Limbo l Victory!

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PREPARE TO DIE SCUMS

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You look nervous Mr. Jay~?

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New Deadline: (expired on 2018-11-17 18:38:36)

You're the best


Also I've read none of this just perused the flavour and was inspired whimsically by destiny (or was it density?) to throw myself into another fairly large game

who wants to help me get into the swing of things?

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Firstly gonna go see why my pred is voting the best player on the site

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A+ for the effort, regardless of alignement, ruby was indeed in my aim since i reread creature
VOTE: le gem

sweaty
UNVOTE:

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Firstly gonna go see why my pred is voting the best player on the site

are u trying to pocket me

Spoiler:

because it's working

yes

Spoiler:

irl

@tw who is ruby an alt of

she is an alt of Performer

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Firstly gonna go see why my pred is voting the best player on the site

Wipe off that brown on your nose, mate.

I tried but it's just smudging and now my whole face is brown!! x(

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anyone wanna talk to me about non alt hunting stuff or should I just start flicking through 58 pages while bored out of my mind and trying to burn teh scum

Up to you all

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Elsa always claims something. Maria does lots of cool things. How are you reading those two slots? + ruby and my pred while we're at it

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I love Chara and want to talk to it soon
Based on reactions to my rep in my brain was like "jfc are there like 30 wolves ITT rn" so I need some townreads

I guess reading rvs is probably prudent for that, lmk if there's particular stuff I should look out for

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i don't want to bias you on stuff and am semi-busy rn

i.e. you need me to produce more content for my slot or you're confused and genuinely want to my first impression reads?

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yeah cool, just checking if you had double motives there

rvs dive was highly unfruitful

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Eh I guess Nos, Purr, Chara and Maria all feel kinda towny

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Can you people stop talking about goo/vt claiming? At this point it's not gonna happen and the useless chatter around it only clogs the thread more. Why not we move this into more productive matters? Like voting the obv scum that already posted lol
VOTE: Joey

Yeah, that's the kind of vote a scum Maria makes
VOTE: MariaR

Unaligned, Dunn scum Maria town
you were all objectively right to wagon my slot

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Can you people stop talking about goo/vt claiming? At this point it's not gonna happen and the useless chatter around it only clogs the thread more. Why not we move this into more productive matters? Like voting the obv scum that already posted lol
VOTE: Joey

Why is he obvious scum? Also, I feel like VT shouldn't claim but goo should claim so our investigates don't die. ))

I should be getting pings from this. I'm actually gonna treat Koki as very very slightly town for the time being.

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Can you people stop talking about goo/vt claiming? At this point it's not gonna happen and the useless chatter around it only clogs the thread more. Why not we move this into more productive matters? Like voting the obv scum that already posted lol
VOTE: Joey

Why is he obvious scum? Also, I feel like VT shouldn't claim but goo should claim so our investigates don't die. ))

Scum love to talk about mechs all the time. He's been living it up most and I don't remember joey ever really caring about mech talk. He's doing it to seem helpful/productive when really it's not at all. The other posts that aren't talking about it are filler and calling my vote scummy/bad. What a great towny iso.

Realistically scum roughly never do this but I like Maria's eager tone/rhetoric around it. Forcing game out of rvs + vibes pure

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I was debating claiming this or not because I was interested to see how a game goes without it being claim but it's most likely to end badly. So I'm Ascetic might have more to it then that might have less.

What a convenient claim

UNVOTE:

Let's just reset

Bork bork

that was interesting.
and hello to you too, Kokichi.

don't remember Joey having anything specific against mechanics. in Civilization he was very heavily keeping track of claims and role interactions.
also it's been the topic so i don't see why the Joey focus specifically.

Towny

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also sry for rubyposting I'm walking to a pretty far away place on my lunch break. Poke me if you don't like anything I'm saying and I'll jam when I can

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Dunn backing off is note worthy but I'm not outting my read on him yet given if I do everyone's gonna sheep it. So I'll let others handle it for now.

I'm pretty sure Maria is town tbh, I was statting to mull over the idea that maybe the Dunn/Maria djo WOULD kick off with ridiculous scum theatre like that but she's actually just reading like town reads

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Can already tell my strategy will start mainly day 2.

For now Elsa will go into hiding. Become one with the shadows...

I'm pretty sure Elsa and Jay are the same alignment
Wtf come on man

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I've never seen dunn sr maria this fast when he was town.

VOTE: dunn

^ Scummy

:0 wow am I townreading Kokichi?

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{Maria, Chara}
{Purrcocet, Kokichi}
{Performer (c. Nos)}
{Elsa, A50, Lady, Ruby, Carca, Snowy, Alonzo}
{Dunn}


per catchup
brief real time interactions w performer have kinda prejudiced me liking Nos' opening posts

I should have a read on a50 and that concerns me; he gut reads happy to be here which is probably town indicative more often than not but also... Chara, so he kind of has to read that way.....

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this is a kinda weak start but this game started weak sry not sry
got a lot more work to do

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Can already tell my strategy will start mainly day 2.

For now Elsa will go into hiding. Become one with the shadows...

I'm pretty sure Elsa and Jay are the same alignment
Wtf come on man

That's a conspiracy theory if I've ever heard one. Next you'll say I'm related to JaydragonKing or something, and that dude flaked the site 6 months ago.

Weren't you and JDK caught robbing a bank together or something?

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^ Scummy

VOTE: Dunnstral

This is the most null I could possibly feel about a slot I scumread getting a vote on it

Manatee doesn't like playing scum and lurks like a pro: reminder to swing back to reading this slot

Every single time Creature has been mentioned to me it's because of his scum meta being so obvious it hurts.

VOTE: Creature

If we only got 24 hours, might as well go for the garunteed, amirite?

If I understand his current meta even slightly (which I'm a little bad at rn) this is probably the reason he replaced out

fyi, he's been vacationing irl and stuff so hasn't had much access. not sure why no v/la sash

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It feels like this thread is in a state of limbo...

Joey is my strongest town read. Setup spec is easy to do as scum, but the way he did it (interacting with everyone, bouncing ideas around) was pretty towny. His regular activity and his aggression against Maria also suggests town.

I don't like Maria's vote or her reasons for scum-reading Joey, but post 83 is gold. Also don't think her ascetic claim is scum motivated.

why would VT or Toxic Goo claim?

Considering we've already spent two pages discussing the topic at the time of this post this question didn't seem necessary, particularly the "Toxic Goo" part.

^ Scummy

VOTE: Dunnstral

Pops back in to drop essentially a naked vote on the leading wagon. Seems pretty opportunistic.

First impression of Dunn was that his "toxic goo and VT should claim" entrance would be pretty forward coming from scum. I thought his Maria vote was fine but his later "Maria's claim is convenient" post and later backtracking was less so. Still could see Dunn being town here, but both of Manetee's posts are drenched in scum.

VOTE: ManateeDude

drreeeennncchhhheeeddddd

Can we all take a moment to appreciate how wolfy this opening is

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I'm telling you as a guy who previously replaced into his slot he tapped out. It was a scum slot. Granted, I made everyone forget who was in that slot before me and pulled a hard AF victory, but still...

This is a little towny.

Snowman town irl for his Creature stuff on this page btw

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Creature has been prodded.

(expired on 2018-11-03 11:04:10)

We have 20 damn hours and I'm not feeling the Dunn and Mana wagons. So we get rid of the slot that'll fuck us later.

Oooh. That makes more sense then it should. I'll be quiet now as I fucking chastise myself for making such a simple mistake.

Lol<3 this is a pretty level 1 take but I think Elsa is town.

VOTE: Almost
sick, so sheeps ahoy. Almost's case is compelling.

VOTE: Creature
going back to bed. ha.

Cognativ disunans die scum die!!!

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{Maria, Chara}
{Purrcocet, Kokichi, Elsa}
{Performer (c. Nos), A50}
{Lady, Ruby, Carca, Alonzo}
{Snowy}
{Dunn}

staying woke on:
Absolutely50 : town or scum who jumped in by mimicking his town meta of sounding like he's overwhelmingly happy to be here then buddying Chara. Which would be an excellent imitation of town!Almost51 but also strikes me as within his scum range.

Alonzo/Manatee-slot : hates playing scum and had a good vote but kinda looks like scum so I'll go back there whatever

Carca : her vote on Chara was like really really bad but this looks like something I could see town!Carca walking into pretty easily



this feels.... slightly too easy bur only slightly....

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Snowman hard town btw

why what who how whatttt
Remind me to talk to you about this MariaRiaR

obviously me not replacing into this game until page 20 is a towntell????

um bc you replaced obvscum scum creature duh scum

I'll go iso dive him if you want me to read him with any kind of urgency but I think it's >rand town for you to replace creature categorically (though this is tremendously angleshooty so I'd rather keep you in null while I sip my ultra weak town flavoured cordial)

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it's ok I figured, first part of my response was a joke too

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UNVOTE:

I like the case on Creature but I don't want to vote him before he at least says something, since fluctuating activity isn't a great reason to me.

Maria/Joey feels town vs town to me right now, although it's day 1 so it's probably best not to take any of my reads seriously.

I want to scumread this but mostly because it feels bad but then if Lady was scum it wouldn't be bad so I think I'm going to ignore it for now

So I decided to start reading the last page and I already see this:

I like the case on Creature

and I say HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA

accurate af

also that was like my old scum meta of posting very little

nowadays I can post a decent ammount

accurate af

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Snowman's probtown

??? why

Carca is named town

huh

Elsa, Lady and to a lesser extent Dunn can be town

Agree waht and hard disagree

@Creature, why is Lady town? Also, what do your scumreads look like rn?

Creature categorically will not answer the second question, first is... ok

idk what is happening

apparently dunn doesn't either

both towny

@Creature, what do your scumreads look like rn?

feel like him reiterating this question is pretty wolfy
he sees creature townreading him expressly and working on reads and uh... yeah... I just think this is a really easy way to look like he gives a fuck about sorting Creature

his Lady question was better and even that sucked

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everyone who is not a wolf please explain your reads with a lot of fervour or unvote ruby asap

if you're smart we powerlynch Snowman, tho I think that's kinda controversial given I'm like 50 pages behind

I'm bad at meta reading 2018 Creature but this is a lot closer to ye olde cross out list PoE town creature who loltownreads everyone for no reason than "???" wolf creature

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i don't know why i said "someone i thought was town" when in my mind what i was saying was "chara"

I love Chara and want to talk to it soon
Based on reactions to my rep in my brain was like "jfc are there like 30 wolves ITT rn" so I need some townreads

I guess reading rvs is probably prudent for that, lmk if there's particular stuff I should look out for

this is how you pocket me.

<3
you pocket me by being so towny

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*IGNORES SNOWMAN'S DUMB QUESTION VIA VERY LOUDLY SAYING NOTHING*

ftfy

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I townread pokemon et white monkey

anyone who doesn't like these townreads isn't paying attention

Ok so you're basically trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Good talk Joey hf in your scum pt while I deal with others.

still sounds like town!Maria but I'm like.. more likely to be wrong on this than I felt earlier.....

Ok so you're basically trying to have your cake and eat it too.
Good talk Joey hf in your scum pt while I deal with others.

He seems like town

ya and I like this pop in

VOTE: A50

This reds

spicy!!!!!

VOTE: A50

This reds

No, It WHITE!

I think this response probably comes from scum!A50 like just slightly more often than it comes from town!A50 :'(

Maria might be scum

Things is, theres probably another reason to explain her foses and posts because fosing me the way she does serves nothing. As scum she doubt shed go for me right from the start instead of trying to pocket me (which would probably happens). Soo ??? we will see

this is also fairly interesting
I kinda think I agree given they seem to have history

VOTE: Creature
going back to bed. ha.

i'd never lynch him before he's posted.
i will, however, wagon the heck out of him.

Maria town i believe. i'll go back to it.

pedit: not actually compelling. Creature's meta is just incredibly easy. not opposed to wagoning him to see if he does post.

Also I don't like these 2 posts.

@Kokichi--why not?

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you do remind me of a good point, ducky.
i don't know if scum Almost antagonizes me on purpose. which, if he were scum, he would be doing with my slot with how he's treated it so far.
that's easier to see when i've distanced myself from my own emotional react to it from the other day.

I'm still only one seventh of the way thru this, have I got some surprises ahead?

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well, keep reading.
this has been kind of a negative game for me for the most part. just moreso than usual. and i'm pretty sure that's on me and no one else.
i have work in the morning or i'd stick around while you continue to catch up.

yeah get some rest.
hopefully neither of us dies tonight, we can reconvene d2.

@Kokichi--why not?

Chara voted him, then stated voting him before he even posts is bad. contradiction

it literally didn't tho

i'd never lynch him before he's posted.
i will, however, wagon the heck out of him.

though i agree that would be pretty bad, if it happened

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I have no idea how Maria's still scum-reading Joey.

I initially thought Dunn's Kokichi vote was a mistake but I'd have expected him to have corrected it by now in that case. Not sure why he'd call Almost's posts awkward yet vote Kokichi immediately after. Seems awkward in and of itself.

ok

still, don't think townreading plenty of players is that town indicative.

Basically my reaction to Creature's entrance. For being the highest poster I didn't get that strong of an impression from him.

i can't really describe why i don't like this one
but i don't like it
someone talk to me about if i'm just confbiasing snowman but he's making the hairs on the back of my neck stand up

@Joey tell me what you found towny from Almost. I couldn't find anything.

ok

@Chara, I thought Manatee's opening question was useless since people already voiced their opinions on why Toxic Good should claim. It seemed more likely to come from scum pretending to contribute than from town not paying attention to the thread or something. Thought the vote was pretty bad too. It wasn't that I assumed Dunn was town persay, it was more assuming Manatee was scum and that he generally wouldn't want to vote his own partner. Don't like to rely on pre-flip associations to construct my reads in general though.

roflcopter
VOTE: Snowman

Mostly waiting for Manatee to pop back into the thread.

ok
buddy
there are 13 slots for you to sort

Mostly waiting for Manatee to pop back into the thread.

Why are you voting him in the first place? Make a good case and I might join you.

towny

I have no idea how Maria's still scum-reading Joey.

I don't know why you're townreading him so hard. I don't think his reaction made him as obv town as you're trying to make him out to be. I'd put him on null myself but nothing he's said is out of his scum range given he's said stuff that is blatantly not true the real question is does he know that or not.

towny

@Maria, it's not just his reaction though. It's also his general engagement with the game and game-solving that screams town. I also can't really see why he'd want to consider the possibility of town!you even after all that. I've been reading through the you VS Joey debate as objectively as possible and honestly I find myself siding with him most of the time. Like, when you first explained your Joey scum-read you said that you don't remember him caring about mech-talk but when he corrected you, you pretty much dropped the point all-together. Then you tried to spin him saying "even if I was objectively scummy" into him admitting he was being objectively scummy when that's completely wrong on a purely grammatical sense, and when he corrected you on that you changed the subject all-together. I might be biased in town-reading since I never read his scum games before and don't know what his scum range looks like, but I think you might be biased from seeing him play scum and are being overly paranoid when Joey's ISO spews town overall.

looooool TMI
VOTE: Snowman

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in case i didn't subtly assert my lynch of preference,
VOTE: Snowman

The Duck is Town.

Ma I'm getting good at this game....

<3
sup alonzo
i like to think we're getting better at reading each other. pls be town.



p.s. VOTE: Snowman
i need to work more

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really

this is a good + imo towny response to Snowman's really really stupid questions

why

probably not super necessary? but still nice solvey mindset

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gonna go do more work irl now but i'll bbl, someone should hang out with me

also



i soberposted an obnoxious blinkie you had all better sheep me

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spicy takes.

{elsa, dunn, alonzo, snowman, A50} is the game winning wolf poe.

I probably don't hate this PoE too much as of where I'm at
couple of townreads I kinda need to work through a little more tho but I'll catch up then come annoy you

either way I'm lynching Snowman today and anyone who wants to win with me is joining me I'll compromise on Dunn

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{Kokichi, MariaR, Ruby Red, Almost50, Alonzo, Lady Angel, Performer, the worst}

is this the town? :0

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Dunn vote Snowman with me?

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gonna go do more work irl now but i'll bbl, someone should hang out with me

also



i soberposted an obnoxious blinkie you had all better sheep me

OBNOXIOUS BLINKIE PAGETOP

Pedit: aw fuck dunn

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Dunn vote Snowman with me?

I don't scumread Snowman and the way Ruby latched on to your scumread of snowman while they had no read at all there previously is very telling

Why do you townread Snowman and scumread Ruby? I'm sorry, I don't have a strong feeling about her reaction to approving of my distaste on Snowman yet so I'm gonna have to stall on talking about that

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you realise that's like a wall of maths spam about Creature's old meta right? I think there's a world where that case comes from town but his lines are blurring hard and also check sitewide activity

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also his entire contribution to this game was rocking up a couple of days late, townreading players a la cross out list town!Creature, being positioned as scum, posting stating that he was irritated and bored because of it and then being ignored by players

that is the literal number of posts he made. the dude can actually post as scum these days, which he himself acknowledged ITT.

Anything other than an activity read?

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yeah I just checked sitewide activity as well, I feel it's lower than it has been historically but basically I would have liked to see him here more as well

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you realise that's like a wall of maths spam about Creature's old meta right? I think there's a world where that case comes from town but his lines are blurring hard and also check sitewide activity

Anybody can say things

I don't see why I should believe what you're saying over literally dozens of games of experience that proves otherwise

re. the above
this is forum mafia
what the fuck else are you reading based on?

this feels like you've found a smoking gun on a lynch that isn't you so you're tunnelling it to duck eating the lynch.. agree/disagree?

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I feel it's lower than it has been historically

Is checking Creature's site-wide activity a regular activity for you?

Isn't that weird, if his activity in games doesn't matter anymore (your own words)

I mean yeah I've used his proportionate sitewide activity to inform and reinforce my reads before but no, I like to think I read him for his content and not exclusively based on angleshooting out of thread reads

:/

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Disagree because I could have just pushed performer

Noted. I'll keep this in mind.

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How are you actually reading Ruby tho?

I mean yeah I've used his proportionate sitewide activity to inform and reinforce my reads before

How long ago?

basically up until a couple of months ago maybe

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Based on what I know I can't support Ruby's wagon in good faith. Take it how you will

It's pretty much you or Snowman for me, if you think Ruby is hard scum and Snowman is hard town find me a better candidate? There should be another 2 or maybe 3 scum

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I believe in the power of the flashwagon!!!! Let's nail Snowman?

How are you actually reading Ruby tho?

I mean yeah I've used his proportionate sitewide activity to inform and reinforce my reads before

How long ago?

basically up until a couple of months ago maybe

And what prompted you to stop using activity to read Creature?

His meta becoming unreliable

this feels like you're questioning me with an angle but I don't see your angle so pls cut to the chase

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Based on what I know I can't support Ruby's wagon in good faith. Take it how you will

It's pretty much you or Snowman for me, if you think Ruby is hard scum and Snowman is hard town find me a better candidate? There should be another 2 or maybe 3 scum

Lady Angel, Performer

MAYBE alonzo because of his predeccesor

which one of these can you case the most spicy-fully for me? and which one am I gonna yell at people to flashwagon with me?

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btw explain why snowman is town for me? Where I'm at he reads howly


pedit: can't answer that but check Heroes Wanted for him starting to break his mold as scum

pedit2: can't read very well atm just gotta post

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I don't really parse why you're pushing Performer, it looks like a reread more than a misrep but again, still reading. why did you stop after 802?

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Ruby what are the chances you and Dunn are t/t?

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Ruby what are the chances you and Dunn are t/t?

Dunn same question

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Dunn Ruby isn't scum and I don't think you think she is
you're just spun out by Creature's lack of posting

I can't tell if you think it's a mislynch or genuinely think this is scum rn

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But liek snowman is scum

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But liek snowman is scum

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pha

r

ts

hehe

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FOS Purrcocet

sorry it's a little old - why the purrc FoS?
also where are your reads at in a holistic sense atm?

sorry not sure I'll be able to fully catch up before deadline but I'll try and keep the quality there. I have a Very Very Nerdy weekend ahead of me.

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The worst, I'm not sure what you're scum-reading me for from the 28% of posts of mine you've seen. The biggest take-away I got was that you think my questions are dumb and stupid, but that just seems like a disagreement in scum-hunting.

Meant to do this yesterday, but I got caught up in other things, so here's my case on the Manatee/Alonzo slot, split across multiple posts for your convenience.

ok we can lynch you tomorrow?? The fact you chimed back into the thread by discrediting my scumread on you like this is annoying

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The transition between these two posts are awkward. He never does explain how Dunnstral went from simply "bothering him" to actually being scummy. At this point it's also clear he doesn't care about voting anything but the popular wagons, which is pretty safe play and perfect for someone hoping to coast by D1.

and?
thoughts on his reaction to Dunn--does this exclude Dunn being scum fypov?

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So to recap, we've got Manatee who pretty much just coasted all of D1 and jumping back and forth from wagon to wagon with little rhyme or reason. He makes a few attempts to try to mirror his town meta but on the whole it more closely resembles his scum meta. And then we got Alonzo who cares more about inquiring about other's reads than making many of his own and just overall active lurking for the most part. His progression of his read on me doesn't make any sense at all and practically contradicts itself, and I really just can't buy his reasons for voting me at all, especially considering he knew I had my reasons for scum-reading his slot yet still can't comprehend why I'd vote him.

so can you explain why Alonzo is being interrogative rather than spending time looking more towny? ultimately your case here is "Manatee reps out as scum" which can basically eat shit unless I agree his rep out is AI (lemme catch up for this) and..... you don't like Alonzo's playstyle? where's his scum agenda here buddy?

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snowman what do you think of the dunn wagon

Its decent. But I'm more bothered by Manatee/Alonzo's play than Dunnstral's.

doesn't wanna vote his scumbuddy
figures

VOTE: Dunn

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Yeah still think Alonzo is best lynch

How tf

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oh shit the worst is here

oh shit maria's here
<3
what's good?

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hmm did we run up a scum PR on d1?

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anyway ruby is not a viable off wagon. if people buy this, lynch someone else but I'm gonna leave my vote here

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Kokichi is town

Tru

i dont at all believe that claim lmao

Neither do I tbh

carcalilly is the most obv town player in existence besides nancy drew probably

Is Carca hard town for you here? (gonna resume catchup, at the start of page 7)

oh shit the worst is here

oh shit maria's here
<3
what's good?

Nm non friend how are you <3

not much at all my fav non friend who I wanna be friends with <3

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Many have tried to lynch me. Many have failed.

What made you so willing to drop everything and focus on me, btw?

Hm? Who said anything about lynching? I'm just placing a vote. I would say 'drop everything and focus on you' is a bit extreme I still have my eyes on a few players my vote is just on you at the moment.

Maria towny Elsa probably slightly wolfy but he's slightly wolfy like 99.999% of the time

This reminds me a little of scum!Kokichi in the first game ruby and I played together (he was L-1'd then self identified that him being wagoned d1 was town indicative and the wagon dissolved?? so I sheeped ruby and vigged him)

I don't think it always comes from scum but this is definitely the kind of fallacial discrediting I'd more expect to see from scum than town

U mean u want to watch Almost50 hardscum and make me decide which one of u or Chara is scum

This is towny but Chara is probably not scum

VOTE: ManateeDude

So did you mean to vote me, or was it a mistake

I meant to vote you because you're playing like scum

but like
how..

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actual town use of that role is to hunt scum pr

pretty useful ye but I think clearing people who smell like vt is my favourite use of it (can get like a handful of hardclears rather than one contextual soft guilty which may never be workable)

agree wrt vanilla cop tho

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it was a great pagetop

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--

this is kinda towny

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but

A50 knows how to pocket me before I even replace in. sigh

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Purrocet, why is A50 red?

Trying to convince us that charisma can pass for towniness
His votes aren't good at all

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say purrcocet is making things up as they go along

That's why i had 3/5 last game and you were one of them

3/5 in lylo with 5 scum isn't good enough, by the way

I'd have had Chara so it's 4/5

And it's definitely good enough this game where you're doing the same shit.

yikes

I trust in purrc

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Have Mercy Upon Us [Active]: You are a Vanilla Cop. You may target a player during the Night, investigating whether or not they are a Vanilla Townie or not. "Vanilla" results are given for any role that doesn't have any individual powers (e.g., Vanilla Townie, Mafia Goon, a Serial Killer with no other powers); "Not Vanilla" results are given on all others.

This role gets vanilla results on vanilla townies and mafia goons

Ice Cream! [Active]: You are a Neapolitan. You may investigate a player in order to discover if they are Vanilla or not. Only Vanilla Townies will return 'Vanilla' results, all other roles will return as 'Not Vanilla'.

This is the role I claimed.

that's what I said, neaps should always clear VTs for town

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Neapolitan is the one who vigs people and turns them into ice cream right?

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pagetop nice

Dunn you know within the context of your page 1 request for VTs to claim you look exactly like a wolf now right?

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no, neapolitian is the one where every time you use it during the night the NRG has to add another variant of vanilla cop to the whitelisted roles

right, can't believe I mixed that up with the ice cream vig

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"vanilla cop but every time you cop someone three people get fruit vended at random"
"vanilla cop but it's actually a bus driver"
"vanilla cop but you can only check people in other ongoing games"

*approved*

i'm not kidding, and don't call me shirley.

nice one leslie

dunn's claim... lol?

pedit: well then ill at least find out who you are if youre serious

what does the bolded mean

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what does the bolded mean

sounds rather convenient, like a gunsmith claim would

how so? do you think he's scum for the claim?

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ya I'm not really sure what the angle is

acrually if Dunn greens you'd be the first person I'd look at here :s is that bad?

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ya I'm not really sure what the angle is

acrually if Dunn greens you'd be the first person I'd look at here :s is that bad?

That's why I'm vetoing that right now because I think there are things that point to Performer town this game and I think they're likely to be just awkward instead of scum

I'll take this into consideration, they feel different from the last time I played with them when they were scum but ya my read on that slot is not firm

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I agree with pretty much everything you're saying here Dunn but I also feel it's kinda consensusey

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purrco-...san?....I Am bad at this....

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my read on that slot is not firm

im delighted to see my meta is developing, after 3+ years


fwiw i probably always kill you if im scum and youre town
tw remember i kept pushing for your death in that game? because that wouldve won it for us imo

lmfao I'll never forget that <3

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I agree with pretty much everything you're saying here Dunn but I also feel it's kinda consensusey

Nothing I just said is following a consesnsus - nobody in the game has a read on kokichi declared and everybody is scumreading performer if I flip town, the only thing people agree with is purr town

??
I strongly believe Kokichi is town, who doesn't?
I think I'm the only one who said to review Performer if you green (might have missed other people saying it)?
Purr is town ya

I'm kinda stuck in the exact moment and lack a few hundred posts context but this feels fairly agreeable?

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the only thing there that feels controversial is scum!Ruby which is both incorrect and also the line you have to take as scum here so Your suspicion on her also literally boils down to you tunnelling creature based off meta who isn't here to defend himself

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fyi I've read less than 50% of larges I've been in before so it's a small miracle that I have the WIM to even do my catchups here.

purrco-...san?....I Am bad at this....

dunn will offer you sparkly things and bread but do not believe him

he whispers sweet nothings in my ear...

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actually i was one of the minority voices that said kokittles was scummy
but he's sort of in a murky player pool that includes elsa

we should sort Kokichi aggressively when i've caught up, still think he's p towny where I'm at tho

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Should I just vote somewhere?

What are your reads like right now? Voting will help for sure

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front and center, on the dunn wagon

teh quality of these pagetops........phew

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that isn't wasted on me, believe me
the pace of the game is pretty high tho so ir comes from town or scum

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Maria and Dunn look awesome

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*sigh*


this is a toughie, im really indecisive

wheres my spirit duck?

quack?

VOTE: Dunnstral
seeya all tmrw

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I think your theory is really angleshjootey and makes too many presumptions, how about instead of all that I just use my role on carcalily and hope mafia doesn't have a lawyer? And elsa can target nobody

My

theory makes too many presumptions? How about the theory of "someone" who is assuming (a) Carca is not Black Goo, (b) tw is Town, (c) Scum won't shoot him tonight, (d) scum don't have a JK to target him either, (e) he's not gonna get lynched today anyway while he is @L-2 currently and actually has been @L-1 with no announcement.

Now add (f)uck you for wanting me to also add a new presumption that you're Town (that one is only from my PoV, because if you are you know you are, but I don't know it).

Now, what exactly would be game breaking about confirming us both as VTs? In fact, how would it even confirm either of us if Anon just said that it could be the case? Carca could still b efaking for all I know, and I could be faking for all you know. Roles "possibly" appearing twice =/= is definitely the case here.

This is a scum post btw

or maybe a50 can decide to just pursue his theory tomorrow when his wagon has a higher probability of going through than zero percent

The one reason I didn't want a wagon on me today is I hate to leave the game without leaving an impact, which is why I just LOVE to draw the NK to myself as a VT. I believe I did have an impact already, and I also know scum won't shoot me on N1 because there are better places to hunt for PRs.

I am alright being today's lynch myself.

if this greens we lynch a50 tomorrow

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hammer trolling successful anonymousghost is locktown

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I fooled the wrong one.... T_T

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FYI Dunn I respect your towngame enough I'm treating Performer as hard town and will seriously reconsider Maria and Alonzo as possible scum tomorrow. Lady I am still on the fence about, A50 should probably be lynched if you green categorically

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ruby

my soul has literally left

it's fine

carca can get here and vote and then one of maria and kokichi can decide to stop not lynching scum

and then i can die

don't like LEAVE ME HERE

hey but you have me here now :{

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Perf were not gonna get the a50 lynch support today

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Dunn's unnerving because he is so far from antispew but this is still within his wolfrange easily. There isn't a better lynch we can get through before EoD.

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monkey you tempt me so... ~

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monkey you tempt me so... ~

And what exactly is stopping you, may I ask?

Time and the value of the Dunn flip!!

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Monkey pal I think you know I'd rather give you the time you deserve to be read and come to a better decision before lol!lynching you d1 anyway

help us out here

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@Chara: Noted. You might have noticed I didn't look at you much either, and it's for a reason.

Right now Purr is exhausting all her chances with me. I said I don't see scum!her doing this silly push on me, but she has outdone herself with that "selective/out of context quoting" which you know I really hate. Now why would TOWN ever do that when the explanation was not even a line below, but started ON THE SAME LINE she stopped at?

VOTE: Purr

This needs to get flipped NOW rather than 24 hours later!!!!

just like resuming my catchup mostly to bookmark

this is honestly >rand town A50 but not a strong tell in isolation, I also strongly disagree with the read but always see how he gets here naturally. if it's a wolf it's a good impersonation of town A50

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Theres at least 1 wolf on my wagon, town takes more time to think through a post and the alignment which cannot be done with a what post.

^ Scummy

VOTE: Dunnstral

Theres at least 1 wolf on my wagon, town takes more time to think through a post and the alignment which cannot be done with a what post.

town takes more time to think through a post and the alignment

So do town "not do that" and there's 3 mafia voting you, or do town, in fact, do that?

Quite frankly I don't understand what you're trying to say and I don't feel the need to make an effort to

Is this as s/s as it feels or am I just reading Manatee as very wolfy in this exchange? someone else look at this and answer for me d2 pls

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Mostly waiting for Manatee to pop back into the thread.

what

sigh...

got anything else to add?

Agree in terms of the general frustration with Manatee, but calling someone out on prod dodging while prod dodging yourself isn't much better.

I'm more annoyed that for the most part he's offered even less than the rest of the prod dodgers.

I'd also not be surprised if one of Almost50 and Purrcocet flipped red, but that's just a gut thing so don't trust it too much.

this is a really surface level read, actually don't feel strong t/s energy from A50/Purrc interactions. if anything it'd be scum!A50 who knows that the way he's reacting to Purrc's push looks like TvT but...huh okay maybe it checks out as a weird gut read

@Lady, fair enough. Join me on the Manatee wagon?

kinda towny

Idk A50 overemphasizing feels towny

Elaborate on this.

I feel as if scum doesn't feel the need to overpush their reads, it seems kind of awkward

I like this a lil tbh

ngl, given my meta i would expect a few votes for doing nothing but ok

anyone know what Nos is talking about here? I feel like this isn't outside his townrange at all

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did someone say hammer?

VOTE: Dunnstral

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anyone know what Nos is talking about here? I feel like this isn't outside his townrange at all

No clue, him doing nothing isn't outside of what he does as town

pretty much exact mood
really weird post

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spicy takes.

{elsa, dunn, alonzo, snowman, A50} is the game winning wolf poe.

choo choo
VOTE: A50 good start

will resume catch up when not running a fever, didn't wanna bother in case I died

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Where's day start again?

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VOTE: Performer

This all could have been avoided if we settled for this man here. I really want everyone here who voted for Dunn to feel ashamed you killed an asset so early.

Questions have to arise though of why the heck they killed the slot that could have been mislynched today. Actually...

Ruby had

something

right after all. I doubt they'd do WIFOM so early that they wouldn't get rid of someone elsa more likely to be conf!town. Or even the self proclaimed protective Performer.

this is a vote on town

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Chara/Maria/Carca

Chara maybe.

Maria and Carca are town.

Maria used actual ATE (not intentionally since I know she isn't trying to use it anymore.)

Carca is town from meta.

Someone needs to towncase Carca for me because I might be dumb but uh like.. :/

Chara is nearly always town, Maria is very likely town

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oh I just caught up, yeah okay Carca is a wolf

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UNVOTE: a50 sorry a51

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I'm not gonna try and feverpost with any kind of effort right now
<3

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factional nk

I withstood the blast

you say it so confidently
as if you were not town

think on this and throw it back to me if you wanna go down this path

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Actually fair

I wouldn't be remotely surprised by scum!Elsa given how d1 went down

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Haven't decided yet~ tell me more?

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I wouldn't bank on it? It's also not possible if A50 is a scum vanilla cop.

The question is why is he being allowed to get away with basically taking both sides of the Carca lynch. His claim gives him accountability

Say she flips town ie i lynched her for not being her role well if she wasn't vt she shouldn't have claimed vt (when what he's doing is almost the same thing)

Kokichi is taking a pretty lazy approach to this it seems like he's piggybacking off of A50.

This is on my mind as well, unless we have like nearly no vanillas having a town vc + nea feels like uh...

plus given he was suggested as the lynch several times yesterday and suggested he'd gladly self vote and be yesterday's lynch and also he's almost50 it wouldn't shock me too much for him to start d2 with a fake guilty as wolf

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Reaching out to Chara is the first thing I was gonna do after I can focus on on mafia again (I'm feverish and need to try to get to work).

I'm happy with Purrc as supreme ruler of the town o/
also don't wanna lynch outside Ruby's PoE on principle

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@A51 yeah I agree with that. All I can come up with is she's reasonably well townlocked based on meta and she's also claimed vt which exposes her to a soft guilty

eh

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Ok, since you all agree (Elsa, Koki & Chara) that Carca is Town, I think I have no alternative but to.. CONFIRM MY VOTE

VOTE: Carca

Thank you for your attention.

And since

ROLES CAN APPEAR MORE THAN ONCE

I believe

ANOTHER VANILLA COP SHOULD NOT CC

if one exists.

CARCA IS NOT VANILLA

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Ok, since you all agree (Elsa, Koki & Chara) that Carca is Town, I think I have no alternative but to.. CONFIRM MY VOTE

VOTE: Carca

Thank you for your attention.

And since

ROLES CAN APPEAR MORE THAN ONCE

I believe

ANOTHER VANILLA COP SHOULD NOT CC

if one exists.

CARCA IS NOT VANILLA

pagetopping for DrAmA

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where did your snowman sr go

Do I seem like I'm in high key game solve mode rn or

I want to lynch in ruby's PoE and will finish my catchup before I hardtunnel Snowman

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on that note

la next 48ish hours

not gonna focus on mafia til this fever passes

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town doesn't have 3 strong investigates here tho right? like one of LadAng and A50 is probably a wolf via sheer setup gaming? but like I wouldn't expect any towny to target LA last night except .. actually A50's reasoning checks out

this is stupid

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Purrc
Chara
please hold my vote for me... I trust you guys......

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Talk me through your rationale to watching Lady over say, Ruby or myself or Maria? @Lady

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watching Carca**
I'm sick leave me aloneee

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can someone give me cliffnotes on whats going on please I can check up on the thread a bit but not gonna re read

Almost being maniacal.
Carca bailing as caught scum.
Maria being pretty.
Angel being a Newb.
Purrocat being a Thot.
Alonzo coasting into day 3.

Is that good?

+ elsa being savage af

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good fucking luck, that's far beyond my current clogged-up capabilities

is elsa a wolf this time or am i dumb?

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carcaaaaaaaa i don't know
she had too many credible townreads and i feel like she's maybe siteflaked not just lurkin here?

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is elsa a wolf this time or am i dumb?

Why not both?

(Cheap shot, I know.. but it's been a while since I poked you in the nose, and I miss bugging you and driving you up the wall).

I mean it's cheap but is it wrong...?

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@chara the nk on ruby and that hes still alive
suddenly on d2 he claims hes sick
something seems very off about all this

Performer you're not a wolf irl
Don't post irl-wolf stuff like this

Do you need me to have the time to finish my catch up?

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Spoiler:

4 days later bad skin pale af dark eyes

I spent two days sleeping more than 12 hours with a fever and I'm a contractor so that means I'm missing out on money this fortnight :[

I am sick and I'm not happy about you pretending I would play this as though I was faking it. You talked me into townreading you day one for game related reasons. Return the courtesy, stop the angleshooting and try to sort me for reals. >:C

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Rc ran labyrinth mafia which had 3 mainscum + 1 traitor in 15p so we're almost certainly looking at 3 mainscum with power roles here

also v much doubt town has 3 investigatives ungated... so...

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Ran that image through FBI filing system, and it seems you're not registered. But why do I still feel you could be scum? Shall I consult the CIA??

Centre for Incurable Annoyingness?! I shoulda known you were in with those guys.

almost certainly looking at 3 mainscum

OP stated 3 scum, no need to guess

O perfect

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Go to whichever one is townreading me

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wynaut just lynch Elsa today and force both pr claims to produce results?

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Lynching the Ninja Lawyer claim? What a shock.

Seriously though Ducky, why TR Lady for screwing up and saying that's townie? Its just a newbie scum covering their trackers.

Putting words in my mouth? o.0

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-I don't believe it's definite that we have some sort of poison role on scum team despite ruby having 50% poison
-Dead 50% poison tpr, another tpr dead in dunn, another "tpr claim" in a50 claimed ninja lawyer, claimed tracker. I'm willing to forego lynching the latter 2 today because maybe this modular open has a balance thing running - so ninja & tracker make sense to coexist. The tracker should be able to be sorted out better as time goes on. If LA continues being suboptimal, we lynch her on d3 then
-Current scumreads in snow/maria/maybe tw (sr on him has been gradually fading)

Your SR on me is a meme which I out-memed
Find a better SR you don't have enough since I'm town

Also {TW, snow} is a very weird team and actually so is {Maria, tw}

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Based on a quick reread of the mod's posts on pg 1, there are NOT 14 ability roles ... leading me to think VTs can exist. I forget - who kept doubting there could be VTs in this setup? Serious question.

I was actually wondering if it was role madnessy a little earlier but I stopped thinking that : ]

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Lady you don't have to try to convince me anymore. You are 100% scum in my mind until your hung or NKed. I'm ignoring any other argument you got for you being town.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

If you won't even bother with reason maybe you'll bother with this? This makes it sound like you just want me to be scum rather than actually having a case.

What are your reads? And why didn't you track me , for instance?

Townreads:
- Maria
- The Worst
- Purrcocet
- Chara

Null:
- Snowman
- Performer
- Alonzo

Probably mutually exclusive to each other:
- Almost50
- Carcalilly slot

Scum:
- Kokichi
- Elsa

So my scumteam would be Elsa/Kokichi/one of a50 and Carcalilly slot.

And as I explained before, I tracked Carcalilly thinking I was watching Carcalilly because she was a claimed PR who I townread pretty solidly, and I wanted to see what would happen to her, if anything.

I still TR Kokichi but I probably like this post

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Do monkey/elsa SvS like this? I feel like I'm being obtuse. Obviously something wonky is going on and I have no idea what it is.

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You are the sick dark whispers of the abyss, Elsa.

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A50 I'm calling for someone who's not in the middle of this to explain it to me. LA carries herself with enough of an awkward tonality that this isn't a smoking gun for me, no. It's also surprising that we have a town neap flip and you're claiming vc with another tpr claim in play.

like one of you and LA is always scum and I don't really know how best to solve this atm.

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Your case makes sense. It always makes sense regardless of alignment (actually it not making sense would be slightly town indicative; but I digress )

Can I tell whether irs correct or whether I strongly agree when playing through several layers of mucus? nnnnnah

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Purr is town, pls srop

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Inb4 cults and everyone is town

sorry for being a lil useless I'm getting past the sickfulness but need to conserve energy and I haven't worked up the WIM for this one yet

I will be amazing l8r I promise maybe

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Inb4 cults and everyone is town

sorry for being a lil useless I'm getting past the sickfulness but need to conserve energy and I haven't worked up the WIM for this one yet

I will be amazing l8r I promise maybe

mate, I've realized a serious drop in your activity since we last talked on Discord, and I fear the worst. You didn't search for that video clip I told you about did you??

It's permanently scarred me; I'm less of a drake since that day

I'm still a tiny bit exhausted w mafia but taking a massive step back a month ago helped. I'm also tryna focus on just a couple of games at a time atm and like... not suck in them which I guess probably helps too (but I'm also sick rn so )

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Sup Chastity

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let's be real tho
town doesn't have a nea and a vt does it?

VOTE: A50

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Performer is a mess tonally but he's slightly more than likely town as well. : ]

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if they had I'd ignore them

just how I roll

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ya I'm a woof bork bork

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Im saying elsa or a50 today
I Dnt rly townread purrformer tho

I quite like this call
purrformer could claw his way back into my scumpool

Eod1 with dunn/purrf made me push him up my read list, tbh a lot further than I expected

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Charaaaaa where are you

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Basically I'm fine with Ay-Fiddy fakeclaiming as town but basically this re his motivations

I don't think I've seen Almost50 fake claim as town before. In fact I remember him outing our neighborhood before because he thought it was in the best interest when he was town. anyone have meta of him doing so?

has me like uUUHHH
he obviously didn't expect to come out of this exchange dead (in the face of Pers who is obviously markedly less awkward than Carca he's redacted it asap) which makes me think he might have actually thought he was the d2 lynch and decided to try to secure a mislynch within the townblock before he went down?

Ik I've done this as scum once as well (American presidents mafia) and I'm..not really seeing why a reaction test against obvious town is going to draw any different reaction from wolves or town...?

kinda wanna check in with Chara because its ability to read Mr. Fifty is markedly better than my own and I might be thinking too level 1 here

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like he almost constantly provides TPR crumbs regardless of his role (or outright claims something) to try and eat a n1 kill or WIFOM his way out of a n1 kill so it should never really be a surprise.

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Also Jay's baseless roleplay of Lady Angel's untimely demise makes me wanna flip Jay before we lynch LA

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You're actually claiming ninja lawyer

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why are we not lynching Jay again?
brb making a stance

VOTE: Elsa Jay

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why are we not lynching Jay again?
brb making a stance

VOTE: Elsa Jay

Still waiting for this "stance", btw.

That was my stance
We're lynching yoh because you're a wolf and the fact no one agrees means everyone is your scumbuddy

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I thought your reaction to A50's guilty was the wolfiest

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good take Lonzo

VOTE: Snowman

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Ruby is like in the top 2% of town players on the site ez and broke her scumrange D1

We're lynching from her PoE right?

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Ruby is like in the top 2% of town players on the site ez and broke her scumrange D1

We're lynching from her PoE right?

We should be. Problem with Performer is that she had him as townie, but one of her last comments on him was "also wagons point to performer/dunn not being t/t."

So, Performer kinda is and kinda isn't in her scum pool. Might be better to look elsewhere.

Not seeing what you're getting at wrt performer here. sorry

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spicy takes.

{elsa, dunn, alonzo, snowman, A50} is the game winning wolf poe.

Allowing for maybe LA and Maria I think this is a better place to start tbh

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also why am I not townreading A50 at all and where is Chara

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very nice..
why isn't this game as much of a clean sweep then?!

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yeah true

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we should probably just lynch MariaR because she's a listmod

(congrats Maria <3)

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Chara you're the best.
VOTE: Elsa Jay

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Also, something I noticed all over MS.. as soon as the mod reserves a post for a VC someone comes in to place a vote right after that.

I understand people waiting for a VC so as not to hammer inadvertently, but why they vote right after a VC that isn't there yet is beyond me.

this is a good pickup
you uncovered the votecountluminati's scheme... and we hid it so well

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I never have because I never thought of it, but now that you mention it, there's gonna be some annoyed mods.

D:

turn that frown upside down anonyghost
>:3

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{Elsa, A50, Snowman}
I want them in roughly that order..

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LA is a garbage compromise.

That's right. I've crossed the garbage line.

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actually maybe LA reds
hrm idk

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Even Dunn boycotted lynching performer

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Vote Count 2.13

Almost50: Kokichi Oma, Lady Angel, Alonzo [3]
Elsa Jay: Chara, Persivul, the worst, Performer [4]

neither of these wagons suck
reasonable chance of w/w tbqh

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their refusal to vote each other even survivalistic has me like...lol

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i kinda feel it, given anonyghost is amazing and the list is fairly reasonable this phase has been woeful
i would be pretty grateful if you stuck around though; feel like your slot is town tbh and we need some reasonably proactive people

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VOTE: Elsa Jay
end my suffering

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I'm p sure this is role madness at this point tbh

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VOTE: Elsa Jay

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I don't know?

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Elsa is a wolf and/or wolfsiding and has claimed a wolf +ev role and I don't want that alive in LyLo

choo choo binches

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The best thing to do now is to shut up, I know. It's hard for me. But clearly this will not go my way with my words.

Only advice is to know that 1 scum already have their vote on me. Hopefully we win this still.

Who then?

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Elsa is a wolf and/or wolfsiding and has claimed a wolf +ev role and I don't want that alive in LyLo

choo choo binches

I don't know
The EOD post town spews Elsa for me probably more than it should

I also lynched A50 for scumsiding and claiming like a wolf so...
Why do u have Perf locked town

its kinda hard to say and I need to reassess when I'm less worn out tbh

all I can really say is he's completely different to the scum!performer I've seen previously

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Lol

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I don't think all of his alts are outed tbh....