Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[NanceFloor]

Sr nancefloor bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

\o/ More people wrongly sr us. There mist be a lottery in this game or something.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Sr nancefloor bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

Why are you sr those slots?

[NanceFloor]

Sr nancefloor bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

What if I told you all three of these are town?

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

Sr nancefloor bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

What if I told you all three of these are town?

- Floor

+1

[NanceFloor]

sorry dannflor

???

What are you apologizing for?

[NanceFloor]

for FOTM

FOTM?

[NanceFloor]

Dann, are you feeling de-motivated? I thought you'd be attempting to gamesolve more directly with the thread here...

I was feeling somewhat so at that point.

But I feel better today and I'll get my reads list going as well. (I'll also stop talking about it and just do it after this post)

That vote was just because I wasn't completely happy with the one on TD and I wanted to show support for RC at the time. I was still interacting directly with the thread and trying to sort at the time outside of that vote so I'm unsure what you're getting at.

- Floor

the bolded is what im getting at, ty for coming to my ted talk

Just ftr, I wouldn’t have replaced back in if RC had been the one to replace out, which is what I was expecting to happen. Had I known that the mods were going to handle it the way they did, I would have never even considered replacing out.

~Nancy

You said you would stop talking about it, so please stop continuing to ruin everyone else’s game

Thank you

Sure, because you’re the boss of me.

[NanceFloor]

If NanceFloor flips town, I will vote Reveal the next day.

That's how confident I am that Nance is scum. Their continued insistence in deathtunneling me and continuing to use the misinterpretation as a "case" against me is proof Nance is caught scum.

-TL

No sorry, you’re not mislynching us. Your push on us has been bad and fake from the getgo. I’ll reassess, when you give me good fucking reason to do so and not a moment sooner. You’re not baiting me into not sr you. Town it up or stfu basically. Sorry if that seems harsh but I really do think you’re scum here. Prove me wrong.

~ND

You’re right, we’re not mislynching you. We’re lynching scum!you

Nancy, do you always have to have the last word?

-b

You’re such a joker. You can’t lynch scum!me because scum!me doesn’t exist in this game.

Yes, because I not freaking scum but you go on with your happy delusions.





HAVE YOU EVER EVEN GIVEN ONE GODDAMNED REASON FOR YOUR CRAPTASTIC READ ON ME, YET???

[NanceFloor]

Same

I’d rather deal with dann

Then, uh... deal with me

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

sorry dannflor

you are forgiven mr. radiantcowbells

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

Oh and if we are the nk tonight, then nancefloor is pretty much confscum at that point! They almost can’t nk is because it’ll be so obvious

If I hadn’t read the setup, I would be almost certain that you’re a jester in this game. lmao

[NanceFloor]

I'm done trying to explain myself to you. I want to speak with

Dann

and reply to readslist as he's expressed a desire to do for me, as I also want to focus on other slots and gather a stronger idea of the playerlist before deadline. I don't have time or interest in this.

Same

I’d rather deal with dann

Awwe you hurt my precious feelings.

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: tmck

Did dann or Nancy make this vote?

I did. Pretty sure Nancy would like to keep voting you ideally

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: tmck

Did dann or Nancy make this vote?

Before that question gets answered, what difference does it make? Are you upset we’re not currently voting you? If so, I’m sure that mistake can be corrected.

[NanceFloor]

I'm happy to deal with either of you!

<3

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: tmck

Did dann or Nancy make this vote?

I did. Pretty sure Nancy would like to keep voting you ideally

- Floor

It’s just not like you dann to put down a naked vote

Is this Temporal Lich?

I can assure you I've naked voted many times before

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

It's probably going to be a while before I can put together a real case. Nancefloir shouldn't be the lynch because I'm not 100% about it not being playstyle. The sea come from their almost exclusively AtE reasoning, a couple of weird almost slippy posts that I think I've shared a few of and the fact that all their srs are omgus. Bef sounds so increadibly stilted and unnatural. Mbaki... I had a reason but I'll have to remember what tired me was looking at. I think some obvious towns are taly, chenn, and oka. And again, I dont know who shadow less cloud is

UNVOTE:

~ND

[NanceFloor]

BEF is town.

why is bef town nance

That was Dann.

He just seems really natural and unrehearsed. He reads likes he’s trying to figure out stuff as he goes along. Like he makes votes but he really isn’t pushing anything,

This is just objectively not true

Eh maybe the figure things out might be true, but its figuring out game theory stuff, not the game itself

I’m not sold on BEF scum but I am definitely convinced you believe it.

~Nance

[NanceFloor]

Inclined to say Time Devil is town too

Why?

This seems to be town!TL

Based on?

I’m not seeing it and I think you and RC are drinking the same koolade but whatever.

[NanceFloor]

Anyway, Creature may be town.

"may"

You fooled me recently, duh!

(don’t out my alt, kthanx. )

[NanceFloor]

I dont think it's the qualities of your reads that make you towny, it's your cluelessness and actual genuineness. Basically what nancefloor was saying about BEF but, you know, actually true. The reason Chenn us town is because they're actually trying and the only other game I had with them they didnt, and the pt showed they weren't just lurking because of irl stuff. Do you think shadow disappearing is AI?

tmck=locktown

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Don't lynch
RadiantCowbells
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Ankamius
Creature
Taly
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
chennisden

The rest can all die imo

Why are we not on this list?

How are you so certain on Ank and yeah shouldn’t be surprised because TD koolade.

[NanceFloor]

I think I might just sheep tcmk the entire game. He may not be Shoshin but but he can read me correctly like town!her would and he didn’t even need meta to do it!


Get your votes off of this guy, unless you’re looking for a town loss.

~Nancy the super impressed

[NanceFloor]

ok nancefloor ima tell this to you straight

ur basically guiltied scum

but if you let me leash your vote i will spare your life and lynch you last

how does that sound

this post is for real???

(catching up...)

RC did the same exact thing to me last go round. Next game he does it, I want it to be a meme.

[NanceFloor]

Don't lynch
RadiantCowbells
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Ankamius
Creature
Taly
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
chennisden

The rest can all die imo

Why are we not on this list?

How are you so certain on Ank and yeah shouldn’t be surprised because TD koolade.

Why would I not be on that list?

Why are you obvtown?

Taly is but you haven’t obvtowned it up in my book nor Dann’s for that matter. I don’t know why you expect me to locktown you when you haven’t done anything to even come close to what I’ve seen from you in past games. Not saying you’re not but I don’t know why you’d expect anyone to be this confident on town!you yet.

In fact, I think this is like the first time in this game so far, that you’ve even interacted with me. I find that highly unusual for town!you. In what game ever, have you not done that?

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: tmck

oh yeah i totally forgot about that.

VOTE: tmck

what

I guess nancefloor will sheep rc. I might be inclined to follow suit.

No, we are never ever lynching this slot!

I don’t sheep anyone and if Dann puts his voted back on them, thinks will get very rocky in our hydra PT.

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: tmck

oh yeah i totally forgot about that.

VOTE: tmck

what

I guess nancefloor will sheep rc. I might be inclined to follow suit.

No, we are never ever lynching this slot!

I don’t sheep anyone and if Dann puts his voted back on them, thinks will get very rocky in our hydra PT.

Still <3 you Dann.

[NanceFloor]

It's probably going to be a while before I can put together a real case. Nancefloir shouldn't be the lynch because I'm not 100% about it not being playstyle. The sea come from their almost exclusively AtE reasoning, a couple of weird almost slippy posts that I think I've shared a few of and the fact that all their srs are omgus. Bef sounds so increadibly stilted and unnatural. Mbaki... I had a reason but I'll have to remember what tired me was looking at. I think some obvious towns are taly, chenn, and oka. And again, I dont know who shadow less cloud is

I think I might just sheep tcmk the entire game. He may not be Shoshin but but he can read me correctly like town!her would and he didn’t even need meta to do it!


Get your votes off of this guy, unless you’re looking for a town loss.

~Nancy the super impressed

What do you think I think about you?

I think it’s extremely perceptive of you to not conflate my playstyle with my alignment, which seems to be the basis for any of the srs on us. You’re not asking this here but I also really like your other posts about Taly and others and yeah, I think you can read us correctly, so that makes me have some faith in your other reads. When people can’t read me correctly, it’s hard for me to trust their reads on others slots, for obvious reasons.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

The people tring bef why?

Do you have any specific questions or comments for me?

Okay, give me three srs and 3 trs

3 TRs:
NanceFloor
Creature
conf bias/je

3 SRs (note, these are more scum leans/trust issues than solid reads)
Taly (probably because I get mentally lost in Taly's posts)
mbaki

Can't come up with a 3rd SR right now while shooting this list from the hip.

While I’m not surprised you’re not sr us, I don’t understand why we’re your #1 town and how is Taly ever scum here?

[NanceFloor]

Ngl Nancy

I think both of you are around =rand for ability to read me this early in the game :V

I think creature is the only one that isn't

But why aren’t you interacting with me more? Even when you temporarily wrongly sr me in our last game together, you actually pushed me. You basically started off the game, slotting us as one of your possible sr but never once pushed us or tried to actively sort us in any direct way. That’s one of the many reasons I’m so confident that Taly’s town because he has been one of the slots that have interacted with me the most. RC hasn’t made that many posts but when it came to our slot, more than half involved direct interactions, so I am legit confused why you’re not doing that with us.

[NanceFloor]

The people tring bef why?

Do you have any specific questions or comments for me?

Okay, give me three srs and 3 trs

3 TRs:
NanceFloor
Creature
conf bias/je

3 SRs (note, these are more scum leans/trust issues than solid reads)
Taly (probably because I get mentally lost in Taly's posts)
mbaki

Can't come up with a 3rd SR right now while shooting this list from the hip.

While I’m not surprised you’re not sr us, I don’t understand why we’re your #1 town and how is Taly ever scum here?

My list wasn't in order but that being said, you are my #1 read.
Irt to Taly being in the SR list, I just haven't picked up on his posting flow and I am afraid to locktown thst slot atm.

Why are we your #1 tr? Considering the fact that even some people with meta on me, Taly, RC and even Creature aren’t obvtowning me yet.

[NanceFloor]

this following RC's argument or?

No. TMCK is scum.

Why?

[NanceFloor]

Ngl Nancy

I think both of you are around =rand for ability to read me this early in the game :V

I think creature is the only one that isn't

But why aren’t you interacting with me more? Even when you temporarily wrongly sr me in our last game together, you actually pushed me. You basically started off the game, slotting us as one of your possible sr but never once pushed us or tried to actively sort us in any direct way. That’s one of the many reasons I’m so confident that Taly’s town because he has been one of the slots that have interacted with me the most. RC hasn’t made that many posts but when it came to our slot, more than half involved direct interactions, so I am legit confused why you’re not doing that with us.

Because I replaced into a scum slot and I'm afraid of you

Why are you being so defensive? I can’t recall a single game we’ve played together where you haven’t done this.

[NanceFloor]

No it's actually because it won't help the game for us to 1v1 for 20 pages

Sure that makes sense but you haven’t done it at all. Don’t you want to correctly sort me?

[NanceFloor]

fun exercise for you Nancy

what was my approach this game and why would I choose it?

Then what alignment is it more appropriate for?

Your approach has obviously been to not interact with me. I can’t alignment read you off of that, because it’s inconsistent with how you usually parse me but your hardhitting me back, maybe means you could be town?

[NanceFloor]

you are someone I believe I can sort over time

There are plenty of slots here I don't

Alright, fair enough.

[NanceFloor]

@tcmk

I think it’s extremely perceptive of you to not conflate my playstyle with my alignment, which seems to be the basis for any of the srs on us.

You’re not asking this here but I also really like your other posts about Taly and others and yeah,

I think you can read us correctly, so that makes me have some faith in your other reads.

When people can’t read me correctly, it’s hard for me to trust their reads on others slots, for obvious reasons.

~ND

Sr nancefloor

bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

It's probably going to be a while before I can put together a real case.

Nancefloir shouldn't be the lynch because I'm not 100% about it not being playstyle. The sea come from their almost exclusively AtE reasoning, a couple of weird almost slippy posts that I think I've shared a few of and the fact that all their srs are omgus.

Bef sounds so increadibly stilted and unnatural. Mbaki... I had a reason but I'll have to remember what tired me was looking at. I think some obvious towns are taly, chenn, and oka. And again, I dont know who shadow less cloud is

I was obviously referring to this post.

Are you telling me I read it wrong?

I thought he had a change of heart on us because he realized he was sr us based on playstyle.

Now I feel kind of stupid.

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler:

VOTE: tmck

oh yeah i totally forgot about that.

VOTE: tmck

what

I guess nancefloor will sheep rc. I might be inclined to follow suit.

No, we are never ever lynching this slot!

I don’t sheep anyone and if Dann puts his voted back on them, thinks will get very rocky in our hydra PT.

VOTE: tmck

oh yeah i totally forgot about that.

VOTE: tmck

what

I guess nancefloor will sheep rc. I might be inclined to follow suit.

No, we are never ever lynching this slot!

I don’t sheep anyone and if Dann puts his voted back on them, thinks will get very rocky in our hydra PT.

Still <3 you Dann.

It's probably going to be a while before I can put together a real case. Nancefloir shouldn't be the lynch because I'm not 100% about it not being playstyle. The sea come from their almost exclusively AtE reasoning, a couple of weird almost slippy posts that I think I've shared a few of and the fact that all their srs are omgus. Bef sounds so increadibly stilted and unnatural. Mbaki... I had a reason but I'll have to remember what tired me was looking at. I think some obvious towns are taly, chenn, and oka. And again, I dont know who shadow less cloud is

I think I might just sheep tcmk the entire game. He may not be Shoshin but but he can read me correctly like town!her would and he didn’t even need meta to do it!


Get your votes off of this guy, unless you’re looking for a town loss.

~Nancy the super impressed

What do you think I think about you?

I think it’s extremely perceptive of you to not conflate my playstyle with my alignment, which seems to be the basis for any of the srs on us. You’re not asking this here but I also really like your other posts about Taly and others and yeah, I think you can read us correctly, so that makes me have some faith in your other reads. When people can’t read me correctly, it’s hard for me to trust their reads on others slots, for obvious reasons.

~ND

@Dann, plz disregard.

[NanceFloor]

I thought he had a change of heart on us because he realized he was sr us based on playstyle.

Now I feel kind of stupid.

do you still townread him for that

If so can you quote the relevant posts for me here

No, I no longer trust my read on them.

What is clear is though, that TD and tmck are unlikely to be s/s here, because TD wants us to be mislynch de jour and tmck doesn’t want that.

[NanceFloor]

That's very onedimensional Nancy

Why? TD wants to lynch me today and tmck doesn’t, so I’m thinking that if tmck is scum, then I obviously can’t be the 8 ball and if TD is, than I likely am.

Don’t you think that makes sense?

[NanceFloor]

Shadowlesscloud

has been prodded

I’m thinking now that Ank may be town here and if she’s not pushing this slot, Shadows, probably town.

~N

[NanceFloor]

i skimmed

but something something we unvoted tmck

can we go back to voting him or

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

You have one post to tell me why my scumread on Nancefloor was OMGUS. 406 768 821 955 (Better yet, point out what reads are OMGUS.)

I believe they're saying the scum reads we possess our all OMGUS, not yours

VOTE: tmck

fight me nancy

[NanceFloor]

why does that necessarily mean SvS

Scum have to have survivability more than to lynch the 8ball

Sure but you don’t think they’d ideally like to hit that if they could?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

You have one post to tell me why my scumread on Nancefloor was OMGUS. 406 768 821 955 (Better yet, point out what reads are OMGUS.)

I believe they're saying the scum reads we possess our all OMGUS, not yours

VOTE: tmck

fight me nancy

[NanceFloor]

TemporalLich's Lead Rist

[Town]

Taly

(you are good at questioning and your posts are getting more towny. 1201 is a decent push as well.)

chennisden

(Good scumhunter, 551 and 590 are examples. 1010 is a good question.)

Fuscosco

(The catch-up starting with 847 shows town promise, though agreeing with mbaki's lynch list isn't towny (unless of course it's being used against mbaki).)

RadiantCowbells

(Usually votes for good reasons, though the PL push is strongly NAI. Townlean regardless. Would like explanation on the hasty TMCK vote in 960.)

Ankanimus

(I feel you're towny with 395 and 753 I guess.)

Creature

(what is with the don't lynch list on 1135? I think that list is good as a TR list though.)

themilkcartonkid

(I don't get why you're strongly scumread, your BEF push seems genuine and 1168 gained info.)

JohnnyEnglish

(I've got nothing to go off of. Default neutral. Confbias was very scummy though.)

Clemency

(You've got charisma, but your ISO doesn't have much info. 244 is my main impetus for not scumreading you harder.)

OkaPoka

(429 is a good post and 652 is also towny, but you're mostly a fluffposter. Scumlean.)

0verki11

(719 is a good post but that's about it. Scumlean.)

Chemist1422

(Low activity, though 912 is good. Still seems weird though.)

mbaki

(the lynch list in 403 is a blatant attempt to control votes, which benefits scum more than town.)

BrightEyedFish

(little info and activity... 231 isn't a good post as it says the chen vote is a defensive maneuver. 1170's reads feel forced.

Shadowlesscloud

(Your very low activity is very unsettling, and your ISO is dry of info.)

NanceFloor

(This isn't Dann's towngame, 411 and 417 make NanceFloor caught scum, 420, 424, 471, 833, 835, 917, and 1077 are wolfy reactions, and the readlist on 846 is forced. The heads still disagree with each other as evident in 1210. Scumlock.)

[Scum]

VOTE: NanceFloor

-TL

*not winning a paragon for this game*

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I think I don't like that list

+1

*possible paragon winner*

[NanceFloor]

why does that necessarily mean SvS

Scum have to have survivability more than to lynch the 8ball

Sure but you don’t think they’d ideally like to hit that if they could?

~ND

if I was scum I'd rather not hit the 8ball at all

Why not?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Fusco, why is Ank town to you?

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

The obfuscation argument was not mine.

Oka, read on tmck right now?

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

The obfuscation argument was not mine.

Oka, read on tmck right now?

- Floor

lynching tmck is lynching at variance in my opinion

This is not a read.

[NanceFloor]

on the other hand he lacks the survivalism that scum at minimum should possess because it would be a disaster if scum got lynched today

Where are you seeing he lacks survivalism?

His 3 scum reads coming in were at least somewhat popular.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

he isn't making an attempt at actively pushing a counterwagon to himself which should be his main priority as scum

How is BEF not a counter wagon?

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

Ankamius what do your psychic game-state reads tell you about this game

[NanceFloor]

Thanks Ank, that actually helps, have a good night

*hugs* Taly

I'm off for the night as well

We should lynch tmck

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

Nance might kill me for saying this but I'm thinking TD is town

Their insistence that this isn't my town game seems rlly pure

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

oh fuck i wasnt planning to show presence in thread just yet

fml shitposting is hardwork

also

*stares skeptically at near-universal townread on me*

If it makes you feel better, you're my second strongest scum read, but I'm too lazy to push you.

No way is Taly ever scum here, he is playing very similar to MD here.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

gun to head?

scum are very reactive atm

Unlikely. Just in my experience, fwiw.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Thanks Ank, that actually helps, have a good night

*hugs* Taly

I'm off for the night as well

We should lynch tmck

- Floor

I’m not completely convinced Dann.

[NanceFloor]

Then we're lynching Vedith.

jk

Poor Vedith.

[NanceFloor]

Ankamius
Taly
JohnnyEnglish
RadiantCowbells
Creature
Clemency
chennisden
BrightEyedFish
0verki11
mbaki
Fuscosco
Shadowlesscloud
themilkcartonkid
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Chemist1422
OkaPoka

Thanks for putting Johnny English so high up, and also next to his seal. And for your contribution towards UK National interests. We appreciate your support.

CB was pretty obvtown to me.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I don't think that BEFs 8 ball fixation is scummy and I would actually put it as a lot harder to fake than some of the other game entrances. Not sure why that's the wagon

+1

[NanceFloor]

Tiers not currently relevant
Also not lynching Ankamius today but thats not the same as town reading her

RC

{

TD

, Chennis, Taly}
{Okapoka}
{MBaki, BEF, Shadowless}
{Creature chemist Ankamius JE

So

Clemency

Nancefloor

Tmck
Fusco
And some other player

Spoiler:

[NanceFloor]

Tiers not currently relevant
Also not lynching Ankamius today but thats not the same as town reading her

RC

{

TD

, Chennis, Taly}
{Okapoka}
{MBaki, BEF, Shadowless}
{Creature chemist Ankamius JE

So

Clemency

Nancefloor

Tmck
Fusco
And some other player

Spoiler:

RC, never ever tell me again, you are good at reading me, kthanx.

[NanceFloor]

Overkill

I had some reason to not want to lynch them I think

Clem MF tmck fusco

Who tf is MF?

If you mean us, this is beginning to piss me off and yes, I will 100% give you shit for that. Bank on it!

And I tr Clem. Dann has way more faith in you than I do. Why is Fucosco scummy?

Can I seriously trust this from the paragon nominee who has Scum Devil as his top town? Nope.

[NanceFloor]

I'm really confused why I was scumreading NF in retrospect I don't think that slot is ever scum

I'm still wrong on at least one of my lower tier townreads / not lynch right now reads though

[NanceFloor]

RC
NF
Chennis
Taly
Time Devil

shouldn't have any scum

I guess I should.double check TD since nf was town

Spoiler:

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: bef

I don’t think BEF is scum.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

also, nance, why are you so interested in being TRed?

When am I not?

[NanceFloor]

bef, can you produce a small list of reads?

nance, why is rc town and their read so important to you?

tcmk
fusc
overki11
clem

why is clem scum? why are half your team lurkers? why is tmnt scum? this is kind of lazy

I'm not pushing you. don't give me shit for pushing you until I'm pushing you. If you're town I'll figure it out, let me do my thing until then.

It’s important to me that certain people be able to read me correctly. I don’t get too upset when people who I wouldn’t expect to be able to correctly read me, don’t.

Like I’m low level annoyed and amused with TD’s loldeathtunnel but it obviously doesn’t hurt my feelings or anything.

[NanceFloor]

idk i dont really have a meta of you

Well, I think my play has been mischaracterized as OMGUSsy when it hasn’t. What happened with me and Taly very early game was a complete misunderstanding. I didn’t understand why he voted us, until I realized that Dann had naked voted, since he had given me reasons in our DC.

And with TD, I presented a pretty decent case and from everything I’ve seen that slot just keeps deathtunnelling us and calling us “caught scum”, like about every other goddamned post. What is giving me slight pause is it looks like Bezeau head may actually be trying to evaluate us, so maybe than Temporal Mislyncher just sucks at playing mafia. \_0_/

[NanceFloor]

First they said scum for raisins
then it was guiltied scum
now its 'ima 180' on you


rc's been full of shit all day, and youre eating it up

Did you read the initial version of this setup? Town!RC did the exact same thing there.

Calling me “guiltied scum”, I mean but he told me later he was just trolling me in that. That’s why I was pissed when he did it again, eventhough I obviously knew that it couldn’t have been a serious push. Because last time, I did take it seriously and then the mod immediately locked the thread before I could defend myself. I was literally freaking out to the mod that RC was going to drive a mislynch on me and I would miss it, due to not having any clue when the thread would re-open. And I hardly got any sleep that night because of that and yes, RC knew damned well how I felt about that, so I was upset that he did that to me again, knowing how it had affected me last time.

While this is far from fullproof, I think scum!RC is far more likely to deathtunnel than town!RC. Also I think RC changing his mind a lot is somewhat town indicative.

[NanceFloor]

I dpont think it was omgusy. thats a broad brush stroke for your play, since omgusy is far more nuanced.

<3 Thanks for saying that.

How is it “nuanced”?

[NanceFloor]

do you still think td is scum?


if bef is not a good wagon, who is?

Probably, they are still my strongest sr but Bezeau head is causing me a bit of doubt. Temporal Mislyncher head has been actively scummy all game. First sr us then questioing that, then tr us, then pushing our mislynch as the anti 8 ball and then rb to sr us and calling us “caught scum” for reasons that make no sense to anyone other than him, apparently.

BEF just seems genuine to me. I also don’t get the Clemency srs. Why does scum!Clemency tr me here? I don’t see how he’s extremely different here than in UtS.

I’m having doubts on tmck, not enough to unvote him yet but far from convinced he’s scum. I didn’t like Overkill11’s 8 ball post but Dann rolled scum with him before and is convinced he’s playing differently here, so I’ll trust his read on that.

But yeah, I do think TD has objectively been the scummiest player in this game so far.

[NanceFloor]

was 'scumread you for reasons' really a reference to the last game?

No, I was town in that too. Didn’t you read the part, where I was freaking out to the mod, that I was worried about him driving a mislynch on me, that I wouldn’t be able to defend myself against?

[NanceFloor]

well first, omgus is kind of town at its base. its that scum can also do it to blend in.
then you have a hydra head who is objectively not omgusy.

I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever

this is omgusy

omgus involves making reads around the tunnel instead of making reads independent of that or even making a new read on your tunnel.
you havent reallllly been pushing the omgus as hard as i would expect you too... after all, you just caught scum red-handed, right?

If no one is listening to me, what seriously do you expect me to do? It’s not like I have a hard guilty on them. That doesn’t mean they can’t be my strongest sr. I work best with flips, they tell me a lot. If that slot doesn’t do something to town tf up soon, that will change. Rn, I think if they get anywhere near endgame, we could lose - irrespective of their alignment.

[NanceFloor]

Omgus is a shallow read that gets serious because of the confirmation bias effect.

I say something wrong, you react to that, I say more things to defend myself that reinforce the read with hostility, and it goes on.

Well I disagree that my post was OMGUSsy because I did and still do have damned good reasons for sr that slot and I’ve already given my case on it but so far, the only one to take it seriously has been my hydra partner, which is beyond frustrating. :/

[NanceFloor]

Didn’t you read the part

i didnt read the other game.

i dont know what happened there other than momo and inscissor plotting and 8balls

I said that RC called me “guiltied scum” in that too. We were both town in it.

[NanceFloor]

I think td is being lazy.
i think they wont make it endgame doing so
i also believe that they are better lynched another day, based on the benefit they give us. theres little info in it, and the chance of them flipping scum isnt superspectacular.

Why are you convinced they’re being “lazy”?

My strength early game is townblocking, I generally don’t have strong sr until usually D3.

[NanceFloor]

I thought she was stringing you around.

Yeah he was. He told me as much post-game.

[NanceFloor]

Nancefloor, who do you lynch RIGHT NOW if you had to?

I think I’ve made that abundantly clear but even my hydra partner is questioning it. :/

[NanceFloor]

What if

We didn't lynch BEF

thank you for coming to my TED talk

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

knock yourself out.

mbaki
taly
ank


^^^^
they arent watching this anymore

Taly isn’t scum, c’mon.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I need a case on why you think Taly is a deepwolf. Even then, I refuse to lynch Taly on D1.

hunh?

Maybe TD isn’t scum?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Oh god please wagon me

Do iiiiiiiit

VOTE: ank

I’m leaning light town, not interested in Ank lynch today.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

If you're considering a Shadowless lynch I'm going to point to 1532.

Sell me on Chemist, right now he pings me as an active lurker.

@Fuscosco: I need a case on why you think Taly is a deepwolf. Even then, I refuse to lynch Taly on D1.

-TL

I'm actively lurking.

If town wants to win this game, they should lynch TMCK today. Maybe Oka.

Btw, we are lynching for scum and not 8ball, but BEF is a very likely 8ball target and TMCK and Oka are almost never 8ball. Just a mention.

You don’t know that.

[NanceFloor]

I'm not leaning town on Ank but lynching her D1 would be bad

BEF is not as scummy as TMCK and he's one of the most likely 8ball selections on this player list. Lynching him would also be bad

I'm also confused by the amount of resistance behind other wagons for lack of a case when there really isn't a case on BEF

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

ew

[NanceFloor]

I feel like youre not taking our shitposting seriously.

I think this post is potentially Scummie worthy.

[NanceFloor]

@nancefloor

Join me on Chen. The deadline is getting close so if you want an alternative to my lynch, don't waste too much time

Why do you think Chenn is scummy?

~Nance

[NanceFloor]

????

I didnt say they were.

I said these are not following the game and have publicly said so.

Oh, that makes sense. Was wondering why you had a TR on the list.

I'm not leaning town on Ank but lynching her D1 would be bad

BEF is not as scummy as TMCK and he's one of the most likely 8ball selections on this player list. Lynching him would also be bad

I'm also confused by the amount of resistance behind other wagons for lack of a case when there really isn't a case on BEF

- Floor

I'm down with a TMCK lynch, his recent posts are scummy. 1546 has a lot of quotes that aren't necessary for the post and the incredibly confrusing statement "No, I think you and bef want to lynch chenn". Why do you think this TMCK?

1522 is very defensive and almost seems like TMCK is scum deliberately trying to avoid a scumread. I need explanations from that post.

PEdit: 1581 is pure OMGUS

PPEdit: I'm not voting Chen.

-TL

I think the Apocalypse just happened.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

ew

Dann, please sign, thanks. <3

[NanceFloor]

If you're considering a Shadowless lynch I'm going to point to 1532.

Sell me on Chemist, right now he pings me as an active lurker.

@Fuscosco: I need a case on why you think Taly is a deepwolf. Even then, I refuse to lynch Taly on D1.

-TL

I'm actively lurking.

If town wants to win this game, they should lynch TMCK today. Maybe Oka.

Btw, we are lynching for scum and not 8ball, but BEF is a very likely 8ball target and TMCK and Oka are almost never 8ball. Just a mention.

You don’t know that.

Yes, I do. When did you get this unwarranted huge ego? My last game with you you got almost policy lynched day 1 and acted all resigned.

Dafuq???

to both, if that isn’t clear. You weren’t in Necromancer and I was the complete opposite of “resigned” in that.

And how do you get “huge ego” from this post - warranted or unwarranted?

[NanceFloor]

viewtopic.php?p=10138142#p10138142

and speaking of that game, my page 15 lynch list contained all 3 scum.

So you’re Eddie Cane? How the fuck did you get my being resigned in that game and yeah, it was only my second game on site, so that was a dumb question.

[NanceFloor]

I'm about ready to promote BEF to a moderately strong townread solely based on that wagon composition

Nothing about the wagon has indicated to me that it's town-led thus far.

Either scum is full of the more seasoned side of the playerlist, or this game is very straight forward.

Yeah BEF is a horrible D1 lynch. I don’t want to touch that wagon today with a ten foot pole.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Taly, TMCK, Overkill, RC scum team

bye

Why Taly? Why RC?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Taly, TMCK, Overkill, RC scum team

bye

Why Taly? Why RC?

~ND

In Necromancer you had six possibilities for the scumteam? Why only four, here?

I really can’t see how Taly is ever scum here and I don’t see how RC is either.

If Taly winds up flipping scum, I’m nominating him for a Don Corleone because I totally can’t see it.

[NanceFloor]

Taly, why would you tell us you want to be scumread? why not . . . just act scummy? Or is your scumgame that good?

Taly said the exact same thing in MD. His slot got mislynched in SC 2, so I get the paranoia.

[NanceFloor]

christ i did? im trying not to be MD-Taly XD

or at least NOT

MD-Taly-Deepwolf Paranoia+Townbloccing Scum While Being Told I'm Being Pocketed For Defending TOWN

more like

MD+Taly-That's Trying To Filter All The Bullshit

It’s kind of a gutread. In both Labrynth and the scumgame of your Krazy linked, you came across kind of fake, so I’m townreading you mostly for genuineness here.

I also tl Ank more strongly than Dann. I don’t think scum!Ank has this kind of bite.

And if RC is actually coasting, isn’t that more town indicative for him? I still think RC town.

[NanceFloor]

In Necromancer you had six possibilities for the scumteam? Why only four, here?

this is part of why i dont see it as omgusy, nancy. cuz its kind of a personality thing, not a maf thing.

Yeah, probably.

[NanceFloor]

Taly, TMCK, Overkill, RC scum team

bye

Why Taly? Why RC?

~ND

In Necromancer you had six possibilities for the scumteam? Why only four, here?

I really can’t see how Taly is ever scum here and I don’t see how RC is either.

If Taly winds up flipping scum, I’m nominating him for a Don Corleone because I totally can’t see it.

Because this game is easy. Now let's lynch TMCK. Overkill is not the worst lynch either.

I’m not just taking your word for it. Again, why are Taly/RC scum?

I’m not opposed to either tmck/Overkill11 but Dan has hesitations on Overkill11 so I’m good with tmck.

I especially don’t see Taly scum here.

[NanceFloor]

And why do yuo think tmck is town?

Im not sure he is.

I was before.

I liked conf in general. Boons is a friend of sorts.
I liked his rqs, and response to being SRed for it
I liked him until about 1334. He starts defending chen, shading oka, and pushing onto me.

Chenn and BEF are almost always horrible D1 lynches. But it makes no sense for him to quote that Chenn post. There is absolutely nothing scummy about it.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler: tmnt thinks oka is town

Based on form taly chenn oka

I dont think it's the qualities of your reads that make you towny, it's your cluelessness and actual genuineness. Basically what nancefloor was saying about BEF but, you know, actually true. The reason Chenn us town is because they're actually trying and the only other game I had with them they didnt, and the pt showed they weren't just lurking because of irl stuff. Do you think shadow disappearing is AI?

And oka is driving town towards a lynch instead of letting them flounder

Spoiler: tmnt thinks oka is suddenly scum

Oka, why do you want shadow so much?

oka is town because theyre pushing their scumreeeeeads
and they arent pushing any one agenda.


do you think oka is fishing for a low hanger?

shadowless is the very definition of low hanging

I'm worried about this too. I liked the push, but I'm getting vibes because its hardcore shadow all the time and I didnt like okay response

And I kind of get this same impression of his read on me, tbh.

I really hated his post calling BEF, “obvscum”. That really pinged me, because I both me and Dann read his posts as genuine and he called them “fake”.

[NanceFloor]

Taly did his scum tell I'm not going to out, he is scum. I am not going to pursue that lynch today though. Its a magical powerful ultra secret super real super good tell.

Why won’t you out it? Have you considered the possibility that saying he outed this scumtell and not telling us what that is, won’t help us if you’re not in the game?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

ankle
kittybells
mbaki
confbias
clem
creature

rc isnt unkillable here.
mbaki is townish
confslot isnt really town
clem isnt town - theyre null to me

creature isnt in this game - oh wait

.

I tl both CB and Clem.
I tl CB

At any rate, RC and CB are never S/S or RC would have known they were in the game, from scum PT. So, the they are either both tvt or some combination of tvs, never SvS.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler: tmnt thinks oka is town

Based on form taly chenn oka

I dont think it's the qualities of your reads that make you towny, it's your cluelessness and actual genuineness. Basically what nancefloor was saying about BEF but, you know, actually true. The reason Chenn us town is because they're actually trying and the only other game I had with them they didnt, and the pt showed they weren't just lurking because of irl stuff. Do you think shadow disappearing is AI?

And oka is driving town towards a lynch instead of letting them flounder

Spoiler: tmnt thinks oka is suddenly scum

Oka, why do you want shadow so much?

oka is town because theyre pushing their scumreeeeeads
and they arent pushing any one agenda.


do you think oka is fishing for a low hanger?

shadowless is the very definition of low hanging

I'm worried about this too. I liked the push, but I'm getting vibes because its hardcore shadow all the time and I didnt like okay response

And I kind of get this same impression of his read on me, tbh.

I really hated his post calling BEF, “obvscum”. That really pinged me, because I both me and Dann read his posts as genuine and he called them “fake”.

Fusco is scum

I think if Fucosco is scum, he’s never scum with tmck or vice-versa.

[NanceFloor]

Hi there. I'll read up in a bit.

Hey Titus. <3

[NanceFloor]

Did you have to write essays in grade 8, RC?

I can't tell you the answer to that question because it might help you read me in future games

[NanceFloor]

Well, then I guess I can't answer 1674. Sorry

If I’m in LYLO with Taly, you might regret that.

[NanceFloor]

Nancy, please filter the questions you ask me through Dann.

I’m not filtering jack!

[NanceFloor]

Taly did his scum tell I'm not going to out, he is scum. I am not going to pursue that lynch today though. Its a magical powerful ultra secret super real super good tell.

Why won’t you out it? Have you considered the possibility that saying he outed this scumtell and not telling us what that is, won’t help us if you’re not in the game?

~ND

^^ Town or Scum with Taly

Where are you getting this from?

And how can I be town WITH Taly? There are no masons in this setup.

[NanceFloor]

Why am I scum and why is taly scum mbaki?

The other two are fine ish

+1

@mabaki, being disrespectful to me, doesn’t make your solve any damn clearer.

[NanceFloor]

Actually me and Titus are masons.

Yeah right.

[NanceFloor]

How much do you want to bet

The setup is now an open setup: There are 12 Vanilla Townies, 1 Town 1-shot Repicker, and 4 Mafia Goons:

Spoiler: 12 Vanilla Townies

Spoiler: 1 Town 1-shot Repicker

Spoiler: 4 Mafia Goons

Your life savings?

[NanceFloor]

I actively unlearned proper grammar and simplified my vocabulary to be more appealing in forum mafia.

I did it to rebel against academia

why is tmck town again

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

Actually me and Titus are masons.

Titus and I*

You’re channeling sheep now.

[NanceFloor]

is it me or is it strange that both heads of TD share a strong scumread on nancefloor

i mean

that has to be strange

This post got lost but it is a very good post

Sr nancefloor bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

This progression makes no sense.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Bright eyed fish is obvscum

Sr nancefloor bef mbaki.
Its 0030 I dead goodnight

Also who is shadow I havent seen them all game

Neither does this.

[NanceFloor]

The people tring bef why?

Do you have any specific questions or comments for me?

Okay, give me three srs and 3 trs

3 TRs:
NanceFloor
Creature
conf bias/je

3 SRs (note, these are more scum leans/trust issues than solid reads)
Taly (probably because I get mentally lost in Taly's posts)
mbaki

Can't come up with a 3rd SR right now while shooting this list from the hip.

While I’m not surprised you’re not sr us, I don’t understand why we’re your #1 town and how is Taly ever scum here?

My list wasn't in order but that being said, you are my #1 read.
Irt to Taly being in the SR list, I just haven't picked up on his posting flow and I am afraid to locktown thst slot atm.

See, this moved the goalpost a bit more than I'm comfortable with. Are they sr or are they weak townreads? Why mention them at all

Nitpicky

[NanceFloor]

I wanted to bait more people to discuss

overki11

and actually have them try to interact with me more directly, but I think I've caught on.

It's probably going to be a while before I can put together a real case. Nancefloir shouldn't be the lynch because I'm not 100% about it not being playstyle. The sea come from their almost exclusively AtE reasoning, a couple of weird almost slippy posts that I think I've shared a few of and the fact that all their srs are omgus. Bef sounds so increadibly stilted and unnatural. Mbaki... I had a reason but I'll have to remember what tired me was looking at. I think some obvious towns are taly, chenn, and oka. And again, I dont know who shadow less cloud is

You have one post to tell me why my scumread on

Nancefloor

was OMGUS. 406 768 821 955 (Better yet, point out what reads are OMGUS.)

And another to sell me on why

kittybells/mbaki/time devil

are all white noise here.

You have until after I leave the house, finish my test, go get immunizations, and then return. I'm leaving now.



The wine signifies the sand of an hourglass.

This has nothing to do with the quoted post? I dont think your vote is omgus, I think the opposite. I also havent read rc or timedevil so ? Mbaki I for some reason sred last night but I dont have a huge reason to today beyond an icky feeling

Mbaki seems town, obnoxious but still town.

[NanceFloor]

Two things I would like to discuss for fun, 1 why did you originally start mafia and 2 what power are you most looking forward to. I started mafia because I enjoy the roles, but I continue because I think it helps me read people irl. I am excited about using the all town group thing

I find this post interesting, considering that me and Dann haven’t even looked at the powers yet. We’ve been too damn busy making reads.

[NanceFloor]

If tmck is town and fusco is scum I'm powerlynching mbaki

Well, his solve would definitely be all wrong, so that makes sense.

Is he usually this confident as scum?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Lol Titus is a fun addition to this game. Our current history:

One of us almost always scumreads the other - sometimes both ways, almost exclusively incorrectly on both sides.

We define what real 1v1s are which are entertaining in retrospect

When one dies, the other follows not long after regardless of both of our alignments - the exceptions to this are one of us endgaming or winning.

Thoughts on Mbaki and that mysterious secret scumtell he allegedly caught you doing?

[NanceFloor]

he's tonally far more similar to his scum game and his woe with me approach to the game and whining about lynchbait makes sense as scum who needs an excuse for pushing mislynches

I'm not scum, taly isn't scum, I don't think TMCK is scum, so that really just leaves overkill to be scum on that list and that's a really weak slot regardless of alignment

If he’s town, he did catch the scumteam in Necromancer and I think tmck has more scum equity than Fucosco. And if tmck flips green, we can ignore his posts the rest of the game. Win/win.

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler: 1 Town 1-shot Repicker
TOWN 1-SHOT REPICKER
Welcome to Gameshow Mafia, Player, you are a Town 1-shot Repicker

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote to select a Power.
You have a vote to use in Powers.
Once during the game at Night, you may choose a power that has already been selected during a previous phase. That power will be automatically selected the next Day.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia aligned players are dead and at least one Town aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying to this role PM with your role and alignment.

Two things I would like to discuss for fun, 1 why did you originally start mafia and

2 what power are you most looking forward to

. I started mafia because I enjoy the roles, but I continue because I think it helps me read people irl. I am excited about using the all town group thing

This post superpinged me, because it read as straightup rolefishing.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

How is that rolefishing

He was hoping to maybe find out who the rolepicker was. RP can pick a power once at night during the game and if everyone answered that question or at least the player who is rolepicker, then maybe it could help scum possibly figure out who that is. I caught scum!SS for that in LNT but that was way more obvious.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I think it was more likely RQS.

Maybe but that much focusing on the powers atp, I don’t see as being superhelpful to sort. After all, scum can lie about their preferences.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

MU is way stricter

I called amrock a dumbass and got warned

I actually prefer that because MS’ fine line all too often gets buried. I think you ought to be able to say whatever you like about a person’s play but I’m not even sure half the time what MS even considers over the line.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

fun fact: one time I got a game ban on here for saying Fuck Off at the end of a post. I went into that mods post history and they had over 20 times they'd said fuck off, including many in the time they were a mod.

I have my own thoughts about that.

I definitely think there’s double standards on this site, which I won’t derail the game with.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Overkill is a good lynch too Taly, no need to feel bad. The wagons should be Overkill and TMCK, not BEF.

BEF wagon is pointless and anyone who’s town needs to gtf off of it.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

on one hand shoshin rep-out + attempt at rqs is kinda stupid

on the other hand he lacks the survivalism that scum at minimum should possess because it would be a disaster if scum got lynched today. unless he got 8-balled + scum but thats a very niche scenario considering shoshin was the old slot

Overkill is a good lynch too Taly, no need to feel bad. The wagons should be Overkill and TMCK, not BEF.

BEF wagon is pointless and anyone who’s town needs to gtf off of it.

~ND

I kinda want to, but I dont have another wagon option and it is better for bef to be mislynched than me

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

@mod, an updated votecount please?

[NanceFloor]

mbaki is also voting tmck

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

My butt is town because it's pretty obvious you're antispew anyway unless scum got town going to assume you have nothing else to do it again of the most interesting element from the game.

Did you just hit predictive text a bunch of times

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: Fuscosco

[NanceFloor]

Why is Chen scum?

[NanceFloor]

Too fake too aggressive just slipped w/taly

Do you really think scum!Chenn would be that much of an idiot to seriously knowingly push tpr?

Now that we know Mbaki’s tmck read was bs, I’m trusting RC again.

I think we’ll keep our vote where it is.

~ND

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

Chenn and BEF are horrible D1 wagons

.

Find a better one and we’ll talk.

Maybe Overkill11?

I don’t think I’m interested in voting anywhere else. But I don’t like your Chenn push, I think he’s townier than you rn.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Two things I would like to discuss for fun, 1 why did you originally start mafia and 2 what power are you most looking forward to. I started mafia because I enjoy the roles, but I continue because I think it helps me read people irl. I am excited about using the all town group thing

this was his crumb btw

@milk

this crumb got you ran up

:/

1 day, 14 hours, 21 minutes

, is the time until deadline from the moment i have started this post. not quite

"1 day"

just yet.

also, noting

overki11

started posting in thread around the time to avoid a prod, and my vanity vote on them...

tmck's

defense is just stating they're town.

in what world does town say a

scumread is a better mislynch than them

?

if all

{fusc, tmck, overki11}

are town then my read accuracy has either really devolved or site meta is uniquely weak this year.

with the wagon consolidation, im not feeling both wagons are scum hits but w/e, i think im white noise to half the playerlist atm

chenn

, do you have more than 3 to 4 reads? ive made several posts about you or directed to you but im still wondering if you know whether i exist in this game or not.

and yeah sure, a townbloc seems to be in the works but cohesion could definitely rise a notch or two... not that campaigning to have a lynch set in stone is the most effective route to mend this problem for the gamestate in my mind either.

i hope i dont wake up tomorrow to see a hammer, i dont trust this playerlist to evaluate when discussion remains to be necessary or not.

p-edit

chenn

im not following your scumread on

bef/tcmk

entirely, are they scumreads that are independent of each other?

p-edit again

Screw it we have a day. I'm 1 shot repicker. My role will work if I die the night of my action, I've already asked. If we hit scum I can 1 of 4 the next night if we vote it tomorrow but I dont need a hasty mislynch because I wouldn't claim. I can show crumbs. Also I'm pretty sure ank was trying to crumb it which is why I posted those for later posts. I'm on mobile and it's late but you can find them

UNVOTE:

im waiting for

ank/kittybells/titus'

input on their reads.

also

chenn

, were

bef/tcmk

scumreads indepndent of each other?

bef/tmck were mostly independent. i didnt like bef's early posting and i didnt like tmck's later posting

town block is chen/rc/taly

townish are nancy/chemist/mbaki

sortlist are shadowless/johnny/ank/oka

we lynch inside of fusco/bef/tmck/ok

Wait, you obviously did know. You posted he crumbed BEFORE you put him in your scum POE.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Chenn

[NanceFloor]

BEF is ideal here imo

If Chenn flips red, lynch this next.

[NanceFloor]

Vote fusco

Didn’t Chenn just slip?

He said tmck’s crumb got him “run up” and then he put him in his POE.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

the slip conjecture is moronic

Why?

Convince me and I’ll switch to Fucosco.

UNVOTE:

for now

[NanceFloor]

RC would use lynch BEF, and if you wont can I know why

I don’t understand what you’re saying here.

[NanceFloor]

BEF is The Ideal lynch

You seem way too adamant about this.

[NanceFloor]

Not voting Chenn. Trying to decide between Fucosco and Overkill11.

[NanceFloor]

Vote Count 1.2.14

BrightEyedFish (6): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil

(L-3)

chennisden (3): Titus, Fuscosco, OkaPoka
themilkcartonkid (2): BrightEyedFish, Chemist1422
Fuscosco (2): mbaki, RadiantCowbells
OkaPoka (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (3): Creature, Taly, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in

(expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

This is the most recent one.

[NanceFloor]

Dann, do you have me as lock town yet?

Alright, since both you and RC are voting Fucosco, I’ll sheep you.

VOTE: Fucosco

[NanceFloor]

like

VOTE: BEF
ez

BEF is ideal here imo

BEF is The Ideal lynch

RC would use lynch BEF, and if you wont can I know why

where does the idea that i want you to TR me even enter?

Youre pushing on bef hard bro.

Maybe this is better??

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Overki11

[NanceFloor]

Dann, do you have me as lock town yet?

Alright, since both you and RC are voting Fucosco, I’ll sheep you.

VOTE: Fucosco

I'm not really confident on the read, vote Overkill if you want or whoever else. I'd rather vote Fusco to sort RC more than the fact I have him as hard scum. That's not why I asked.

Not sure why you specified Dann but I don’t sr you.

Overkill11 is pushing BEF a bit too hard. Like he’s acting like BEF couldn’t be lynched D2, which is ridiculous.

[NanceFloor]

rather vote Fusco to sort RC more

we can sort them with a force-reveal

Yes, we don’t need a lynch to sort RF when we have reveal, so not a great reason for voting. I feel better lynching Overkill11. He’s saying BEF will get away with it if he isn’t lynched on D1. How does that even make any sense?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Dann, do you have me as lock town yet?

Alright, since both you and RC are voting Fucosco, I’ll sheep you.

VOTE: Fucosco

I'm not really confident on the read, vote Overkill if you want or whoever else. I'd rather vote Fusco to sort RC more than the fact I have him as hard scum. That's not why I asked.

Not sure why you specified Dann but I don’t sr you.

Overkill11 is pushing BEF a bit too hard. Like he’s acting like BEF couldn’t be lynched D2, which is ridiculous.

Dann's read matters specifically, cause on our history.

Fwiw I think Overkill is a better lynch than Fusco probably, he just has a

lot

of 8ball equity which makes me hedge on it.

And BEF doesn’t? Why couldn’t he be the 8 ball?

I can switch to Fucosco but like you, I feel way more confident on Overkill11 flipping scum. His insistence on BEF is making me think BEF might be 8 ball, because his insistence on him being D1 lynch, is pinging the hell out of me.

[NanceFloor]

rather vote Fusco to sort RC more

we can sort them with a force-reveal

Yes, we don’t need a lynch to sort RF when we have reveal, so not a great reason for voting. I feel better lynching Overkill11. He’s saying BEF will get away with it if he isn’t lynched on D1. How does that even make any sense?

~ND

ok think about it this way, would you rather lynch scum D1 or Scum D2?

Anyone who hardpushes a single slot to the extent you are, considering the 8 ball mechanic, is extremely suspicious.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Ya'll wanna hear the scummiest shit ever

I saw

more than one

PR soft from TMCK and still chose to lynch them. I don't even read for softs (as either alignment), for the most part, so if I picked up on it scum probably did too. So, he was either scum fake softing a PR, or scum already knew anyways, so I wanted to force the hard claim on principle. TMCK, in future games, soft better and generally you just don't need to soft in situations like this.

I buy his claim because I knew that question was specifically related somehow to that, so he was probably trying to get feedback on what power to pick.

[NanceFloor]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Fucosco

Fine. or if BEF is scum, you could be bussing but I’ll sheep mbaki and RC. Plus Dann probably fights me on my vote on you.

[NanceFloor]

Softing in this game is kind of pointless.

I dont deny his claim, but Ima say that mbaki isnt wrong here.

I think he wasn’t so much trying to soft but get feedback but it was definitely a mistake for him to have done it for whatever reason. His slot is self resolving anyhow.

[NanceFloor]

Dann, do you have me as lock town yet?

Lock town? No, not quite.

Strong town? Yes.

To be transparent, I have some amount of paranoia that you're actively attempting to be a caricature of yourself this game with posts like 762. Because no, I really doubt you forgot. This game does fit my meta with you well however; I'm just somewhat cautious about your ability to abuse that.

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

what.

this but applied at the whole game

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

This is our best shot. 1849 is a reason why Chenn is a bad wagon, and TMCK probably is the repicker.

-TL

is TL really always this scummy as town?

He's somewhat new? I think? TD strikes me as one of the most mislynchable hydras ever which is one of the primary reasons I've been less gung-ho about scum reading it as Nance has.

Though it's problematic when half the playerlist is very mislynchable.

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

If you're town, Fusco, I'd rather you vote Overkill.

+1

[NanceFloor]

Vote Count 1.2.13

BrightEyedFish (6): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, OkaPoka

(L-3)

themilkcartonkid (4): mbaki, NanceFloor, BrightEyedFish, Chemist1422, Taly
mbaki (1): 0verki11
OkaPoka (1): Ankamius
Ankamius (1): Fuscosco
0verki11 (1): Time Devil

Not Voting (4): Titus, Creature, RadiantCowbells

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in

(expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

lol

if BEF isn't the 8ball then I'd be really shocked

That’s why Overkill11 is my strongest scumread. They’re obsessed with lynching BEF D1. That can’t ever be town.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

BEF is ideal here imo

If Chenn flips red, lynch this next.

is there any universe where 0verki11 isn't the best d2 lynch?

I'm well back into scumreading him again, his posting since I went to bed reminded me all over again why I was scumreading him in the first place.

I’m fine with voting him. He’s eating rope no matter what the flip is but anyone who’s town needs to get tf off of BEF.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

BrightEyedFish (6): chennisden, themilkcartonkid, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil

(L-3)

like, again, this wagon is abominable

I'd actually support lynching Fuscosco just because I would bet anything that if Fuscosco is scum, one or both of 0verki11 and Time Devil is scum along with him.

Could well be. That would be cool if we’ve already caught 3/4s of the scumteam.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

hi nance

Hi, I’ve had a shitty day. It would be nice to get a scum lynch. I could really use some cheering up.

[NanceFloor]

i'm rly overgamed.

+1

I don’t even remember how many games I signed up for and that doesn’t even take into account offsite.

Effort is hard

Only when you can’t get into a game.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I want to vote overkill buuuuuuuuuut

Pretty sure he’s flipping scum.

[NanceFloor]

@mod, Can we please have an updated votecount?

Thanks.

[NanceFloor]

ahem doctor on me plz

[NanceFloor]

We should at least investigate nancefloor tonight

[NanceFloor]

If Fusco was the 8ball TD and RC are half the scum team. Mark my words.

Psure RC 8balls and lynches TD every time if that were the case

but I'd doubt this is the 8ball anyways

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

I can't even tell if you and Nancy are joking

It's me

I'm joking

I can't tell if TD is

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

The twilight trolling makes me think this is a town flip

Lol

I'm having severe flashbacks to FOTM

:/

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

Until 1/3 the game left

and we still couldn't solve the game

[NanceFloor]

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[NanceFloor]

this mbaki/RC thing seems unnecessary

[NanceFloor]

this mbaki/RC thing seems unnecessary

i was the first vote on the fusco wagon and herded votes onto him.

rc is trying to hand wave it like I hopped on for town cred. And, RC called my scum game bad two games ago, so if I'm such an easy read (even though he misread me in rapier), then I need to treat his terrible "mbaki is 100% scum" push as a scum claim. if hes town, playing with him is a fucking waste of time because hes scumreading me every game and this site circlejerks him so much now it's going to ruin playability.

I don't think the bolded is entirely correct.

I think he's wrong on you but I don't think his read is completely nonsensical when you consider you were trying to push tmck while he wanted fusco

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: coalition

[NanceFloor]

ok ok i counterclaim repicker i am the real repicker tmck is confirmed scum

wait but im the repicker

[NanceFloor]

3 confirmed scum

okapoka nancefloor tmck

ring 'er up

can we concede guys

[NanceFloor]

Repicker would be conf town by end of this phase thus if they are duplicated its okay because it is preferable to PoE from a pool of 4 than 5.

where the fuck are you getting pool of 4 from

[NanceFloor]

RC, can I have confirmation that you are/are not the repicker? If that's a real cc then the game plan shifts.

@nancefloor read some of my earlier posts

I have read them

I'm not sure you understand how coalition works

[NanceFloor]

jesus fucking christ

[NanceFloor]

No it's two separate pools of 4?

Town by majority vote choose a majority group of players

(half living players rounded down plus one, equal to power selection threshold)

in the game. If all chosen players are town, town immediately win. Otherwise, the game continues into Night phase with no deaths, and the Mafia cannot kill that Night.

[NanceFloor]

Isn't Dance somewhat bad because mafia is almost always going to pair with obv town or strong town and there's enough LHF in this game that trading 1 for 1 isn't guaranteed?

[NanceFloor]

Like I feel like mafia having control over the pairs is bad

but maybe I just have Merchant's Daughter ptsd

[NanceFloor]

P.S. I have about 40% confident RC is floundering scum.

huh

if RC is scum then he wanted Fusco to die and the game is going the way he wants it to

I don't think he "flounders" as scum? Not that I agree he's floundering now

[NanceFloor]

your issue here is your failure to understand sarcasm: the 3 confirmed scum was a joke
i have 1 player who I think is >90% scum and who really needs to die b/c they won't get lynched i don't do it (mbaki)

and no real way of weeding through the other slots that i hate.

mbaki was first on the scum lynch. Why should we suspect him?

this is a bad reason to town read mbaki

I'm not saying he's scum

but considering the full context of the day I think that specifically is a bad reason

[NanceFloor]

mbaki is 100% scum by the way.

Why?

This is Nancy btw. Dann forgot to sign.

[NanceFloor]

this mbaki/RC thing seems unnecessary

it's entirely necessary he's scum.

I don’t see how mbaki is scum here?

Enlighten me.

~N

[NanceFloor]

i'm going to literally no comment on the first coalition and even ask to be excluded from it.
then I get absolute control over the second coalition if/when it fails.

no.

not putting you in a coalition is game throwing.

I’m not really understanding what coalition does. Can someone explain it to me?

~Nancy obviously

[NanceFloor]

like there's no reason tmck would have been softing from early in the game as scum. he's town. idk what you think is going to happen.

+1

Agree with this or scum would have CC’d him.

~N

[NanceFloor]

also I want to repeat that the two coalitions MUST BE DIFFERENT

other than our guaranteed town

So no, RC cannot be in both coalitions.

I’m really confused about the coalition power.

So, I will sheep my strongest trs unless someone can explain it to me.

[NanceFloor]

i have a better plan.

we kill mbaki then do whatever we've done before.

Why kill mbaki?

~N

[NanceFloor]

ok ok i counterclaim repicker i am the real repicker tmck is confirmed scum

What?


~N

[NanceFloor]

ok ok i counterclaim repicker i am the real repicker tmck is confirmed scum

wait but im the repicker

No, you’re nsg.

~nsg

[NanceFloor]

okapoka must also be scum because he tmid the knowledge that tmck was fake

so we have guilties on okapoka and tmck

gg

Link or quote?

Thanks.

~N

[NanceFloor]

3 confirmed scum

okapoka nancefloor tmck

ring 'er up

No, are you trolling me again?

~N

[NanceFloor]

Oka, do you UNDERSTAND what coalition is?

I don’t.

~N

[NanceFloor]

3 confirmed scum

okapoka nancefloor tmck

ring 'er up

can we concede guys

Dann

[NanceFloor]

P.S. I have about 40% confident RC is floundering scum.

Why?

~N

[NanceFloor]

Oka, do you UNDERSTAND what coalition is?

I don’t.

~N

Coalition:
Selectable only with less than 3 Mafia dead.
Town by majority vote choose a majority group of players (half living players rounded down plus one, equal to power selection threshold) in the game. If all chosen players are town, town immediately win. Otherwise, the game continues into Night phase with no deaths, and the Mafia cannot kill that Night.

Coalition:
Vote for players in this manner: VOTE: A, B, ... , X. Votes will be considered the same if they are on the same set of players, regardless of the order. If the vote is on a wrong number of players, the vote will be moved to Not Voting.
If a majority group is not selected by deadline, the power is forfeited and the game will proceed into Night phase.

So basically, if I understand it right myself. .. We select 9 players (with 16 alive now). If all of those players are Town then it's game over with a Town victory.

Yeah, I think that’s our best option, so long as we can correctly identify half the town right?

~N

[NanceFloor]

imo D1 scum lynches are antitown

Bad for town or antitown? Not always. Town should always try to lynch scum, anything else is gamethrowing.

~N