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Post Post #61 (isolation #0) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:34 am

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Hello everyone \o/

@NSG can you prod DDL please?
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Post Post #63 (isolation #1) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:50 am

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Sorry to hear that DT! :<
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Post Post #68 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:50 am

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You win this Round!
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Post Post #70 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:02 am

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Oh I didn't say that I did it now \o/
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Post Post #71 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:12 am

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1. How comfortable do you feel playing town/scum?

I'm very nervous as Scum to a point I try to joke around. As town in always serious though.
I was voted most likely to not lie at school though.

2. What are you good at, what aren't you good at?

I'm good league and I'm bad at Dota

3. What part of playing mafia is most natural to you?

Being lynched.

4. What is one thing about the current meta that you think should be changed?

Should always no lynch day 1

5. How well do you know the other people in this game, and how excited are you to play?

My first game on the site so I don't know anyone.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:21 am

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Since its page 3 I'll go with 3/10 \o/
But that's not my final form
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Post Post #76 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:32 am

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Me and DT are friends IRL btw.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:07 am

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In post 77, DoubtingThomas wrote:we are actually married, but vedith is homophobic and does not want to publicize that
Enjoy the couch tonight!
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Post Post #89 (isolation #8) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:17 am

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In post 86, DoubtingThomas wrote:from like prada and wolfy
How is wolfy These days?
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Post Post #96 (isolation #9) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:19 am

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In post 93, DoubtingThomas wrote:how do you know wolfy
Surprised you haven't worked out my name from there.
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Post Post #101 (isolation #10) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:24 am

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Okay sorry. I'll tell you after the game DT.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #11) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:58 am

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Unvote me now please. You know I can't react to pressure.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:59 am

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Well
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Post Post #122 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:00 am

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I'm good at being Mafia \o/
I'm also good at being town.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:04 am

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I think you're the best DDL \o/
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Post Post #136 (isolation #15) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:08 am

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In post 133, Gamma Emerald wrote:it's just annoying
I stopped saying I was your big brother, right? :igmeou:
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Post Post #141 (isolation #16) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:11 am

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But I did have experience with you and I would never bully you. You're my best friend \o/
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Post Post #144 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:12 am

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I am at L1 just because I'm a nice guy :<
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Post Post #147 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:13 am

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FA please confirm to everyone that I'm town here!
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Post Post #154 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:17 am

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I am confirmed mason now.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:26 am

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I'm not aloud to dab.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #21) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:57 am

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I think that's a bad vote.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:42 am

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You shouldn't. He will use that as weakness.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:47 pm

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I don't think I want Shoshin lynched day1
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Post Post #352 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:59 pm

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In post 318, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 315, DoubtingThomas wrote:good luck trying to lynch me
challenge accepted
VOTE: dt
This is maybe Scum though.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #25) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:01 pm

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In post 196, Alisae wrote:
In post 168, Vedith wrote:I think that's a bad vote.
ngl I am agreeing
Also dislike this.
Looking to dip the toes in the pond.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #26) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:02 pm

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In post 353, Xtoxm wrote:there we go
took longer than usual for someone to call me scum
You can rely on me.
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Post Post #358 (isolation #27) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:19 pm

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In post 357, Shoshin wrote:Hey Vedith, can you vote DT please?
Can you sell me on it?
I quite like DT and the only time I haven't seen him more vocal or maybe as more of an aggressive stance is when he was Scum in the dance thingy.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #28) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:26 pm

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In post 359, Xtoxm wrote:he also said that was his worst performance ever as scum
Yes but I don't have other experience to go by.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #29) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:41 pm

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That wasn't luck, that was me and RC trusting in BuJ as town correctly.
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Post Post #364 (isolation #30) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:42 pm

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Wait you are BuJ.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #31) » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:55 pm

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Regardless it's a different situation and not at a stage where a self vote loses the game.
BuJ, what's your selling point on it?
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Post Post #500 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:15 am

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In post 476, Frozen Angel wrote:Why is shosin still alive?

4 more votes needed.
VOTE: DoubtingThomas

Shoshin isn't today's lynch.
I'd rather away from DT but I'll lynch DT over Shoshin.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #33) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:16 am

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In post 479, Frozen Angel wrote:@shoshin just a headsup that you're permenantly banned from playing any games I mod and you're blacklisted. never join the games I'm in and never replace in them. At least be decent enough to do that.
Don't feel bad here Shoshin I'm also in the same boat :(
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Post Post #510 (isolation #34) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:35 am

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So I pick a vote out if vanity and just let Shoshin get lynched for bad reasoning?
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Post Post #513 (isolation #35) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:46 am

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AtE is always NAI. Always.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #36) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:01 am

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In post 515, NerfedBuJ wrote:'AtE is NAI' is incorrect.
AtE is
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Everyone gets frustrated as any align.
If you build a case around or including someone using AtE I don't ever take it seriously.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #37) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:09 am

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Not at all. Assuming that being a solo voter while the last 10 pages are all about 2 lynches is going to be any use is going to do nothing.
You know as much as a I do that a lynch can come out of no where.

Given that DT and Shoshin are taking the stage light, what other wagons are you seeing productively pushed?
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Post Post #520 (isolation #38) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:14 am

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I'm picking the lesser.
I'd re vote Xtoxm here as probably Scum.

Shall we talk about?
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Post Post #522 (isolation #39) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:23 am

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Why would you lynch Xtoxm?
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Post Post #526 (isolation #40) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:55 am

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In post 523, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:No. This isn't true and if you don't believe me I think I can probably find examples. Usually AtE is NAI but there are plenty of times where you can look at it at think "wow, that emotion doesn't make sense as town, that's definitely a fake anger to try and make the other person back off "
I can show you examples where Scum and town have both given AtE. I've been frustrated and annoyed as scum the same as town.
Too many players use AtE as an acceptable reason to read players on here and I find that tragic.
Being right on an AtE doesn't mean it's not NAI. Its basically the same as saying x amount of names at the start of the game and if right at the end going "Yeah this is a thing".

I'm not wrong here.
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Post Post #528 (isolation #41) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:07 am

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In post 527, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:I agree that most of the time it is NAI. I'm also telling you it can be pretty obvious when someone is trying to manipulate someone emotionally.
Yes and this can be done as either align. I have seen town fake emotion just to get their reads followed, which involves manipulating.
It's always NAI
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Post Post #531 (isolation #42) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:55 am

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If Shoshin was town then who would you like as Scum?
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Post Post #537 (isolation #43) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:59 am

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In post 533, DoubtingThomas wrote:Vedith why r u voting me? Because u dont want shoshin to be lynched? That doesnt make sense
Not a lot does make sense. Not your case, not your vote.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:01 am

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In post 536, DoubtingThomas wrote:I am townreading ee fa and pvt
You're town read it them with a biased opinion just like Shoshin is only town reading with a biased opinion.

So my apologies but your town reads mean very little right now.

Who else is Scum, or if Shoshin was confirmed town?
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Post Post #540 (isolation #45) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:15 am

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In post 539, DoubtingThomas wrote:How is this case hard to understand?

How is what shoshin doing anything that resembles a town?
It's more of a weak case and I don't buy it.
Its also ironic you aren't answering my questions but using that as your case on Shoshin.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #46) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:18 am

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If Shoshin was confirmed town, who is Scum, DT?
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Post Post #545 (isolation #47) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:23 am

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I'm trying to get you off a tunnel that doesn't help town.

But we're getting somewhere. So I'm not asking in good faith.
Do you think my motive for voting you as not a Scum read and defending Shoshin is Scum based?
I think Alisae has a decent chance of flipping Scum. Is it the voting with Shoshin?
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Post Post #547 (isolation #48) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:26 am

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In post 544, DoubtingThomas wrote:No wonder ee scum reads u highly ur play here doesnt seem like u r tryinng to solve my slot, but focus on weakening my scum reads and my position in the thread worse

You say that my scum read is weakand you dont buy it but are not trying to explain why its weak because i feel strongly that ive never seen someone play any scummier or at least anti town as shoshin has played so far and you ate just ignoring my case with a mere “thats a weak case”
Anti town isn't Scum that's why.
A lot of players just go "book says this way, just be the case".
By now you should realise I look at different routes.

I'm sorry for not taking a case seriously that had you doing the same, and for a shitty self vote reason.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #49) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:27 am

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Also I don't care if EE is voting me. They have made no effort to engage me outside of my NAI opinion so frankly I take their vote as just being seen.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #50) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:42 am

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Why not Xtoxm? Other than he voted DT.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #51) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:10 am

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In post 554, DoubtingThomas wrote:Antitown isnt scummy is not a. Reason why that person is town

Scums pull antitown moves to harm the village. Tell me why she is town
But your argument is that she's Scum for it. I'm saying it's not the case.

I don't Scum read her in anyway. I think her posting is town and I don't have a valid reason to think otherwise.
The push and votes from others is just tragic because I don't truly see anyone reading your case and nodding with it.
I don't understand how you can have a case on someone and yet do what you're accusing them of.

You're trying to change me questioning over other Scum and move your tunnel vision, even if you remain thinking Scum on Shoshin I'm trying to discuss over these.
I don't care if you town hunt, you clearly aren't and your town reads are biased (which I'm not arguing, im just not listening to them).

Pedit okay I'm reading the other parts you're posting now.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #52) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:12 am

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In post 557, DoubtingThomas wrote:It jad no substance except empty town read on shoshin for a post, attacking me for nai reasons like “you are a newbie in mafia scum so dont try to pretend like you own it”

Calling me obnoxious and “i dont think town pushes like he does” except... i do... and a lot of ppl do even ppl i know that plays here does and looks like alisae has tons of ww experience so idk where she gets that idea from
Maybe I should read this post with these in. Give me a moment.
You're making me a lot of effort into it here. :mad:
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Post Post #569 (isolation #53) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:13 am

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In post 566, DoubtingThomas wrote:Try to sell me what is townie about shoshins posting
I'm not really trying to sell it.
I'm trying to get a better a lynch.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #54) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:16 am

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Seriously how am I supposed to read all of that ISO?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #55) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:18 am

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Shoshin why do you think I Town read Eagle?
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Post Post #574 (isolation #56) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:22 am

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I just thought it was a bad vote. I didn't take into consideration of what Eagle was.
That's fine but why did Eagle look town? As you said you can see why I had him as town.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #57) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:24 am

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UNVOTE: DoubtingThomas

Im sure this is TvT all over.
And lazy town/Scum are encouraging it for easy mis lynches.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #58) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:26 am

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You're both being unreasonable here, both giving worthless reads and I really don't want to read Shoshins ISO. Probably not DTs either.

If Scum are on any wagon I suspect it's on Shoshins
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Post Post #579 (isolation #59) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 577, Shoshin wrote:Eagle was actively leading the game, Vedith. It was the easiest townread to have at that point.
Okay fair enough.
I just wondered why he was a town read early on.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #60) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:27 am

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Voting DT
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Post Post #583 (isolation #61) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:30 am

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Of course it's unreasonable.
Your posting and making other possible reads hard to get.
You're judging me as town purely because I'm calling you town same as DT calling me Scum purely because I'm calling you town.

Its a TvT debate and it's getting impossible to move aside from it.

It's unreasonable.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #62) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:31 am

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Youre posting constant posts about something that everyone already understands or has an idea on your view.*
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Post Post #585 (isolation #63) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:33 am

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BuJ could actually be Scum here I think.
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Post Post #590 (isolation #64) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:36 am

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I didn't like the fuel on the fire saying that a game we just had was almost lost from self voting.
It's a different situation all together, and as said, both players to do it were town so BuJ should surely have the mentality that it's a townier thing to do.

VOTE: NerfedBuJ
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Post Post #591 (isolation #65) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:36 am

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In post 589, Shoshin wrote:
In post 584, Vedith wrote:Youre posting constant posts about something that everyone already understands or has an idea on your view.*
Which posts?
Majority. Anything about or to DT is just over and over.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #66) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:42 am

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In post 592, Shoshin wrote:
In post 591, Vedith wrote: Majority. Anything about or to DT is just over and over.
This is blatantly untrue.
No it's not.
I started to read your ISO and i saw the same basis.
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Post Post #595 (isolation #67) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:43 am

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In post 586, Shoshin wrote:I keep getting asked, so no, not everyone understands. I'm not just randomly repeating myself.
Also im not saying randomly repeating yourself.
I'm saying it's the same stuff. No one here does not understand that you think DT is Scum by now.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #68) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:51 am

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In post 596, Shoshin wrote:It's fairly obvious I'm not repeating myself about things unless specifically asked by someone who doesn't understand (e.g. Grapes). I've hardly mentioned or interacted with DT at all, all things considered. I think you're confusing me with DT who actually keeps randomly repeating himself.
Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like that's all I see. Over than the minor questions I see answered outside of the situation.
I retract my unreasonable comment, and replace it with participating in making the game unbearable, even if indirectly.
I already said DT is being unreasonable and the last 10 pages odd just haven't been enjoyable.

You think BuJ can be Scum, can you vote there?
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Post Post #606 (isolation #69) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 604, Shoshin wrote:You're seeing things that aren't there, then. You're treating me unfairly because of DT's play, not mine. DT talking about me doesn't equate to me talking about him. Don't confuse the two.
I already retracted my comment.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #70) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 605, Alisae wrote:Yeah I’m not moving off of DT ywall are gettin side tracked easily here
Interesting.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #71) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:04 am

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Alisae Scum on a BuJ scum flip.
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Post Post #624 (isolation #72) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:12 am

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In post 617, Alisae wrote:
In post 615, Vedith wrote:Alisae Scum on a BuJ scum flip.
oh no I am trying to push something else that isn’t your wagon
Gotta be scum
I said only if Scum.
If town, nothing to worry about right?
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Post Post #668 (isolation #73) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:49 am

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In post 658, Alisae wrote:@burd brain

In all seriousness idc ask me for a vedith read mid-late game I’ll give you one then.
Reading trash like that right now is actually a waste of time, he literally has the same odds of being scum as everyone else.
I think you should expand your horizons for now. There’s a lot more to teh game then vedith
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Post Post #676 (isolation #74) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:00 am

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In post 674, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Alright usually I try not to out myself on day one, but I'm a cop with a guilty on vedith and he told me in his PM in our neighborhood that he wants to be lynched today anyways.
This is false I have only posted once in the hood and all I said was "Vedith".
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Post Post #754 (isolation #75) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:55 pm

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In post 752, NerfedBuJ wrote:Which doesn't make sense because a) my personality and mafia beliefs, b) I didn't even scumread shoshin for the self vote, c) the same people voting me are calling self-votes NAI but they want me to townread it.
This is false.
In post 590, Vedith wrote:It's a different situation all together, and as said, both players to do it were town so BuJ should surely have the mentality that it's a townier thing to do.
I was saying how your post didn't match to the mentality your argument would have had.
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Post Post #755 (isolation #76) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:56 pm

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In post 753, NerfedBuJ wrote:And saying that, vedith absolutely saved the other fire game I linked by correctly townreading me in a situation where I had bad reads. That required a deep analysis of my character, the game-state, and the intent behind my posts.

To come here and see him vote me because I don't let a self-vote change my read on someone I was voting shows a complete lack of the awareness the vedith I described above had.
Nice mis rep here.
I think I'm getting good at you reading you.
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Post Post #756 (isolation #77) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:04 pm

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In post 753, NerfedBuJ wrote:on someone I was voting
Can you explain what the Scum read was when you voted? Reasons and such.
And can you explain the Scum read now and if it's adapted?

And lastly who else catches you're eye as Scum? You think I'm just mis reading you (correct me if I read wrong) so why would you consider me town here over Scum?

Im going to bed but we can pick up again tomorrow.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #78) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:08 pm

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I don't get the relevance?
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Post Post #761 (isolation #79) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:22 pm

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In post 759, NerfedBuJ wrote:And scumcase on shoshin was because she ignored DT's attempts at engaging her directly. Like she got something to hide.
But this was never made clear and was never addressed as the issue when voting her.
On the game you linked you described why someone was Scum in your posts.
Here you just jumped on.

Also, that's why I wanted clarification if you town read me as it looked to me as you said you were.

Now with your updated reasoning. Do you feel that this is an echo or...?
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Post Post #762 (isolation #80) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:27 pm

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In post 760, NerfedBuJ wrote:You seem to think I should be inclined to townread self-votes because of recent events. Why would that ever be the case?
No, not at all. Anyone who plays with me knows that I believe AtE is NAI and self voting is a form of AtE.

You used the argument from that game concerning self voting and tried to compare a day 3 self vote to a day 1 self vote that in theory doesn't directly cause the lynch.
You said about the 2 players self voting were town, so in that mentality alone you should be thinking that it's a townier thing to do, by the information you arguing with and the results of your argument.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #81) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:28 pm

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But really I'm going to bed now it's 3 30am
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Post Post #764 (isolation #82) » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:28 pm

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Sleep well all of you wonderful people \o/
You too Grapes.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #83) » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:16 am

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In post 61, Vedith wrote:Hello everyone \o/

@NSG can you prod DDL please?
I said in the sign ups I was doing this.
Just throwing that out there before work.
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:21 pm

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Really busy, catch up later / tomorrow.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:24 am

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Someone go over the Grapes wagon for me.
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #86) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:50 am

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In post 1373, NerfedBuJ wrote:I think vedith doesn't deserve townreads yet. He can obvtown and hasn't posted enough yet to do that so y'all want to explain the tow reads?
This is the first thing I've liked from you and I suspect there's Scum somewhere town reading me.
BuJ still Scum here I think though.

Why was the wagon dropped?
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #87) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:13 am

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In post 1384, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Ok. Thought as much but wanted to make sure.
Why is Grapes a good vote?
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #88) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:26 pm

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In post 1405, Jingle wrote:DDL: RE: Buj.

Are you saying those posts are a reason to scumread Buj, or that they're not a reason to townread Buj? Additionally, why those four posts?
Dann claims to have only read 10 pages and calls him town.
The posts DDL linked are all of BuJs posts in the first 10 pages, which are NAI.

Dann is also comparing it to similar play of BuJ which is hard to see and hard to understand with so little.

Probably Scum buddy trying to cover for another.

I'm sure if I interpreted it incorrectly then it can be said.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #89) » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:27 pm

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In post 1406, NerfedBuJ wrote:He's not wrong.
So, what's you're opinion on Dann with that alone?
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #90) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:19 pm

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Hello \o/
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #91) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:27 pm

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???
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #92) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:30 pm

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BuJ?
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Post Post #1446 (isolation #93) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:28 pm

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In post 1442, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I don't think BuJ is mafia considering things like this
In post 601, grapes wrote:VOTE: Nerfedbuj
About time boys
And his general attitude towards BuJ this game:
In post 611, grapes wrote:buj flips scum a lot of the time people
In post 614, grapes wrote:My intuition
Scum can distance/bus easy enough.
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #94) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:10 pm

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Oh.
I like it.
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #95) » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:11 pm

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In post 1451, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
In post 1446, Vedith wrote:Scum can distance/bus easy enough.
They certainly can.
Would they bus, is a different matter altogether.
There's a 1 in 2 chance they do.
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Post Post #1490 (isolation #96) » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:13 am

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\o/
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Post Post #1491 (isolation #97) » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:15 am

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In post 1485, Dannflor wrote:Vedith, who is scum with Buj? You kinda reactively called me a buddy to him despite the fact you town read DT before hand. If Alisae flips scum does that make Buj more likely scum to you? What do you think of other players? omg wait ACTUALLY can I get a rainbow reads list plz and ty?
I don't know.
I have town reads, people that I feel I should just ignore reads and not many Scum reads.
No rainbow read for you yet! Although I'll be sure to give one before day ends
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #98) » Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:16 am

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Busy
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #99) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:44 am

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Ew
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #100) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:31 am

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If I vote Shoshin and they flip Scum do I get town credit?
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #101) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:33 am

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That's enough for a town anvil to get me going \o/
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Post Post #1671 (isolation #102) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:38 am

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VOTE: Lycan

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Post Post #1688 (isolation #103) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:05 am

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Thank you for defending me there Eagle. That's sweet \o/
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #104) » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:07 am

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Hmmm okay let me think to put it into words.
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #105) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:32 am

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Don't self vote.
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #106) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 am

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Because I believe in you \o/
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #107) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:37 am

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VOTE: Prince
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Post Post #1919 (isolation #108) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:38 am

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Dann we can be good friends just trust me \o/
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #109) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:42 am

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Okay sure.
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Post Post #1937 (isolation #110) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:56 am

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I like Dann trying to just push focus back into solving.
Dann town \o/
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #111) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:00 am

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Dann stop making me look bad!
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #112) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 am

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VOTE: Jingle
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #113) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:05 am

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I'm helping \o/
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Post Post #2008 (isolation #114) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:45 am

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In post 2004, mcqueen wrote:been sick the past few days:/
Glad you feel better \O/
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #115) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:30 pm

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Just because Shoshin replaced out doesn't mean the alignment magically changes to scum.
You can all follow me now.
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Post Post #2129 (isolation #116) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:36 pm

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And you will know if night killed or end game.
But a lynch for that reason isn't acceptable.
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #117) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 2132, Prince of Renais wrote:
In post 2129, Vedith wrote:And you will know if night killed or end game.
But a lynch for that reason isn't acceptable.
why are you ignoring the fact that we've spent the last dozen odd pages discussing why this play is scum indicative for her
Because I think you're wrong here.
There's a reason that there was doubt shown to the Scum read.
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #118) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:52 pm

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In post 2142, Dannflor wrote:
In post 2121, Vedith wrote:You can all follow me now.
What does this look like? Lynching Jingle?
Yes. The plane went to auto mode because the pilot fell out, but I have a few flying lessons myself on the past.
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Post Post #2148 (isolation #119) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:56 pm

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In post 2146, Jingle wrote:
In post 2143, Vedith wrote:Let's make a better tomorrow, today!
Let's make a better yesterday, tomorrow!
I like you're thinking, Jingle!
When we lynch you I make a statue of you in the middle of the court yard!
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #120) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:58 pm

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Stop it Ank, i'm not Scum! :mad:
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #121) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:02 pm

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In post 2155, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I think Ankamius said the exact opposite.
No I read it the same.
Ank thinks Clem and BuJ not Scum.
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #122) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:08 pm

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In post 2160, Prince of Renais wrote:or we could lynch shoshin

\o/
No point in lynching town just because emotions were raised tonight.
If you strongly feel that your main reason is a side of lynching as Scum, can I at least suggest an unvote, sleep on it and if you feel the same tomorrow then fuck it?
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #123) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 2161, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
In post 726, northsidegal wrote:
Votecount 1.10

NerfedBuJ(4)
~ (75), (26), (16), (84)
Oh here's a good reason for BuJ town actually.
That was such a good day, feels like it was just yesterday we almost lynched BuJ!
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #124) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:27 pm

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In post 2181, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:and Vedith for a meme.
Yay I'm something \o/
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Post Post #2193 (isolation #125) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:34 pm

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In post 2184, Dannflor wrote:if Shoshin is red I'd lynch Vedith sooner than that
You think after the 1 time I defend a Scum buddy over getting them lynched loses me a Scum game that I do it again?
Even more so when players from that game are here including yourself?
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Post Post #2194 (isolation #126) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:34 pm

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In post 2186, Prince of Renais wrote:Vedith > Clem > Jingle > needs further review
And who do we lynch on a green flip?
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #127) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:35 pm

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In post 2188, Prince of Renais wrote:in my experience with vedith, yes.
Hold on, please share this experience where I white knight my Scum buddy.
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Post Post #2201 (isolation #128) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:38 pm

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In post 2197, Dannflor wrote:
In post 2193, Vedith wrote:You think after the 1 time I defend a Scum buddy over getting them lynched loses me a Scum game that I do it again?
That wasn't at all what caused you to lose in that game, and in fact is part of why you managed to go as far as you did
That's not true at all.
If I lynched TL I wouldn't have had to push on Yumeko, I wouldn't have had to kill RC when I did. I wouldn't have had to kill you night 1.

It plays the game out 100% differently and imo is what lost it.
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #129) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:39 pm

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In post 2198, Prince of Renais wrote:I'd rather not, sorry.
Because your statement is false.
I will throw my Scum team under the bus before I defend them.
So what you're using here is false meta?
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Post Post #2209 (isolation #130) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:40 pm

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1 game I did the WK shit and they were not in it.
So to say they have experience of me white knighting my Scum buddy is false.
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #131) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:41 pm

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In post 2207, Prince of Renais wrote:you're discussing 2057 right now where you defended your scumbuddy on D1
You said with your experience with me.
That's not your experience with me.
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Post Post #2216 (isolation #132) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 2200, Dannflor wrote:I don't know why this is a point of debate for you Vedith if you're so sure Shoshin is town
My debate isn't that I'm lynched on it, as I didn't argue the comments for that.
I just don't think you believe this.
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #133) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:46 pm

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In post 2213, Prince of Renais wrote:in the interest of keeping a secret alt secret, I will not share my experience. :P
Even if you were in that game. Are you saying that you are basing my entire play as Scum from that one game where I WK a Scum buddy and also heavily assisted in throwing my other Scum buddy under the bus?
I'm not buying that comment.
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Post Post #2221 (isolation #134) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:48 pm

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In post 2219, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I mean if you did it once, it means you are capable of doing again so...
Doesn't change that it's fake meta.
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #135) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:51 pm

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In post 2223, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:What is "fake meta?"
Exactly what PR said.
Made up meta on me saying that they have experience with me of WK a Scum buddy.
Which is false.
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #136) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:54 pm

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In post 2227, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I mean indirect experience is a thing
That's not how the worded and you know it.
Then tried to play the "I don't want to out my alt" shit.

If you're not going to back up meta comments then don't say it.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #137) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:55 pm

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In post 2229, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Also even if it's "fake meta" it doesn't really invalidate anything right?
Since, well, you clearly did it once.
I have experience where you had this opinion and was Scum.
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #138) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:56 pm

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In post 2231, Ankamius wrote:vedith this is the part where I WK you right
No
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #139) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:56 pm

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In post 2229, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Also even if it's "fake meta" it doesn't really invalidate anything right?
Since, well, you clearly did it once.
Do you even realise what meta is?
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #140) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:58 pm

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In post 2236, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Jokes on you, I never rolled mafia ever.
But then, I only played two games.
I have experience on your alt.
I don't want to go into detail as I don't want to out my alt but you tried to use this excuse as Scum then too.
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Post Post #2243 (isolation #141) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:01 pm

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In post 2239, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
In post 2235, Vedith wrote:Do you even realise what meta is?
Meta is nothing more than a players' play information based on their previous games.
Exactly.
The way it's said is that it's something I do often.
The response on alt shit means they are saying they were in a game with me.
They weren't in 2057 even if they imply it.

So it's fake meta.
Why the fuck would they be making it up?
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #142) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:02 pm

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In post 2241, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Why are people calling me alt account? :(
I'm just making a point.
Obviously I have no reason to think that your an alt.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #143) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:05 pm

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In post 2187, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:I'm not sure. Would mafia openly WK scummate like that?
In post 2188, Prince of Renais wrote:in my experience with vedith, yes.
Nope I don't see it.
Why the fuck are you defending that?
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #144) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:10 pm

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In post 2250, Dannflor wrote:You think he is scum because of that?
No I think town and that's why it's so fucking stupid to make meta up as town.
You I don't know why and I don't care why.
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #145) » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:49 pm

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In post 2323, Prince of Renais wrote:Like he's played so fucking many games

If he doesn't know who I am why does he immediately go to insisting that I wasn't in the one game that I was actually in?
The only players I know be that game on a better level are Hopkirk, DDL, RC and gamma.
And since you're you're not any of them the fact you consider I know your alt is just a shit excuse to someone who looks fucking tragic for using fake meta.

You made the comment, you need to accepted that it was a shit comment that you instantly pulled your neck back in from me posting and hid with your tail between your legs while I was posting about it last night.
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #146) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:49 am

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In post 2342, Xtoxm wrote:come on vedith its not that hard, i realised instantly
Then well done to you.
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Post Post #2381 (isolation #147) » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:07 am

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I think it's a no \o/
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Post Post #2449 (isolation #148) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:50 am

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Hello
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Post Post #2452 (isolation #149) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:27 am

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It was okay, I had to fill my car up and ended up smelling of gasoline.
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Post Post #2454 (isolation #150) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:28 am

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VOTE: Jingle
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #151) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:36 am

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I'm sure.
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Post Post #2563 (isolation #152) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:45 am

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Town
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Post Post #2580 (isolation #153) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:07 am

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Lol here comes the weak pushes on me.
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Post Post #2582 (isolation #154) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:10 am

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About what?
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #155) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:17 am

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Okay fine.
I don't think I overly care any more.
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #156) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:43 am

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I'll lynch in any.
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Post Post #2746 (isolation #157) » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:55 pm

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Well, you're not a town read I can tell you that much.
Given how yesterday went i'm not in any position to blindly follow anyone here outside of Shoshins reads.
I don't think Scum were pushing Shoshin as Scum Though and just sitting back instead.

So if you want me to vote else where then explain why I should. Otherwise just keep voting me.
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Post Post #2753 (isolation #158) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:56 am

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In post 2747, Dannflor wrote:What changed?

You also just completely dodged my question

Who are you town reading right now?
About 30 pages a lynch on my town read and the night.

I'm not interested in giving my town reads.
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #159) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:51 am

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In post 2755, Dannflor wrote:Why not?

It's very hard to get a bead on you when you insist on not giving out reads and at the same time using a dead person to justify all your actions today.
Okay.
I'm not sure how my town reads are going to change your opinion here rather than if I give Scum reads.

General meta on me shows that I'm more likely Scum hunt than town hunt.
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Post Post #2759 (isolation #160) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:50 am

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I already said that Scum weren't pushing Shoshin yesterday and just sitting back.
I'm still trying to decide who it was.
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #161) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:59 am

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In post 2810, Dannflor wrote:Scum have 3 ignites iirc, why not ignite N2 if it destroys town core or a dangerous player like Prince?
Just means Scum either have the wrong targets Or are confident enough that they aren't under direct pressure.

Same happened in that forest fire or whatever where Scum just left BuJ to be pushed as Scum or push Scum who were town and just sat back.
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Post Post #2961 (isolation #162) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:02 pm

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In post 2927, DrDolittle wrote:re: vedith wagon. i can do that but i prefer it happens when vedith comes back into thread
I didn't leave the thread?
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Post Post #2968 (isolation #163) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:17 pm

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Do I get town credit if I vote Xtoxm?
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Post Post #2974 (isolation #164) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:06 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm
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Post Post #3090 (isolation #165) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:28 am

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No.
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #166) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:13 pm

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In post 3265, Dannflor wrote:in fact he's still just sheeping her today
This is false.
At least see where I'm voting before posting this kind of stuff.
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Post Post #3274 (isolation #167) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:28 pm

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In post 3269, Dannflor wrote:Point is still, you're putting in a bare minimum effort today and I don't quite understand where your apathy is stemming from
I mean, if you don't notice my change of vote then are you honestly going to notice if I put effort into today?
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Post Post #3276 (isolation #168) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:32 pm

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I'll do a rainbow read later.
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Post Post #3620 (isolation #169) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:20 am

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No.
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Post Post #3622 (isolation #170) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:27 am

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Stop that! :lol:
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Post Post #3624 (isolation #171) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:29 am

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I can do it now, since I'm at my PC \o/
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Post Post #3625 (isolation #172) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:33 am

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Prince

Ank

Reiuji

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Post Post #3626 (isolation #173) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:34 am

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I even got a page top for you \o/
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Post Post #3628 (isolation #174) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:38 am

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Why remove Ank?
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Post Post #3630 (isolation #175) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:43 am

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I think the only player that everyone thinks is town is me right now, but I'm right on majority of my list at worst.
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Post Post #3638 (isolation #176) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:58 am

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In post 3634, Xtoxm wrote:i just c+p your list and put it into random.org, and i can confidently state that this list is also mostly right at worst, as only 2 scum exist in a pool of 15 players
See, you get it.
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Post Post #3639 (isolation #177) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:00 am

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In post 3637, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:Sell me on everything below Ali.
Okay.
Anyone not below Ali is town.
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Post Post #3647 (isolation #178) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 3641, Dannflor wrote:Vedith can you engage with me on why you think I'm scum

I think you've scum read me in every game we've been in together regardless of either of our alignments

If you're town, I need to know you really believe the reasons you scum read me for here
It's because you don't take a stance on me.
Your posting doesn't seem town motivated.
Gut.
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Post Post #3648 (isolation #179) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:18 am

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In post 3640, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:That's a lot of scum.

Well I don't see your name in "town" list so if you don't mind I'll go ahead and

VOTE: Vedith
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Post Post #3654 (isolation #180) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:22 am

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I had 3 reasons.
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Post Post #3661 (isolation #181) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 3657, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3654, Vedith wrote:I had 3 reasons.
I'm aware.

I can't address gut

Why do my posts not have a town motivation from your pov
I don't know how to answer that without just saying they don't?
I think town you has a Scum or town read on me by now.
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Post Post #3669 (isolation #182) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:32 am

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I haven't played with you for well over a year.
You could be making that meta up for all I know.
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Post Post #3673 (isolation #183) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:33 am

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And what logic is it for me to put a Scum read on null because I've been wrong in the past?

If that's the case majority of the players here shouldn't be allowed to vote me.
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Post Post #3679 (isolation #184) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:35 am

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In post 3677, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
In post 3674, Ankamius wrote:Can we not lynch Vedith
It's fine he just said a lot of dumb things over the course of the game, we're not gonna feed him rope yet, I don't think
Like Shoshin being town?
How dumb of me.
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Post Post #3682 (isolation #185) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:37 am

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In post 3681, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:like ate is always nai
Yes, yes it is.
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Post Post #3686 (isolation #186) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:39 am

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You're just selective reading because you have a chip on your shoulder about me and I'm not sure why.
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Post Post #3690 (isolation #187) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 3685, Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Defense, your witness
So because you're a player that can get emotionally black mailed in a game it makes me dumb.
Okay, glad you're the smart one here \o/
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #188) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:41 am

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I mean, I can just go and shit post the entire game from here and spam the thread up.
Think I'm going to do this so you might as well lynch me. \o/
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Post Post #3694 (isolation #189) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:41 am

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In post 3691, Reiuji Utsuho wrote:
In post 3686, Vedith wrote:because you have a chip on your shoulder about me and I'm not sure why.
Gee I wonder why.
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Post Post #3698 (isolation #190) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:42 am

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Vedith \o/
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Post Post #3699 (isolation #191) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:43 am

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Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith Vedith
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Post Post #3700 (isolation #192) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:43 am

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\o/
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Post Post #3702 (isolation #193) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:43 am

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Hey look page top
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Post Post #3705 (isolation #194) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:43 am

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Post Post #3706 (isolation #195) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:44 am

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Fine I'll stop.
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Post Post #3712 (isolation #196) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:50 am

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When I try to get motivation to get back into this game it basically gets instantly shut down.
I lost a lot of motivation for this game from yesterday and I still think that Scum just sat back and let town Lynch Shoshin and they are getting away with it.

If Eagle is going to intentionally Piss me off and actively want to prevent me from playing I'll do everyone a favour and replace out.

I actually think DDL is town and I'd move him further up my list.

Replace out
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Post Post #3776 (isolation #197) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:48 am

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I'm allowed to stay in the game so I take back the /replace.
Won't happen again.
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Post Post #3778 (isolation #198) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:04 am

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I still think Xtomx for the lynch here.
The vote on me seemed a cop out.
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Post Post #3784 (isolation #199) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:53 am

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Why though?
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