Labyrinth Mafia (Endgame)

[Scioness Sajj]

i'm novice btw

[Scioness Sajj]

can you please full claim including flavour and explain in great detail why you didn't shoot in {Chickadee, Wheme} or something n3? o.0

the fierys
town novice vigilante

[Scioness Sajj]

i have some things from taly from the hood, he made like 2 posts in there

1. he asked me why i have made that hood with him
2. send some of his thought/game solving stuff

[Scioness Sajj]

I said “almost all” except for flavour. I mean all signs point to him being a vig. Which alignment isn’t yet clear.

if you don't trsut me with what you got then I won't be cleared till i flip

[Scioness Sajj]

last check: literally no one wasn't surprised by CShep's flip?

I wasn't because I can't see crumbs so I just assumed something was in those posts after aa9 fake vig.

Why he was killed is another thing.

[Scioness Sajj]

i have some things from taly from the hood, he made like 2 posts in there

1. he asked me why i have made that hood with him
2. send some of his thought/game solving stuff

That’s an odd question. Jareth made the hoods.

What is your read on Taly?

I'm torn on Taly. His past days activity has been minimal. I've read it as active lurking. The replacement eh.

The question I think it is more likely to come from town but he also posted some of his reads (pretty vague) I didn't ask for and never posted again. Should I paraphrase the reads?

[Scioness Sajj]

I said “almost all” except for flavour. I mean all signs point to him being a vig. Which alignment isn’t yet clear.

if you don't trsut me with what you got then I won't be cleared till i flip

Lol, I probably don’t 100% trust ANYONE until they flip but some more than others. Your flavour is anti-town but then so was Angel’s.

However, it doesn’t sound like you had a fakeclaim, that’s why I say “almost all”. You’re in no danger of being lynched today. I guess you’ll have to settle for that for now. If you had vigged scum, you’d be clear. \_0_/

What do you think of Shoshin claiming bodyguard but not targetting CS? She didn’t claim flavour or alignment. Wheme and Taly haven’t claimed anything yet.

Reality is promising to make D5 worth our wait or will claim last - which ever happens first.

It’s a question of wagonoics and probably 2-3 scum left in the game. So all things considered, you’re in a good position atm.

Yeah, aa9 claim made sense to me after I read the link worst posted.

Shoshin claim sounds aweful. But if she was lying it would be best to say that she's been sitting on you all the time. Protecting conf town is the most obvious thing to do. She is actually pretty close to being clear I think? The worst just need to confirm if cs said anything about her D2 claim.

Another thing is that Nico was actually shot regardless of possible protection.

[Scioness Sajj]

Idk how I feel about chick's claim tbh. Flavor cop as opposed to role cop.

Shoshin is giving me the same headache aa9 did.

[Scioness Sajj]

@nancy
Oh I thought your jailkeep wasn't enabled d1

[Scioness Sajj]

Just checked gif's role card. I misunderstood how enabler works nvm that.

[Scioness Sajj]

Oh wow just realized how terrible killing gif was

[Scioness Sajj]

Soooooo I just got a night 1 pm. And I heard the yelling?

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, did you wait until now to claim you got yelled at? Since you are a novice vig, you obviously wouldn’t have been roleblocked.

So Shoshin wasn’t roleblocked? But why would scum redirect it to you? Scum redirected me because they knew I was obvtown N1?

I still intensely dislike Shoshin’s “liability” “lylo” comments.

Can @RadiantCowbells confirm my NA was redirected to Sajj?

no, got it today. posted about 4 hours after it was sent to me.

no clue why they redirected you to me. the only reason i can think of is that you scumread someone correctly. unless you crumbed d1. it also supports your theory that scum knew how the undergroud worked/the events are scum related.

[Scioness Sajj]

or maybe more like disprove mine theory about those being just events.

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj smash your scumrange for me? >: I'd really appreciate it

not sure what smash means in that context.
if you are asking me just about what's in my scumrange then i don't think i can actually help. like i don't think there is anything i wouldn't do as scum unless i think i will fail at delivering. that's why i don't fake ate. but my playstyle gets strongly affected by how i feel in and outside the game so if i'm upset over the game as scum i will just lie about my reasoning if needed. i hate playing scum but i can do some okayish things if i know what's expected of me. you saw that i pyp and it was about the same in my first scum game.

i don't really know what to tell you, i have only played four games

[Scioness Sajj]

tbh the things i didn't do as scum before, like bussing, weren't done before because they didn't feel optimal or we didn't think of doing something. it's all wifom tbf

i'll be super busy for the next 5 hours or so

[Scioness Sajj]

oh wait

i low key bussed UD. but like it was a scum tell imo

[Scioness Sajj]

i want to know what result chick's got on me.

[Scioness Sajj]

chick, how did your result pm look?

[Scioness Sajj]

Did you mean CShep instead of GIF? GIF's role wasn't active.

[Scioness Sajj]

i want to know what result chick's got on me.

I also would love to find out why my NA got redirected from Shoshin to you in particular.

Who was on you D1? Do you remember?

I also found Taly/TPF interzctions strange on D2, possible scum theater?

hmm I was on Shoshin and Sho was on me. I'll check

also, why do you think redirector clears me?

[Scioness Sajj]

well i'm not a firey, i'm the fierys. that's what bothers me

[Scioness Sajj]

nvm i misread your post nancy

[Scioness Sajj]

alright so

*tin foil hat on*

in my role card i'm titled

the Fierys

but on the picture, there is only one of them.

*tin foil hat off*

[Scioness Sajj]

i want to know what result chick's got on me.

I also would love to find out why my NA got redirected from Shoshin to you in particular.

Who was on you D1? Do you remember?

I also found Taly/TPF interzctions strange on D2, possible scum theater?

hmm I was on Shoshin and Sho was on me. I'll check

also, why do you think redirector clears me?

If your claim is true. It doesn’t make sense if it was redirected onto you if you’re scum but you could have theoretically been the one who redirected it to any dead villa other then of course TBG.

No one else has claimed being yelled at but you and my only other target is dead.

i think i'm confusing N1 with N2

oh okay got it.

though, i think it is more about directing you to me thann targeting me with your ability. we are talking n1, i didn't crumb before i shot.

(i'm skimming through d2 but i don't think there was anything about me)

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, can you describe your role in more detail?

Thanks.

not sure how? there is the picture and then it says that i'm the Fierys - town novice vigilante. custom name for novice is slacker and for vig it's head removal.

[Scioness Sajj]

Chick, earlier you said Random was scummy but there were better lynches. Why'd you say that? Who'd you think was a better lynch and why?

You

because you're scummy. I feel like all the points have been brought against you.

this surprises me. i thought you were hinting sr on me

[Scioness Sajj]

i got the alarm thing day 4. the pm is titled night 1 though.

[Scioness Sajj]

i got the alarm thing day 4. the pm is titled night 1 though.

like i know that's not really the point and it doesn't do me any favors

but facts are facts america

[Scioness Sajj]

he said so in the pm but I don't think we will get in thread confirmation.

[Scioness Sajj]

he said so in the pm but I don't think we will get in thread confirmation.

He said he forgot? He should confirm it in thread then.

Worst asked in the thread about this already and in the meantime Reality got answers via PM from RC so I assume he won't speak about it here.

[Scioness Sajj]

@Mod: what result would a Voyeur get from CShep's role?

RC just responded via PM and the result is even more confusing

If I'm interpreting this correctly, then apparently I should only have seen recruit from him

[Scioness Sajj]

You're fine, Sajj. Nancy is having trouble understanding that honesty is towny.

oh it's fine. since we finally started talking to each other i want to keep communication as clear as possible. i also learn this way

[Scioness Sajj]

before you'll start gladiating and forcing us to lynch one of you

where is random?
why would random make a pt with nico?

+ where is wisdom and his claim?

[Scioness Sajj]

If randommidget is town

Do scum have multiple redirects?

Creature was factional redirection enabler, i think its unlikely they have another source

[Scioness Sajj]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Macho

it says that they would be seen

[Scioness Sajj]

hmmm
let me check random's claim

[Scioness Sajj]

FINE
but ftr i am NOT happy about this
i am a neighbour and 3 times per day/night cycle i can send a message of up to 140 chracters. im the wise man.

haven't used it bc i had no idea what point there would be doing it, couldnt think of anything to say
happy to confirm it now

hmmm

[Scioness Sajj]

Reality used thier ability on Nico n2

[Scioness Sajj]

it's probably CS that Reality got a result on. Random doesn't fit

[Scioness Sajj]

it's probably CS that Reality got a result on. Random doesn't fit

No because I jailkept him, so CS was roleblocked.

And Reality already said that CS was a RECRUIT not a blocking action.

So reality if reality wouldn't get communicative result from cs but something else then we don't have a role that fits what reality saw

[Scioness Sajj]

Sho, why did you claim your protective to CShep?

[Scioness Sajj]

Wisdom, why don't you want to lynch chick first?

[Scioness Sajj]

Chick starts making sense to me as town :/

[Scioness Sajj]

Wisdom, why don't you want to lynch chick first?

bc chick isnt shitting up the thread like shoshin is

hi wisdom

i would say that a reason for chick lynch.
going by claims it would be more beneficial to lynch now vt claim of chick than possible protective shoshin.

[Scioness Sajj]

and if shoshin is scum with chick but pushing random instead of busing means chick may have a good na

[Scioness Sajj]

What I am trying to say is that I'm more confident in scum in {chick, random} than in chick/shoshin

[Scioness Sajj]

What I am trying to say is that I'm more confident in scum in {chick, random} than in chick/shoshin

So, are you willing to lynch Random?

What're your thoughts on Wisdom?

kind of yes. i'm townreading random of his contribution d2 but right now i'm only judging base on mechanical stuff and he looks worse than chick is. still need to think if it's a direction worth taking tbh.

wisom is nullish town. he seems like a self resolving slot so i don't really bother trying to sort him now.

[Scioness Sajj]

wait let me check if chick is actually in a hood with random or i'm confusing something

[Scioness Sajj]

What I am trying to say is that I'm more confident in scum in {chick, random} than in chick/shoshin

Can you elaborate on this?

it's mostly based on them having a hood that was started before the game, similar to wheme/reality hood.
reality/wheme hood is connected by flavor and role.
random/chick hood is connected by flavor? (if the hat chick talks about is the wiseman's hat).

[Scioness Sajj]

i'm only judging base on mechanical stuff and he looks worse than chick is.

how
One is a messenger and the other is a 1shot flavor cop who claimed a result everyone already knew
How is random possibly worse than that

scum have fakeclaims so identity cop is plausible
messenger is like whatever

[Scioness Sajj]

creater was factional redirector enabler his fakeclaim was town redirector.

it does sounds weak but town roles so far hasn't beeen strong.
jk enabler
1-shot reviver
jk that needs enabling
macho cop
post restricted something that aa9 had

[Scioness Sajj]

i mean yeah, she could have made it up.

but she did not fail to claim full role and i expect fake claims to be provable after all.

p.edit yeah i was thinking that ealier, i will think about it some more.

[Scioness Sajj]

well it's not really indicative in my case

[Scioness Sajj]

the original point was that chick's role seems too weak compared to other town roles and i don't really agree.

[Scioness Sajj]

if we lynch chick on red flip i shoot sho, on green i shoot random

same if we lynch sho.

[Scioness Sajj]

Hey Sajj, why not lynch Random?

Or Wisdom?

I'd be fine with random, too.

I don't really see reasons to lynch wisdom.

[Scioness Sajj]

Okay, just heard from RC. GIF dying means that my NA failed, so CS was definitely the successful communicative action. No derp, just NAR.

RC said that you action failed not why it failed, right?

[Scioness Sajj]

What I am trying to say is that I'm more confident in scum in {chick, random} than in chick/shoshin

Can you elaborate on this?

it's mostly based on them having a hood that was started before the game, similar to wheme/reality hood.
reality/wheme hood is connected by flavor and role.
random/chick hood is connected by flavor? (if the hat chick talks about is the wiseman's hat).

You know that Jareth first visits Sarah as an owl but what do you make of Wisdom’s role pm. He lives ifvSarah/CS dies?

I only know stuff that I have read on wikia. I have not seen the movie. I will read about it and let you know.

[Scioness Sajj]

I'm so tired of this game

I will shoot sho if chick flips red


how's random obvtown?

[Scioness Sajj]

You cannot prove shit

What's the harm in letting me prove it?

how do you think you will prove it?

[Scioness Sajj]

being vig feels terrible btw
2/10 never again

[Scioness Sajj]

you are really confident in getting the protection right

VOTE: chickadee

[Scioness Sajj]

i think i messed up somewhere

[Scioness Sajj]

I was in shot that's it

[Scioness Sajj]

One

[Scioness Sajj]

I never fake claimed. Novice is not amount of shots related. Novice disallowed me to shoot N1.

[Scioness Sajj]

yeah, i am aware how it looks not gonna argue against it.

though it's still town novice 1-shot.

[Scioness Sajj]

We repeatedly told you that if you dont shoot shoshin we should lynch her
You could have told us you cant shoot her and you didnt
You are scum with her

if i retracted at that time you would want to lynch me all the same. at the moment i said i'd be shooting in {random, chick} it was done deal.
if i was scum with her i would have no reason to push for chick lynch nor would i gain any advantage from not retracting.

[Scioness Sajj]

feels good lynching CShep's #1 scumread tbh

now tell me you have been scumreading me all this time

[Scioness Sajj]

fuck off with commander

thanks

[Scioness Sajj]

i will have to say some things after everybody posts

[Scioness Sajj]

actually only waiting for wheme

[Scioness Sajj]

okay since i'm at l-1

do you really think mafia has vig, protective and strongman?

[Scioness Sajj]

in case when i will be back i will already be hammered

after me you go shoshin then:

shoshin red filp -> wheme/worst
shoshin grean flip -> random/wisdom

though green flip is unlikely.

[Scioness Sajj]

Who do you think the last scum is, Sajj?

well i was expecting two scum but if there was one i'd say it's you

[Scioness Sajj]

idk

last day twilight wasn't really impressive on your part. and lie if you are town then why protect nancy?

[Scioness Sajj]

and like not and lie

[Scioness Sajj]

you also said you'd prove yourself but you didn't

[Scioness Sajj]

i mean, we are lynching me today and you tomorrow will be lylo with two scums sooo

you are getting your wish

[Scioness Sajj]

i can't write

i mean, we are lynching me today and

you

tomorrow will be lylo with two scums sooo

[Scioness Sajj]

Why do you think there are two scum?

And why are we lynching you?

idk it was always assumed to be 4-11 not 3-12. 3 scum would be nice surprise but i'm not going to be optimistic

too many players cosplaying village idiots right now

well there is wagon on me, and if we are not lynching me we are lynching you

[Scioness Sajj]

i'm having a feeling you are looking for towncred shoshin

didn't want to shoot the most scumread people, wanted someone low activity and somehow scummy

[Scioness Sajj]

the thing is i don't think it is mechanically possible for us to share alignment.

[Scioness Sajj]

makes no sense for us to be scum together, makes no sense for both you and wisdom to be town. so the worst case scenario it is actually wisdom and not you.

if you are town your objectives in this game are to find and lynch scum to the best of your ability.

[Scioness Sajj]

I hate this line of thinking. The whole "it makes no sense for X mechanic" assumes knowledge of what roles the scum have when we just don't know.

both you and me are confirmed to have killing and protective ability respectively.

you even more so than i but if somebody else shoot gif and they still didn't say anything then welp

[Scioness Sajj]

If anything, Wisdom's role kinda makes sense as scum when combined with Chick's role.

wat

[Scioness Sajj]

Jailkeeper/enablers plus bodyguard plus macho cop is a very reasonable amount of protection for town to have. Jailkeeper can't protect without also blocking. Jailkeepr can be disabled by killing enabler. And bodyguard can't protect without dying in the process. On top of all that, nobody can protect the macho cop. And scum have a strongman.

You'd be crazy not to believe that town has this much protection in light of scum redirector, scum strongman, and a macho cop.

forgot reviver

[Scioness Sajj]

but sarah is dead

[Scioness Sajj]

Just think about it for a second, Sajj. Why do scum have an identity cop?

Have not really thought why would scum have identity cop. No clue how much information she actually got but assuming it was as she said then it in itself is a good fakeclaim. If Chick has chosen her target better she could be close to cleared.

Reviver isn't protection though I wonder if redirector could theoretically cause scum to be revived?
Also, strongman is specifically about getting through jailkeeper and bodyguard.

I mean if you think I'm scum then reviver is pretty much a protection since all nk actions come from scum.
If you don't think I'm scum reviver also has a really decent chance to bring back a town anyways.

[Scioness Sajj]

I'm guessing Wisdom used a fakeclaim and I'm guessing his fakeclaim is related to his actual role just like all the fakeclaims have been. And I'm guessing his real role has a connection to Sarah just like the fakeclaim. And that explains why scum are looking for Sarah.

what do you mean

so far fakeclaims has been either full or part of actual role.

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, why didn't you just claim 1-shot vig to begin with?

at that point in the game i felt like getting night killed wouldn't be the worst course of action. didn't think it would be that much of damage to town and i still think it wasn't. perhaps more than i was expecting but not game losing case. was thinking of clarifying when the worst started planning my na but decided to stick with it and here we are.
still think killing GIF is my biggest sin.

i also never gambited before, it's fun

[Scioness Sajj]

i could keep going like that with you for few more pages but we need answers not question, so unless you have a good solution don't think there is much point.

i believe going me>you>(wheme>worst)or(wisdom>random) is the right way.

[Scioness Sajj]

eh, I know I'm the only one listening in the moment but i'm not the one you should be talking to.

[Scioness Sajj]

nah not taking credit for losing the game if it happens.

you have been providing a lot of maybes, maybes are possible but there is no way in figuring out how plausible they are. and it's not like I'm going to hammer myself so if you think going me>you is wrong then you gotta appeal to people voting not me.

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, I protected Nico on the same night that scum killed Nico. That's an undeniable fact.

I want you to think about why scum would ever use protect a cop from being nightkilled. The answer is, they wouldn't. My action makes sense

ONLY

from a town perspective.

not if:
you are scum protective and you knew that nico was going to check either random/reality (and there was no lynch d1) so it was worth gambiting
+
if wheme is scum with you that gives you even more reason to do that.

[Scioness Sajj]

I'm not providing possibilities, I'm providing probabilities.

It's highly improbable that scum protect a cop from being nightkilled. That's a fucking fact.

it is highly imporbable that scum vig wouldn't retract bluff about being able to kill a townie/scumpartner while pushing lynch on another scum partner.
yet here i am

[Scioness Sajj]

I'm sorry sho, i know i'm irritating you but i have achieved really peacful state.

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, the people voting you are the scum who need to be lynched.

My appeals will be to you, Nancy, and Wheme.

but there is two two many, maybe one so.

i'm rather confident where to look when you flip but for you to flip i have to flip to.

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, I protected Nico on the same night that scum killed Nico. That's an undeniable fact.

I want you to think about why scum would ever use protect a cop from being nightkilled. The answer is, they wouldn't. My action makes sense

ONLY

from a town perspective.

not if:
you are scum protective and you knew that nico was going to check either random/reality (and there was no lynch d1) so it was worth gambiting
+
if wheme is scum with you that gives you even more reason to do that.

So, for me to be scum, I would have had to known that Reality was going to check Nico and that Nico was macho cop. As scum, how could I know either of those facts?

iirc wheme knew that reality was going nico, if he is scum with you that would be good play to go with even if it made nico survive one more night.
if you didn't then still gambiting it is possible especially that you would have CShepard to testify.

p. edit Random it's to me or to Sho?

[Scioness Sajj]

oh in your hood right
did CS confirm that you claimed to him?

i think shepard claimed it to worst the night he died.

[Scioness Sajj]

ooo interesting

[Scioness Sajj]

unless you arent rly a bg ~

what do you think she is?

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, anything is fucking possible. Anything. You could be scum vig. Nancy could be scum jailkeeper who visited you and Nico was redirected to town. Who the fuck knows? Anything is possible in mafia.

You win by lynching based on probability, not based on what's possible.

Scum use what's possible to push mislynches. Don't let them.

so far scum are pushing nothing. there is town consensus on what to do with me so they don't need to. you know what i think is the most probable, it's you being scum.
you think it's wisdom because he has some connection to sarah and that's why he needed chick how probable is that?

[Scioness Sajj]

hmm let me check how macho works

[Scioness Sajj]

Scum aren't pushing your mislynch?

i wouldn't call mindlessly voting pushing

i guess that's semantics.

[Scioness Sajj]

I mean, fuck it, maybe Sajj is scum. I don't see how a townie in your spot doesn't suspect the people pushing her lynch and calls them a "town consensus."

i don't know about you but if there was somebody else in my spot i would want them lynched too
sooo

[Scioness Sajj]

eh, nothing there:

This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. It negates the effects of a Doctor or Bodyguard protecting it, although both would still be seen as having visited a Macho role.

[Scioness Sajj]

From my perspective, a town 1-shot vig always claims to have multiple shots to keep scum on their toes. I've seen it before. More than once.

yeah but people in this game don't really believe in reads nor are reading me strongly anyway
and some other things that actually nobody said when voting me which makes me curious but oh well

[Scioness Sajj]

Besides, there's no scum strategy behind saying you're going to kill me and then me being alive the next day.

well
it is close to heavy wifoming and i'm not going there.

[Scioness Sajj]

give me a solve shoshin

not me, not you then who and why

[Scioness Sajj]

wheme/nancy hammer pls

do you think scum has vig, protective and strongman?

[Scioness Sajj]

you have been arguing setup yesterday with me.

and scum needs that protective to do not accidentally shoot themselves?

[Scioness Sajj]

shoshin is not being wagoned

[Scioness Sajj]

you say you are lynching me because i lied, so retracting the lie wouldn't change it. yet you are calling bullshit on me agreeing with it.

[Scioness Sajj]

I don't think any scum busses chick like that. Also if we have 4 people scum team with chick we would be in mylo today

[Scioness Sajj]

Chick alive

[Scioness Sajj]

yeah, probably best course of action

you have to lynch shoshin tomorrow

[Scioness Sajj]

if shoshin also flips green it's either game over or you lynch wisdom

shoshin red -> wheme -> worst

[Scioness Sajj]

maybe the worst over wisdom actually

[Scioness Sajj]

I never really scum read random and he doesn't make much sense to me as scum with chick

[Scioness Sajj]

although i'm confident nither of three of you voting me spent more than 20 seconds thinking about it.

[Scioness Sajj]

not reading the game, thinking about it.

[Scioness Sajj]

what motivation do you think i had for lying about being 1 shot

[Scioness Sajj]

it's day 5, it is time for you to start explaining what you think and why you do what you do.

[Scioness Sajj]

the hell

[Scioness Sajj]

who needs reads or votes when there are reaction tests amirite

VOTE: the worst

[Scioness Sajj]

why don't you gladiate me

[Scioness Sajj]

you are full of shit drunk or not

[Scioness Sajj]

He is afraid to gladiate me let's be honest here

We will keep talking how much scum claiming I am but won't even vote

[Scioness Sajj]

yes keep reflecting

why are you afraid of putting me at L-1? why are you afraid of gladiating me?

[Scioness Sajj]

you are full of shit drunk or not

oh right

almost forgot

[Scioness Sajj]

nah today it's me

let's deal with obv scum vig lairs first

[Scioness Sajj]

scared of a little bit of ate, aren't we?

look at worst, he has experience with me - played a game also claims he read some; and he clearly thinks i'm scum here. no reason not to trust, right?

[Scioness Sajj]

what motivation do you think i had for lying about being 1 shot

it's day 5, it is time for you to start explaining what you think and why you do what you do.

you suddenly pulled some bullshit about tryna eat the nk within 24 hours from backing up your awkward soft. TBH I figured some scumbuddy fed you the "trying to eat the nk" story. xD

UNVOTE: I'll be sensible when I'm sober xoxox


sorry Wizzy ILY I was hoping Sajj or wheme would go full stupid

you are not voting me

[Scioness Sajj]

yeah but if you're scum you're clearly baiting me to self vanillaise which means you have a deepwolf yoire banking on

if you're town you're either drunk yourself or stupid


please don't underestimate me I'm dealing with this tomorrow.

shoshin has been deepwolfing whole game, doing great so far

[Scioness Sajj]

Sho, you have forgot i'm also an sk.

[Scioness Sajj]

i mean

you have to talk with people capable of playing the game about my reasons. or my scumbuddies.
...or my sk buddy?

[Scioness Sajj]

i think so yes

[Scioness Sajj]

if there are two scum we are pretty much done.

may got lucky with one

[Scioness Sajj]

i will keep being mean to wisdom and the worst

we should wait for Nancy but i'm not sure if i want her to see all of this

[Scioness Sajj]

Scum scum hood?

Nah

[Scioness Sajj]

Defies its purpose

[Scioness Sajj]

I guess it's not impossible but don't think it's likely

[Scioness Sajj]

Lol right just read the flip

[Scioness Sajj]

Explain?

[Scioness Sajj]

I don't think reality and wheme would lie about being in hood with chick

[Scioness Sajj]

ok if nancy is town vig directing to someone who is scum is bad
if she's a protective or investigative, it's good because it could take her off of town onto scum creating a false positive or stopping a protection onto their target

yeah but it was n1 action
it's more likely i'm lying about being targeted than it is for scum to know nancy's role

[Scioness Sajj]

I don't think reality and wheme would lie about being in hood with chick

Reality and Wheme don't know who is in their hood.

Reality thought that I was in the hood but had been lurking to get information. Or something like that. Like, there's no reason to believe their hood is exclusive to Reality and Wheme.

???
I don't remember reading about it?

[Scioness Sajj]

okay, i have found where RC has mentioned it.

[Scioness Sajj]

Was it the worst or Nancy? Can't remember.

don't think it was nancy since she targeted them

[Scioness Sajj]

meh not thinking about this game until nancy's back, somebody says something interesting or i get gladiated

[Scioness Sajj]

will have to flip you to figure it out

[Scioness Sajj]

idk, it doesn't actually solve the problem. maybe it was Cshep maybe it was scum eavesdropper

[Scioness Sajj]

with all those possibilities and fake claims we can't figure it out, not with the info we have as of right now.

i have no clue why you are defending me, i have no clue why chick checked me, i have no clue why nancy was redirected to me

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj, do you think the worst is town? If so, why?

playing too bad to be scum

[Scioness Sajj]

i have just been maybe enlightened.

[Scioness Sajj]

probably not because it's me but yeah i will think about it overnight.

[Scioness Sajj]

i sorta am kidding yeah

better than being to dumb to be town imo

[Scioness Sajj]

i honestly don't remember

[Scioness Sajj]

oh my god

i thought there was a reason for chick to check me but it's not there

don't think nancy would lie about it, like no wtf are you talking about sho

[Scioness Sajj]

hey random what's your solve?

[Scioness Sajj]

check rules and ask but i don't think so.

[Scioness Sajj]

Please explain. Thanks. As you already know CS was JK by me on N2, so he was RBed.

[Scioness Sajj]

so was he rb or not

[Scioness Sajj]

Shepard was not roleblocked on N2 because Nancy's role failed.

did it fail because of my kill?

i have to reread i don't remember half of the things that happened

[Scioness Sajj]

lol

[Scioness Sajj]

Wheme do you have any night results?

[Scioness Sajj]

Oh lmao Nancy

[Scioness Sajj]

Hmm was I was i not hammered

I think I was
good

[Scioness Sajj]

Thought game was easy and solved

[Scioness Sajj]

If it is not Shoshin

Good luck tomorrow

[Scioness Sajj]

Don't know

Probably wheme, he has been pretty accurate this game might be bussing

[Scioness Sajj]

I keep thinking about this
in a game with so many hoods could it actually be a scum/scum hood?

Should kill this over shoshin maybe

1. Is still alive
2. Didn't even gladiate
3. Was not killed past few nights

[Scioness Sajj]

I'd feel super sorry for Shoshin if she is town. And is actually pretty likely. Unless scum with wheme.

[Scioness Sajj]

I counted it was 4 votes.

Random, wheme, the worst, nancy

[Scioness Sajj]

The only reason to kill reality over anybody else was:
1.shos last scum
2.scum assumed I would kill sho
3. Reality has info that they didn't share wrt wheme

[Scioness Sajj]

Chick interactions looked like scum scum with wheme i guess

[Scioness Sajj]

Pretty sure it counts when it happens Nancy

It's fine tho. Plenty of reasons to lynch my anyways

[Scioness Sajj]

Beside the connection to shoshin

No way I am scum with shoshin

[Scioness Sajj]

GG guys, thanks for hosting RC

[Scioness Sajj]

Sajj.....
still friends?
your lynch was teh sux and I feel stupid for playing a part in it

oh, yeah sure! don't worry about it. nothing wrong with being wrong lol

[Scioness Sajj]

yeah, Shoshin deserves credit for this win, her reads were good and she put a lot more effort than we probably deserved.

for what it's worth I don't think not claiming shots was bad decision nor was it incriminating. i didn't really execute it well and got distracted by other things, though.

[Scioness Sajj]

sajj don't be afraid of what town will think of you. That was silly. Just be honest.
Also you should have insisted more about the redirect thing. You were basically conftown yet you got lynched.

i'm not sure what you are referring to, what was silly?
at first, i didn't claim because i thought i might get night killed, then, at the eotd, i wanted to reaction test but in the end i did nothing with that.

yeah, you are right i should have pushed the redirect thing (though i don't think it would get me far considering i got n1 action on d4 and for some reason people were thinking that novice was also a fakeclaim), but i got upset and if you and the worst still had votes on me when i was pushing for gladiate i would have hammered myself out of spite.

[Scioness Sajj]

@theworst
i mean i was asked so I did claim how it was beside how many shots i was. i still could be 2 or 3 or whatever shots with a novice modifier i think. i didn't think claiming novice would matter.

@wisdom
i was thinking about calming after chick was hammered but the thread got locked before i have made up my mind. and then i didn't really bother thinking about the game until the day started. i mean i ultimately thought that it wouldn't matter that much i.e. if people were scumreading me they would still regardless of the claim.
i sure have misjudged the situation.