Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[chennisden]

I want to think about Clem a little bit.

[chennisden]

man thay clem guy is swell

[chennisden]

shoshin come play the game with us

pls, ill sheep you to victory

[chennisden]

brighteyedfish please move your vote to something more productive.

your excuse seems like a wishwashy thing scum says.

[chennisden]

Taly town?

[chennisden]

I also have reads on Oka and Nance but want to see how they progress for a little.

[chennisden]

also idc if 8ball is scum, we lynch scum

[chennisden]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Who cares? Dann isnt the most scummy player here, and 8ball spec takes away from finding scum.

On that note talk about your scumread with me please

[chennisden]

Explain your BeF read too, nance

From what I see his ISO feels fake af.

[chennisden]

both of you have a history of being blacklisted, tbh. its a sign of maturity to tru to bury the hatchet

That would be nice but I don’t believe in Santa Claus.

stop.

[chennisden]

i really don't want to use this

but nancefloor slot seems to have benefited soo much from this exchange while doing so little

[chennisden]

im not gonna take sides

also nance scum.

[chennisden]

the mbaki lynch list is terrible though

[chennisden]

it blatantly is controlling the lynch without providing any reasoning

[chennisden]

Let's see.

I think Ank is town and Ank's also realized Nance is fake AF.

Nance has townread BeF which is a terrible townread.

TD is Beazu+Temporal. Idk either of them well but I'd think its safeish to assume they're just good at scumhunting and found scum early.

If CB/RC is SvT CB is the scum here. He looks like he's trying to take advantage. And in all honesty it seems SvT

[chennisden]

VOTE: Nancefloor

Come lynch scum with me.

[chennisden]

You’ve also seen town me a few times now, I believe, so what makes you see that differently?

Looks advantage seeking, if you know what i mean. agenda based.

anyway if you are town kill scum with me.

[chennisden]

how would you guys feel if you had repeatedly asked someone to leave you alone and they insisted on joining your games and using secret alts to evade being wotmed?

RC I can understand you are frustrated but please let's lynch scum. Dann is scum let's lynch him please

[chennisden]

chennis how sure r u that nancefloor is scum because u seem very sure

more sure than anyone else.

[chennisden]

since im trying not to let the 1v1 dictate the game, ill just try to dictate the lynch on obvscum

[chennisden]

okay rephrase

are you being confident to get people to sheep you

or you are you very sure that this flips scum to the point where you are willing to sabotage the future to get this lynched asap

im v sure this flips scum.

[chennisden]

the mbaki lynch list is terrible though

What's terrible about it? What names should be on the list that aren't?

You give no reasoning for any name on the list.

[chennisden]

Your reads have had no evidence and are incredibly non-committal and broad.

[chennisden]

not finding partners

just killing scum.

[chennisden]

if you type VOTE: Nancefloor you level up

[chennisden]

theres no other content and nancefloor has been screaming scum?

[chennisden]

theres a couple of people i am willing to compromise wagon on

[chennisden]

RC I'm referring to chen vs oka

[chennisden]

non-committal, defended someone who voted me despite not even SRing me OVER voting someone they considered scum, etc

also, replacement is NAI; scum doesn't appreciate toxicity either.

[chennisden]

ehh i'd say i am, i'm kinda ballsy with reads i feel strong with

[chennisden]

Hi I got behind and have not read up

AMA

u town?

[chennisden]

thinking about 8ball is strictly anti-town

[chennisden]

also idc if 8ball is scum, we lynch scum

[chennisden]

hmm idk.

[chennisden]

i dont think this lynch will go through

and there are more scum to lynch

[chennisden]

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

"chennisden was not on my original list"

[chennisden]

Time Devil I think we need to compromise here.

[chennisden]

Let's all get off our vanity wagons and actually lynch someone. We have 4 days and no consensus.

[chennisden]

I don't think it will be as AI as other stuff, hopefully not 1v1s. Whenever this kind of stuff happens I honestly try not to process it too much

[chennisden]

I swear this game is cursed, first time through momo and now this...

Is this Baezu?

Just ignore RC vs FL. I’ll actively try and shy away from posting towards him unless I’m responding.

Let’s play Mafia.

I’m lean scum on you. If I’m wrong, help me realize that.

Who is scum to you?

Yup it’s me!

Me and TL both agree that this isn’t Dann’s towngame so we are heavily leaning scum there...if we don’t have support for that wagon, we’d be happy to look into other slots...I don’t think oka is scum so not voting there, chenn could be scum but I’m waiting to get more info on that slot

-b

Just letting you know,

a town mislynch is strictly better than a no-lynch!

[chennisden]

Time Devil I think we need to compromise here.

What’s the compromise?

on OKA.

[chennisden]

mbaki, time devil, let's lynch oka

[chennisden]

we don't have time to dilly dally.

VOTE: oka

[chennisden]

he has one vote.

[chennisden]

a town mislynch is strictly better than a no-lynch!

[chennisden]

let me get this straight:

if you are town and you're wagoned up but you won't get lynched and deadline is about to come

you are gamethrowing if you don't self hammer.

[chennisden]

also oka is ew which is why i chose him

[chennisden]

congrats fusco!

[chennisden]

mbaki vote

[chennisden]

4 days is not that much especially when there's no consensus wagons.

[chennisden]

If a majority is not reached by deadline, no player will be eliminated, and

the Mafia will get 2 kills that Night.

[chennisden]

that's not a valid reason to vote me 4.5 days before deadline

reason 1. stated
reason 2. i realize a dannfloor lynch is unlikely to carry through so i go down the totem pole of "scumreads"

[chennisden]

will i vote dann if he has a chance of being lynched? yeah

[chennisden]

am i saying to speedwagon oka rn? no

[chennisden]

am i telling people to be aware of deadline and be ready to lynch? yeah

[chennisden]

id feel better about this if u werent on a vanity wagon

if you get off a vanity wagon we can work together.

[chennisden]

reason 1 is im ew?

i mean

you are literally trying to get people to vote me to what, l2?

which forces my lynch to be more inevitable ?

no, what do you think R1 is?

[chennisden]

do you guys really think they'll be lynched?

[chennisden]

tr post neq tr slot

if you present a better alternative i will compromise. you aren't my ideal lynch at all.

[chennisden]

but you aren't the worst lynch

[chennisden]

explain why shadowless is scum to me please.

[chennisden]

there are worse slots than oka by far rn

UNVOTE:

[chennisden]

So I skimmed the game earlier to decide if I wanted to rep in, chenn is probably town based on last game unless they were just lurky earlier. Also only like 4 people are posting and that's about what i got. Who is the leading wagon?

this is a pretty good take.

[chennisden]

I have 2 reads already with decent confidence.

VOTE: 8ball

I now have 4 reads.

The mentioning of reads but no shareing seems useless.

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

Trying to control votes so early on despite not doing much themselves + no real reasoning at all.

I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.

Like wolfy af, lynching someone because you dont agree with their playstyle is unneeded

We have 4 days. Please relax Chen.

Oka lynch is cool. I

think

Shadow is town, for some pretty garbage reasons.

I am not placing a vote. I will be voting by end of day, do not worry.

Disagree with Shadow read, and I dont see a reason not to vote

hey OK voters

you might not agree with him

but this is not a good lynch rn

[chennisden]

Sorry!!! Had IRL things and haven't been on

fine i guess

Is this game usually this slow?

not fine

Howdy new person

not fine either; he knows what's going on and refuses to post

eh i don't feel this is the best lynch

[chennisden]

Milk slot is pretty good.

[chennisden]

(Not as a lynch)

[chennisden]

even aside from that though there's nothing that he's done that justifies anyone being confident in a read there and i'd rather hit someone who i have a better read on

^this

[chennisden]

Also, scum most definitely 8 balled RC I'm calling that right now

this is a terrible take

[chennisden]

mislynch better than no lynch.

[chennisden]

VOTE: tmck

hmm

[chennisden]

chennis arent u the one who says better mislynch than no lynch

and tried to justify voting me bc deadline was in 4.5 days and u were worried we'd get no lynch

shadowless wagon has no substance and will break easily.

there's more scummy people to lynch

[chennisden]

even aside from that though there's nothing that he's done that justifies anyone being confident in a read there and i'd rather hit someone who i have a better read on

^this

where does this come from

since you were very quick to compromise to a worse lynch that you admitted

what do you think my read on you is?

[chennisden]

answer 1010.

[chennisden]

ill throw my vote when you answer 1010.

[chennisden]

nah

i have an unsureish scum read on you

[chennisden]

normally i would tunnel you for opportunistically using shadowlessclouds

but here its more towny because a no lynch is terrible.

[chennisden]

its coming.

[chennisden]

actually oka i apologize for ever voting you in the first place.

[chennisden]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

[chennisden]

VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there. If so let us know.

My Chen vote has nothing to do with a SR or activity. It just feels like a safe place to lynch. IMO, a mislynch > an 8ball lynch.

guys.

[chennisden]

We are not lynching for "not the 8ball". We are lynching for scum, and if we happen to hit the 8ball (

very

unlikely), that's our fault.

This game is a mix of slow and too jokey. Not interested so far.

I can agree with this. I just wasn't for sure what should be our best approach. So we play like a normal day and just hope we don't hit the 8ball. OK. Thst makes my vote on Chen useless.

UNVOTE:

This pathetic activity and content pace is making it very hard for me to stick to this playstyle I'm attempting.

RC, I'm placing the burden on you friend. Make this less shitty. Push Oka for his bad Shadow vote, give a Creature read, do something please. Create content.

We have 5 days left and 14 pages of garbage.

I think it might be due to the fact that there was not really an RVS section thst got everyone loosened up. We went all in with the 8ball vote and it feels like it made the game motionless.

I'll throw my vote on Oka and maybe some more will follow so we can at least get something more tangible to work with.

VOTE: Oka

Vote Count 1.2.4

OkaPoka (3): Creature, BrightEyedFish, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2): OkaPoka, Confirmation Bias
Confirmation Bias (1): Taly
Time Devil (1): Fuscosco
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Shoshin, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

How is Oka the top wagon?

Who should be the top wagon atm?

[chennisden]

fine

someone justify a shadowless/milk lynch

[chennisden]

actually hmm

BEF is a randvote that hasnt been moved for a while

so that leaves shadowless and milk

[chennisden]

i feel more comfortable with shadowless.

VOTE: shadowless

[chennisden]

btw I was serious when I said that we should lynch shoshin's slot.

explain?

[chennisden]

but tmck isn't scummy

[chennisden]

nah

chennis ur right

im just being an ass because i think its funny

VOTE: bef

this probs flips scum more than shadowless based on iso

he's way too self conscious like he is parsing his actions carefully, but noticeably isnt actually pushing anyone

ty

VOTE: bef

idk i think this is my ideal lynch.

[chennisden]

but 350 is not town motivated?

[chennisden]

idk voting someone to "make content" feels fake and forced

[chennisden]

BeF has no reads

seemed very opportunistic

[chennisden]

tonally terrible and seems like he's cruising

[chennisden]

just wading along the waters of this game

[chennisden]

idk

"mafia is hard"

[chennisden]

BEF is town.

why is bef town nance

That was Dann.

He just seems really natural and unrehearsed. He reads likes he’s trying to figure out stuff as he goes along.

Like he makes votes

(1)

but

he really isn’t pushing anything

(2)

,

(1) his last vote is in the 350s. wrong.
(2) how is this town? especially with 8ball pushing nothing is scum!

[chennisden]

bef is not a good wagon.

why are we following chen?

because this is the best wagon we have?

also people aren't following me

[chennisden]

i respect other people's scumgame enough to assume they can fake "naturalness"

[chennisden]

and i think its fake here.

[chennisden]

the second best option for scum is a no-lynch. its much safer.

[chennisden]

it also gives them two NKs.

[chennisden]

Fusco wtf.

[chennisden]

Fusco please give me some reads. The only ones I've seen out of you are bad.

[chennisden]

The only read which you've articulated is me, and there's a weird townread on Oka.

Like I don't think Oka is necessarily scum but your reasoning is meh.

[chennisden]

your meta is not this

how would u know

i barely even have a meta

[chennisden]

oka is town because theyre pushing their scumreeeeeads
and they arent pushing any one agenda.


do you think oka is fishing for a low hanger?

shadowless is the very definition of low hanging

[chennisden]

^ tmck would generate more content

bef would generate more content

[chennisden]

what's wrong with the low hanging fruit?

because you know the case is terrible?

[chennisden]

i was talking about shadowless, not tmck.

[chennisden]

i was talking about shadowless, not tmck.

why is the shadowless case worse than the tmck case?

theres nothing to case. it's literally impossible to case.

what are you going to do, analyze every nook and cranny of someone who's not even here?

[chennisden]

Two things I would like to discuss for fun, 1 why did you originally start mafia and 2 what power are you most looking forward to. I started mafia because I enjoy the roles, but I continue because I think it helps me read people irl. I am excited about using the all town group thing

And yes, this will actually help me sort

It didn't and it was pretty obvious it wouldn't.

Also, all my reads from last night were from 12am they were just random thoughts as I was reading

This is scum indicative.

VOTE: tmck

actually lets just lynch this solely for his attempt at rqs at this stage

Oka, I just wanted to start a conversation

Much better conversations to be had at this point, don't you think?

I have a reason to meta. I cant rely on meta, but know that AtE is just how a person makes arguments is useful because I want to lynch AtE

I have no idea what you're saying here and 1259 contradicts what you seemed to say

But are you advocating policy right now?

Chenn isn't a form read. I dont think I have a 3rd form read. Chen's for is good, but it's not screaming town

Chenn is very obviously town, but if he starts to lurk, then I will reconsider

This isn't a terrible take though.

[chennisden]

Oka you look very survivalist. And you are blatantly making no attempt to sort or lynch SCUM.

[chennisden]

BeF is pretty non-committal though.

[chennisden]

I think Milk's vote on BeF is opportunistic.

[chennisden]

Then we're lynching Vedith.

jk

[chennisden]

bef lynch over fusco i think

[chennisden]

Why is tmck less scum than bef?

because looking back I hate BEFs earlier posts.

good take

[chennisden]

We kinda need a vc to gauge the gamestate and not having one is bad for town

So here you go

BeF (5) Oka, Chennis, Johnny, tmck, Clem
tmck (3) Nance, Taly, Chemist
Mbaki (1) Overkill
Ank (1) Fusco
Oka (1) Ank
Chennis (1) BeF
Overkill (1) TD

Not voting (4): RC, Mbaki, Creature, Shadowless

[chennisden]

Ty, updated:

BeF (5) Oka, Chennis, Johnny, tmck, Clem
tmck (5) Nance, Taly, Chemist, Mbaki, Fusco
Mbaki (1) Overkill
Oka (1) Ank
Chennis (1) BeF
Overkill (1) TD

Not voting (3): RC, Mbaki, Creature, Shadowless

[chennisden]

tmck (5) Nance, Taly, Chemist, Mbaki, Fusco, Oka
BeF (4) Oka, Chennis, Johnny, tmck, Clem
Mbaki (1) Overkill
Oka (1) Ank
Chennis (1) BeF
Overkill (1) TD

Not voting (3): RC, Creature, Shadowless

[chennisden]

Oh yeah guys we have ONE DAY to lynch.

Due to band stuff I might not be on till lynch

[chennisden]

Idk I think town has a good townblock and tmck/BeF might both flip scum.

[chennisden]

You think BeF town?

[chennisden]

That's what they all say.

[chennisden]

tmck (6) Nance, Taly, Chemist, Mbaki, Fusco, Oka
BeF (4) Chennis, Johnny, tmck, Clem
Mbaki (1) Overkill
Oka (1) Ank
Chennis (1) BeF
Overkill (1) TD

Not voting (3): RC, Creature, Shadowless

[chennisden]

VOTE: bef

actually just raise your hand if you are ok with lynching tmck or something

that way we dont risk getting a no lynch

*raises hand*

Raises hand.

[chennisden]

Milk. Why do you SR BeF?

[chennisden]

Two things I would like to discuss for fun, 1 why did you originally start mafia and 2 what power are you most looking forward to. I started mafia because I enjoy the roles, but I continue because I think it helps me read people irl. I am excited about using the all town group thing

this was his crumb btw

@milk this crumb got you ran up :/

[chennisden]

-.-

[chennisden]

1 day, 14 hours, 21 minutes

, is the time until deadline from the moment i have started this post. not quite

"1 day"

just yet.

also, noting

overki11

started posting in thread around the time to avoid a prod, and my vanity vote on them...

tmck's

defense is just stating they're town.

in what world does town say a

scumread is a better mislynch than them

?

if all

{fusc, tmck, overki11}

are town then my read accuracy has either really devolved or site meta is uniquely weak this year.

with the wagon consolidation, im not feeling both wagons are scum hits but w/e, i think im white noise to half the playerlist atm

chenn

, do you have more than 3 to 4 reads? ive made several posts about you or directed to you but im still wondering if you know whether i exist in this game or not.

and yeah sure, a townbloc seems to be in the works but cohesion could definitely rise a notch or two... not that campaigning to have a lynch set in stone is the most effective route to mend this problem for the gamestate in my mind either.

i hope i dont wake up tomorrow to see a hammer, i dont trust this playerlist to evaluate when discussion remains to be necessary or not.

p-edit

chenn

im not following your scumread on

bef/tcmk

entirely, are they scumreads that are independent of each other?

p-edit again

Screw it we have a day. I'm 1 shot repicker. My role will work if I die the night of my action, I've already asked. If we hit scum I can 1 of 4 the next night if we vote it tomorrow but I dont need a hasty mislynch because I wouldn't claim. I can show crumbs. Also I'm pretty sure ank was trying to crumb it which is why I posted those for later posts. I'm on mobile and it's late but you can find them

UNVOTE:

im waiting for

ank/kittybells/titus'

input on their reads.

also

chenn

, were

bef/tcmk

scumreads indepndent of each other?

bef/tmck were mostly independent. i didnt like bef's early posting and i didnt like tmck's later posting

[chennisden]

town block is chen/rc/taly

townish are nancy/chemist/mbaki

sortlist are shadowless/johnny/ank/oka

we lynch inside of fusco/bef/tmck/ok

[chennisden]

excuse me

explain this flashwagon?

[chennisden]

oka and fusco seem opportunistic

[chennisden]

i think the claim is real here

[chennisden]

excuse me

we lynch scum no matter if they are 8ball or not.

[chennisden]

i did not know about the crumb, but i found it after the claim :/

[chennisden]

and take tmck out of the lynchpool

[chennisden]

realistic lynchpool rn is me/bef

[chennisden]

Not anymore

We already know one of scum's NKs

[chennisden]

This immunity will fail if the player is non-Vanilla or has been targeted with the Reveal power. The Mafia may not kill after this.

[chennisden]

cool

why are we protecting you

[chennisden]

damn this is townsided

VOTE: coalition

[chennisden]

we coalition twice.

if it doesn't win (which it probably will) then at least it's a very powerful invest.

[chennisden]

lol

[chennisden]

we are double-coalitioning.

[chennisden]

ok here is the plan

we coalition twice with tmck + 4 different players each time

if we win we win

if we lose we assume that there is one scum per coalition, we lynch the scum in each pool

then we end game with 1 of 4

we need

8

more people

[chennisden]

"look guys i lynched obvscum"

fusco was practically scumclaiming because he got cocky that tmck would be lynched. please.

[chennisden]

i'm going to literally no comment on the first coalition and even ask to be excluded from it.
then I get absolute control over the second coalition if/when it fails.

no.

not putting you in a coalition is game throwing.

[chennisden]

i have a better plan.

we kill mbaki then do whatever we've done before.

[chennisden]

also I want to repeat that the two coalitions MUST BE DIFFERENT

other than our guaranteed town

So no, RC cannot be in both coalitions.

that pretty much guarantees a loss. no.

[chennisden]

that also does NO FAVORS for our PoE. we have to put people who've been towning it up this game in our coalition.

[chennisden]

Hey guys

Let's put our egos away please

[chennisden]

1 of 4 gives control to scum hands. lets NOT do that.

[chennisden]

Titus you are misunderstanding what I mean

We coalition twice, with two pools of different four.

If we succeed any, we win ok.

If we fail both, then we know both pools have at least "1 scum"

Therefore we should PoE lynch out the coalition pool until we hit the "1 scum" from each pool. Then move to next pool.

This will leave us with 1 scum left, we will have lynched 2 scum in the PoE and 1 scum already.

Then we 1of4 for final PoE. Which guarantees us scum lynch,

we need a pool of EIGHT.

[chennisden]

ok ok i counterclaim repicker i am the real repicker tmck is confirmed scum

are you joking?

[chennisden]

Oka, do you UNDERSTAND what coalition is?

[chennisden]

We need to pick a total of NINE people.

[chennisden]

I would like everyone to sign onto the idea that both coalition pools must be with completely separate people barring the repicker

terrible idea.

[chennisden]

i was catching up

[chennisden]

i think vetoing first is not a terrible idea.

[chennisden]

putting the four scummiest slots there might help with coal

[chennisden]

We veto once as an intermediate step to doing something that will win.

[chennisden]

VOTE: Dance

[chennisden]

There's a reason Dance is really good, and none of you are seeing. Unfortunately for it to work, we can't let scum know.

[chennisden]

Which means I can't explain it. But I am confident Dance will provide us the information to GUARANTEE a win for town.

[chennisden]

mbaki please resolve not to be the reason we lose

[chennisden]

we dance today.

[chennisden]

can any of the townies who have any mathematical ability back me up that mbaki is scumclaiming by advocating for blowing vengeful early?

yes

i have a strong background in math and i tryharded

if you think blowing vengeful right now is ever mechanically a good idea you can go away

[chennisden]

lol

[chennisden]

why is dance not a good idea?

[chennisden]

at WORST dance is free information.

we use dance BEFORE we use coal

now is the best time.

[chennisden]

i dont think veto is that great.

[chennisden]

coalition isn't good now because it requires LOTS, and LOTS of armtwisting.

[chennisden]

i dont think we can get half of town to agree on 9 people in 10 days

[chennisden]

if we double hit scum we cant veto because there is one scum left

so?

[chennisden]

oh no what if we HIT SCUM

[chennisden]

veto after coalition.

i ran the numbers.

[chennisden]

Let me summarize the interaction:

TMCK asked whether we could or could not use coalition after hitting scum in a dance.

I responded, as clearly as possible, no, because that would violate one of the prerequisites of coalitioning. I went to explain how that would violate the prerequisite of coalitioning. What is the question here, chennis?

nvm then

[chennisden]

Huh I'm paired with TMCK... I'm untouchable!

-TL

And scum would love to be paired with TMCK.

[chennisden]

Here are the pairings for the Dance:

Player 1	Player 2
RadiantCowbells	0verki11
mbaki	NanceFloor
OkaPoka	BrightEyedFish
Time Devil	themilkcartonkid
Ankamius	Clemency
Creature	Chemist1422
Taly	JohnnyEnglish
chennisden	Titus

Let's play a game of colour the Dancers!

TMCK orange...? Did you read D1?

[chennisden]

Any chance scum puts two of themselves together here?:

Highly doubt it unless they’re both deep

So then there are 3 pairs with scum, ~38%.

What pairs have the highest chance at being both town to help narrow the field?

Oka/Me
Ank/Clem

Also I think scum may have paired up with some strong town players to protect themselves. i.e

mbaki

/

nancefloor

.

Is it worth losing a good town player for a chance at scum?

I think it's worth it.

[chennisden]

hm we are not lynching TD and tmck

JohnnyEnglish feels scummy but taly not

Idk I like Oka BeF lynch

[chennisden]

then VOTE: BeF

sorry oka but you aren't town enough to make up for bef

[chennisden]

nope

[chennisden]

hm we are not lynching TD and tmck

JohnnyEnglish feels scummy but taly not

Idk I like Oka BeF lynch

Do you think scum busses after Fucosco lynch because weird pairing to put BEF in, considering scum were hard pushing him?

Iow, only way BEF is scum here, is if scum is bussing him.

scum had to choose between BEF and Fusco after milk claimed

and scum putting themself with lynchbait can help later so its all wifom

[chennisden]

Chemist is tonally town

[chennisden]

Creature has been lurking too much though.

[chennisden]

dw im town

[chennisden]

iirc creature is really easy to meta read

[chennisden]

i havent played with creature a lot so take everything i say with a grain of salt

not rly, he usually posts more, but this isnt his scum meta

[chennisden]

VOTE: clem

[chennisden]

idk is clem worse than BeF?

ank is better than oka

lemme think

[chennisden]

VOTE: BeF

[chennisden]

ok titus; can you give us your coalition

[chennisden]

ok titus; can you give us your coalition

How many in it?

Assuming NL.

[chennisden]

meh creature chemist has scum equity

[chennisden]

VOTE: veto

[chennisden]

i don't think we can make a reliable coalition today.

[chennisden]

maybe venge?

VOTE: venge

[chennisden]

Almost.

[chennisden]

i don't think we can make a reliable coalition today.

Why not?

because we don't have enough consensus TR's