Fallout Mafia - Commonwealth Edition (Day 8)
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Is this something people do? I thought the general consensus was that if there is a vig, miller claims should be shot. A solo miller claim is a bad day 1 lynch.
This joke is never funny.
Is your goal to just be annoying?In post 45, Ramcius wrote:
VOTE: MariaRIn post 44, MariaR wrote:
Eh I just want to get out of RVS I'm hyped about this game and the talk of miller play that comes down to throwing opinions around isn't really my style. We'll get a serious vote and time I guess I just won't be the one to do it...maybeIn post 41, Alchemist21 wrote:
Nah the trick is to withhold your vote until that person makes even a mildly substantial post, then throw it down and say Serious Vote. It's a known trick but still works. The catch is that you're more likely to get reactions from other people who want to know why rather than the actual target.In post 38, MariaR wrote:I was just looking to see if you'd act sketchy/squeamish about it...although perhaps I should've said srs vote after a few more posts cause maybe it was obv I was trying to get a reaction. Reeeee
Pedit: I trust everyone until you give me a reason not too
i like RVS, so you just became my enemy
We don't even know that you both got the same flavor.In post 94, wilky wrote:In post 88, Ouroboros wrote:No I actually explicitly don't think that safe claims were given since giffles didn't last game: I think that your role is actually miller but you're scum and that the role PM is something memey about you being a miller despite being scum.
That's also such, such, such a scummy reaction.
WE'RE LYNCHING BUGS BUNNY BOYS EASY GAME.
Actually the PM isn't memey at all just the miller part has its own flavour (and is not explicitly called miller in the ability parts) to fit in with the flavour of the game.
VOTE: Wilky
Yeah, I'm feeling this one over dave if we are lynching in millers.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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My theory is that TChill is not lying about his role, but is lying about the alignment.
I think we have either a Vig or an SK somewhere in here, and the mafia has a hider, specifically, TChill.
Wilky is probably a scum partner.
By extension, Ourobouros is town.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I'll go back to Wilky for now. I don't understand how TChill's claim is likely, so if you could expand on your reasons it would be nice.In post 161, Ouroboros wrote:I also have reasons that I can't share for thinking Tchills claim is a lot likelier than people think: that said I don't think the Tchill wagon is really gaining momentum as much as scum are all voting there to distract from caught scum Wilky.
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So, are you hard claiming scum? You already seemed pretty scummy, so...
VOTE: RamicusIn this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Who's catchup?In post 204, hebichan wrote:VOTE: Ramicus
After the catchup, yes.
Though tbh last game I played with ram he gladiated town.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I'd like it if you could expand on your dave/wilky viewpoint.In post 229, Nero Cain wrote:Well, I mean I felt like Dave was scummier than Wilky here and I haven't really changed my mind so....what else do you feel like I should be doing?In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Well, I think I know what's coming up, so, in anticipation of the Innocent Child reveal that I'm sure you are talking about.In post 323, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Oh GIF's not around, now that comment ended up being kinda anti climatic.
I guess I'll have to prove my townyness later.
UNVOTE:In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I was going back because I forgot the name of the scummy guy I was voting before. I have no name and no memory for names.In post 327, Ouroboros wrote:Ok my partner wants to pressure verylazy but don't all derail Ramcius please he's still scum and the more people who stay on him the less I gotta burn my mental energy to kill him.
VOTE: RamciusIn this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Why Ventriloquist?In post 347, Ouroboros wrote:VOTE: Ventriloquist
Actually can I get team support here this intrigues me
He's barely a blip on my mental RADAR right now.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I stand corrected, then, and respectfully disagree.In post 351, Dunnstral wrote:
I think they're all townIn post 349, ManWithNoName wrote:I don't think anyone has expressed that all of {TChill, Davesaz, and Wilky} are town.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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That makes alot of sense, actually.
I'm not ready to move my vote just yet, though.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Wraith
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Ventriloquist
REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
So, by the way, here is my issue with Ventriloquist vote right now. These slots all fall into the same "barely a blip on the RADAR" place.
I would like to see anything resembling actually playing the game from all these slots. Maybe Dunnstral does not belong on here.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Your posts do nothing to move the game state forward.In post 367, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:
very well. you got me. i'm not playing the game.In post 366, ManWithNoName wrote:Wraith
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REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE
So, by the way, here is my issue with Ventriloquist vote right now. These slots all fall into the same "barely a blip on the RADAR" place.
I would like to see anything resembling actually playing the game from all these slots. Maybe Dunnstral does not belong on here.
sit down. have a beer. chat with me. partner it's time to ride those horses and shoot some scumbags' matey!
I'm almost inclined to say you would be a jester with how blatant you are being.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I'll give you that one.In post 371, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:at least i'm funny unlike ramcius :^)In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I got tired of following a town read rather than pursuing my own reads, especially when the Ventriloquist read came down to "He's inactive".
Just because you're obvtown, doesn't mean you are always right, RC. You should have learned that by now.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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When I said he's barely a blip on my radar, you said responded with. "That's the problem."
That's when I stopped sheeping you.
If you thought I meant something different, I was saying it was an inactive slot.
I might not have been clear before that, I now realize.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I agree Ventriloquist needs to start posting, that being said, I think Realmen's posting has been to the point where he is just avoiding posting anything that can be AI. The last time I voted off of someone that was doing that, I got burned, that's why I am pushing Realmen.
Ventriloquist has enough votes without me to pressure him into voting, anyway.
Like, fuck, this is a large anyway, if I were scum with Ventriloquist, why wouldn't I vote him for the town cred anyway?In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I can understand the reaction to my posting, by the way. I'm just going to have to be better going forward.
I still think Realmen is the best vote at this point in time. Ventriloquist can be on notice, but Realmen has actually been scummy (I will admit again, amusing) but scummy, overall.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I do believe that is the best way to phrase it. He reads in a way that he's not trying to game solve, he's just trying to not give away any information. That's enough to earn a scum read from me.In post 482, Ouroboros wrote:@ManWithNoName- Are you scum reading Jungle for his lack of AI posts?
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Here's a post that, going back, strikes me as scummy actually because of context in general. Verylazy has not offered a read on either wilky or tchill, just a desire to "resolve" tchill and a willingness to join a wagon later. I find it odd that a tchill case is not accompanied with this. I've seen scum, in the past, push a lynch without sorting anyone and line up the ability to switch lynches. I want to give a brief nod to Anonymous Ghost, hopefully without spewing too much what my main is, and say that when rereading just now, her comments in a previous game's mod thread were what sparked this idea.In post 166, verylazy wrote:i could hop on wilky wagon but i want to resolve tchill first
VOTE: VeryLazy
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go back to lurking so I don't totally give away my main's identity because that's the whole point of this alt.
Anony, if you remember the game and figure it out from that, please don't tell people, I just want to continue in semi-anonymity.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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You first voted him yesterday. Hell, two days ago he wasn't in your reads list.In post 523, Ouroboros wrote:The fact that people are defending him says a lot
Impossibear comes in with 'scared of wagon speed' even though I've been hard pushing them for days and have gotten absolutely zero results from anyone.
Also the fact that the way that Jingle talked about me as coming across as town with no skill is always a scumpost.
Your definition of days is weird.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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No.In post 539, Ouroboros wrote:
GhostIn post 502, Ouroboros wrote:@ManWithNoName
Do you still hold your stance that Jungle isn't trying to game solve, despite the vote on Impossibear?
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Lynch pool
Ventriloquist is not my top choice, but I could see him as scum. I'm pretty much just giving up on my stand to try and be assertive by voting him.
Verylazy, as explained earlier, I see scum motivation in posts where this slot is not sorting but looking to lynch TChill and Wilky.
Nero is a gut scumread, and I'd still lynch there.
Ramcius is also an outlier right now and I feel like I had a reason to scumlean on him, but I need to go back tonight and reread to see what was there thaat I would want to lynch.
After thought, I am still not a fan of trying to sort out miller claims here, and if Ourobouros is town reading Tchill, I'm not going to be enough of a force to really push that. So, that's why I switched off of them.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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That's the majority of it. I find his claim still extremely suspicious, and his play, or lack thereof, does nothing to alleviate it.In post 562, Ouroboros wrote:@ManWithNoName- Can't remember if you said anything about this.
Does TChill13 hard claiming as a Hider affect your read on him? Albeit a very unusual hider who can't die if he targets scum.
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Crazy kids trying to dance and listen to rock music.In post 582, REALMEN ONLY JUNGLE wrote:this is not what i signed up for. i signed up for fun and to meme and chocolates and pizza and to MANwagon easyscumIn this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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And assholes to boot.In post 623, MariaR wrote:
there obv town yes just being massive hypocritesIn post 621, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I think ETL is town.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Almost as if people can independently form reads that happen to line up with what another slot sees.
I think verylazy is the best lynch today, still. But, I'm not going to go against a lynch of someone being scummy that an obvtown person is really pushing for. I've been accused of not working well with townreads in the past, and I am trying to work on that. I'm not going to fight a lynch on a probscum just because I'm reading someone as more scummy. We have to lynch them all at some point anyway.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I have not stopped sorting using the general posting of people.
For instance, I am going to keep an eye on Maria's votes throughout the game because of what she is posting. She is on my list of never lynch until after some flips, though.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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He's pursuing and forming some reads, even if he's not providing reasoning.
And, even so, I was thinking about it and what's the scum motivation for him to keep his meme posting up? As far as I can tell, there is none. So, I'm calling the meme style NAI, as I can see it coming from either town or scum, especially since now I am reminded of someone else who I thought a weird posting style in a certain character was scum indicative, and ended up being wrong.
It was good I did not get my way in that lynch, and could be good that I didn't get my way in this read. He's null at worst for me.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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So, your entire scum read of me is because I haven't provided enough information for you? What would you like to know?In post 737, Ventriloquist wrote:
You're literally like a broken record - how rudimentary is this logic? Impossibear doesn't agree with you so Impossibear must be scum? In what world would a mafia aligned player defend another mafia aligned player so damn hard, knowing that they would both go down together?In post 521, Ouroboros wrote:Okay so I'm locking in here
Ventriloquist is lockscum
Impossibear is lockscum
MWNN is probably scum
VOTE: Ventriloquist
MWNN has not given substantial reasons for any of his votes, he has simply changed it several times and given some vague reasoning which never really materialises - once more he always changes his vote back to whatever Ouroboros is going with, despite voting elsewhere briefly (to create the illusion of actually having his own voice) - Given the way in which MWNN and REALMEN instantly rallied around you, it wouldn't surprise me if you're all scum together. Ouroboros 'probably' reading MWNN makes perfect sense here, making it seem like MWNN is on his radar as a bad guy (thus distancing himself) yet never putting him at the top, therefore not having to consider lynching him.
Taking the saying of the best defense is a good offense to a whole new level.
Maybe if you engaged in discussion rather than deciding you have found three of the scum already based on interactions, you could improve your reads.
Also, what do you do when I flip town? Say that it just proves your read of Ourobouros not wanting to lynch me because Ouro is scum and fake scum leaning me?
Associatives like this are pretty bullshit reasons to base reads on before flips.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Going by timestamps, this is pretty believable. All those posts were made between 3:23 to 3:25 EST.In post 753, Ouroboros wrote:Also final and pretty damning point against Ventriloquist: why did he wait so long and post all of his major points at once?
Answer: because he posted simplified versions in scum thread and waited for his teammates to be able to review them and improve them.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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If one post is scummy, it's scummy. I mean, I base my reads on what is here. If someone is not posting much, I base it on what they have posted.
I did not like the posts from Vent earlier today, so if my vote wasn't there they would be now.
The way I read it, he's saying the Ouroboros, Realmen and I are a scum team because we voted together. I'm the only one he even bothered to do a half-assed case on.
If it takes me getting lynched for people to actually lynch Ventriloquist and verylazy, so be it. I don't have an ego too big to take a mislynch day 1.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I'm going to just come clean on why I was fighting Ouroboros before. I played a game with RC on my main and just don't like interacting with him because his play style clashes so much with mine.
It was personal, petty and stupid. And I am nothing if not petty and stupid.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I'm just coming clean, like I personally don't like RC's playstyle, but then I realized I also shouldn't let that get in the way of playing to my wincon.
Like, I really don't give a shit if you guys lynch me because I know town outnumbers scum and I know my reads will probably be respected more when you see me flip town. There's no emotional appeal here.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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I don't want you to feel bad for me, you doofus. I want you to hold me accountable.In post 797, wilky wrote:I think I am. You're coming in telling everyone that you were being petty and stupid hoping that we just feel bad that you let your emotions take over and cut you some slack for your earlier play.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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Taking a break from my illness today to comment, I think Nero does not deserve to be in the lynchpool tomorrow, he got townier since I made my lynchpool.
If I'm still around tomorrow and do not get vigged, I'll probably votepark verylazy slot unless the replacement comes in and wows me.
I'm like 100% not the Scum kill, I would assume.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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When did this game end? I'm still alive by the way, just had to crawl through the desert a bit. The go through the civil war. I feel like there was a bridge explosion.
Then the standoff, it was epic. Three people, and, spoilers, I won.In this world, there's two types of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.-
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