Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[Creature]

Hey Nosferatu, why are you town again?

[Creature]

Oh right, you hyperposted

[Creature]

"what about zMuffinMan?"

"wtf creature you're scaring me cherrypicking people doing less crap when there are people doing more crap"

[Creature]

Yeh, our wincon says we only need to eliminate wolves.

Gonna assume this game isn't bastard.

[Creature]

Unlike RC/Titus who is practically dead scum walking

So we picked the wrong dead scum walking?

[Creature]

Yeh, our wincon says we only need to eliminate wolves.

Gonna assume this game isn't bastard.

Of which Oath said he is not town
Replace revive with 1 shot BP
Replace vampire with werewolf

RC tried to mislynch me
Oath took up the mantle

This isn’t rocket science

so Brian Skies decided to save him because what?

[Creature]

only reason I'm not trying to lynch Oath rn is because there's no wolf dead.

[Creature]

Yeah, we gotta solve that Math/RC convo.

[Creature]

VOTE: Titus

[Creature]

muffin can still die

Hi, should I suicide bomb there?

[Creature]

muffin can still die

Hi, should I suicide bomb there?

Sure, but is there any reason for that over the unresolved Titus/Math thing or Ank?

Maybe scum dying will give us better inspiration rather than a dead antitown town.

[Creature]

just want to see if Muffin has last reads before I submit it.

[Creature]

It's the werewolf kill flavor that's missing.

Did Mastina indicate that much?

Pretty sure "torn to shreds" wasn't random.

[Creature]

im a 2-shot seer

Uh oh, hebichan gotta see this

[Creature]

exploding on muffin is a good idea

I want to look into Nosferatu next

thought he was pretty town

[Creature]

Is there any scum outside the neighborhood besides zMuffinMan?

[Creature]

can't buy cop + semicop here.

[Creature]

I don't really want to kill someone in the neighborhood because I don't want neighborhood wasting a night recruiting someone.

[Creature]

Uh sure, I want AA9 policy killed at some point.

What a waste of slot.

[Creature]

lol did Vecna link a game I miserably failed and said that's proof I'm good at scum?

No offence, but compared to your good towngames youre also not doing too well in this one (but I guess that can be said about me as well).

The difference is youre not being very outspoken, and youre not providing a lot of reasoning for anything.

Yeh, been not in my best days and even considered quitting MS for good

but hey, atleast I handed you one scum in a silver platter.

[Creature]

I can't identify more than 3 scum rn tbh

[Creature]

zMuffinMan is pretty much outed

[Creature]

both Math and Brian Skies look bad, but yeah, I agree on the point on why they just not kill Gamma and take the neighborhood for themselves

[Creature]

also not much fan of Titus

[Creature]

then there's AA9 which is a big waste

[Creature]

Everyone else feels town

[Creature]

Oh right, Oath has high traitor equity

[Creature]

Oh right, neighborhood ceases to work if there's no human left

[Creature]

the "therefore..." doesnt follow from that, ankamius

When are you gonna start lolcatting?

[Creature]

Hi Creature. Any reason you haven't used your ability on zmuffin yet?

I may want to suicide bomb someone else and leave the outed scum for someone else.

[Creature]

Oh right, neighborhood ceases to work if there's no human left

Wait what? It states that mechanically the neighbourhood stops functioning if theres no humans in it anymore?

Yeh

[Creature]

lol keeping the hood a secret

[Creature]

What was I going to say?

[Creature]

Oh right

Neighborhood

won't

recruit

anyone

tonight

[Creature]

would rather have neighborhood taking care of the outed scum we got rn rather than waste a recruit on a peahead likely dying tonight

[Creature]

@Vecna, Creature is pulling the same stunt I pulled ages ago. Claim suicide bomber. Never use ability. Cause town to implode.

Past game

@Math stop whining because you Creature and z are caught.

lol what? I didn't even play that game

[Creature]

I wonder who's the next scum I'm going to out

[Creature]

zMuffinMan and traitor!Oath are already outed

[Creature]

I'm gonna be surprised if scum ever admits they're outed

their ego is like

just too big

[Creature]

We're not gonna recruit

we're gonna leash the neighborhood

if scum are gonna kill each neighborhood member

they're just gonna help us rn

[Creature]

We have four neighborhood members

when we no longer see someone being lynched at night we'll know there are only scum left in the hood

[Creature]

We're gonna collectively leash the hood now

[Creature]

if someone we didn't want dies we already know where to look for

[Creature]

I don't mind the hood going extinct

It's more likely the hood is gonna get endgamed though

[Creature]

Titus seemed quite convincingly to wanna lynch Oath.

It's just an useless and now outed traitor anyway.

[Creature]

Meh, the vig is allowed to shoot in the hood

[Creature]

No

[Creature]

Then what is your role/actions etc?

Are we massclaiming rn?

[Creature]

No

Don't fake suicide bomber ever again please. I don't trust you but there are bigger fish to fry now.

Don't worry, atleast I don't fake guilties on players that irritate me.

[Creature]

Remember that scum when caught won't just go like "oh damn you got me gg"

[Creature]

can agree Brian is scum

[Creature]

Day's gonna be boring lynching outed scum

[Creature]

Do we lynch outed scum and gain a red flip to motivate us tonight or do we risk somewhere else and let something else (like the hood) take care of Muffin?

[Creature]

MathBlade - 2 (Oath, zMuffinMan)
Titus - 2 (Creature, Brian Skies)

Oh look where are my scumreads.

[Creature]

Sure, we can lynch Brian Skies, WE DO NOT RECRUIT, we maybe lynch Oath who's 1-shot BP and vig takes care of Muffin

[Creature]

If all this shit turns up red, have faith in me and we recruit Nos.

gonna make sure the game will end before you even think about wasting a night on a recruit

[Creature]

Do we lynch outed scum and gain a red flip to motivate us tonight or do we risk somewhere else and let something else (like the hood) take care of Muffin?

Are you seriously arguing not lynching outed scum?

I wanted to threat another scum with suicide bomber, so why not threat them with lynch?

[Creature]

And technically the vig could be scum :/ Doubtful but possible.

not normal.

[Creature]

I expect game to reach F4 or F3 before hood is extinct but whatever

[Creature]

why are we recruiting nos

because scum gotta kill the clears?

[Creature]

Ank, MathBlade, Creature -scumz

Oath OUT

Hahaha very funny but Muffin is pretty much outed at this point and Math made a good argument as to why Math and I aren't scum together.

[Creature]

Who did you RB last night Oath?

hebichan but it was unsuccessful

Why would you roleblock claimed PT cop?

[Creature]

VOTE: zMuffinMan

[Creature]

Oath's claim is like too weird to be scum

[Creature]

atleast too weird to be a fakeclaim

[Creature]

Oath's claim is like too weird to be scum

atleast too weird to be a fakeclaim

I've seen weirder.

VOTE: creature

Math might be scum, but might also just be bad,

and creature gives us better associatives on math

, scum creature makes scum math a lot more likely. I'm not as convinced the other way around is true.

Me flipping town doesn't give anything though

[Creature]

What happened now?

[Creature]

Should we just lynch Muffin today?

[Creature]

still, though, I can't understand Oath's role

[Creature]

can we please not lynch the rc slot for the thing he does every game and instead lynch obv scum muffin ty

Fixed this for Nosferatu

[Creature]

having to go through Math v RC shit was pretty demotivating

[Creature]

Still I was trying to not have Luna Nova lynched D1 at some point

[Creature]

A townflip rn would be even more demotivating

[Creature]

Setup spec is setup was randomized to have atleast one town but PoE indicates one scum in it

[Creature]

hebichan, are you alright?

[Creature]

You look pale

[Creature]

Did your conftowns do something?

[Creature]

The only scum I can rn identify outside the neighborhood are Muffin and Oath.

[Creature]

It's missing one.

[Creature]

otherwise my PoE would be like Muffin + Oath + Math + Brian, with Math deciding to use neighborhood to their advantage rather than just eliminating it.

[Creature]

I'm gonna hope one of them is the traitor and we have a scumteam of muffin + Oath + {Brian/Math}

[Creature]

Okay, I think we should do Oath because of his 1-shot BP

VOTE: Oath

[Creature]

though sorta skeptical about leaving outed scum get into the night

[Creature]

Okay, may want Oath around.

UNVOTE:

[Creature]

Are we going to leash the neighborhood tonight? Otherwise it's likely both Brian and Math will want to kill Titus.

[Creature]

I fear it's gonna be like Theta.

[Creature]

also maybe we should have more players suggesting a night lynch other than the neighborhood itself.

[Creature]

Oh lol, been forgetting about ArcAngel's slot lately.

[Creature]

Wait, where did that scum has no PT come from?

[Creature]

Heh we still lynch Muffin

[Creature]

I'd rather not leash vig

[Creature]

Oh right, I remembered Brian Skies is still around

[Creature]

We can't find scum so we're doubting hebichan's results

[Creature]

also the fact I would be instalynching Vecna rn if it wasn't for the result

[Creature]

Did Brian do anything towny lately?

[Creature]

Literally don't understand why Oath having a 1-Shot BP should even be a concern.

I'm afraid he'll survive any kill attempt (including the hood lynch) during the night.

[Creature]

Literally don't understand why Oath having a 1-Shot BP should even be a concern.

I'm afraid he'll survive any kill attempt (including the hood lynch) during the night.

Any kill attempt? Meaning vig, hood, or wolf? So you think I'm not a wolf and a possible target for their NK, right? In which case, why is my survival detrimental??

Seriously, what is wrong with me surviving if you're afraid that I'm even a target for NK? I've also stated that if I were to be killed, the person responsible (if it were a vig or the hood) would receive a copy of my role pm and be able to confirm everything I've told you. How is that detrimental?

This was at the time I expressed my concern about you having 1-shot revival.

[Creature]

Is it just me or Toranaga disappeared as soon he checked his role PM?

[Creature]

No im attacking you for suggesting that Math and Zmuffin are confirmed scum together

Atleast zMuffin and his 2-shot seer claim puts him pretty close to confscum

[Creature]

Where is Toranaga?

[Creature]

Creature - Most Likely Scum (out of this list anyways)
zMuffinMan - Unlikely Scum

Tell me you're kidding...

[Creature]

What's stopping you from voting Creature, anyway?

Fakeclaiming suicide bomber is stupid for scum to do.

[Creature]

Also anyone still clinging to old meta on creature; Check the just now finished transformers game, where creature breaks his entire scummeta by freeposting a lot and gets townread for the exact same weaksauce reason as always happens. Theres plenty other examples for people to check up on.

Did you notice my play change lately when I started playing Transformers? I feel like I started somehow playing like I was playing in Transformers when it started.

[Creature]

tbh I'm 0% happy Toranaga replaced in and hasn't posted yet.

[Creature]

I was already playing different than my scummeta before that game, why would I change it?

[Creature]

guess I'm gonna stay with the safe lynch

[Creature]

What's the VC like?

[Creature]

I'm now super afraid we're gonna leave outed scum live for tonight.

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Annnnnd I'm officially checked out of the game emotionally
people seem to be dedicated to having their heads up their asses

Don't worry, that's coming from someone that claimed 2-shot ser when there was already a PT cop claim, is counterclaimed again and appears only occasionally only to say "lynch creature" like scum grasping a last effort before going down.

[Creature]

This game's being painful because the simplest solution (lynch the obvscum) isn't being that simple.

[Creature]

Any downsides to lynching zMuffin (excluding "he can be town")?

[Creature]

Don't worry, that's coming from someone that claimed 2-shot ser when there was already a PT cop claim

does the pt cop actually seem like a town role to you

Seems to make the most sense

[Creature]

I tracked Mathblade to the kill yesterday

Officially a 1v1 now so stop shit voting elsewhere

why is mathblade alive? why wasn't this ever sorted?

because neighborhood lynches count as visit.

[Creature]

This game's being painful because the simplest solution (lynch the obvscum) isn't being that simple.

who's obvscum?

zMuffinMan

claimed 2-shot seer

on Theta and Vecna

when there's already a PT cop

who had already cleared Vecna

and is now just occasionally appearing to say "creature is scum"

[Creature]

though we can't assume the setup is dumb

[Creature]

unless you're up for some "hebichan is fakeclaiming PT cop and clearing her partners"

[Creature]

I've been doing other stuff earlier, but then players decided to try to lynch Titus and I'm like "damn, let's just get done with this day with a non-shitty lynch"

[Creature]

Brian Skies

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Oh, Toranaga too

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even considered Math at some point

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questioned hebichan at some point

[Creature]

oh, and had voted Titus too

[Creature]

so I haven't been just "muffin scum, Oath traitor"

[Creature]

My posts aren't default "X is scum"

though, when I say something like "oh, X already went lurking mode" the message should be pretty obvious

[Creature]

can agree Brian is scum

wait nm you did call brian scum. im wrong

40 pages ago though

Yeh, the time the thread discussion actually mattered rather than just "lynch Titus"

[Creature]

Oath's still claiming 3p or is claiming aligned with town now?

[Creature]

the fact that you can bring up stray mentions of other players doesn't change this

They aren't stray mentions, I've even suggested to kill Brian by day lynch or vig kill.

[Creature]

also seeing as the entire basis for you calling me scum atm is my claim

You were pretty much coasting before I threatened a suicide bomb on you.

[Creature]

it's pretty funny that you're not answering the question about why it's apparently so scummy

PT cop and 2-shot seer are like two cops (except one can't detect traitor, lol)

thus I don't recall mastina doing X-shot roles besides those that obviously need to be limited.

[Creature]

Him replacing out made me change my mind

[Creature]

Town PT cop
Town 2-shot seer
Town Tracker

How many of these are true?

[Creature]

What would be the point of a scum PT cop?

[Creature]

12 Town

Town Neighborizer
Town Jailkeeper
Town Vigilante
Town Seer
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Neighbor
Town Vanilla
Town Vinalla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla
Town Vanilla

6 non-town

Vampire

Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf PR
Wolf Vanilla
Wolf Vanilla

Is the setup I'm looking at rn

That's how you make players not want to play your games.

[Creature]

What would be the point of a scum PT cop?

Faked claim they can easily pull off, especially if scum is in the hood.

So not scum PT cop, just scum.

[Creature]

What were the failed results again?

[Creature]

Guys, if we dont appoint some obv-town guy for sheeping we are guaranteed to only land on town today.

Why don't you take the lead when you're doublecleared?

[Creature]

I prefer the zMuffinMan lynch obviously, but I can also do Toranaga as he seems to be dodging this thread.

[Creature]

Yeh, I buy Titus' claim more than hebi's and Muffin's

[Creature]

I know Muffin's claim seems too bad to be scum, but it also seems too bad to be true.

[Creature]

Yeh, I buy Titus' claim more than hebi's and Muffin's

Why do you believe the slot who has fake claimed twice?

because it's RC.

[Creature]

Oh right, but it still might be possible scum took RC's claim as seriously and suggested Titus to keep up with the claim.

[Creature]

that's not the common ratio
13/3 = ~4
but 13ps generally have 3, which is ~13/4
so it's divide by 4

It's hard to get a 9:3:1 ratio when there's 18 people

Well let's consider in two past 18ps mastina has had 4 mafia (night and day, and mod is mafia). So the mod meta is in that area.

mastina mod meta suggests there are different wincons besides town (with no special win condition) and scum?

[Creature]

VOTE: Toranaga

[Creature]

Yeh, I find it pretty unlikely town will win, but what can I do?

[Creature]

VOTE: Lady Angel

[Creature]

Oh, this is the game I probably get mislynched because I've like exhausted my energy.

[Creature]

If theres any dodgy kill suggestion from Math/GE/Creature tonight, the remaining human in there better block any and all of them kill attempts.

Remember when I was asking someone to leash the neighborhood?

[Creature]

The heck was this game.

[Creature]

So basically we had three somewhat-powered survivors this game.

[Creature]

Wow

Four wolves in a row

Great comeback here

[Creature]

Thanks for the freelo I guess.

(actually I still should be credited for muffin's and Tora's heads)

[Creature]

If it was PT cop + 2-shot seer, then yes, that'd be strong.

Still, PT cop is pretty tweaked and neighborhood screws things up.