Minuet's Trio [Game Over]

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why hasnt anyone ever thought of doing this

@Mod: Please prod everyone, or at least everyone that hasnt posted in the last 12 hours, or if that's too much just prod purrocet, andriod, mastina and moment

Ok, now back to sleep.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If I end up with 8 votes on me im Self Hammering, I rather that than a NL.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I guess the same could be said for moment.
I'll be around near deadline and until deadline, i'll hammer any 8 vote wagon including my own at that time, now i gotta take care of irl stuff, cya.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

we cant manage ego rather

If kaede, muffin, kokichi and nancy didnt refuse to vote moment he would be l-1

I said I would hammer whatever got to L-1, but I see what you mean, and I apologize.
VOTE: moment

[Kaede Akamatsu]

moment/android/dunn

kokichi is just bad

Compare Kokichi's behaviour to my wagon on Magical Girls to his behaviour to my wagon here.
(It felt more genuine there, while here it looked like he was looking for reasons to scumread me).
But muffin says he's town for reasons he might hopefully tell us later so...

(But seriously, regardless of who flips or NL, please do that homework over the night, I may be wrong, and if I am please tell me why)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It wouldnt surprise me if scum decided to all dissapear near deadline.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

This game is a main representative of the site meta as a whole, and is also a main representative on why I shouldnt bother with this site anymore.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

this day phase is will-sapping. just don't do it again

QFT

[Kaede Akamatsu]

technically 1 more if Nancy keeps her promise.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The site meta's been like this for a few yrs now. Usually I just AFK or post pepes for the first few game days so I don't have to deal with all the nonsense.

This sounds like a genius idea.
But at the very least you shouldnt devoid us from info flips.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

did I even spell that right?
devoid, divoid, divide, divie....

GAH english is hard.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Dunno why, but this just popped into my mind.

Spoiler:

Subject: Micro 753: Votefuckery (Game Over)

mkay when I read through those exchanges I'll keep that in mind.

tho I kinda want to remind ya something if ya don't mind.

And keep in mind this happens to me too, and this is something I also tend to manipulate as scum

But ya know how a bunch of people like Cowbells have these insane ego battles and they dominate games based on these battles and they use anger to help control the game?
Its male manipulative and kinda reflective of the real world if you think about it.
I wanna quote Camn on it because I'm basicly trying to paraphrase mostly what she said about this kind of stuff.

In real life, men wouldnt speak to each other like this.. because fist-fights and murder would ensue. But they would talk to US this way.. and many times we would simply capitulate. OR we DO talk back... and fist-fights and murder ensue, only we never win.
This is also true, historically, here on ms.net. Often the men involved can handle the purifying flame of CAPSRAGE and hate.. and some of us (not all!) but some, we don't handle it well. We stop playing. we replace out. whatever. And almost always the game sucks.

Either way, I don't think its a good time for either of ywall to start mealting down and taking this personally.
You're trying to ignore him however that sends the message to Bee that you can be bullied so he's continueing to do it.

I think the best way to deal with these types of things is to just defuse them if you are aware that its happening.

I don't think now is the best time for a 1v1 with Beeboy mostly because others haven't shown up.
Sure he is most likely scum, and if you two were to 1v1 I'd probably end up voting him in a heartbeat if my vote wasn't locked.
(Now that I think about it a Gladiator might exist in this game that can solve the freezing problem)

I mean
when it comes to the 1v1 then fucking burn him with fire.

But not everyone has posted yet, we're not even 24 hours into the day.
That's not the thing to be doing right now.

So just find a way to defuse it and calm it down.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Nancy

time for you to make good on your promise unless I miscounted I think moment is L-1

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Well good news im still a vanilla cop.
I'm quite interested in knowing if someone got vanillized since if no one did, then scum probably doesnt have one and will mean that my role isnt as useful as I thought.
Ftr, last night i investigated grapes since they were the only other PR that was outed together with me and I figured if scum vanillized them instead of me for some reason could help confirm that they were the target of a scum attack, which would be almost like an inno. I initially thought of scanning mastina for the same reason, but after deliberation if scum does have a vanillizer they would target the vanilla cops first, since mastina's IC if real doesnt trigger for another day anyways.

Considering im fine and grapes is fine, im starting to believe it's possible they just flat out dont have one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

How interesting.
Muffin's last sets of reads was to lynch, ank, nos, ginggie and andriod (i think?), and nos and ginggie were his strongest scumreads.
katsuki says ginggie alone visited muffin and nos is counterclaiming that he also visited muffin

Is it not weird that from katsuki starts attacking ginggie, and nos is counterclaiming it, and ankamius is calling it a scum-gambit?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: Ginggie

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And if he was, then he's still in Purr's vig pool anyway. And we were probably going to lynch him anyway since he's on Muffin's purge list.

Honestly wasnt sure if muffin's kill was for his reads or used as a frame, so I didnt immediately vote Ginggie on day start, but this series of events makes it more obvious, so...

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Here i spent all of D1 (not really) trying to figure out if her (Ank's) SR on me was sincere or not, hence some of my interactions with her (I mean i even had a reach out that she ignored FFS), and I was thinking that maybe she was just bad at reading me like Wisdom admitted to yesterday...

Now i feel like an idiot. Maybe in the end im just too trusting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Here i spent all of D1 (not really) trying to figure out if her (Ank's) SR on me was sincere or not, hence some of my interactions with her (I mean i even had a reach out that she ignored FFS), and I was thinking that maybe she was just bad at reading me like Wisdom admitted to yesterday...

Now i feel like an idiot. Maybe in the end im just too trusting.

what are you talking about?

My interactions with Ank yesterday.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why did you start acting like ank was outted scum, or am I confused about something

I'm talking about Katsuki and Brian talking about Ank being scum.
It makes sense with the interactions im seeing today.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Even if Katsuki's gambiting, there's waaaaaaay too much of a coincidence in the interactions from ppl muffin had in their purge list with Katsuki's gambit.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Okay, sure. Maybe it's a four-scum game.

Considering there's 15 players I'm like 70% sure there's 4 scum

Nah it's an FG thing, i admit not having closely checked ammount of scum in previous Alice games and I probably should, but muffin seemed pretty sure there'd be 3 scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Furthermore I thought Ginggie was supposed to be very familiar with mastina's modus operandi?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Regardless of whether mastina's lying or not.
If mastina's a day 3 IC then, she's obviously town.
If she's lying about it then she's most likely gambiting town.

That's what she stated and seems correct from what I remember of her meta, I could be wrong, but Ginggie should know her meta better than me, if she had any reason for thinking she was worth scanning then I would like to know.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

im gonna vig ank but dunn is... i want what some of he's having

Ank's scumflip would be great for my mental state.
And bad at the same time.

It'd mean scumteam's trying to push a ML on me when im right.
But it also means Ank!scum is pushing me while

knowing

, how I feel about being pushed.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I can't believe we are literally letting Kaede get away with the fact that she checked not only her CC, but the only PR claimed, which is convenient for a 'vanilla' cop.

Do you even realize what you're saying.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like idek what you'd have wanted me to do with my role, go and out an unclaimed PR so scum can shoot them?
Find an unclaimed VT to narrow down scum's shoot pool?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Sorry, but i rather die than use my role to help scum find town PRs.
Of course, I can do that and keep them to my chest, but then you're going to say "SHE OBVIOUSLY DIDNT CHECK ANYONE", it's catch-22
Damned if i do, Damned if i dont
So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

P-Edit: Yeah that's an idea, except Kokichi's gonna spin it into whatever he can to make it look like a scum move.
Anyway, now that i know there's probably not a vanillizer i dont need to keep a look out for people trying to fake being vanillized.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

If anything, Ginggie knows how to make things exciting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Meanwhile we still don't know why you checked mastina Ginngie.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Meanwhile we still don't know why you checked mastina Ginngie.

Do you want me to answer this?

Get Katsuki to entertain me

That's not how this works.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Some people have commented it's weird for you to target mastina.
You come in and instead of telling us why you come with this question towards Katsuki
(Granted I wanted to see what the question was all about but w/e)
Why?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Are you implying that the question you're asking Katsuki is relevant to the reason you targeted mastina?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

There's no need to yell.
But fine i'll stop asking i'll just keep my vote where it is then.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

There's no need to CAPSRAGE.
But fine i'll stop asking i'll just keep my vote where it is then.

Fixed

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Even if Katsuki's gambiting, there's waaaaaaay too much of a coincidence in the interactions from ppl muffin had in their purge list with Katsuki's gambit.

Can you go into this more please? This sounds really NAI from how I'm seeing it right now.

I went into it on the post I made before I voted Ginngie.
Like, the people from muffin's purge list were the main opponents to Katsuki's claim at that point.
My reach out was when I self-meta'd (technically it was a reachout to everyone that has meta on me, but i was mostly interested in your reaction to it)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

today, lol

[Kaede Akamatsu]

How interesting.
Muffin's last sets of reads was to lynch, ank, nos, ginggie and andriod (i think?), and nos and ginggie were his strongest scumreads.
katsuki says ginggie alone visited muffin and nos is counterclaiming that he also visited muffin

Is it not weird that from katsuki starts attacking ginggie, and nos is counterclaiming it, and ankamius is calling it a scum-gambit?

^
This post Ankamius

[Kaede Akamatsu]

katsuki's claim looks like a gambit at first glance

I might be biased due to last game tho

It's blatantly a gambit that is getting scum-sheeped

Actually I misread, you called it a gambit getting scum-sheeped.

Dunno why i thought you said scum gambit

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@Ankamius

Spoiler:

Rant:

But wow, I never expected people to be able to spin all my goodwill to help the town into some sort of scum master plan, as the great scum planner that I am, so much that everyone dances like puppets under my strings when im scum and im capable of controlling the flow of everything in the game, so everyone has to scrutinize everything I say and slap a scum reasoning for it, instead of you know... actually reading me

</Rant>

Like, I've been outside of my scum range since like several pages ago, this is just saddening at this point.

Like I know im biased on this, but you're literally labelling all these maneuvers and pre-plannings on the player that is trying to not improve her scum game, because I hate that my scum game is praised so much when literally everytime im scum i dont know what im doing and somehow i get townread, AND THIS, in turn causes people to scumread me when im town because SHE'S CAPABLE OF FAKING EVERYTHING, SHE DOES IT COZ SHE'S EMULATING HER TOWN META. I'm sick of it, this is why I don't want to play anymore, seems like I never will be able to get a towngame where I dont have to be hiding from everyone coz everything I say is going to be part of some scum master plan or some such.

I'm tired

Of this.

I don't want this to happen anymore.

All I want is to destroy my scum meta, somehow, but Im not rolling scum to do so, and all I get is this kind of treatment again.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Wisdom is too, and he wasn't on Muffin's purge list.

Eh wisdom's posts didnt look like they were specifically against it, just saying that it was probably a gambit and that katsuki does that as town.
Katsuki's implying muffin was SR Wisdom at some point tho?

Who knows.

Either way, it makes far more sense to vig someone hard to lynch whom muffins was hard reading as scum last night when we were chatting than to waste it on an easy lynch target. Plus, if I die overnight, I have 0 faith in you guys lynching Wisdom ever.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway im also curious in what caused you to TR me now.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok stop me when I'm wrong,

you're saying is that me ginngie and ank are all scum together
me and ank are de-legitimizing katsuki's claim
while at the same time ank distances by calling me scum
and neither of us vote katsuki so ginngie can get lynched
when I could have easily cc'd her before the ginngie wagon built momentum
instead of bussing the fuck out of a useless lurkslot

That right?

More like trying to save ginngie.
I'm putting Ank in the back burner for now because im starting to believe her.
What i think is most likely is you are scum with ginngie.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

We're waiting for katsuki and ginngie to do whatever right now

Katsuki wants the day phase to be over but then extends it by being a brat

You KNOW, Ginngie is also refusing to answer the reason why they targeted mastina because "OH NOES KATSUKI WONT ANSWER MY QUESTION"

[Kaede Akamatsu]

More like trying to save ginngie.
I'm putting Ank in the back burner for now because im starting to believe her.
What i think is most likely is you are scum with ginngie.

im thoroughly interested in why

Except I already explained why.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

The less Ginngie wants to answer the question, the less I care about Ginngie living.
Ginngie flipping into "KATSUKI HAS TO ANSWER ME FIRST" just strengthens that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

There's also the whole discussion I had yesterday with Katsuki about faking guilties.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

L-2, do people want me to put this at L-1 or have more discussion?

I would like to hear from mastina first at the very least.
I want her to come and see that Ginngie decided to vanilla cop her.
And what she thinks about that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah you both raise good points, this isn't a bus.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah you both raise good points, this isn't a bus.

quoting for post game

Also quoting for post game

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also im taking that as an admission from Ginngie that he's flipping red and is trying to take Katsuki down with him.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Too bad there's no green carpets in this game.
Just blue and red.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Anyway, now that Ginngie has admitted to being scum and trying to take Katsuki down with him, I dont mind when he's hammered

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh so you deny that but not the former?
Interesting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

kaede its just wifom

I'm aware of that, I was trying to unpack the wifom into information, but oh well.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At worst ill just ignore it

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Mastina needs to confirm herself or whatever.

This.
And for that i'll wait before voting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm also wondering what happened with the vig shot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Who knows.

I don't think Purr is the 3rd scum fakeclaiming vig though.

Me neither.
First and foremost im interested in knowing if they were fake claiming N2 vig, if not then figuring out what might have happened with the shot might give us more insight with what the scumteam has.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why would you block a claimed vig?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

More importantly why didnt u block Nos, you said yesterday they were scum.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You acknowledge to agree that you think Purr is a town vig that could potentially vig you (They could have also vigged nos or dunn), yet blocked them.
You also said yesterday that "Nos is indeed scum" yet you didnt block him.
More importantly you apparnetly can double block and you also blocked Katsuki who got us a scum lynch yesterday.

Why am i supposed to think these actions come from a townie?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

why didnt u jailkeep muffin N1.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

why didnt u jailkeep muffin N1.

I blocked two scumreads.

I dont believe you'd try to hit 2 SRs than at least use one of your JKs as a protective.
You're scum.

I'll wait for mastina and then i'll vote you.

P-Edit: Oh no, im pretty sure you were involved in some way of form getting rid of purrocet's vig shot, i just dont think you're town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hey Kaede, how strongly do you still feel about this read?

I never feel strong about any reads, and Wisdom hasnt done any of his scumtells or towntells, plus I haven't even bothered at this point, didn't think someone would end up relying on me to read him.

Also are we forgetting he never JK muffin?
Oh! and, if ankamius does by miracle flip town that's straight up 2 hard innos on purrcocet and katsuki.

So Wisdom's claim that Katsuki's busing and that Ankamius is flipping town dont add up.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also are we forgetting he never JK muffin?

This was talking about Ankamius btw, since the previous line was talking about Wisdom sorry for the confusion.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

how are they innos

there's 2 scum remaining no? At least muffin was pretty confident there'd be 3 scum, and I sort of agree.
If a kill was made then neither of them could have made it no?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh wait, that only works if both are scum, if one is scum another member could've done it.
Well doesn't matter.

P-Edit: Yeah, i was just thinking of the general 1 scum remaining = roleblocker getting innos, so i thought double roleblocker got double innos with 2 scum remaining, but it doesnt work that way.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And if you believe a Town ank would NOT jailkeep muffin N1 and go for a scumread here:

I jailed Katsuki because both actions were beneficial; it stops a scumkill on Katsuki, which is reasonably likely based on the muffin kill night one. It also stops Katsuki from making the kill himself, since I would bet money that any scumteam with Katsuki on it would send Katsuki to send in a kill.

The same reasoning that can go for mufifn is explained on katsuki.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh hey nancy's seeing the light.
Good to know.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

When it comes to muffin, he was being universally townread, not only that, but he had also stated that he would sheepherd harder for his scumreads to be lynched starting D2, this is obviously bad for scum, and had himself stated he'd most likely die, it was very obvious what would happen and Ank avoided preventing that death. Is it possible scum wouldn't shoot muffin? sure, but at least a JK would guarantee he lived and so that he would push his rea-

isaac
mastina

grapes

hs
kokichi
dunnstral
purr
kaede
nancy
wisdom

moment

-----LYNCH BELOW THIS LINE-----
andriod

ankamius

nosferatu

ginngie

Oh, I can see why. And it has scum all over it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

and Muffin made it obvious that he expected to die.

Ive said i might die infinite times in twilights, i rarely actualy died
Expecting to die does not mean people should protect you
Ank should just jail her scumreads and thats what she did

Try to hit scum with a roleblock with most of everyone still alive instead of saving the townier players from getting shot?
Like do you really as JK try to offensively target N1?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also, explain how Ank

isn't

trying to survive more here? None of this makes sense.

This, Yeah because blocking the Vig that had threatened to shoot you is totally

not

trying to survive right?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

VOTE: wisdom

We all invest mastina or kat

Find out if truth or lie

There can’t be a triple role block lol

You know this is kinda funny now that i think about it.
Seems like inside knowledge of at least 2x roleblock otherwise why mention a triple one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Because you dont claim a role like that before you absolutely have to

And being threatened to being vigged doesnt count as "absolutely have to"?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Yeah, let's waste the vig shot on the single night they could shoot, that sounds like entirely the most pro-town thing to do.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Now shes forced herself to give two block targets for n1

Isn't that already getting her caught.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

no, just people stretching the fact she hasnt claimed them yet

So, tell me, who were ank's SRs near the end of D1.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You mean like how ank jailkpet purr?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

it confirms he's a jailkeeper, it doesnt confirm his alignment

ROLE IS DIFFERENT FROM ALIGNMENT THIS IS 101 MAFIA WHAT ARE YOU DOING WIS

(you literally have a flipped scum vanilla cop and a flipped town vanilla cop)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

then why put the word "scum" in there just put rb.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Just means Ank is probably a scum jailkeeper

Doesn't change anything tbh

Order of events makes sense if we have two Town N2 Vigs.
But after hearing mastina's claim im interested to hear more.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

For example, why would a scum claim N2 vig if they arent one.
Why does mastina think a scum purrcocet claims N2 vig if they arent one.
It's not like they knew mastina was a N2 vig or anything unless scum has a role cop, but then why give them a vanilla cop?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

mastina promised there'd be more content starting D3, and her post implies she hasnt even read anything that happened D3, like ank claiming to have JK'd Purr or there would be her answer.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What if I told you that i received a random PM telling me that Katsuki visited Ankamius.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

And I don't buy that it's by a town method.

such means is called Ankamius.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

mastina, lemme know when you have figured out why purrcocet lived and in the meantime, im gonna hope everyone realizes what ank has claimed, what ank has claimed to have done N1, and what the implications of said claim and the fact that i got a result N1 means, furthered by the fact that after my reachout ankamius decided to disregard everything as "fluff", she also decided to continue pushing until very close to deadline, and magically flipped her read on me D2, without so much of an explanation that's not present at all on D1.

OH I guess I already explained everything ah well.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

@mastina:

Ankamius claimed a jailkeep on purrcocet.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

how long do we have to wait until mastina sees that ank jailed purr

Dunno.
If I had to make a bet, long enough for me to make me go "fuck it" and vote ankamius out of getting tired of waiting.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

btw happy bday Dunn

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can we stop thinking that someone claiming the same role as you means they are scum.
If you really believed that you'd be flashlynching me right now for being a vanilla cop with a flipped town vanilla cop.

and a flipped scum vanilla cop lol

Ank is scum, lynch her, dont waste your time with mastina.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually idek why i bother defending mastina when she didn't defend me D1.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Hmm fine I guess
VOTE: ank

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What if I told you that i received a random PM telling me that Katsuki visited Ankamius.

Btw im retracting this, this never happened.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Mastina isn't dumb, just scum.

Dunno, does scum mastina fake claim D3 Inno child then turn it into N2 Vig that shot the jailkept player that also happened to claim N2 vig?
Seems a bit convoluted of a scum plan, while i've seen my fair share of dumb mastina that makes me SR her when she's town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually thinking about it there is something off about the way mastina went about this, but i cant put my finger on what.
Hopefully ill find out why tomorrow.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Basically she would have had to seen purr's claim, but missed my, ginggie's and grapes' claims.
Or something...
Eh, idek if im going anywhere with this.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kaede, what's your report?

If people want them i'll give them (I was never asked yesterday either), but I currently dont think it's a good idea to out potential PRs or VTs to help scum find PRs.
I can tell you who I have inspected tho.

As for other things, I firmly believe Pur is pretty much conf town levels of town, it was confirmed by mastina's shot that purr was indeed JK'd by Ankamius on N2, Ankamius felt threatened by purr's vig shot, plus that's quite a random thing to claim for scum, much more if it happens to be someone else's role as well. This means that if purr was scum, not only he randomly picked up a N2 Vig to claim but ankamius also jailed him to protect him from... what really?.

Anyway i think that pretty much confirms that Purr is town.
Wisdom led a mislynch on town D1, and fought to defend both scum on D2 and D3 agains their lynch, i've seen him take this approach before as scum (which ultimately led him to being lynched after his partner flipped scum from a vig shot)

I think going through muffin's purge list would get us more likely scum, i mean he's been right on all his reads so far.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Oh also, i dont think 2 MCs would be scum, not sure if that's worth the remaining 2 claiming tho.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i think we should collate every claim thus far

Me - Vanilla Cop
Nancy - Vanilla Townie
Purrcocet - N2 Vigi
Mastina - N2 Vigi
Katsuki - D5 Innocent Child (?)

I think that's about it.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Katsuki - tracker

Nah, yesterday's was a gambit.
He said Ank visited grapes, but Ank's also confirmed to have visited Purrcocet at least.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Nosferatu - ??

Nosferatu is also not vanilla as per grapes on D2.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Eh i'll start here:
VOTE: andriod

[Kaede Akamatsu]

btw i have 2 results one of them is on one of the unclaimed ppl, up to you if you rather me out that first or not.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

What makes you think a vanilla result is clearing?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Also if you did indeed investigate me as vanilla you're more than welcome to publicize it.

You're starting to worry me with something like this.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

btw im vt

^
I can confirm this btw.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok so.
N1: Grapes - Not Vanilla
N2: Katsuki - Not Vanilla
N3: Wisdom - Vanilla

That's why I was asking you.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

But you said you were vanilla, and i got confused, was wondering if my results were messed up with.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ugh, sorry about that.
Well either case I can confirm that Wisdom is Vanilla, do you still stand by that your knowledge of the game leads you to think that vanilla is cleared?
UNVOTE:

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I figured that you probably investigated me at some point in this game so I was hoping you would play along and claim a vanilla result on me to help me live deeper into the game considering I'm essentially confirmed town after leading the lynch on two scum on consecutive days, including what is likely the core of the scumteam in their most powerful PR Ankamius.

Sorry im slow to catch on to those things orz

[Kaede Akamatsu]

In all seriousness tho, do you not think scum has no goons? That was one of the reasons I was thinking grapes died to begin with, it was... quite an odd kill.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok sure, i'll inspect andriod tonight.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I still dont get why you would out the player who's given town two straight scumlynches as a PR. I honestly don't.

Because I was unsure about whether my results were messed up with.
You were going against wisdom whom i had a vanilla result on while saying vanilla meant cleared and claiming vanilla while i had a not vanilla result on you, and dunno why, but the first thing that came into my mind where if my results were swapped giving me not vanilla on vanilla and vanilla on not vanilla, the way you reacted means it was probably not that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Brain basically claimed an inno on Nos and I don't know if scum nos kills the person claiming an inno on him. Thoughts?

Maybe they thought he was an alignment cop or something, which leads further credibility to the fact that Nos is indeed conf town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

At least as long as im alive, scum cant fake claim PR as goon or VT as PR.
So might as well lock everyone into a claim and i can just check to see if someone's lying.
Whether i die over the next 2 nights (hopefully we've won by then) would be telling.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'm VT.

So... why did u think this game was rolemadness?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Then, that just means im useless.
But the same would be true for grapes, why did grapes die?
Why was scum scared of a Vanilla Cop?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Why did you target Grapes N1, Kaede?

Well good news im still a vanilla cop.
I'm quite interested in knowing if someone got vanillized since if no one did, then scum probably doesnt have one and will mean that my role isnt as useful as I thought.
Ftr, last night i investigated grapes since they were the only other PR that was outed together with me and I figured if scum vanillized them instead of me for some reason could help confirm that they were the target of a scum attack, which would be almost like an inno. I initially thought of scanning mastina for the same reason, but after deliberation if scum does have a vanillizer they would target the vanilla cops first, since mastina's IC if real doesnt trigger for another day anyways.

Considering im fine and grapes is fine, im starting to believe it's possible they just flat out dont have one.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually 2384 makes a lot of sense specially with how adamant he was against Ginngie lynch, thanks nancy
VOTE: Dunn

[Kaede Akamatsu]

I'll just uhh

VOTE: Dunn

i'll just say that i think mastina is town

Can't tell if this is a soft that he's gonna visit mastina or he already did.

He defo visited mastina.
N1 he visited muffin, he admitted as much.
N2 he visited Brian, this is obvious by brina's knowledge that nos was town
N3 he visited Wisdom, this is obvious for the same reason.

Goes without saying that Wisdom's conf town, mastina's most likely scum

[Kaede Akamatsu]

kaede, who is scum?

Dunno really. As you can probably tell i've mostly been sheeping the correct people, and trying to figure out bits and pieces based off said information from them and the people they interact with, if I were to give you an estimate, i'd think right now i'd prefer to lynch mastina, but mastina's play Day 3 feels off from a scum PoV, it was pretty obvious by the end of Day 4 that nos was a friendly neighbor because no one "randomly" receives alignment notifications of the same person for any other reason.

Oh and btw i Inspected you last night, if you want me to out that information is up to you

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Btw if things are as I assume they are Katsuki's most likely town anyway.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i would have preferred it if you kept it quiet until it was relevant, but it's not too important, really

Well it's just whether you're VT or not, it's not like it's important to know what result I got, just who I inspected.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Actually this might be easier than I originally thought

Town:

andriod18 (as per Katsuki)
Katsuki (Some things)
Wisdom (Conf town)
Purrcocet (N2 Vig that was blocked by scum)

Lean Town:

Kokichi Oma (Trusing muffin's read)

Scum:

mastina (Potentially being scum that nos hit)

No idea:

Human Sequencer (Havent bothered trying to read)

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Like literally unless Katsuki's read on andriod is wrong, as long as those 4 are never touched we will win.
Imo

[Kaede Akamatsu]

It's okay im pretty sure we win with a mastina lynch.
No need to yell, just want to get everyone's opinion on my list, im open to expand on katsuki if needed, i mean it's not even the fact that he got 2 scum lynched, it goes beyond that.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

IM WITH A FRIEND RN BUT SINCE WE HAVE THE LAST SCUM HERES MY ROLE

IM A MAIN CHARACTER SURPRISE SURPRIUSE
TARGETED MUFFINS N1 (BTW NOS GOT BLOCKED HENCE WHY I WAS FINE WITH HIM BEING CONFIRMED YESTERDAY)
GOT BLOCKED N2 WHICH WAS A SCUMCLAIM WITH ANK NOT DYING
ANDROID N3
MASTINA N4 WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I had already deduced that lol.
That's part of the reason why im pretty sure you're town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

So here's the thing.
Im declaring today that im vanilla coping andriod tonight if we somehow dont win today.
If scum doesnt want that info out that may doom them or get another inno they'll have to kill me.
If they kill Katsuki we get that info, otherwise katsuki lives another day.

Sounds good no?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i think he meant N3, did you?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Kokichi, the problem is that Nos isn't a hider.
him visiting mastina looks bad on mastina yes, but there's the remaining possibility that he was shot instead, mastina visiting nancy also doesnt look good for mastina either, hence why im willing to accept that she's about a 95% guilty party.
Just covering my bases because i dont want to rush without covering the potential of that 5%, now if Katsuki had tracked/watched Nos instead we'd know for certain, but oh well.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Can somebody tell me why mastina is confirmed mad without shouting at me like I'm a retard?
That means anybody except katsuki.

There's high likelyhood Nos crumbed that he was targeting mastina last night.
Weak modifier makes the player commit suicide if they visit a scum member.

Then you have what katsuki claimed about mastina visiting nancy and being visited by nos.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

You know, i just realized that im dumb, and the fact that 2 people died last night points towards the fact that nos visited scum.

oops?

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Okay that removes the doubt in my mind.
VOTE: mastina
Sorry i got confused myself.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

Ok so, further expalanation if people arent convinced.

Katsuki's an MC, he has a very powerful ability, just like nos and ankamius, and unless someone counterclaims MC im gonna continue to believe it so. If he's scum, that implies that scum have 2 MCs which would balance the ammount of power a lot more to the scum side, in which case... katsuki didnt really have any need to pull a double bus, so that's why I believe that Katsuki's almost conf town levels of town.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

UNVOTE:

I guess we should wait to see if Purrcocet shot somoene actually

Purrcocet claimed N2 Vig, that means N2 is the only night he could've shot.

[Kaede Akamatsu]

i don't want town to run into a corner where they just kill themselves in the off chance that mastina flips town

What do you think of my previous list then.