A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

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Hello everyone, I hope we can have a fun game together!!!

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I'm happy enough treating mastina as conftown at least for now unless someone can explain how that has utility as a scum role or fakeclaim outside of being townread for it and never using it

I kinda wanna say this post comes from scum who is aware Mastina is town and is trying to come up with reasons to justify reads rather then a town who is actually trying to sort Mastina. When I think of the types of games JJH tends to play I have a hard time seeing him not see the possibility of a scum gladiator even if he doesn't see the utility behind it directly.

It's just a really direct thought I guess rather then one of someone who is trying to critically think of player's alignments and why they could be wrong when they come up with conclusions I guess is what I am trying to say.

VOTE: JJH



I-I-I am sorry if I am jumping the gun with my opening push.

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FA we haven't said hi yet!

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You have misunderstood.

The role is not town simply because it is a gladiator. It is town because there is no scum benefit whatsoever out of the mechanical applications of it. There's an argument that it can't even expect to be townread because I am evidently abnormal in thinking that this claim has a very high probability of being town.

I kinda just don't like how you took it at face value which is kinda the wolfy thing to do when approaching posts.
Like the role could have more depth, a JOAT ability, positive utility gained after using the gladiate or something I just can't think of off the top of my head. I think in the last game most of the scum were JOATs and it's not like I am expecting you to actually know that.
It's more that my expectation was to not take the claim at literal face value like the way you did.

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I don't know which head I'm talking to but hi o/

and jjh there might be mechanical reasons that makes that claim useful for scum and for town

~Sora

Beeboy so far

idk I don't see JJH as the kind of player to not be aware of the 2nd sentence.

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I think my posts will be easy to read.
They will contain giant maid gifs. Or will be expanding on posts that involve giant maid gifs.
T__T I am lazy

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O-oh dear it seems my colleague has already shown up ahhh please forgive me for being late! I shall start paying attention and giving my best service possible.

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If Mastina is loyal and scum, she would only be able to target other scum. Therefore the role would be set up to 1 for 1 trade with town only if she wins the debate that is a gladiate. In this circumstance, it is strictly worse than a normal gladiate. If she were to target scum, her best case scenario is a no lynch, assuming that is possible, which confirms neither her nor her target as town but allows for her to play as though she has absolute proof that the other player is town--- which falls apart instantly if either of them die as the other becomes confscum.

Thus, if it is indeed as described, it would be completely useless to scum.

It is possible that this is just one ability as part of a JoaT, and with my lack of resources to determine the power-density of this game it is impossible to say more. Working with what there is, however, and believing the claim as it is (as this is the simplest option), makes it town by virtue of it A. the total lack of use to scum, B. the potential use to town at the detriment of the self, and C. the fact that people who aren't me do not consider the role to be strongly indicative of town, making it an unlikely choice for a curveball "you thought it was town but it was

me, dio

scum" role, which I think also contributes to the probability that this is not a JoaT role.

P-pardon me but c-can't the role have added power to it if she lynches a teammate o-or it's just worded like that so she looks good on a role cop? F-for all we know I think the claim is n-nai and it's not like scum mastina w-wouldn't claim it. I-I do think you believe this argument though! You could work in our cafe i-if you wanted that is...

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If Mastina is loyal and scum, she would only be able to target other scum. Therefore the role would be set up to 1 for 1 trade with town only if she wins the debate that is a gladiate. In this circumstance, it is strictly worse than a normal gladiate. If she were to target scum, her best case scenario is a no lynch, assuming that is possible, which confirms neither her nor her target as town but allows for her to play as though she has absolute proof that the other player is town--- which falls apart instantly if either of them die as the other becomes confscum.

Thus, if it is indeed as described, it would be completely useless to scum.

It is possible that this is just one ability as part of a JoaT, and with my lack of resources to determine the power-density of this game it is impossible to say more. Working with what there is, however, and believing the claim as it is (as this is the simplest option), makes it town by virtue of it A. the total lack of use to scum, B. the potential use to town at the detriment of the self, and C. the fact that people who aren't me do not consider the role to be strongly indicative of town, making it an unlikely choice for a curveball "you thought it was town but it was

me, dio

scum" role, which I think also contributes to the probability that this is not a JoaT role.

P-pardon me but c-can't the role have added power to it if she lynches a teammate o-or it's just worded like that so she looks good on a role cop? F-for all we know I think the claim is n-nai and it's not like scum mastina w-wouldn't claim it. I-I do think you believe this argument though! You could work in our cafe i-if you wanted that is...

mfw I misclick 1 color over-I mean o-oh deary me whoopsie!
Pedit: I-it can be worded like that to j-just look nice on a rolecop along with having other parts of the role n-no? I don't see why she'd claim that as town in the first place! ...Well it is Mastina

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That only works if it's a role which specifically causes rolecops to not get the whole role PM

Unless she's lying about flavour too I don't see why Ginngie would get that lmao

I suppose we just disagree for now but I do not think it is wise to take a claim at face value.

Holy balls Maria why’d you have to go color-crazy?

IF YOU DARE QUESTION THE COLOR GODS AGAIN I WILL EAT YOUR SOUL FILTHY HUMAN

I-I mean what are you talking about? It's v-very pretty!

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Find a single instance of me lying about my role as scum.

BTW investigatives should stay off me; they'd be wasting their action.
I'm a D3 Innocent Child.
If you are wondering, no, not automatic; I have to manually trigger it.

Ayyyyyyyyyyy

Thanks IC, that was super helpful

VOTE: Mastina
This deserves proper credit where credit is due

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chick and jjh are the best votes right now

I-I agree with you on Chick h-her tone on why she's being scumread f-feels forced b-but jjh is a really strong townread of ours! May I be of service otherwise?

It's kinda annoying because I'm waiting on a few people to respond to me about things and now something I want to talk about pops up and Ginngie is just gonna be Ginngie

kinda want to sig this

and theres 80 posts plus, more than half is fluff and the rest deals heavily with mechanics

oh and there are cringy posts

Okay nos you better not be scum because this is like, the most endearing interaction I've ever had with you and I think when we've played I usually just lazily (and incorrectly) scumread you but I want you to be town rn

like really shitty acting like you dont know something

chick has been lackluster and mastina affirmed my vote as a good one, so I have more faith that it's a good vote.

Oh btw jjh voting me instantly once I scumread him also makes his slot look worse but okee

That was a quick change from not explaining to starting to explain.

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I just noiced we didn't V/LA we should be back in 1 or 2 days

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We're gonna lurk until d2 goodluck

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Mostly because my hydra partner is super busy and if you think I'm reading 40+ pages haha gl with that.

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Maria.

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Beeboy has work for the next 2 days and I don't think he'll want to spend the last 2 days reading all this so we'll prob reset or iso day 2.
I have a bit of freetime atm so weeeee

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You see I could fake it but then people would ask me questions and I would have to remember what I faked. That's like rly hard.
Pedit: Who are you voting

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I'm voting for you

oh baby

but im willing to let you lurk till day two if you can just give me a nugget

Well if it helps our ali should be really obv day 2 because we were the most obv town in the other game we played. So if we're not showing that d2 you lynch us. *Shrug*

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That sounds like you are planing to blow up night 1.

you got us

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Okay gonna go back to playing games now.
Cya D2

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LMFAO good meme

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VOTE: Chickadee

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Hey squad beeboy here. I haven't posted in this game in a long time.

I have tomorrow off work so I am going to power grind this game then, if I don't then lynch us.
I get off work late tonight so I can't really make any promises about tonight.

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ummm beeboy here.
I work tomorrow now because Money > Mafia.

But my day off shifted to Tuesday and I get off vaguely early tomorrow so I should be good Tuesday.
Ok shift the Lynch on sight day to Tuesday please and thank you.