BooneyToonz X: Boonin’ It In The Slums [TOWN WIN]

[Vorkuta]

First...
Well this is a huge amount of people I'm familiar with.

[Vorkuta]

Hi again to Abstract Nonsense, Dave, NC, RC, Vedith, and Chill.
Let's lynch RC for the homies yeah?

VOTE: RC Car

[Vorkuta]

well I've played with you, too

NC,

RC

, Vedith

People not paying attention are performer peeps. My RVS vote is now very serious.

[Vorkuta]

Would "

RC

" refer to

R

c

C

ar or

RC

car, as in '

R

emote

C

ontrol'?
This is a very serious question and will affect whether I trust this slot in the future.

[Vorkuta]

Goddamit Boon. Be more selective about who you allow in your gang.

[Vorkuta]

I’m gonna flex Performer’s signature at this one.

Based mod confirming that NC is Performer Posse.
Will hypertunnel after I get an answer to "RC"

[Vorkuta]

So out of curiosity- is it normal to """mass-claim""" early on in BooneyTunes?
Damn, I have to think about whether I buy any of this.

@The guys talking about the self-vote talk and filler- it's NAI.
RAS gets town points for the RVS analysis.

@NC- still disliking the Sheldon character?

[Vorkuta]

lets pl the stupid gimmick alt.

Still valid or have you reconsidered?

[Vorkuta]

una's claim is just a troll.

I... believe... one of you?

[Vorkuta]

why are you overly concerned

Quick and easy low-hanging-fruit mislynch?
Your PL vote would be valid if he were making Bazinga posts every post, but I see a normal player with his self-vote analysis.

[Vorkuta]

if he did it would be extremely grating and everyone would want him dead

So your PL has turned into a semi-serious (as serious as we can get 3 pages in) vote based on ^
I actually have difficulty objecting to this reasoning and hope sheldon himself will comment.

I can sheep, but RC still hasn't replied.

[Vorkuta]

Sorry Vedith, I only roll town
You're going to have to trust me on this

[Vorkuta]

This is a very serious question and will affect whether I trust this slot in the future.

Serious questions call for serious answers which warrant a lot of discussion. I buy it

[Vorkuta]

But I'm not

[Vorkuta]

I'll bite- what have I done radically differently in the first ~5 pages of my previous games?

[Vorkuta]

Shit you got me there.
Lemee coordinate with my performer peeps to see how I can get out of this to see what plan we can come up with.

Anything else?

[Vorkuta]

I just read some material

I mean if he read how I behaved in D4 of Game XXXX and is saying I'm playing differently in D1 (RVS) of BTX then indeed

[Vorkuta]

-I don't let naked scum reads on me slide. Period
-Are we really going to get serious 4 pages in? Can I troll around for a bit more?
-This is me caring so much??? No.
-This is also an opportunity for me to learn about unabombah

inb4- Vork why you getting all defensive and stuff?

[Vorkuta]

So I wasn't a huge fan of your defense being "but my playstlye hasn't changed!"

I'm not a huge fan of someone I've never seen claiming to be able to gauge my playstyle after only 4 pages in.

[Vorkuta]

Why do you want to troll around, why not start the game?

...

What's the point of this question?

It's not like I flip a switch or something. #86 was a semi-serious, semi-joke answer, and awestfie decided I was being 100% serious with it.

You are getting defensive

The point being?
I'd advise you to read the same """material""" that unabombah looked at if you want an insight in my playstyle and how I behave.
I believe that I can't function in full efficiency in a game if I'm being SR'd for completely BS reasons, so it's in my best interests to quash them ASAP so I can get along to doing more productive stuff in the future.

[Vorkuta]

The content was 100% serious.
The

manner

in which I presented the content was semi serious.

And you know that.

[Vorkuta]

1- No, I'm using your own quote to reply back to you.
Like what's the point of even asking me "why I want to troll around" for a bit?
There are like 10 other players here that are still more or less joking around as well, so like.... what is this even?

2-

Why would town vork ever care?

To see if there's a scum!NC that wants to get a potential freebie mislynch under the guise of a PL or not.

[Vorkuta]

but you shouldn't strike something through when it's the truth. What's the point of this post?

What's the point of your post telling me that my strikethrough was still valid and true?

to throw shade at me

We can play this game all day.

And I strikethrough things if they're "tongue-in-cheek" and "technically true" as I think it's a bit more """fun""" to insert a snarky comment here and there.

[Vorkuta]

You seem to have jumped to the conclusion I am town

Are you not?
It's not really a "conclusion"- just a premise I'm temporarily making.

case for town!sheldon and scum!nc aiming for a quick PL >>> case for scum!sheldon > case for scum theater NC & Sheldon > case for TvT sheldon & NC

[Vorkuta]

Aren't we supposed to be out of RVS?
Why are people still trolling and not being serious?

Paging the fun police of NC and awestfie

[Vorkuta]

Vorkuta what do you think of Last Knight?

Yes, I can read someone with a total of 3 posts.
Let's perform a very indepth analysis of his ISO shall we?

Spoiler:

Yeah, I'd vote Nero after the last Boon game.

VOTE: Nero Cain

Here he explicitly refers to his relationship with NC after his previous Boon game and makes a very compelling RVS reason, and I can relate to the "once bitten, twice shy" appeal, however I would have to read the entire game to make my judgement on that. Of course, this could be a mere scum!TLK pretense to get rid of a town!NC, but I'm going to need more interaction between them.

Well, I'm not super saint.

Here he is claiming to not be this role (that I had to wiki). Whether he plans to use it as a trap to try and trick someone into hammering him, or he's just referring to a previous game, or he's just throwing content out there is not for me to say.

And yeah I fucking hate Big Bang Theory

Here he provides a personal commentary on the TV show upon which Sheldon's gimmick character is based, potentially opening up the possibility to put votes on him for no reason, and to demonstrate his prior bias against the slot. I think this has several aspects to it, but I'm going to need more interaction between them to determine whether this is alignment indicative or mere fluff posting.

TL;DR- No, I can't read someone based on 3 posts.

[Vorkuta]

ftfy

next time can you bold the fixes because it actually took me a while to find what you did

No.

[Vorkuta]

Can I get a meta on NC?
Is he always 'Fun Police'?

[Vorkuta]

I mean you'd have to either know he was town or think that 43, 58 or 60 were townie posts

......no

>NC does PL stuff on ANYONE
>reason for PL doesn't hold (IMHO)
>I ask for confirmation whether it's still a PL thing or not

HAS SOMEHOW TURNED INTO

>vork thinks sheldon is town

[Vorkuta]

man, you are like super paranoid.

I swear it's obvious to literally everyone else that I was BSing with my ISO analysis of someone with 3 posts, none of which had any content.

[Vorkuta]

One could prob make the argument doing nothing but lulz trolling is against the spirit of the game

+1- playing

with

against

in the same game as a certain Not_Mafia was very painful.

[Vorkuta]

you are happy putting town!me top of the pack

I mean you'd have to either know he was town or think that 43, 58 or 60 were townie posts

......no

>NC does PL stuff on ANYONE
>reason for PL doesn't hold (IMHO)
>I ask for confirmation whether it's still a PL thing or not

HAS SOMEHOW TURNED INTO

>vork thinks sheldon is town

------

an RVS vote.

lets pl the stupid gimmick alt.

Such RVS

[Vorkuta]

I graciously accept the invitation into your town block.

[Vorkuta]

No, no- I insist.

[Vorkuta]

Do I update my read and in-depth ISO analysis on TLK, or do I wait until I get more posts?

[Vorkuta]

The shit I do for town points

[Vorkuta]

It's going to have to wait until RC gets back to me with a serious answer.

@NC- Does the fun police approve of our seriousness?

[Vorkuta]

Ayt, let's wake up people please and thank you.

Checked my Role-PM - it was for flavor.
Apparently I'm responsible for the Boon Babe-hideout.

-Can any previous BooneyTunes player comment on what this role might be?
-Can anyone who's previously played with UnaBombaH comment on whether he pulls this role stuff?

Also

@mod

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[Vorkuta]

I mean.. how do we re-ignite the game?
We had something decent going with NC/Awestie/Sheldon and yours truly, then it got overpowered by the very serious content, and here we are now.
Let's wagon someone?

[Vorkuta]

Why do you care?

Because I have a Role PM with a win condition, and I can't get to said win condition if the game is dead?

Aren't you pro-contentless troll game?

False dichotomy. As previously demonstrated- I'm more than capable of taking the game seriously, however I do enjoy the occasional troll post or two- it depends on the moment.
Right now, I'd like to tip the scales towards the more serious side of things.

[Vorkuta]

It depends on the mood of the day, plus is kind of early in the game- hell RCE hasn't even checked in yet. (hydra head)
Let's make today's mood more serious no?

[Vorkuta]

This is interesting because depending on the game I get really different advice.

I notice some people prefer to focus on the lurk/fluff voters early on in an attempt to get them to engage/interact/not lurk, while others prefer to scumhunt WITHIN active players, and hope that the lurkers will step it up or resolve themselves come D3 or something.

I don't think the wagon will go through because
-He'll just troll it off
-I doubt it'll get a majority
-I keep getting told to vote scum, and I have other scum reads.

[Vorkuta]

When it's in the future and it's 3~4 days before the deadline, in the middle of our dead serious wagon discussions, if he pulls this same shit then I will agree to policy lynch him.
Until then we ignore him and try not to feed the trolls too much. (guilty- I'm sorry ORZ)

[Vorkuta]

I'm reassured.

[Vorkuta]

NC- he said he'll switch on eventually ok?
Let's stop it with the "random lynching", as every player here is going to take it seriously IF there's something serious to take, and lay down the ground work.

[Vorkuta]

Can you get behind that?

[Vorkuta]

Lettuce get cereal now.
VOTE: NC
-I'd argue that his behavior is more anti-town than the "fluff" he wants to push.
-He's going for EASY mislynches.
- &Previous comments I made about him.

[Vorkuta]

Yes. Congratulations. You outed me based on my word choice. I concede. I promise to self-hammer when the wagon gets large enough. /s

This is me getting slightly frustrated, and NOT SCUM CLAIMING, just in case anyone is having any doubts

Like I swear, you not reading between the lines/reading the atmosphere just adds to my case.

[Vorkuta]

If I was scum I wouldn't be blatantly

Having been bit a few times before by veteran players pulling exactly this BS, I don't buy it anymore.

And isn't this at least hypocritical?

Mmm... I detect no contradictions between that and my several recent posts, so you're going to have explain a tad bit more on that.

[Vorkuta]

Let's stop this before this gets heated alright?
@NC- Dr EB promises to play the game, and it's clear that he's stopped being a fluffposting troll.
Let's drop the vote and scumhunt, UNLESS your PL has turned into a scum read, in which case kindly explain it.

@Dr Easy? No more escalating please and thank you.

And read the atmosphere you DEER

[Vorkuta]

No, I was subtly trying to tell him that today is less punny and more

cereal

serious than usual

[Vorkuta]

Everyone is some degree of “useless” on D1.

I can see where you're coming from BUT:
-I can RAD this and say "why bother- everyone just vote No Lynch and let's fast forward to the night stage"
-there are players that catch scum on D-1 and are ridiculously decent at it (Shoshin and RC kind of bragged about it with fancy percentages)

So that's no excuse to just lie down and roll over.

[Vorkuta]

Before I respond: Are you going to change your vote?

[Vorkuta]

My point is that both of your reasons for the PL on Dr EB is no longer valid, yet you're still sticking with it.

Seeing as THIS IS NO LONGER A POLICY LYNCH, you either
-now scum read him, for whatever reasons (tone/meta/gut/experience- anything is fine, but it needs to be explained) OR
-are scum trying to get that sweet sweet no information lynch that doesn't incriminate you

@Tchill- everything in your rant is a completely valid point- my only counter point is the relatively high D1 scum lynch %ages of other players.
HOWEVER- those points are no longer RELEVANT as DR EB is no longer a stupid monkey type of player.

[Vorkuta]

I’m a part of the boonty hunters since you obviously can’t recall. I’m the glorious IG-88. Why would I want my own kitchen destroyed. It’s made of the finest plastics Fisher Price could find, so you’d have to a do a lot of huffing and puffing to blow it down.

No. This stops.

What if Vork is just scum that knows bake and Shedldon are town?

Oh man, if you think they're bad now, you should check out our scumPT

[Vorkuta]

Tchill & Nero.
Stop sinking down to their level.

we should prob be lynching ceejay or maybe vork today

Indulge me: what's your Deer case?

[Vorkuta]

It doesn't harm- that's for sure. Meta read noted.

[Vorkuta]

Aside from my 100% very serious in-depth ISO analysis on you?
I got nothing.

Like your

and dave's

refusal of townblocks is valid, but we were (PAST TENSE) joking around with them.
Vedith and I have 1 completed

get the hint please

game with, and that's the mini2058 that I refer and will keep on referring back to.

[Vorkuta]

barely enough evidence to support any actual scum reads

So let's do stuff to generate evidence/information for D2 onwards.

Our fun conversations lead to learning opportunities!

I allow this (on the condition that there's at least 1 paragraph of substance preceding the fluffposting)

[Vorkuta]

we were (PAST TENSE) joking around

Now Vedith is going to see this and kick me out

he's your buddy. Also an active lurker.

You got "buddy" from where exactly?
He literally asked me about TLK once, and that's pretty much it

[Vorkuta]

Vjörk is definitely a keeper

Good luck either typing the ö every single time, or scrolling back up to try and copy paste it.

I'm independently scum reading you two

So your case on Deer is.... post count and online time? Is there a meta read followup because that seems weak to me.

[Vorkuta]

In post 261, Tchill13 wrote:
You're defending just to defend


bingo. That's what makes me think he's scum going for the town cred.

You guys read my posts right? But ok fine- I'll repeat the same thing again.

I have almost no problem with a PL on OBV!TROLL/100%FLUFF slots.
However, NEITHER of the slots (sheldon/drEB) satisfy that criteria.
Which means your PL reasons are no longer valid.

THUS- I am not "defending" them, so much as "attacking" you for ^
I have almost no reads on the slots (so far), but that's completely irrelevant to my current stance and this argument.

[Vorkuta]

I find him to be very fence sitty.

My NC push is fence-sitty.
My case for a scum!NC, the one that I'm actively pushing for, is fence-sitty.
k

[Vorkuta]

is a weird way to describe something you think that SCUM is doing

Yeah... hence why I later on explicitly state that I am SCUM READING you.

And how is it even anti-town? If anything me wanting content in the game and not fluff posts/posters is pro-town.

There's a point after which your actions to

pushing ppl to play the game

hit diminishing returns, and eventually turn into a negative for town.
We've established that these are no longer 100% fluff posters.
Why are you concerns no longer alleviated, and why do you continue with the push on them?

Your further activity in this direction IS anti-town, as it
-detracts from actual scum hunting (like you're trying to do now, now that you're more focused on me/ceejay instead of DR EB)
-is more of a personal vendetta
-just results in a cycle of more and more butthurt between everyone.

[Vorkuta]

should have moved my vote after Sheldon. Did you ever respond to that?

Sorry I didn't.
Answer: The next person you want to PRESSURE.

You keep saying EB and Sheldon are mislynches and when I call you on you are just like "that's not what that means!"

You are adamantly focused of my

mis

use of the word "mislynch" even though I'm pretty damn sure YOU KNOW perfectly well the context in which I mean the word.
If you require clarification, I mean "mislynches" as in "lynchbait" or "easy lynches that give no information but will take little effort to get support for them"

[Vorkuta]

NC's push on you is a vendetta push?

On Dr. EB yes.
On me? No- this is NC scumhunting.

[Vorkuta]

and you saw an opportunity to push a wagon that you thought was gonna be EZ.

-My push on you WAS BEFORE Dr bake said that
-Yes. I- a very experienced

10 whole games

know for a fact that with Dr EB's help

the universal town read and authority figure

, I can drive a wagon on NC straight to hammer town. /s
In what universe is this an argument? In what universe does any!vork think that an NC wagon is an EZ wagon to push?

[Vorkuta]

if I'm scum I can't scumhunting. Thanks for letting them know your scum read is fake.

Stop.
Taking my words out of context is NOT HELPING your case at all. I've lost track of how many times you're trying to pull this on me.
You know PERFECTLY WELL that there is "scumhunting" activity, which describes your attitude/approach/reasoning towards me (and it's well within your scumrange to fake that), and that there's "BS" activity- which is what describes your approach towards sheldon/drEB

my "push" on EB is a lol rando vote when I was trolling about this game being contentless

I'm too lazy to count the amount of times I'm repeating this exact same thing.

The push is no longer valid.

[Vorkuta]

Uh, on an opportunistic scum!vork universe?

This "opportunism" is the path of MOST resistance, and the exact opposite of an "EZ" lynch.
That doesn't hold.

[Vorkuta]

Up until EZB said he'd vote me you've sat on your RC RVS

There is difference between a "VOTE" and a "PUSH".
A vote is NOT a direct prerequisite for a push.

I need time to properly develop a case (and simultaneously push), and where my vote is WHILE the process is taking place is almost completely irrelevant.
The fact that I voted does not mark the START of a push.

[Vorkuta]

Aren't I the leading wagon?

How many posts of back and forth do we have? How much of a fight do you put up? You're the leading wagon

because people are lurksacks and should play the game

as a result of my blood, sweat, and tears, and not because you are an "EZ PUSH"

[Vorkuta]

Also- are you actually?

@MOD

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つGIFF VC (and flavor)

[Vorkuta]

I love being deliberately misinterpreted. Let's do this ONCE AGAIN shall we?

that you are trying to play up the argument between EB and I.

Your "INVALID PUSH" on EB, not your "argument"

And claiming that I'm somehow anti-town b/c I wanted ppl to play the game and not troll so much.

You are anti-town for BEING STUBBORN on people who have agreed to stop trolling.

[Vorkuta]

like no way you think im legit pushing this guy.

Are you SERIOUSLY downplaying that push right now?
No. No. You do not get to erase history and say "nah LAWLSIES" ESPECIALLY after your hardline stance on seriousness this game.

I mean just lol if you think I have to resort to policy lynches as scum.

Tactic Proven to have a 0% Success Rate

And reply to my actual point- here, I'll rephrase it in simple Y/N format for you:
Your policy lynch reason is no longer valid: Y/N?
You are still pursuing/hounding slots who have proven that they can play seriously: Y/N?

[Vorkuta]

It's like you guys are having two different arguments with each other. Because neither of you understand what the other is saying.

Thank you- I'm glad someone from the side feels the same way.
He's deliberately and maliciously misinterpreted my word choice like 5 times which makes me strongly suspect that NC is NOT acting in good faith and is agenda driven with his push on me.

[Vorkuta]

how am I doing this again? lol

Everytime you continue a push on sheldon and EB AFTER they've made posts that were not 100% memes.

how has EB "proven" this? He still has 0% content and only promised to post content later on.

ISO the guy- there's a clear "switch" when he turns on and drops the trolling

before turning it back on again

#232, #236, #241, #244, #247, #260, #278.
He's demonstrated the intent/desire/ability to play the game properly.

not like this is loaded

TL;DR "no, I no longer have grounds to policy vote Dr. EB"

What does it feel like to have words put in your mouth?

I still feel like you are scum that knew Sheldon and EZB were town

When have I made anything greater than an ASSUMPTION/PREMISE that would imply hard knowledge?

[Vorkuta]

translation: I'm chainsaw defending them for the town cred.

THUS- I am not "defending" them, so much as "attacking" you for ^

but it's an assumption that you don't have any hard evidence for unless you are scum.

TL;DR- anyone who has town reads D1 is scum. Hi Vedith- looks like your townblock doesn't work out.

and I'm saying this just because I know this will get taken out of context- I DO NOT have ANY EXPLICIT READS for either sheldon or dreb as of this time

[Vorkuta]

I town read TLK's mediator "let's play nice" stance on things btw.
There's my official stance, now that a few people have been asking.

Now let me get back in the dirt with NC.

[Vorkuta]

For what it's worth, I also think the show went extremely downhill in its later seasons. (but haven't watched it in its entirety, just the random 3~4 episodes here and there).

oh no this post is a fluff post with no meat in it!!

[Vorkuta]

Game solved guys.

Damned apple users.

I just pulled another one of these lucky D1 scum-callouts

Oh man what a play.

Now /s (seeing as you trifecta'd me)
What is the so-called

I just read some material on Vorkuta.

From which you're basing your scum read on me from?

[Vorkuta]

Gonna put my trust in Nero

VOTE: Vortuka

I count that as 5 votes

VOTE: vorkuta

L-1. Please claim.

Wtf you didn't even change your vote on me.
What is this- a Performer Posse extortion tactic??

*Looks at deadline*
Not claiming shit

[Vorkuta]

NC is the only person who's (faultily) argued for a case on me.

The rest of you are what- just sheeping?
Provide arguments, or get off the wagon.

[Vorkuta]

@mod

- THIS IS UNOFICIAL AND NOT AN IMPERSONATION

Because it's taking Boon forever

Spoiler:

Ceejay: #340 unvoted
TLK: #327 unvoted
Tchill: #378 Vork
Abstract: #370 NC
Dave: never voted
Sheldon: #368 Vork
Vedith: #72 Sheldon
RAS: never voted
Unabombah: #343 Vork
RC: #14 NC
awestfie: #49 ceejay
DR. EB: #351 NC
Xtoxic: #24 Sheldon
NC: #332 Vork
Vork: #242 NC

Vork

: Tchill, Sheldon, Una, NC (4)

NC

: Vork, RC, DR.EB, AbstractNonsence (4)

Sheldon

: Xtoxic, Vedith, (2)

Ceejay

: awestfie (1)

NotVoting

: Ceejay,TLK,Dave,RAS (4)

Y’all lucky I’m giving any vote counts at all!

[Vorkuta]

Bruh, you better convince people to get off your wagon better than that. Dr EB hammered someone at L-1 last time to accelerate the game. He might not do it this time, but still.

Oh boy.... that's some optimal town-play right there.

Either way- these guys are high on something with their vote counts.
Or Tchill and Una think that voting for me several times in a row actually does something.

[Vorkuta]

Y’all lucky I’m giving any vote counts at all!

new game mode- DIY mafia.

[Vorkuta]

Boon- be honest.
Did you copy paste mine into your template and just fix the names?

Obviously...but like, I was already planning on doing it now anyways, and I just sat down at the coffee shop.

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: vorkuta

L-1. Please claim.

Like omfgwtf even is this.
I claim TFPTSLBOOIA

[Vorkuta]

I think it's just a thread clog tbh and the fact it's being allowed to dominate the game pings me.

I mean on a re-read of the thing, it's frustrating to me as well, and I was really confused why very few people were offering

non-troll

input/commentary.

BUT for what its worth it got the game state into something better than early D-1 RVS/fluff posting so I'll take it.

[Vorkuta]

@Nero- your're getting a tiny bit better with understanding the true essence of my argument, so I'll give you

imaginary

points for that.

Like come on- would scum!vork defend an RVS/TROLL wagon on scum!sheldon/scum!DrEB with *insert deadline here* time to go?

Your "defending potential Lylo liabilities" accusation at me pretty much implies that you think they will be useless lurksacks until Lylo.
That is and will not be the case

the promised me that in the scumPT

HOWEVER- if you want to change your reason for voting for Sheldon was because of scummy posting/reactions, THEN I would have fewer problems with that.
I still think you're scum, but prolly not the D1 lynch.

[Vorkuta]

There he gets to shake the hands of the Mayor, and his powerful penguin-friend

Lil Penguin were found dead

VOTE: UnaBombah

also actual in-game reasons

[Vorkuta]

Una is cool and should not be wagonned?
NC are you even seeing this? This is so much better than my "sheldon/DrEB are not trolls and should not be wagonned" /s

you'd rather try to lynch

why does this phrasing seem loaded af?

Once una gets in here and convinces me that he's cool, I'll go to my next strongest case.

[Vorkuta]

pls answer

Let's wagon someone?

When you said this what did you expect to happen?

Discussion.
Whether or not the wagon was going to go through was irrelevant- the circumstances/reasons for why people jumped on a wagon or a counter wagon, blah blah blah = solving.

Like regardless of how, we're now in a gamestate with "3" wagons (vork, NC, sheldon) and the scum hunting is really ramping up.
So mission more or less accomplished

you can get off me now please and thank you

It's a better way to get things rolling than "lynch all lurkers" IMHO.

[Vorkuta]

Because this looks like you just assessed the safest wagon to hop on and did it.

Una is a.... wagon?
You guys

[Vorkuta]

I think NC is just disagreeing with me only for the sake of disagreeing at this point.

[Vorkuta]

It's due to the weird way that [post] tags work.

Wait wait wait wait

Are we for real here?

[Vorkuta]

mod intervention?

[Vorkuta]

He's town, read between the lines.

Can you be any more subtle?

[Vorkuta]

We did, we are sealing our love with a Vork lynch.

No.

There are other players who have displayed scummier behavior.
There are other lurkers who haven't gotten their time in the spotlight

NC not paying attention to this is hilarious

My actions have been pro-town, with the exception of "defending myself" to NC's stupid tunneling.
So no.

[Vorkuta]

Like NOW that your sheldon push has turned FROM "PL this useless gimmicky alt" to "Sheldon sounds scum", I am """fine""" with it.
I don't know whether I agree/disagree with a scum!sheldon case, but that's secondary.

[Vorkuta]

active lurking Vork?

*Mobileposting

[Vorkuta]

I really dislike how almost half the people on my wagon haven't explained their vote on me, and the ones that did

*coughs*nc*coughs

have done it oh so horribly.
It's ridiculous, yet I'm hesitant to say "scum" or not.

[Vorkuta]

do get angry when they are being scum read.

I it wasn't "anger" so much as mild frustration coupled with the desire to "NO U".

Like NC- we had a game together before (Autumn's Farewell) where I was lynched D2 for being useless and passive.
Can you "provide" differences between vork that game and vork this game?

[Vorkuta]

This is nothing more than busy work.

vork- "Hey NC, I think your agenda towards me is agenda-driven and not townie of you- can you POSSIBLY HELP ME SEE why town!NC might play this way?"
NC- "nah"

[Vorkuta]

Is NC actually scumhunting by trying to find slips in EXACT WORDS/PHRASING?
Like is this his playstyle? sure not what I remember from our last game.

[Vorkuta]

I don't care how I look. He's town and Vork is scum.

Oh you'll look quite bad when I flip town.

[Vorkuta]

He's town, read between the lines.

Can you be any more subtle?

Apparently not

[Vorkuta]

I have to think about this.

VOTE: Sheldon Cooper Phd

lets pl the stupid gimmick alt.

[Vorkuta]

This seems a bit far-fetched.

if you're talking to me

Like that post is basically the entire reason why I got into an argument with NC in the first place.
So now I'm having difficulty going back and reading everything NC said while arguing WITH the new info that NC and sheldon are mason buds.
Is it bad that I'm thinking I was baited into this?

[Vorkuta]

that can and will be solved later.

We have 2x2 =4 Masonbuds, a miller, an ascetic, a few lurkers, and only Boon knows what in this game that will """solve itself later""", and I am very hesitant about letting that slide.

[Vorkuta]

More importantly, do you believe one of the Mason teams are scum?

Is it bad that I want to hail-mary lynch one in a pair in the hopes of resolving the other one for good?
Wait. This is a winning play.

[Vorkuta]

Vork is almost definitely stupid town.

I'll.... take what I can get I suppose.

[Vorkuta]

Vork vote stays until you convince me he's the wrong lynch today.

I provide more value to town alive than dead, and my actions so far have been extremely pro-town. Simple as that.

[Vorkuta]

Can confirm- will not back.

[Vorkuta]

like a Thought Bank?

What are those?

[Vorkuta]

A PT you write notes in

o_0

TIL

Argument understood.

Then... why didn't you claim "thoughbank" to try and protect the masonry from being outed?

[Vorkuta]

You've yet to make a statement that doesn't work both ways.

Can confirm- tried to call out NC on it here and there as well.

[Vorkuta]

No intent to hammer on this.
They have more town points than scum points unlike other people.

[Vorkuta]

Oh I get to butt heads with NC yet again. What joy.

[Vorkuta]

Their ISO doesn't read scum and

argument from mod setupspec

I accept their claim.

[Vorkuta]

My bet is on proper symbiote

Roles like these are why I wanted a mass claim early on though.

[Vorkuta]

I mean I was on una yesterday and he didn't speak up so
VOTE: Una

As Vorkuta would say, It was definitely not sarcasm.

no u

[Vorkuta]

Ok can we all properly mass claim?
There has to be some sort of combination we can use here, and this "L-1, claim, wtf no" cycle is like pulling teeth.

[Vorkuta]

Look-we're going to do a mass claim anyway, but if we do it NOW, we have much more to work with.
I mean, ok not "NOW" but like in a bit when everyone checks in

and rc says literally anything

Annnnnndddd that hard guilty is?

It's me.

erm

13p game with 4 scum

HMMMMMM

[Vorkuta]

Also is it possible Vedith crumbed anything?
I can't find stuff but I'm bad so..

[Vorkuta]

So out of curiosity- is it normal to """mass-claim""" early on in BooneyTunes?

Eh kinda hinted at that, but I was too busy/not confident enough that this would be the optimal play.
Now I am.

Start the mass claim, claim vork

I'm fine with this BUT

I mean, ok not "NOW" but like in a bit when everyone checks in and rc says literally anything

Also I have a slight suspicion NC just wants me to claim and then he'll be like "kthnx, massclaim over"

[Vorkuta]

Just lynch the guilty and now give scum a roadmap to our useful prs.

This feels surface level, and the guilty is probably going to have 50 arguments against the "guilty" anyway.

[Vorkuta]

but don't you want to hear Vork's claim?

Yeah NC doesn't care- he just wants my claim.

Yeah it is late af

Come join

us

me in a better time zone

[Vorkuta]

no reason not to be outing his made up guilty

....really?

[Vorkuta]

Also

Annnnnndddd that hard guilty is?

It's me.

[Vorkuta]

Why would we not lynch the guilty?

Why is MC the optimal play today?

Are you naive enough to think that once RAS, our "confirmed mason-cop hybrid" says "X is guilty", everyone will vote X WITHOUT hearing their end of the story?
I want to hear everyone's claims first, preferably BEFORE giving people wiggle room to play around a guilty.

Scenario A:
-RAS: X is guilty
-X: "oh I'm *insert black magic role that explains everything*" or "no its RAS"

Scenario B: massclaim
-X claims something
-RAS: X is guilty
-X: performs gymnastics for us to see

B is more optimal is it not?

awestfie's my mason buddy, Vork.

thatsthejoke.jpg

[Vorkuta]

Oh boy here comes NC with his amazing powers to twist and turn my words into whatever suits him at the moment.
Have at me

[Vorkuta]

Unabombah - commuter

You've uhh... read his ISO and still take that seriously?

Ras - mason

+ something that allegedly hard guilties?

i haven't twisted anything ever.

Look.
I can disagree and get into a nice argument with you because I have the grounds to do so.
OR I can let this drop, and try to progress the game in a PROPER fashion.
Please stop trying to bait/engage me into a battle.

[Vorkuta]

Sounds like you know what's going to happen.

twisting right there

I'm trying to tap into my vast mafia experience to try and PREVENT bullshit that's previously happened to me.
It's not the same thing as "knowing what's going to happen".

[Vorkuta]

Pick a game, any game.

I'm pretty sure I've justified and somewhat explained my reasoning for a massclaim being optimal.
INSTEAD of focusing on my personal reasons for trying to push it,
WHY DON'T WE discuss the pros and cons for a massclaim IN THIS PARTICULAR GAME?

[Vorkuta]

No one does 13p 4 scum in the history of ever.

no u

Additional boonbank takes a variant slot.

This needs to stop.
If someone is going to fakeclaim fancy/extravagant, don't give them """guidelines""" on how to properly build a potential role.
We see if there are discrepancies and this stuff AFTER the claim

[Vorkuta]

......he was in a 13p 4s game with me, Vedith, FL, S_S, and whoever I'm forgetting.
Thatsthejoke.jpg

[Vorkuta]

NINJA'D

This is open knowledge for the people that played BTE where we had this exact scenario.

Yes but IFF there are lazy/"BTE experience-less" scum in here, it's better to not spoonfeed them?

Not for me to take seriously

But the rest of the game you do take seriously yes?

[Vorkuta]

the Baezu side of AN.

Yeah... I'd hate to break something to you but that's not gonna happen

[Vorkuta]

Ayt so I have a few more takers for "massclaim is dumb vork", and not too many for "hey the mass claim might not be too bad".

I'll wait for the others to check in, but I'm getting the feeling that... no.
I'll be really mad and rub it in people's faces if we lose 2 PR's before then so I hope my personal appeal could slightly help tip the scales in my favor.

[Vorkuta]

Yeah- worst case scenario.

[Vorkuta]

WTF else did you think I was saying/implying with that?

[Vorkuta]

Yeah only mass claim the day before potential lylo. Don't give scum more information... Sheesh.

I approve /s

Like honestly guys- how many games have you played where you looked at the setup AFTER a game to find some cool combo that COULD'VE been used?
Or you discover a potential combo DURING Lylo, when you can't trust the guy claiming to have the PR that complements yours?

You guys get the spirit of what I'm trying to say

Let's try no?

[Vorkuta]

Which IMHO only adds to my ever growing list of reasons for a massclaim!

[Vorkuta]

Rc gets to say something before we hammer though right?

[Vorkuta]

What even is this role

so do we mass claim?

[Vorkuta]

Did we hammer the guy without even giving RC anything to say, and because RAS pulled fake-result shenanigans??

[Vorkuta]

The catchup was a roller coaster ride, so I wanted to see if I TL;DR'd it properly and whether anyone else has.... "thoughts" about RAS's actions.

pedit- like ^

[Vorkuta]

So how do we explain the PT/quote slip now?

[Vorkuta]

Also, both of you should full claim.

This is rich. I'm slightly butthurt.

[Vorkuta]

something important

#biased modding

So are we massclaiming today?
Or are we going for our 'guilty' and postponing the MC until Lylo?

[Vorkuta]

Nice attempt at a case una. but no.

-While I DO require my "breadcrumbs" to be as subtle as a brick falling on my head, my "scum buddies" would probably pick up things that are much much more subtle.
-Does a traitor have to ""crumb"", or does a traitor have to push easy ""mislynches"" to help fellow scum?

IF ANYTHING, this is more evidence towards a scum!NC and people ON my wagon.

[Vorkuta]

Oh no.... no 1v1 for me?

Hey- I've been part of a game where scum had a traitor who didn't crumb at all whatsoever, so I'm skeptical.
And his ISO doesn't make any mention of RC AT ALL.
You know... the guy he actually WANTS to contact. So you don't have a case.

[Vorkuta]

you forgot to "adjust" your stance

Just like I didn't "adjust" my stance when arguing with nc.

He wanted to help his fellow scum bretheren by going for an easy mislynch in yours truly.

[Vorkuta]

Why would ceejay think rc is "the guy he actually wants to contact"?

The guy that actually flipped red?
Your case that "ceejay was trying to contact scum!vork" has an implicit assumption that "vork is scum".
Your case doesn't stand as ceejay obviously wasn't trying to contact conf!scum.

Also- I'm assuming RC (both players) are just sliiightly

only a tiny bit

better/more experienced than I am and would be MUCH easier to "crumb" to.

It has no relevance whatsoever.
People play their roles differently.

These are 2 different points
-Did ceejay crumb (AT ALL)?
-If he did, ceejay crumb TO scum!Vork in particular?
I'm explaining that I don't even think he CRUMBED at all, and EVEN IF HE DID, it sure as hell wasn't in my direction (instead opting for a mislynch attempt).

You trying to stop the momentum of this before anything even happens makes no sense from town!Vorkuta PoV.
Or do you mean to discredit the posts ceejay CLEARLY directed as crumbs towards TLK?

That's how vork plays. If I see BS, I "hatchet it" at the source and the second I see it- plus this is an attack on town!Vork. Town!Vork defends himself.

I'm accusing you of
-cherry picking and bending the facts a bit
-making too many assumptions for me to be comfortable with

If you have a scum!TLK case, this can be an ADDITIONAL cherry on top, but cannot be the main meat of it.

[Vorkuta]

It probably is, but the question is: do we mass claim today or not, and I've been getting "semi-troll" answers on that
Like why is today any different from yesterday in terms of MC?

[Vorkuta]

I understood everything that just happened. /s

Anyway- I'm the inside man with a plan.

[Vorkuta]

I claim JK

N1- NC
N2- RAS

I'd popcorn over to tchill but if someone likes another order more then... meh

[Vorkuta]

pedit- *insert insult at NC here*

I'm pretty sure my role explains my very quick desire for a MC as I had absolutely no idea whether/if I'd be obstructing someone's usefulness

[Vorkuta]

Yes- no frills/modifiers jail keeper

but I still think his play has been a pile of dung.

no u

[Vorkuta]

NC is going to get mad at you if your next post doesn't explicitly have your role in it so how lucky do you feel?

Seeing as you have something for us, I'm going to go with a soft investigative like tracker or whatnot

[Vorkuta]

No no no no.... The informed portion should've come last......

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see NC when his fuse completely burns out
IMGspoiler

Spoiler:

[Vorkuta]

So which variation of vanilla cop is this then?

[Vorkuta]

You're NOT a neapolitan (gets VT or NOT VT) but you get Vanilla/Not-Vanilla...

[Vorkuta]

Oh ok in the "no-modifiers" sense (like I'm a VANILLA JK)

[Vorkuta]

Gotcha. So for all intents and purposes, you can't do anything useful with your Night Action anymore

[Vorkuta]

VOTE: Tchill
This is a scum utility roll period.

[Vorkuta]

We're voting my guilty today. Also Tchill is town.

-"odd night"
-D3
-guy has 4 results for us

[Vorkuta]

You think too highly of me una- I'm just bad

What is this.....even...?

Also Tchill is town.

-yesterday's "gambit"
-his guilty today

[Vorkuta]

*grumbles*
UNVOTE:

TLK gets to check in before we hammer

[Vorkuta]

I'm checking Sheldon, but he's also getting shot.

What's the uh.... point?

Anyway- why would I JK una when he can commute out of town?
I don't see the reasoning

[Vorkuta]

intent to hammer
But never have I ever seen a game "so solved" by this point in time, so you'll pardon me for waiting/wanting a discussion.

[Vorkuta]

There's no scenario where TLK doesn't get lynched today

Yes- 100% agree.
UNLESS something major/gamethrowey/180 happens
I just think it's a dick move to hammer someone who hasn't even checked in today.

and there's next to no value in waiting.

I mean- tchill decided to reconsider his night actions. That's something.
We might have some more moments of inspiration no?

[Vorkuta]

Not even on someone who there's no downside in JKing?
I'd still like to take a chance and maybe prevent an NK

[Vorkuta]

One issue.
Dave hasn't EXPLICITLY claimed vig.
I know I'm being a buzzkill and unnecessarily dragging out the game but like.... I don't want to be "that guy".

Also this implies that una's push on me is just wrong!town instead of scum, and I'd like to explore that for at least half a second.

[Vorkuta]

.........I hate you guys and how you're pressuring me into doing this. I want this on record
VOTE: TLK

[Vorkuta]

WHAT EVEN IS THIS HOW ON EARTH DO NONE OF YOU LIKE WHAT THE LIKE

[Vorkuta]

UNVOTE: I was bullied

[Vorkuta]

Not that it changes anything

[Vorkuta]

So this is an amazing game where we had scum sell out fellow scum, who SLIPPED and had a VT cover for them by claiming mason, and now this.

[Vorkuta]

Appreciate you finally voting

........
I have nothing but rage and swear words for you

[Vorkuta]

One dsy, I will re read this game and understand.... something.
That day is long in the future.

Great game!
Great mod!

[Vorkuta]

this was a sham and not a fair game.

*cue sad music*