Transformers Mafia - Dinobots STRONGEST!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

THIS GAME STARTED WHAT THE FUCK

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I DIDN'T SEE A

35 FUCKNIN PAGES

YOU FUCKERS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I just finally came back after seeing that the game was open last night.

It's not gotten better, sure, but how did it get WORSE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

NEITHER IS A SCUM VOTE YOU FUCKING FUCKERS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

it's a 28 player game where literally every town player has the ability to fuck over the game at will

granted I didn't expect these people in particular to be the ones fucking it over but shit like this was bound to happen

do you have any reads LLD

literally just got here

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HELLO

HI

THIS IS PROFESSOR LLD

TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO PLAY A GAME.

THE GAME IS

"WHY IS VOTING NEITHER ANTI-TOWN?"

WELL IT'S SIMPLE.

DO YOU THINK, IN THIS GAMESTATE, SCUM DUELED THEIR OWN TEAM?

NO.

SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IF YOU VOTE NIETHER IS "AFTER I SAW 2 KILLS N1 AND ONE KILL DAY 1, AND WE HAVE 5 DEAD TOWNIES, I'M OK WITH ONE TOWNIE DYING"

INSTEAD OF

I DON'T KNOW

READING EITHER ONE.

AND IF THEY'RE BOTH TOWN, PICK SOMEONE BASED ON FUCKING USEFULNESS.

KILLING THEM BOTH IS BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD.

ALSO, 2 KILLS LAST NIGHT, SO LET'S EVEN ASSUME BEST CASE SCENARIO.

SCUM/SERIAL KILLER DUELED OTHER POTENTIAL SCUM TEAM/SERIAL KILLER.

ODDS OF THAT VERY LOW SINCE SCUM PROBABLY WON'T BE CASUALLY DUELING, AND IF THEY ARE AS A GAMBIT IT WON'T BE ON SCUM MOST OF THE TIME.

SO ENOUHG LAZY VOTING PICK ONE.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

hi LLD how are you?

I'M HAVING AWONDERFUL DAY HOW ABOUT YOU

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD you could probably work on your public speaking skills but the logic is good there.

i already voted for Antihero to win, Porkens should not be left alive after this and he's actually likely to be scum, two possibilities are that he's dumb and thought it would be an easy duel win, or he's offering himself up so the rest of his team can get rid of Ircher.

PUBLIC SPEAKING SKILLS?

CAN YOU SHOVE YOUR HIGH CLASS SUPERIOR HOLIER THAN THOU ORATION UP YOUR ASS TYVM

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD you could probably work on your public speaking skills but the logic is good there.

i already voted for Antihero to win, Porkens should not be left alive after this and he's actually likely to be scum, two possibilities are that he's dumb and thought it would be an easy duel win, or he's offering himself up so the rest of his team can get rid of Ircher.

PUBLIC SPEAKING SKILLS?

CAN YOU SHOVE YOUR HIGH CLASS SUPERIOR HOLIER THAN THOU ORATION UP YOUR ASS TYVM

Thou art a Bellend, sir Seal!

Thy breath has the stench of manure, and thy mind is as a porcelain vase!

Fragile and Empty!

ho ho ho ho ho yes, quite.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD please turn caps lock off.

CAPS LOCK?

I ONLY USE THE SHIFT KEY, SIR

[Lady Lambdadelta]

See the annoying part is I think porkens is way more likely town than AH, and [redacted] but Porkens is annoying and letting him get what he wants is annoying, so an Antihero full claim seems best, not a Porkens one

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UnrealSeal you think scum would risk dueling after how well that went for Firebringer yesterday?

my theory is that Porkens is more sacrificing himself so Ircher can't use his ability today and his team will try to get at Ircher during the night

there's also the possibility Porkens is dumb!scum.

There's really just no town motivation behind his duel.

Idk, I'll wait for Anti to post before I judge more but for rn I'm voting to save him.

Yes yes, hear hear, quite! Well spoken, very proper, very convincing.

To say nothing, yet appear

prim and proper

, it is a gift!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

did I mention Seal is probably scum, beyond me being annoyed with him

[Lady Lambdadelta]

There are very smart people in this thread

I get better as the game goes on, I'll try to turn down the annoyance

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/d ... ill_07.mp3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@UnrealSeal I don't see why you're not really considering the possibility that they are dumb!town?

I'd also think that Ircher would have one of Porkens' scum buddies in mind to duel if Porkens were to sacrifice himself in order to prevent Ircher's ability from activating. Who do you think that would be?

I feel like you're reaching to paint Porkens' move in a scummy light and ignoring the easier conclusion to draw: that they are town, weren't really paying attention, and just wanted to use the role that they've been hinting at

I have considered that possibility which is why I originally voted Neither.

But combined with Porkens refusing to role claim, I think the possibility he's scum is also really good.

in my mind both players are scummy but I know that they can't both be scum (unless theres a Traitor or it's scum v. sk which I doubt) so I'm really weighing up who I has the higher chance to flip scum and that's Porkens

but the real answer is I refuse to live in a reality where any one town player is this stupid

WHAT

SOMEONE READ THIS AND TELL ME IF THIS MAKES ZERO SENSE LIKE I THOUGHT

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hey Gamma Emerald town is down 5 within the first cycle

How many opportunities do you think we have to "set an example"?

Explain to me why you want Antihero to live over Porkens please

YO MY BOY SPIFFEH WITH THE HARD TRUTHS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OK SORT OF CLAIMING:

I need scrap. I'm fairly confident that I need scrap more than anyone else in the game, although I may have competition from <redacted>.

Me getting scrap sooner rather than later is important, especially with the apparent number of deaths per night.

Antihero may be some of all y'all's friend, but there is no town value there. And, yes, there are scumtells from Antihero too.

long and short: VOTE PORKENS

Third party.

Not a full claim, afraid, yeah, kill this.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Antihero

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD why can't it be a town role?

3 things

1) The incentive we were giving him about being town for dueling is removed if he's a third party who needs the scrap to be able to survive long term.
2) His half claim is not town. You know who else really likes scrap? Just about anyone in the game. Remember in literally every game I've ever been scum in and I do somehting like "here's my claim it's this reasonable power that makes sense and gets people to back off"
3) it's not that it can't be town, it's that I find it very hard to believe, given game state.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If people are going to keep voting in favor of killing the obvious town player I'm probably just gonna stop posting and pray that I get night killed

It would be one thing if Porkens did this and Anti was contributing in a way I expect town!him to be contributing, but Anti has done next to nothing and Porkens has basically claimed a power role and again, would DEFINITELY not have dueled in this manner as scum.

Spiffeh, aside from the audacity of the duel, why do you think Porkens is town here?

(Unless someone gives a good answer to this, I think voting Neither is the way to go because tbqh, I don’t townread Antihero, but I don’t townread Porkens either and think the fact that he fueled to be a bit too WIFOM-y for my tastes.)
VOTE: neither

NO.

FUCK NO.

HOW MANY TIMES

[Lady Lambdadelta]

yes

I have stated my preference
voted neither
and explained why I voted neither

find a better slot to shade buddy

unironically voting neither after I explained why we don't.

We kill this guy tomorrow.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gamma is scum

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gamma is scum

I really don't think so.

I promise you 100% this is Gamma scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gamma is scum

I really don't think so.

I promise you 100% this is Gamma scum.

Is this promise based on meta?

It's a promise based on having just played a game with him as town and me as scum, and getting very used to his town tactics, posting style and having to really fucking absorb it in order to play around it for days at a fucking time because I couldn't shoot him for a long while.

And it's different and wrong and motivationally weird and both my gut and my head say scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Gamma is scum

I really don't think so.

I promise you 100% this is Gamma scum.

Do you really think that me thinking you could be scum here after you rolled through Product Placement mafia the way you did is impossible?

I think you could make the posts above as either alignment. I accept people will be paranoid about me. Here's the kicker.

You're on the verge of killing Antihero.

Who exactly are you trying to convince with your posts?

To whom you are writing them, and the motivations for doing so feel performative and false, as opposed to true paranoia.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You fall on the wishy washy side of reading me too, like you're scared to poke me too hard.

Which is not a good sign for town you because I know you ain't afraid to poke me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

plus you were a big Neither supporter.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So honestly, my argument is more nuanced than you're attempting to paint it as, and I have more than one good reason, and my reasons have more depth.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD- a game with a 3 week long day 1 and actual lynches is very different from this clusterfuck

it'd prob be closer but I can't really push people to vote for who I think is scum b/c they're not being dueled right now and I'm not confident in Antihero being scum. He's probably a better lynch than Porkens but it feels more like a random lynch with an okay chance of hitting scum.

and you realize that this is real life day...3? of the game? If you look at Product Placement mafia my reads were pretty garbage until like the 2 week mark when you replaced in.

You have 6 whole deaths to draw associative tells from and people voting left right and center and talking about their reads.

Just because the game is accelerated does not give you an excuse.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Is this promise based on meta?

It's a promise based on having just played a game with him as town and me as scum, and getting very used to his town tactics, posting style and having to really fucking absorb it in order to play around it for days at a fucking time because I couldn't shoot him for a long while.

And it's different and wrong and motivationally weird and both my gut and my head say scum.

aka meta

Your other posts read as working backwards from the conclusion. /shrug

Boy, you are really hard defending Gamma huh?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

YOU DIDN'T CALL ME SCUM YOU DIRTY LIAR.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

YOU SAT ON ME ALL WISHY WASHY

AND WHEN I DIDN'T IGNORE YOU NOW YOU'RE PUSHING ABIT HARDER BECAUSE YOU KNOW I SMELL BLOOD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD - what are your reads

Gamma scum UnrealSeal Scum

AH town?

Porkens I dunno, seems third party ish. Certainly not helping town.

Spiffeh Town

The Hydra with the R name whose duels don't end the day is Town

uh... what else off the top of my head

oh yeah Maria probably town

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OH THE WORST IS SCUM TOO

almost forgot

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think I want LLD to duel a lurker tomorrow and for them both to die

sky getting an ability would be cool too though

we'll figure it out soon. ish. If we can have like a real day where we try to make scum duel each other and let all of vecna/vax/dram have opinions instead of people jumping into nooses it'd be pretty good

or you could let me win and get energon to activate myself, since we're in desperate need of me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

but oh look Antihero was town.

I'd happily duel The Worst and let him die.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

do we want me to hammer or what

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if you want any chance of surviving through tomorrow LLD maybe start with giving some more reads instead of really fucking bad appeals of how your magical power role can save us

not really

I'd rather wait for more people to get here at this point

I've already given reads, but you know what? I'm tired of you.

Shoot me instead and when I flip town, next time we play a game I'm gonna spam this post at you whenever you call me scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm sitting in a dentist chair phone posting while I have a temporary crown made. I think it's hilarious that Porkens and LLD both feel theyve needed to point out that their need for scrap and energon ouweighs everyone else's need for it.

well given we're seeing

3 to 4 deaths a fucking round from kills

, I would like to get energon!

Also, anyone notice Porkens isn't _dead_

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hi I’m several pages/maybe even a whole cycle behind but there needs to actually some level of hangtume between Day start and duel initiation or we’re going to keep lynching townies

today's probably going to be one too

if only we had some way of knowing that town would continually jump the gun with this stupid bullshit given this game mechanic

some prior game where we could learn from our mistakes

if you want any chance of surviving through tomorrow LLD maybe start with giving some more reads instead of really fucking bad appeals of how your magical power role can save us

not really

I'd rather wait for more people to get here at this point

I've already given reads, but you know what? I'm tired of you.

Shoot me instead and when I flip town, next time we play a game I'm gonna spam this post at you whenever you call me scum.

I legit don't know what I've done for you to bitch about except point out that this feels a lot like your scum game to me to people, and we're playing a game of mafia

and let's not pretend like I have a decent shot of living through tonight now please

I dunno, given it's multiball I'd let you live given you're significantly likely to shoot either town or enemy scum, if I was scum.

And given we have death on death with a side of death at night, and it's not stopping, leaving you alive to shoot your gun willy nilly seems PrettyGoodMan

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The thing is, Gamma, I'm playing completely differently than PP Mafia, mostly because I'm town but you're doing this thing where you can't lose to LLD again!1!!!!!11!!! and as a result you're seeing fucking ghosts where I'm literally town.

And it's frustrating, because if you're gonna do this every game I'd rather you shoot me now, see my townflip and shut the fuck up with your paranoia for the rest of time.

Because you can't read me.

For shit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The way Brian posted his duel and said "later," he is probably frustrated town and borderline throwing... Or he's already fulfilled his wincon and doesn't give a shit anymore.

Duh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

to be fair to Porkens he was up until like 3-4am my time last night, I dunno what time zone he's in though

but yeah wait for Porkens to get in and he can hammer

my best advice for tomorrow is to have LLD duel a lurker (I'd specifically prefer Dram as my first choice and Prof as my second right now, but a lot could change if they actually have a few days to post) and kill 'em both. I don't believe LLD gets this far up her own ass with how likely I am to shoot town when I've already shot at 66% (maybe 50/50 if you think Princess was a traitor or survivor or something but there are a lot of fucking kills for that)

LLD you're the one who went on this stupid gamma's 100% scum tirade to begin with
Own up to your shit and if you're town do your best to find scum and communicate it to other people without going ALL CAPS AtE in what might be the first relatively normal day all game

I'm talking odds you fucking goon.

And you literally fencesat on me like "maybe LLD is scum maybe she isn't" and when I called you on that bullshit, THEN you started pushing me.

Which is funny because when I was actually fucking scum I deliberately called you town for an entire game, and you ended up never lynching me because you were so uncertain hmmm I wonder why that happened

[Lady Lambdadelta]

UnrealSeal, the Worst, Dramonic are all people who need death.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Porkens can use death. Spiffeh remains town.

Like literally I called 3 people town yesterday and they all flopped up dead so.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh no I’m next

Would not be surprised.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD - what are your reads

Gamma scum UnrealSeal Scum

AH town?

Porkens I dunno, seems third party ish. Certainly not helping town.

Spiffeh Town

The Hydra with the R name whose duels don't end the day is Town

uh... what else off the top of my head

oh yeah

Maria probably town

Literally.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

god why the fuck did we lynch AH over fucking PORKENS

Spiffeh why

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Is.... Is Neither a player in this game?

I thought it was.... I....

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD I've been legitimately trying to be less of a dick to you than I was in that game and it's felt the entire time that me scumreading you has been the emotional equivalent to you of me lighting your fucking house on fire and I'd like to play a game with you where we can talk to each other like human beings instead.

Please don't overdramatize how right you were or how terrible everyone is for voting Porkens over Antihero when Porkens hasn't flipped yet and frankly I still think he's town and that this game was bound to be tons of town vs town duels just like Dynasty Warriors mafia was.

I'm peacing out 'til later tonight, so if I'm dead when I come back good luck and good game

You've literally played like a fucking terrorist. I came into the game a day late because I missed my "day start" PM. Then people were voting Neither which is stupid and I maintain that and you were ONE OF LOUDEST PEOPLE DOING IT.

Then, barely invested in the game and here you come reminding me of last game. You say you're trying to be less of a dick but you're literally doing the same shit you did last game. You fence sit on my face and make it impossible for me to play. And as scum, that's fine, I've got outs to direct and confuse the town, I don't need to have town cred to lynch what I want lynched.

But as town, it's infuriating. Not only are you reminding me of how you dealt with me last game, and how it's similar to this one, but you're also choking me out of playing this fucking game.

I gave solid real reasons why I thought you were scum, you ignored me. You jsut fucking hitoshruged and decided I needed to die instead.

and now you're asking me to die. Making the grand total of things I got to do this game: Give reads you and everyone seems to ignore and try to stop people from mass killing townies like idiots.

You yourself literally said just now "most duels will be TvT, like Dynasty Warriors"

so praytell, why the fuck are you voting Neither. Ever.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wanna see how it feels? here

you're a scummy person who has done scummy things and sure you shot scum but what does that even mean in this game. I would shoot a useless scumbuddy for cred.

If you're still alive tomorrow, shoot then duel someone and die. Thanks.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Uh thought there was no hydra

I was talking about Fundemental Theorem. Were they not a hydra?

Also.... I could not remember their name and was too lazy to look

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD the fact you're focusing on mechanics and just randomly declare reads with no substance to them is gross lmao

as I said I'll gladly duel you if ppl agree to nuke us both

Just because I don't give all my reasons all the time doesn't mean I have no substance to my reads.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But sure I'll duel you tomorrow and then we can kill you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

whatever

Vote:Gammagoeey

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OH LOOK GAMMA ISN'T DEAD WHAT A SURPRISE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

IT'S ALMOST LIKE

I PREDICTED THIS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The worst being killed confuses the fuck out of me though

[Lady Lambdadelta]

so maybe

just maybe

we can all take a deep fuckin' breath

and relax for a minute. maybe even an hour or two.

wouldn't that be nice.

and then, if you think someone's scum, you can make a case on them with some details in it, and we can listen to it, and in maybe 48 hours or so, someone can start a duel then.

do you think we can manage it you guys.

Hey, wanna die with me today?

I know I said Neither is bad but

you taking any more breaths in this game feels bad.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i'm not dueling you right now. i'm not shooting you right now. I know there was a role in the last fucking Dynasty Warriors mafia that redirected shit like that.

so for now I'm just going to vote you. If you'd like to make a case on why I'm scum even though I've shot a dinobot and an autobot, go for it.
VOTE: Lady Lambadelta

Hey Gamma

Explain why you're alive.

You disagreed with me yesterday right? Told me my logic was stupid and bad?

We're in multiball, I can't just control the kill if I'm scum.

Why are you alive?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GO ON

Use the word Paranoia.

Use the word Wifom.

DO IT I DARE YOU.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also I'm a fucking bodyguard btw, Gamma.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

WE HAVE 7 (SEVEN, SET, SIEBEN, SETTE, QI, SEPT - I DONT KNOW HOW TO SAY IT ANY MORE WAYS) DAYS TO TALK AND BE TOWN STOP DUELING STOP DUELING STOP. FUCKING. DUELLLINGGGGGGGG

Do you see me dueling?

No.

So get the fuck off me.