Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[Creature]

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Whatever

VOTE: 8 ball

[Creature]

Hi

Hello from the other side

[Creature]

Is it that me/nancefloor is SvS?

Go fuck yourself, RC.

Please mind your language.

(Also please post from the correct account)

Sorry RC.

I politely request you to copulate your own self, RC.

[Creature]

Explain how you got that from four posts.

because I'm pretty handsome

[Creature]

why arent we rvsing lmao

VOTE: OkaPoka

[Creature]

Explain how you got that from four posts.

because I'm pretty handsome

[Creature]

???

[Creature]

I now have 4 reads.

I now have 4 lockscum reads.

[Creature]

whats the whole 8-ball rush about

[Creature]

dab dee

dab daa

[Creature]

3 OkaPoka votes in retaliation to him voting me is interesting.

didn't notice he voted you at the time.

[Creature]

creature is always town
except when he's not

This

[Creature]

i only bring up creature's post activity when pocketing him

[Creature]

Page 5 I'm skipping all that Nanceflour-Taily stuff

[Creature]

Shoshin

:/

[Creature]

but like, is Time Devil one of them?

I think not.

[Creature]

ooh, am i one?

No, I don't think.

[Creature]

I now have 4 reads.

I now have 4 lockscum reads.

i miss having votes on me

but like, is

Time Devil

one of them?

Nope!

Oh wait, I think I saw your name somewhere.

[Creature]

Halo

[Creature]

What's going on?

[Creature]

Conf can you change avatars pls ty

+1

Yeah, it’s kind of weirding me out, I keep having to remind myself, my account wasn’t hacked.

Actually, keep it lol

[Creature]

Yey Ankamius is in

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Can't wait to be quoted.

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From where should I catch up?

[Creature]

Will the real town please stand up?

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Hey Nanceflour, how are you doing?

[Creature]

Will the real town please stand up?

hi i'm town so you should start calling me scum

I don't think you're scum though

[Creature]

Love when secret alts show up to be useless.

[Creature]

creature where is ur signature spam post catchup

Dunno, I wanted this to spice up first.

[Creature]

Ankle is town

[Creature]

Ffs starting a bad day

[Creature]

Creature do you have reads in more than just me atm

I'm regathering reads

[Creature]

I forgot how little fun being town is in most playerlist on this site.

I'm trying to not be caught with my mobile on.

[Creature]

I'm here

I think I got time now

[Creature]

What's up?

[Creature]

~Nancy the frustrated

:/

[Creature]

lol wow thats a pretty solid list.

Look at how flavor is also in this list, btdubs.

Are you okay?

[Creature]

Taly town

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RC probtown too

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Inclined to say Time Devil is town too

[Creature]

Hot take: mbaki is scum

[Creature]

lol wow thats a pretty solid list.

Look at how flavor is also in this list, btdubs.

Are you okay?

what do you mean beetlejuice?

This is suuuuper aggressive.

[Creature]

Dannflor

replaces NanceFloor

NanceFloor replaces Dannflor

lolNancy

[Creature]

Hey Taly, any interesting page(s) I should look into?

[Creature]

This is the problem, Taly. Overkill posts some terrible LHF posts. Then Nancy replies with some terrible LHF reads and responses. Meanwhile, she's calling out other terrible LHF posters.

This is readable, yes, but it's not fun to play games like this.

This looks fair.

[Creature]

VOTE: Time Devil

I can’t see how this is town.

Why?

[Creature]

*scribbles in notes: "how do i approach or engage with creature and clemency to read them more effectively"*

How do I approach a bear without getting attacked?

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@Taly, I was being tunnelled in that game by Fire and wanted to avoid a temp ban. I rep’d out here for the exact reasons I claimed. And if you would bother to read DnD mafia game, I seriously doubt you’d be sr us for it. And fyi, at least Math wasn’t actively antagonizing RC like FL was, so I really don’t see how the two situations have anything at all in common.

Like I think you’ve got it wrongly stuck in your head that AtE is scum indicative for me, it’s not. I don’t fake my emotions and the replace out should be correctly viewed as NAI.

I need more than two browsers. :/

or use an anon window.

[Creature]

idgi[/quote]
Why are you jumpy?

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I have a small bit over 100 games onsite.

Woah

[Creature]

But I havent played since I left 18 months or so ago.

Gonna find you then

[Creature]

I just realized I have eight townreads

Who?

[Creature]

Inclined to say Time Devil is town too

Why?

This seems to be town!TL

[Creature]

{RC}
{TD, Chennis, Taly}
{

Okapoka

}
{MBaki,

BEF

, Shadowless}

other people

?

[Creature]

Hot take: mbaki is scum

Why? Because of that list?

He seemed underwhelming

[Creature]

Anyway, Creature may be town.

"may"

[Creature]

Vote Count 1.2.6

OkaPoka (3): Creature, BrightEyedFish, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2): OkaPoka, Confirmation Bias
Time Devil (1): NanceFloor
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius
chennisden (1): Fuscosco

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Shoshin, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

UNVOTE:

This is stagnant.

[Creature]

chennisden is town

[Creature]

Don't lynch
RadiantCowbells
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Ankamius
Creature
Taly
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
chennisden

The rest can all die imo

[Creature]

though I have some I'd rather not lynch as they're more likely to be 8ball

[Creature]

Flavor Leaf seemed pretty rad

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My butt is town because it's pretty obvious you're antispew anyway unless scum got town going to assume you have nothing else to do it again of the most interesting element from the game.

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Hello

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imo D1 scum lynches are antitown

Wouldn't be surprised if it was a massive bus.

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Actually I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't a bus.

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Fuscosco (7): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor, OkaPoka, BrightEyedFish, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish

[Creature]

I don’t really know how this is useful unless you have some theories on who bussed.

I was hoping to sort this right now.

[Creature]

Hello

[Creature]

Just had my first lone school lunch this year. How are you all doing?

[Creature]

I just replaced in. What's going on?

[Creature]

Can someone catch me up on what happened so far?

[Creature]

I just replaced in.

[Creature]

I had a very rough day

Been having rough mafia days lately.

[Creature]

I had a very rough day

Been having rough mafia days lately.

Try getting mislynched at LYLO before you cast a vote or make a single post, now that’s what I’d call “rough”.

I've gone worse.

[Creature]

Creature has been signup banned for one month for intentionally getting himself modkilled in Sam and Fuzzy Mash by character claiming while expressing awareness that this was against the rules and intent to do it again in the future.

lol

What I called rough.

[Creature]

That game sucked regardless of the outcome.

[Creature]

Dann, Ank, Taly, Titus. Aside from myself and RC (and a couple edge people), you are the only non-LHF in this lobby. All 4 of you have independently come to the conclusion I'm town. All 4 of you have prior experience of me, and at least 3 of you have played with both of my alignments - I don't think Dann's seen my scum game iirc. Do you not see why its an issue that RC has me as lock scum here? Either I pocketed all 4 of you, or he is very probably wolf. Which of those do you think is more likely?

Mbaki is town

[Creature]

wait

when is being the 5th best player on ms an insult

I'd happily take that spot as consolation.

[Creature]

My towngames keep sucking lately.

[Creature]

My towngames keep sucking lately.

I'm glad I used reddit and left it pretty early, made me realise that.

[Creature]

creature/chemist pairing feels like an afterthought/last ones left in the pool

anyone else?

I think we're pretty much a T-T pair.

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Dann, Ank, Taly, Titus. Aside from myself and RC (and a couple edge people), you are the only non-LHF in this lobby. All 4 of you have independently come to the conclusion I'm town. All 4 of you have prior experience of me, and at least 3 of you have played with both of my alignments - I don't think Dann's seen my scum game iirc. Do you not see why its an issue that RC has me as lock scum here? Either I pocketed all 4 of you, or he is very probably wolf. Which of those do you think is more likely?

Mbaki is town

unfortunately friend i still have you as wolf

What was your beef with my predecessor?

[Creature]

creature who i s scum

idk, but I'm occasionally posting my townreads.

[Creature]

first impulse is to lynch chennis x titus

I can go with that.

[Creature]

I still trust my ability to read Ank, so she's town.

[Creature]

I suspect Clemency is scum from that pairing.

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i think scum are mostly paired with people we don't want to lynch, yeah.

That's why I think it makes Clemency scum and Chem-me T-T.

[Creature]

i do think chemist is town and i'm surprised that i'm the only one who thinks that.

You're not alone.

[Creature]

do people just not enjoy playing mafia or something

Lately that's what has been happening to me.

Been trying to revert it now.

[Creature]

Thought RC was talking about the Avengers movie

[Creature]

what does obv town mean

Obviously-bald-virgin town

[Creature]

if you subtract meta knowledge about my scum play being good i don't think a single person in this game ever so much as considers my slot as scum.

You're paired with scum though.

[Creature]

What do you think about Over + Clem being scum?

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature x Friend

I think Chemist is town and have no clue about Creature.

I'm town, my friend.

[Creature]

I need inspiration

[Creature]

I need inspiration

[Creature]

If it includes killing half of each dance pair, sure.

[Creature]

VOTE: Ank/Clem

[Creature]

I don't particularly townread Oka or BEF, but I think that pair is T-T.

[Creature]

Hello, about to die of boredom. AMA.

[Creature]

No, wished I just stayed home.

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I'm just going to vote here until mbaki votes somewhere and then I will just "follow" him.

What a mindset.

[Creature]

I won't even fight if this is legit a thing

Being town is awful this year

You haven't seen MU...

but yeah, it's getting painful to be town nowadays.

[Creature]

(ftr mbaki and RC both supporting this should be a red flag for everybody)

Why?

[Creature]

hi ank

Hi Sky, what shade of red is your role PM?

[Creature]

Oh god you're reading the entire thread?

Can't wait for that.

[Creature]

Seeking replacement for

mbaki

???

[Creature]

I'm really lamenting the dance choice. We should have gone veto.

We can do veto next.

[Creature]

i think itd be funny if we treestumped johnny english

I forgot he was in the game.

[Creature]

Okay, do we veto or coalition first?

We should do veto first, then coalition.

[Creature]

Actually I'm wondering if we can do veto -> ??? (that doesn't allow mafia to kill tmck) -> coalition -> coalition.

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Vengeful

Choose by majority vote a player to eliminate from the game. That player can choose another player to eliminate from the game. Mafia cannot kill after this power.

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How many go in the coalition

If we lynch a dance pair and we do veto, we have to choose 7 to go to coalition (out of 12 alive).

If we do vengeful after veto, we have to choose 6 (out of 10 alive).

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UNVOTE:

Would be better to just focus on PoE today.

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Creature what are your reads now

Ignoring dance pairing speculations, I'd go with:
tmck (obviously)
You
RC
mbaki
all as town

The rest I'll just consider PoE.

[Creature]

My Taly townread sorta died :/

[Creature]

If we do vengeful after veto, we have to choose 6 (out of 10 alive).

Lynch PoE/PoE dance pair -> use veto on four PoE players -> aim to lynch one towny-looking PoE player to venge another PoE -> 10 alive, 6 towny players (including tmck) to lock the game -> also get another shot if it goes wrong at first.

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Vengeful

Choose by majority vote a player to eliminate from the game. That player can choose another player to eliminate from the game. Mafia cannot kill after this power.

They can’t kill now anyhow, dance took care of that.

Yeah, scum can't kill now because of dance, and if we want to keep them from killing tmck, vengeful is one option we can do after this.

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Creature wtf? Why are you voting Ank?

Was fairly sure Clem was scum. I'm not voting that pair anymore now.

[Creature]

8p coalitions or 7p coalitions

If we do veto first, we get to do 7p coalitions.

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Vengeful

Choose by majority vote a player to eliminate from the game. That player can choose another player to eliminate from the game. Mafia cannot kill after this power.

They can’t kill now anyhow, dance took care of that.

Yeah, scum can't kill now because of dance, and if we want to keep them from killing tmck, vengeful is one option we can do after this.

If there are no NKs, how can scum kill him?

Exactly, hence why I'm suggesting vengeful.

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i don't think we can make a reliable coalition today.

Why not?

We can reduce down the PoE and need less players to make a coalition.

[Creature]

Btw Taly is fine, he just quit the site

Actually quit or just temporarily siteflaked?

Afaict he intends it to be permanent

mafiascum.net is like Dungeons & Dragons afair.

[Creature]

On second thought, 1 of 4 seems ideal.

Not now.

[Creature]

There are no NKs, what would we need Protect for?

Actually yeah that would waste time right now.

VOTE: 1of4

-TL

Would screw up coalition and most likely just give us one easy scum.

[Creature]

0verki11 + Moongrass + Time Devil is what I'm thinking atm

thought mbaki was towny

[Creature]

Why veto before coalition? If we coalition first and fail we have a greater chance of forcing scum to strongman kill themselves

How?

I thought we would have a better chance at coalition if we used veto first.

[Creature]

Still would rather do veto before coalition.

[Creature]

How would that coalition -> veto even work btw?

[Creature]

Coalition fails

Veto bottom 4 members

of the coalition?

[Creature]

Is it bad that this games feels like a giant waste of time because of how easy it should be? I kinda hope we don't just auto win so I can do something.

We can try to guess the scumteam for postgame cred?

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{0verki11, chennisden, Moongrass, Time Devil, Titus} probably contains all the scum

0verki11 + Moongrass + Time Devil is what I'm thinking atm

Overkill11 + Time Devil + whichever one of your POE shows up in 1 of 4, probably safest bet.

I agree on Over and TD. We use 1of4 only when there's one scum left.

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it's not as literally gamethrowing as burning vengeful but i do think it's suboptimal

but not suboptimal enough to be willing to fight with you over.

Agreed, Vengeful is hella stupid.

Vengeful can work before coalition as long we don't lynch mafia.

[Creature]

would be interesting to see who would step up to take the venge.

[Creature]

So... the Johnny replace was weird right?

wasn't he replaced by inactivity?

[Creature]

On second thought, 1 of 4 seems ideal.

Not now.

Okay, Moongrass/mbaki probably is scum then.

Yep, may start seeing that.

[Creature]

0verki11 + Moongrass + Time Devil is what I'm thinking atm

thought mbaki was towny

i thought you were good at mafia.

@Maria, there isn’t anything townie about voting either 1 of 4 or vengeful.

@Creature, d’oh.

I know, I thought mbaki was towny before Moongrass replaced in.

[Creature]

I wonder if the coalition resistance is because the game will end if we do

Is that a dumb theory

- Dann

Actually, that's not a dumb theory.

[Creature]

Whatever, would be better to start with coalition -> veto -> coalition

[Creature]

Show us your top 8 townreads (including tmck) -> show us your top 4 scumreads -> show us your top 7 scumreads (incl. tmck)

[Creature]

Vengeful can work before coalition as long we don't lynch mafia.

[Creature]

How many votes is coalition at? I want to go straight to action.

[Creature]

Maya hee, maya ha, maya ho, maya ha-ha

[Creature]

VOTE: Coalition

[Creature]

1 more to coalition

[Creature]

You already voted coalition, RC.

[Creature]

Oops

[Creature]

Hi also drunk I'm also bored

[Creature]

Consensus town (all coalitions should have these):
TMCK
Sky
RC
Creature
Nance
Ank

Upper PoE:
Maria
Chemist
Clem
Chenn

Lower PoE:
Moon
0ver
TD
Titus

for convenience. I'll sort the bottom two brackets by my own reads soon.

I agree with this list.

[Creature]

I would add the consensus town plus Chemist.

[Creature]

Someone sell me on Clemency?

[Creature]

Hes much less likely scum than the rest and he was paired with titus in dance and I dont think scum pairs themselves with scum in that case

Thought chennisden was paired with Titus?

[Creature]

VOTE: themilkcartonkid, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, Creature, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency

[Creature]

Hes much less likely scum than the rest and he was paired with titus in dance and I dont think scum pairs themselves with scum in that case

No, that was Chenn, Clemency was paired with Creature.

I was paired with Chemist. Clemency was paired with Ank.

[Creature]

Maybe would've been more interesting if we did veto first.

[Creature]

won't oppose MariaR actually, I think we win anyway.

[Creature]

VOTE: switch RC with MariaR

[Creature]

Thinking we should try to flip one scum first if this coalition fails.

[Creature]

We cant because we wont get to coalition again. We have to veto. We have a couple options, but we should talk about them later

We have veto and we have vengeful.

We also have quiz if we can guess right.

[Creature]

VOTE: switch RC with MariaR

You people are driving me nuts with all of your flipflopping on RC/Maria. I am definitely more confident in RC town but I really don’t think Maria is scum. Like I keep saying, as long as we vote 8/9 players, which include both RC/Maria, I think we win.

I want to see where is that MariaR resistance coming from.

[Creature]

Thinking we should try to flip one scum first if this coalition fails.

Overki11 would be my #1 pick.

Yeh, feels like he pretty much gave up.

However I wonder if we should look for one less obvious scum.

[Creature]

Titus would be an interesting venge target.

[Creature]

Thinking we should try to flip one scum first if this coalition fails.

Overki11 would be my #1 pick.

Yeh, feels like he pretty much gave up.

However I wonder if we should look for one less obvious scum.

TD then.

Other than that, I think last scum is between Moon/Titus/Chenn.

I don't feel like TD will give us a fair amount of info though.

[Creature]

Titus would be an interesting venge target.

The main problem with Venge, is that we can’t vote on that but yeah, preferably venge is chosen from Ank’s POE of 5.

Titus is a terrible venge. She would vig rc

I meant choosing someone to venge Titus btw.

[Creature]

VOTE: Veto

[Creature]

I would rather if we did vengeful after this.

[Creature]

idk, I wanted to reduce the number of players needed to coalition.

[Creature]

I would rather this:

VOTE: chenn, Over, Titus, TD

[Creature]

We're not going to mindlessly kill town players from the coalition.

[Creature]

Nancy how do you feel about Creature in place of Overkill?

How do you feel about tmck in place of TD?

[Creature]

Dunno, depends how serious Titus is.

[Creature]

This is Enter-taining

[Creature]

I would rather this:

VOTE: chenn, Over, Titus, TD

or we can actively try to match a scumteam on a veto to make this more interesting.

[Creature]

I don’t understand why you wouldn’t have anyone in the failed coalition in this list?

If the veto list was Ank's slot, Clem, Chem and me, what do you think would happen?

[Creature]

you and {chem/ank} would die

Exactly

[Creature]

What if we veto 1 coalition + 3 non-coalition?

[Creature]

We can lynch up to four people.

[Creature]

Titus, I am not getting vetoed because I'm not discardable town like this.

[Creature]

I don't care if I'm not put into the coalition because likely the coalition will fail anyway whether I'm included in or not.

Atleast we can then go back to traditional scumhunting rather than keep choosing mechanisms that will only kill town.

[Creature]

I hope you enjoyed pushing town!me because it's not every day I let it easy.

[Creature]

Maybe RC is right? Moon > Maria 100%.

No, Moon seems to be doing something while Maria doesn't.

[Creature]

The fact people are even considering Ank scum is mindblowing to me

Ank and I are the best kills scum can get in veto.

[Creature]

Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Pink Ball veto should probably swap creature out for another as there are better ways to sort him.

should probably swap PB too.

[Creature]

can we agree that moongrass goes in ANY veto?

No

[Creature]

I would rather this:

VOTE: chenn, Over, Titus, TD

ok so no, we are aiming for 3 scum, im town and im pretty sure Titus and Chenn are as well.
So youve probably got 1 scum there sucks to be you

My intention clearly was reduce PoE.

[Creature]

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I'm thinking Chem/Clem/Maria/TD

[Creature]

Since Overkill11/Moon are patently obvscum now

What?

[Creature]

it makes no sense to have not have 2 coalition slots in veto unless the failed scum slot isn’t blatantly obvious, which it clearly isn’t.

Too many negatives

[Creature]

oh

not about this game btw

like, mafia as a whole

I only know that I miss being a newbie.

[Creature]

We're not going to mindlessly kill town players from the coalition.

I would rather this:

VOTE: chenn, Over, Titus, TD

Has your reads changed on any of this?

Yep, I'm leaning town on Over now. chenn and Titus are still meh slots I want to sort and TD's vote on coalition yesterday was bad.

I think Moon is obvscum

I don't.

Don’t you think you should have at least one if not 2 coalition slots in there? But no more than two.

Yeh, I can do Chemist and/or Clemency.

How do you read Chemist/Clemency now?

idk. Chemist has fallen off and Clemency I never understood the townreads on.

[Creature]

Sigh...

I ask again: 0verki11, Chemist1422, Clemency. What do they all have in common?

They all feel like consensus at this point.

[Creature]

Titus, I am not getting vetoed because I'm not discardable town like this.

Well, we both agree you're not discardable if you're town. I just doubt you are.

I'm not getting sacrificed here just because you apparently can't see it.

[Creature]

Page 185:

I'm thinking Chem/Clem/Maria/TD

Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, themilkcartonkid

Four names that list and not tmck.

That sets us up to PoE the game with coalition tomorrow.

We're not killing all obvtown just to find likely one scum that somehow got in.

[Creature]

Hello, I am watching Madonna embarass herself. How are you all doing?

[Creature]

I think we should just do raw scumhunting ignoring veto.

[Creature]

First, Chem, Clem and Over aren't scum

[Creature]

Moongrass likely isn't either

[Creature]

Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, themilkcartonkid

NanceFloor or Skygazer imo