard]

I mean

Me, reality check, Nancy, Nico, Scioness Sajj, Shepard

I am willing to call this a town block

Remove Sajj and I am okay with that.

But what can I say? I am just Spider-Man.

Spiderman

Friendly neighborhood superhero

[Commander Shepard]

Me too Sajj.

Alas I think we’re tired for different reasons.

[Commander Shepard]

Because Chick is more likely town than AA9
And even if AA9 is town and we are wrong she needs to die.

Shoot with Buzuka: Commander

Lay off from me. Why would you want to lynch a town player? that is fucking anti-town. Your reads are shit and your friend nancy drew is equally shit.


ATTENTION PLEASE:

I AM TOWN AND I HAVE A REASON TO SCREAM LOUD IN CAPS, I AM GOING TO DIE AND I AM PLAYING SO THAT TOWN won't LOOSE!!

This is NEVER something that should be townread for EVER.

Scum have dayvigs as do town.

Someone I know and respect told me to look out for those things.

It isn’t about the role or claim it’s how it is used.

If this is real it was not used in a protown manner.

If AA9 thought I needed death she would have demanded my claim by saying something like “I am a dayvig, claim or die.” I probably still wouldn’t have claimed as I wouldn’t believe it but at least then it would be out there.

[Commander Shepard]

Can we like end this day already please?

[Commander Shepard]

HARD CLAIM :

I AM TOWN FALSE ALARM

IF I CONTINUE TO TROLL DURING THE DAY PHASE. I WILL BE GRANTED POWER TO MODIFY THE FLAVOR ON THE NIGHT FOR THE NEXT FOLLOWING DAY.
THAT'S HOW I CHANGED THE FLAVOR.

THE BELOW INPUT IS GIVEN BY ME.

Fragile.
So very delicate.
Like the Angel placed at the top of the tree.
She watches over everyone, and makes sure they are okay.
She makes sure everyone is happy and safe.
There is no one to watch over her.
She is too fragile.
There is a fallen an angel among you
Pamper, protect and trust it.

NOW FUCK OFF WITH YOUR VOTES AND FIND THE REAL SCUM.

And you haven’t for today so you’re full of shit.

And even if you aren’t you should like just not troll. Modifying flavor is such a shit power it’s not worth the antitown crap.

[Commander Shepard]

I CAN DO ALL CAPS TOO!

IF YOU ARE HORRIBLE TOWN GIVE LAST READS. MY PARANOIA OF REAPER INFESTATION IS EPIC. IF AA9 IS SCUM THIS IS ALL WIFOM. PLEASE IF I DIE LISTEN TO MY READS ESPECIALLY SHOSHIN NOT DEAD AT LYLO POLICY. I WONDER HOW MUCH CAPS I HAVE TO DO TO DROWN OUT AA9’S CAPS?

[Commander Shepard]

because the one in a dozen games where I play really well or learn a lot is worth the 9-10 games of torture and 1-2 games of being unable to care

I think you’d make a fine addition to the Normandy full time.

@RC/Glorious Mod: Can I have an updated map of the planets please? (VoteCount) Thanks!

[Commander Shepard]

Gg all I am okay with releasing PTs

And I lied to Shoshin I didn’t trust you at all. The claim was sketchy as fuck. I am quite surprised you were town. And that site rule is there for a reason.

[Commander Shepard]

My predecessor also didn’t neighborize anyone. I think I said something like there is one person in the hood << Me. Because the hood started created. Then I threw in a I tell you later in case I trusted you later. But I left the notes in the hood for worst who I was pretty sure wasn’t gonna die.

[Commander Shepard]

Gg all I am okay with releasing PTs

And I lied to Shoshin I didn’t trust you at all. The claim was sketchy as fuck. I am quite surprised you were town. And that site rule is there for a reason.

I realize you lied to me... but it's okay... you didn't trust I was town, I didn't trust you to lynch scum...

What site rule?

That if bodyguards don’t die protecting PRs they are scum.