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Don't know how I'll keep track of this one.
Same, tbh.Last edited by Boonskiies on Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Someone who is a human and thinks something is true but isn't 100% certain may say/write if/then logic as a natural linguistic effect of that uncertainty. This goes for whether the uncertainty is in the 1st or 2nd part of the statement.In post 179, BrightEyedFish wrote:
Ok you're right... on the 2nd point.In post 176, Almost Chara wrote:if doesn't imply uncertainty by itself, and there's a sample town role PM in the opening posts.
further, the colloquial definition of "talk" includes written communication, because no one actually says "we're typing at each other in this mafia thread". ;>
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But I don't think someone who is town writes IF there. You don't have to see this IF as damning as I do, but don't forget it later on.
The devil is in the details.
Once you're in the pattern of if x/then y, modifying that pattern to another conditional to show certainty in x but conditional in y is possible, but to the writer unnecessary given they know what they are uncertain about.
I have never seen a legit slip of this type, and the people who call such so-called slips to attention have been scum at least half the time I've seen someone bring it up, possibly more.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I see that someone else got to the linguistics thing before I did.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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What's up with the plus signs, vs a comma list?In post 257, Almost Chara wrote:So far:
DrewVa + RCEnigma
BrightEyedFish + Davesaz
These are my two top tier reads
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I agree with this sentiment.In post 300, profii wrote:
how do you see the game panning out and town getting their hands on precious info? I take the point on spirit of the game but any info is good info i thinkIn post 297, Xtoxm wrote:Literally doing our own vcs and wagoning in the normal way though, isn't something I'm interested in here.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Good question, worth review later.In post 448, Nero Cain wrote:
Why do I have to think the same things as you?In post 446, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Because RCE had literally done nothing scummy.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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This is also worth noting for review.In post 449, Thanos wrote:
Sure, *you* may be oblivious as either alignment -- that doesn't mean it's false that scum would likelier be aware of such a mechanic.In post 440, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Yeah I still don't agree. I'm oblivious as either alignment. I would think it was towny reasoning if they didn't have a myriad of posts and therefore other points you could have sorted them as town for.
Feel free to disagree with me here, but I'm still sticking by it.
That slot usually has a lot of posts which I don't find AI.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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@RCE don't know how I'm reading it yet. Just marking for review.
Gamma seems town. Having 1/22 reads is progress in a game that doesn't have public votes.
I don't know if my way of identifying town A50 would work in a hydra situation. (this is a reminder to myself)Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I didn't notice either a question from Nero or an answer. Whatever it was must have been of dubious importance.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I have an active dislike for incessant posting of pictures and videos. Especially when they seem to be intended to convey meaning -- for me they don't even when it might be obvious to most people. I never play videos in particular and wish it were possible to have the browser not show or download them at all. Though that would result in more than a few posts that look empty.
Despite that, DrewVa is a townlean. Ultimate Liars is a scumlean. Karmeleon townlean. Nero townlean.
Keeping track of things is still a pain without in-thread voting, you don't get the flow info. I'm worried that town will have too little info to go on.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Don't really understand what Karmeleon is seeing in Ramcius play or vice versa. The back and forth is a bunch of I'm acting town, no you're not I'm acting town. An explanation would help.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Leaving aside who xslot is in relationship to the saying, how is one different than the other?In post 976, DrewVa wrote: Saying, Xslot can die can be townie. OTOH, saying I want Xslot dead, gives me the heebie jeebies.
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I'm interested in hearing some reasons, if it's something other than/additional to the thing I just asked about.In post 1012, DrewVa wrote:
I could do TLK, I just think Ram is scummier.In post 999, Karmeleon wrote:profii voted TLK and I want an actual wagon going rather than multiple vanity wagons by the end of the day.
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What do you think of 827?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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To be clear, I'm no fan of Ram's trajectory after that, but thought that post scored some points so want to see if it's been included or ignored in favor of what came later, and why.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Who are your current scumreads?In post 1033, Ramcius wrote:Karm, Profil, Drew, Gamma want my head suddenly, anyone else interested too?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Please quote slips into your hydra iso so we don't miss it later, thanks.In post 1084, DrewVa wrote:Sorry.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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That's a good post but which side does it help more?
Scumlean on DrewVa, based on their seeming eagerness to obfuscate.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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There should be a number of people who can read me much better after Stallone...
I had my other big toenail removed today. I’ll try not to be too grumpy. I may or may not be able to pay attention well.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Checking in for catchup, bottom of 59.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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TBH I'm pretty far out of touch RN. Only have the last few pages in memory.In post 2015, Thanos wrote:
Davesaz, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the current gamestate.In post 1618, davesaz wrote:Checking in for catchup, bottom of 59.
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I think it would have been better for town for TLK to not claim, assuming the SuperSaint claim is even real. The kneejerk reaction to people not "hammering" as directed can easily catch a TPR who has a darn good reason not to be venged just as much as it could catch scum, and therefore the strategy of trying to designate someone goes out the window. Though the claim does help TPRs avoid the hammer by not piling on, but that makes it a great scum fakeclaim. I don't remember if SS gets to choose to venge or not, or if it's compulsive. And if it isn't compulsive there is a question that someone with that role should be asking the mod.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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The point is that the long quoted post (pyramid) should be edited like I did to this smaller quoted post to remove the things that don't apply to the point being made.In post 2035, mcqueen wrote:
Sorry, this is stupid. I agree it is, but I’d rather know what’s being referenced.In post 1556, Something_Smart wrote:PLEASE stop quoting long posts. It's hell to read on mobile.
It sucks on desktop just as bad as mobile btw. The total number of words to read is just as important as screen space. Figuring out which part of a massive quote the new post is referring to costs processing power.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I woke up 8 pages behind and it's still 8 pages.
At the bottom of 101.
Those are some interesting details that Thanos posted.
IIRC Gamma(?) didn't post details.
Thanos, was your game in room C?
Didn't someone claim to have a +1 to give during day yesterday, with what sounded like the same mechanics as the Game A mechanics? Game A players, was there stuff in your room before you started?
I'm going to have more to say about BOONus rounds later. I'd like to finish reading up to at least the point I post this.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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My reads on D1 are shit just about always, and with plurality vote I didn't want to go out on a limb and inadvertently lynch a PR.In post 2582, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I agree and looking at the time stamps, Cheeky's lat minute switch comes off a little shady.In post 2581, Thanos wrote:
No faith needed. I think the hidden votes helped a lot. I feel someone unintentionally bussed.In post 2580, BrightEyedFish wrote:tbh, I want all of my posts to talk about how DrewVa is scum and I want all of you to go and faith and believe me but I do feel DrewVa's day will come, the sooner the better... but to progress the game because there are other scum out there I was wondering:
Do you feel we benefited from the hidden votes on D1 and should we continue with hidden votes today and wait for the flip to see the votes or should we all be more transparent today?
Also, UL, Nev, TA, dave, and Karm all have early time stamps and didn't switch there votes at all during the later stages of D1.
Maybe some comments from them on to why they didn't change their vote would be helpful.
As for not going ahead and voting FlippyNips, I think in this format it helps more if there isn't a huge pileon.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Let's make that several kilo posts instead lol.In post 2603, profii wrote:DrewVa you are a genius I have an idea but I’ll need a PC and some time - mega post to ensue!Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Wow, that's amazing that almost nobody posted during my catchup. Maybe I'll be able to keep up...
I was in BOONus room B, with Almost Chara and Karm. Karm and I "won" the minigame, and got a +1 and choice of (Disloyal, Loud, and a 3rd thing that I can't remember offhand). We had the option of keeping or gifting, same as the other BOONus rooms. Hopefully Karm will remember the 3rd modifier. It seems that the game will end up with a good number of us having roles that resemble the way that Boon plays the game in every setup -- wild!!
Profii, I feel like I should read the setup posts to see if that ability to gift someone is even a possible role in the setup (could be wrong though, maybe one slot can be an out of the blue new thing??). Care to share anything else about how you got that?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Doesn't look contraboon'd, so it could take a variant slot.
What was described would fit both under the concept of inventor and within the concept of the game, so I'm satisfied as to plausibility.
I have not put enough thought into determining whether it's AI.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Being wrongon thinking DrewVa scumslipped by knowing there were multiple BOONus games doesn't make the people who pushed that scum.
I'm undecided on whetherpushing it as a "scumslip"is AI. I have a running thing going where I can't remember how often scumslip pushers are themselves scum, and I keep forgetting to keep track of it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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At bottom of 113.
First why all the speculation that winning BOONus rounds has anything to do with next day reps, and then furthermore why does the day rep who didn't win a BOONus round need to be the scum of the group if there is one?
If Ram is town, someone pushing Ram as the scum dayrep (if there is one) is trying to deflect suspicion from the actual scum among the dayreps, if any.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Gamma feels town. Increasing suspicions on all slots that draw correlations between day reps and BOONus rounds.In post 2865, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Yes it is, holy fuck do I need to read a dictionary at youIn post 2848, mcqueen wrote:
3/4’s not a coincedence. Sorry not sorryIn post 2798, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I think it’s really just coincidence that the winners are the representatives. I’ll give it a couple days. Until then, STOP.In post 2403, Boonskiies wrote:Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Kinda interested to know what Elsa Jay thinks was ignored.
Also that color is very hard to read.
Finally caught up to the posts quoting the "more apparent" thing from Boon. OK, maybe there is a connection. Or maybe there isn't. I'm on record in countless games as being against making assumptions like that.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I can rule out "oldest vote" as not likely to be the method of choosing day reps. Thought that might be another plausible method given the age of my vote and Karm's. But there were several older D1 votes.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I just did a quick skim. There are a few weak-looking townreads. Didn't notice any explicit scumreads, though I only read about the 2nd half or so.In post 3124, Emperors New Groove wrote:
Funny...if you ISO me, I have explicitly stated reads. Sorry if they aren't all neat and proper like you would like.In post 3121, Nev and Max wrote:It's real easy to wiggle out of reads you haven't explicitly stated, just talked about, and pantomimed and sensed.
I'm going to bed...you're pushing scum read territory for lack of ability to read...because it almost has to be intentional.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 3155, davesaz wrote:
I just did a quick skim. There are a few weak-looking townreads. Didn't notice any explicit scumreads, though I only read about the 2nd half or so.In post 3124, Emperors New Groove wrote:
Funny...if you ISO me, I have explicitly stated reads. Sorry if they aren't all neat and proper like you would like.In post 3121, Nev and Max wrote:It's real easy to wiggle out of reads you haven't explicitly stated, just talked about, and pantomimed and sensed.
I'm going to bed...you're pushing scum read territory for lack of ability to read...because it almost has to be intentional.
I did a quick skimbackwards, and then they post reads on the next page.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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2293 was posted shortly after 23:00 GMT, or just after 15:00 Boon time if I’m remembering correctly that he’s California time. PST is gmt-8 so you should add 8 from boon time to get yours. If I’ve remembered wrong then...In post 3166, profii wrote:
Can someone in the right time zone check this for me because it’s bugging me and I want to make sure I’m doing it rightIn post 2293, The Last Knight wrote:I think a proper wagon/scumlean is profii. I am obviously not voting for myself because I don't want to be my own hammer on accident. So I just want to be on a reasonable wagon when the day ends. And profii isn't pinging my towndar at all.
VOTE: profii
ItappearsTLK said he would vote me half an hour after voting Theta according to the Boon vca
It could be because I’m GMT and adding +5 to all time stamps to find juicy posts near when people actually voted that I’ve infact messed this up
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I wasn't actually here for about the last 2 days of day 1.In post 3221, Something_Smart wrote:which brings up the question to dave and Thanos, why did you stay on UL when it seemed like the consensus was if a lurker was lynched, it would be flippy?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Alonzo, what does your list refer to?
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You're quite welcome to make this virtual VC yourself.In post 3360, Karmeleon wrote:When I requested the virtual VC, nobody handed it.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Possible scumpost.In post 3365, Karmeleon wrote:DrewVA, if you had to end the day this instant, who would you lynch?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Holding off to state any scumreads until others have done so. Yes, really.In post 3432, Something_Smart wrote:
Really?In post 3429, davesaz wrote:
Possible scumpost.In post 3365, Karmeleon wrote:DrewVA, if you had to end the day this instant, who would you lynch?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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How does existence of protectives affect whether rolefishing is good or not?In post 3433, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Ok yeah that’s kinda bad but keep in mind there’s probably a couple protective rolesIn post 3343, Xtoxm wrote:
@gammaIn post 2336, Xtoxm wrote:
noIn post 2332, Something_Smart wrote:Not asking for a cop, I'm talking about an investigative role that right now is almost useless, like vanilla cop, voyeur, or motion detector. Neighborizer also qualifies. If somebody has one of those roles, it's probably worth it to come out.
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This kind of senseless question typically means that Gamma is town.In post 3469, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay. What were you reviewing mechanics for?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 3473, Nev and Max wrote:
You tell people to iso you to get your reads. They iso you and find your reads wanting and not as easy to find as you purport. You call them scum for this...In post 3472, Emperors New Groove wrote:In post 3470, The Last Knight wrote:So I did ISO ENG and the reads are sparse and disorganized. Considering how many people are in this game, the multiple people asking ENG to provide a more concise list is very reasonable. So I found it very anti-town behavior to be so obstinate, especially when they know how hard their Iso is to read. So that's a big ping for me on my scum far.
This is also scum.
If multiple people think something, often they're right.In post 3474, Emperors New Groove wrote:Because it's incorrect and an attempt to serve their purpose.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Re: BEF vs Ram on page 141, if Ram unvotes and revotes, and TLK ended up tied with someone, the revote makes the timestamp later and the other player gets lynched instead due to earlier last vote. Mechanically what Ram is saying is correct.
This is not analysis on whether it's scummy by convenience or towny.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Vig can only be town in BooneyToonz games.In post 3, Boonskiies wrote:Town Only
Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Mason, Miller, Named Townie, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful,Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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From what I'm aware of, BOONus games give +shots and modifiers.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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In post 3430, Thanos wrote:Every time I read the thread there's a different angle pushed lol. Let's at least try to work together.
In case Thanos misses that this was a question...In post 3431, davesaz wrote:What's that in reference to?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Thanks, what are the different angles you're referring to?In post 3598, Thanos wrote:
Not used to large games. Due to the number of players, it makes sense that there're many angles being pushed because everyone will have differing opinions. Not referenced to anything specifically. Just the thread is on a totally different mood every time I catchup.In post 3578, davesaz wrote:In post 3430, Thanos wrote:Every time I read the thread there's a different angle pushed lol. Let's at least try to work together.
In case Thanos misses that this was a question...In post 3431, davesaz wrote:What's that in reference to?
What's everyone's votes on rn? Are we bringing back the end the day meme?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Posted too soon -- of those angles are there some you prefer over others?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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3621 could have used a line break or two. I'm having trouble parsing it.- Davesaz
Ramcius
DrewVa
Karmeleon
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.
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Back to work I went.
Surprised by the small number of posts I am, but grateful still.
I could go along with Mcqueen.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I certainly don't have any idea.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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If Creature is scum and Mcqueen is town then why wouldn't he push Mcqueen as the mislynch? I'm leaning toward both scum on that interaction. Maybe try to split the vote so they can nudge someone else over the line?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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Trying.....Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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But still scum, or WKing to try to salvage himself as town?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I had an independent scumread on Karmeleon btw.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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It's about freakin' time Creature actually plays, but he can be town for now.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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@Alonzo, if there is anyone you find more deserving of a vote than the apparently top wagons, now's the time to make that clear.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I think it's a massive wifom and not worth any more posts.In post 4493, BrightEyedFish wrote:
I think it's a good idea to know how the day reps are chosen.In post 4490, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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I'd be on board with BEF or Elsa to start with as a pool.Wanna play Minecraft with your ms friends? Check out the minecraft thread, or the channel on discord-
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