Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

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Pink Ball replaces Ankamius

. Please welcome him!

HEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY!

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Why is everyone voting like four people at the same time

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Really?!? That's bananas

I like bananas

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So that's all I have to know about this game? The voting mechanic is you veto 4 people and scum can only nightkill between those 4? What if we veto only scum? How many scums are in this setup?

I'll eventually read *something* but eventually is not now

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So that's all I have to know about this game? The voting mechanic is you veto 4 people and scum can only nightkill between those 4? What if we veto only scum? How many scums are in this setup?

I'll eventually read *something* but eventually is not now

They kill twice in the group. Setup starts with 4 scum. We lynched one.

Thanks El Pingüino!

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El Pingüino, the coalition is the thing we're voting for? The four players who can get nightkilled? Being in the coalition is bad?

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Oooooh that's spicy

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themilkcartonkid, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, Creature, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency

That's the coalition you're talking about, right? Damn it I'll read the rules I don't understand anything

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Ok I read what the Coalition and Veto powers are (and why we are voting powers on not just lynching like normal human beings).

What was the discussion towards chosing Veto? We would have to vote for the remaining three scums if we want them to shoot themselves, right? Seems difficult to do

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Could you explain that to me like I'm 2 years old? I'm actually 3 but I skipped kindergarden

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And has the playerlist agreed with your plan? Or is someone opposed to it?

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And has the playerlist agreed with your plan? Or is someone opposed to it?

People want to put the entire scumteam in it to try and get a scum death. While I feel it's a noble goal, it's unlikely even if we had consensus reads.

No one's outright opposed to the plan, they just think the other way is better. I'm in favor of noose tightening, particularly with Creature's OMGUS.

My point is that, if no one disagrees, there's a fat chance that the whole scumteam isn't in the first coalition. Otherwise, at least someone would jump saying "hey I think this is not a good idea" 'cause the scumteam would lose when the next coalition is formed.

So assume there's only 2 or 1 scum in the first coalition. What would your plan be?

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Omg

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It's the Lyncher master himself

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Wait, the scumteam can kill the 4 players vetoed? I thought it was max 2

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I'll let you guys discuss about this. Gotta go sleep. I'll read some ISOs of players I know I can read and that will be my grain of sand

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Ok, I've read a little, specifically 200 posts from Nancy and Dann.

Nancy, Danny boy, what should I look at next?

Also Dann, eh... congratulations on breaking my heart once again.

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I thought you said TD and Chen were town 0K? Why would you put TD on your list after that?

I think your ISO could be the next thing to read. You replaced in or are you here from the start?

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Don't answer, you were mbaki, just checked

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Haha BEF was mislynched again

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I want you to be direct with what you're saying, 'cause "prefer town, haven't been wrong yet" is not the same as "I thought this was a town slot and I wasn't wrong". Could you confirm that?

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And that read was town? Sorry for being picky, it has a purpose

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Perfect. I'm giving you the Mathdino treatment for now then, that way I can save time and focus elsewhere. Good job, Bunny!

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Non existent, as I've only read Nancefloor's ISO and nothing else. I don't even know who TD is.

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PB do you think nancefloor are town?

I want to interact with them before answering this

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0verki11, Chemist1422, Clemency.

What do they all have in common?

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0verki11, Chemist1422, Clemency.

What do they all have in common?

Not strong tr?

I mean in general, not in this particular game.

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Sigh...

I ask again: 0verki11, Chemist1422, Clemency. What do they all have in common?

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Lynchbait?

Yes. And right now, those three players are in the most voted veto convo right now.

Who's pushing for that, town or scum?

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Sigh...

I ask again: 0verki11, Chemist1422, Clemency. What do they all have in common?

Who do you think is scum in the coalition and what did you think about Ank’s reads?

I don't remember who was in the coalition, and I haven't read anything about Ank.

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PB I'm getting worried about you.

I'm not concerned about your worrying, you've been worried since I replaced in, I think you've said at least three times things oriented to me like "will you put some effort?" or "what's your opinion on this or that?". I replaced in a game with 180 pages on a weekend, I'm not planning to change things drastically on this game even if my opinion is very very different to the most active slots.

You want something from me? I'll give you two and a half things:

1. I don't like the coalition thing 'cause people is being too agreable on including 3 players who are usually mislynched because of personality and gamestyle traits instead of what they've contributed; that gives the scumteam a scapegoat if everyone in that pool is town. Overkill is always scummy, Clem I can get a read on him if I get the motivation but we all know how Clem plays, and Chem we just finished a game where the scumteam was planning to leave him alive until LyLo 'cause he was mislynchable through the entire game, because he was always behind and "scum coasting" as someone said here".

2. Nancefloor is very likely scum. Dann is in the backseat drinking his matcha tea while Nancy pushes whatever the game gives her. I have experience with both players, and I have a scumread on both separately and it happens to be they're playing in the same slot. I can give a more "in detail" read about Nancy specifically if needed, but it's practically the same read I made in Undertale D1. I see much more similarities to that game than Starcraft 3 where we played together as the mighty Powerpuff Girls.

0,5. If Nancefloor is scum, which is very likely, RC is probably their partner, and that would explain many things about the gamestate right now. Since this is a conditional it's not a full "thing", but it's a thing nonetheless.

So no, I'm not happy with the 4 players who are in the veto right now, 'cause it doesn't include my two biggest scumreads right now and includes 3 out of 4 players I think are town only because of the gamestate ('cause I haven't read anything about them except Moon): Moon, Chem and Clem. I actually think Overkill is a good inclusion 'cause, of what I've seen, he could be scum with Nancefloor because of the latest interactions. Also, including 3 town/1 scum in the veto means the scumteam kills Moon and probably Chem and they don't have to worry about Overkill until later.

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I know what you were doing. I just wanted more time to get more interactions. But of course I have first impressions

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Moon, I assume by what I'm reading on this page that you agree on scum!RC?

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can someone other than RC tell me why PB deserves to be in the veto?

-TL

I think it's because both Moon and me are scumreading both Nancy and RC, so they're creating this sort of dichotomy in which it's a 2Sv2T, but even if they think that it's pretty stupid 'cause both T in that dichotomy will die and both S can get away with it the next day, especially if one of those S is RC, which makes sense why RC is content with that dichotomy.

I don't mind being killed 'cause I'm the latest replacement and I'm not planning to read the whole game, but Moon shouldn't be in the veto. I prupose Overkill instead of Moon.

VOTE: NanceFloor, RadiantCowbells, 0verki11, Pink Ball

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Oh, 0verki11 wasn't in the coalition. My bad.

UNVOTE:

I don't know who else I want in the veto from the coalition tho.

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Overkill is town and the plan is to kill him and me and still mislynch NF later

If I was scum, you know that I would kill you and Nancy and mislynch 0verki11 lol

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Nancy already spewed town on me. She called me obvtown because of my entrance who she called "sincere", and then changed the rethoric to "I'm mainly townreading you because of Ankamius so I need you to read what she was doing". NanceFloor is scum, therefore I'm town. I'm pretty ok with that statement.

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Overkill is town and the plan is to kill him and me and still mislynch NF later

If I was scum, you know that I would kill you and Nancy and mislynch 0verki11 lol

U don't walk away from me/Nancy flips

Same reason that Moongrass is trying to set up to call us scum individually if one of us flips town

I don't get what you're implying here, but sure

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Oh, 0verki11 wasn't in the coalition. My bad.

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I don't know who else I want in the veto from the coalition tho.

Overkill would be who I'd veto if forced too. The three Cs are a good start. Particularly Creature. His posting here is garbage.

Ok ok I'll read both Chem and Clem's ISOs. But isn't Creature like really easy to read by some people?

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Done with Chemist. He's town. Clem's next

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Titus, read Chemist's ISO in Undertale

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It's the Lyncher master himself

you read that game?

Of course I did, you were the star in it, that makes it the most interesting game of all.

You're always the star, tho

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Titus, read Chemist's ISO in Undertale

Why? I don't do meta.

'Cause you'll probably find the same traits that are making you scumread him in there, and he was town.

Done with Clem too. I'm not as sure 'cause Clem is awesome, but there's something Clem almost always does when he's scum and he hasn't done it in this game. Since it's "almost always" and not "always", I can't call him town for it, but because of numbers, I'm townleaning him.

So there you have it, the lynchabaits are town.

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D3 he tries to control the coalition, then takes no part in forming it because he wants to use our repicker to create his own coalition...which he still hasn't shared btw...so he whined, then tried to waste our repick after coalition was an obvious fail.

He's trying to imply that I caused the first coalition to fail to discredit my coalition then says that giving me the coalition is 'wasting' it

When I flip town it should be really obvious that the last thing scum would have wanted is to let me coalition and potentially just have an unanswerable wincon for town

Btw the two people who took the lead on taking potshots against me? PB Moongrass. The same two slots that ragequit at about the same time when I was going to lead a coalition without either of them in it. Ank even tried to stop the coalition while she was around by pushing some dumbass 'but it won't give me personally any information!' crao

I really don't know why you keep dragging me into this lol. I don't even fully understand what the plan about coalitions and whatsoever is.

I'm scumreading NanceFloor, and if they flip scum, which they will, you're probably their partner for what I've read. Old fashioned mafia, babyeee

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I'm scumreading NanceFloor, and if they flip scum, which they will

oh boy I don't know if I'm gonna be able to stop Nancy death-tunneling you after that idiotic statement

That's not very kind of you to say

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I'm scumreading NanceFloor, and if they flip scum, which they will

oh boy I don't know if I'm gonna be able to stop Nancy death-tunneling you after that idiotic statement

That's not very kind of you to say

this game doesn't make me feel very kind

I understand. But it's not very intelligent to death-tunnel me instead of work with me I think. I mean, you've already stated I'm obvtown because of my entrance AND because of my predecessor. So scumreading me now that you know I'm scumreading you is not a good idea in the slight chance we're both town here.

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I understand. But it's not very intelligent to death-tunnel me instead of work with me I think. I mean, you've already stated I'm obvtown because of my entrance AND because of my predecessor. So scumreading me now that you know I'm scumreading you is not a good idea in the slight chance we're both town here.

I'm Dann

My reads are not Nancy's

Oh I thought Nancy was talking in third person and it was hilarious. This makes more sense.

What have you been doing Danny boy?

p-edit: I know how Nancy works towards other players, not with me. I'm a very good Nancy reader and she knows it.

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Just to be clear, and I think it will probably be the last time I address this: do you really think I replace into a game with 180 pages into a slot that apparently wasn't in danger, claim I'm not going to read it, scumread both a slot with Nancy Drew 39 and RadiantCowbells and think I can get away with it as scum? C'mon, you're either giving me way too much credit, or you're pushing some kind of agenda. RC falls in the second category, for example.

Look, I'm going to impersonate Chandler Bing and say, "could I BE any more obvtown?"

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What have you been doing Danny boy?

absolutely nothing

-d

Yeah, kinda the impression I had.

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What have you been doing Danny boy?

absolutely nothing

-d

Yeah, kinda the impression I had.

which like i can play the self meta game until the universe ends

but id rather die than have a scum game like this

What do you mean by "a scum game like this"?

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Do you get nervous speaking to me, Danny boy? Wink wink

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VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Creature, Pink Ball

Whatever. We're all four in the previous coalition and I replaced way too late to be useful. Especially if Nancy starts treating me like shit only because I think she's scum. It's a fucking game, have some fucking respect.

Bye.

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Fuck off

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This conversation doesn't help. Just vote the veto, do the coalition tomorrow and move on please.

I'm not having a conversation. This is a monologue.

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PB don't bend. Who do you scumread besides those who must not be acknowledged?

Titus what's the two PoE pools if your second coalition faila?

I'm sorry, it's not about bending, it's about lines being crossed.

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Yes I get it, I'm pissed off too but that's the tactic. Demoralize town until they can't be fucked doing anything anymore.

Welp, I come to this site to have fun. It's a game after all. If there's people that cares so much about winning, that's cool, but I'm not staying.

p-edit: haven't read about either of those slots and probably won't

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Yes I get it, I'm pissed off too but that's the tactic. Demoralize town until they can't be fucked doing anything anymore.

Welp, I come to this site to have fun. It's a game after all. If there's people that cares so much about winning, that's cool, but I'm not staying.

PB talk to me about Chen town and what's your read on TD?

p-edit: haven't read about either of those slots and probably won't

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VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Creature, Pink Ball

Whatever. We're all four in the previous coalition and I replaced way too late to be useful. Especially if Nancy starts treating me like shit only because I think she's scum. It's a fucking game, have some fucking respect.

Bye.

I don’t respect you for trying to mislynch obvtown me, sorry. I just got mislynched and it totally fucking messed with me. I’m truly sorry if you can’t understand that. I 100% mean that.

If you really think there’s a world where I’d ever react that way as scum, you really don’t fucking know me as well as you think.

No, I agree. I'm pretty sure you're town now. But at what cost?

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Fuck off

You’ve got a helluva a lot of nerve saying that to me and you will realize that after my flip.

The "fuck off" was related to how you pretty much harassed me on your latest posts, not about your alignment. 'Cause as I already said, I think you're town now.

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Yes I get it, I'm pissed off too but that's the tactic. Demoralize town until they can't be fucked doing anything anymore.

Welp, I come to this site to have fun. It's a game after all. If there's people that cares so much about winning, that's cool, but I'm not staying.

p-edit: haven't read about either of those slots and probably won't

Sorry if I don’t want to be mislynched again. You’re being a total hypocrite here. You posted right in the ban thread that you hate anyone who wrongly sr you. So how are you suddenly so devoid of empathy?

I only accept being scumread when I'm scum. If you scumread me when I'm town, you're wrong and I hate you

Can someone tell me if I'm dellusional or is it pretty obvious this was intended as a joke?

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I took it seriously. I’m truly sorry if I offended you but you are being unfairly unsympathetic.

No, I'm not. I understand how you feel when you get mislynched. But I thought you would act different because it was me and not a random player. I was wrong.

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Lol I'm not trying to make you feel like shit Nancy, I don't try to make anyone feel like shit. I'm just hurt.

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Town 1-shot Repicker

Welcome to Gameshow Mafia, Player, you are a

Town 1-shot Repicker

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote to select a Power.
You have a vote to use in Powers.
Once during the game at Night, you may choose a power that has already been selected during a previous phase. That power will be automatically selected the next Day.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia aligned players are dead and at least one Town aligned player is alive.

Please confirm by replying to this role PM with your role and alignment.

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Whoops, beat me to it

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Nancy, please don't worry, I believe you're sorry and I don't take this too seriously

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nance feels pretty town here tho

They are.

We should stick with Titus plan

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I really think vetoing the LHFs from the coalition is the best way to get this game going. Titus is right, her plan is cool, let's follow it and move on. (I don't think I'm a LHF but I repped in the last and that makes me less useful than the rest)

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I really think vetoing the LHFs from the coalition is the best way to get this game going. Titus is right, her plan is cool, let's follow it and move on. (I don't think I'm a LHF but I repped in the last and that makes me less useful than the rest)

But I think you’re town. I hard townread you, Sky and RC and I don’t want you to die :/. I also think Moon is scum. The only non-lhf in the coalition that I am less confident on is Creature.

So, is 3 coalition members I’m not hard townreading + my strongest sr a bad compromise?

It doesn't matter if you think I'm town, the chance of catching the whole scumteam in the veto is really low; I would even say impossible 'cause there must be scum outside the previous coalition. But it's forcing the scumteam to kill slots that are better solved by flipping than other ways. We have to leave our own scumreads aside and get rid of stinky slots. Also, mechanically speaking, what Titus is proposing will eventually solve those scumreads. Now's not the time

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PB I don't understand how you advocate in good faith not clearing the coalition when you think that I'm scum

If we veto up the coalition list I'm eventually gonna be cornered. If not, you have to catch both scum while having no leverage to prevent me from derailing lynches on my buddies.

That's why I think you're scum by the way

Moongrass too is just coming up with reason after reason to not give me coalition and not really contributing anything else

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I don't think you're scum. I clearly stated that my scumread on you was conditional to my NanceFloor scumread, which I flipped after Nancy's reaction to my scumread. So now I changed the approach and I'm happy with being part of the veto. It would be pretty cool if you stopped calling me scum when I'm pretty obvtown, you're not helping your own slot.

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I'm not acting like a martyr, I know I can still be alive after being vetoed lol

RC, saying this things right now is just creating WIFOM towards my slot and basically making sure I won't be killed if I get vetoed. Play like the godtier player you think you are

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PB is scummy with wanting to be veto'd but ehhhhhh

Describe your feelings

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I'm not making a show, I'm just agreeing with Titus' approach, and I'm not even saying I *want* to be vetoed, rather saying I'm ok with it 'cause I don't know who's a better candidate. And exactly: since I don't know if I'm dying or not, it's not like a self-vote situation where "if you know you're town you shouldn't be voting yourself".

I'm being pretty objective with this matter: my slot is down with the LHFs 'cause I repped in too late and it is not in my plans or intentions to read the game as a whole. Is there another slot that should be vetoed rather than me and/or the LHFs?

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It's pretty biased that RC says that makes PB scummy when he seemed to townread 0K around the time he was putting himself in the veto.

RC wants me to be scum 'cause I called him scum, it's as simple as that. I'm hoping he realizes that he's being daft, especially since I'm not even scumreading him.

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It's pretty biased that RC says that makes PB scummy when he seemed to townread 0K around the time he was putting himself in the veto.

RC wants me to be scum 'cause I called him scum, it's as simple as that. I'm hoping he realizes that he's being daft, especially since I'm not even scumreading him.

I disagree with him but I don’t agree with you that it’s an OMGUS. He was pinged by Ank’s begging to be in veto prior to your replace in. Honestly, you’re wanting to be in veto is the only thing concerning me because I still think my 2 coalition member + 2 consensus sr is best, problem for me is I’m only really confident on one. I don’t think you should be okay with being vetoed. We both know that you’re really good at catching scum so why deprive town of that?

I'm not *that* good at catching scum, even less in this game in particular because of repping in. I think you got this.

If it wasn't for the previous coalition thing, I wouldn't veto myself. But Titus' plan sounds good so why not follow it?

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Clem is probably scum

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RC, is somebody actually pushing you right now?

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Is somebody really pushing you right now, RC?

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Hey RC

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hi

What up man how's it going

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not the best. I have bronchitis and haven't been able to sleep b/c of the cough

Is it cold over there? Stay safe man, maybe drink something like Moon suggested. Fucking hate a sore throat, like what the fuck is worse than your throat, nostrils or ears failing when they have always been there for you.

For real, hope you get better

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For fucks sake, Moon is not in the previous coalition. Could you all follow the fucking plan? Jeez

VOTE: Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, Skygazer

Final offer

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I don't know how answering that question would help you sorting me, Nancy, but I'm not answering it 'cause I'm not putting more effort in this game that I have already put, sorry.

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I don't know how answering that question would help you sorting me, Nancy, but I'm not answering it 'cause I'm not putting more effort in this game that I have already put, sorry.

Because I think you’re town and this would help me lock you in. I wish you would put in the effort, because it would make much easier to convince Titus and everyone to sheep my 3 person coalition but if you’re not willing to do that, I will probably wind up having to sheep her and I’m going to be really pissed at you, when I get proven right about you flipping town.

Pissed at me?!?!?!? Pffffffft

I'm sheeping Titus too, you should be doing the same

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Nancy, being in the veto is not gamethrowing. I've explained like a thousand times why I think I'm a good option to be in the veto. I fucking KNOW I'm town and I want to be in the veto 'cause it will be better in the long run. So please for the love of god, stop implying I should do something else.

p-edit: you don't know what the scumteam will do, do you? You don't know if I'll be dead or alive tomorrow if I'm in the veto.

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VOTE: Creature, Chemist, Clemency, Pink Ball

I think that's the hammer.

Ego bet: NanceFloor, RC and Sky. Byeeeeeee

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Bye bye Nancy!!

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Maybe. Not that I even care. You do know I don't care, right?

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Maybe. Not that I even care. You do know I don't care, right?

Like how much of this game have you even read?

FINALLY!!!!!

Do you get now why I should be in the veto?? Do you get my point? Nancy, it's a 200+ pages game where I repped in; I'm in not a good place IRL right now; I repped in 'cause I was in the rep list since the begining and saw that this game has had a loooot of replace outs so I wanted to help and get the game on track; and I made enough interactions so the people can get whatever they want to get after my slot being nightkilled. My job is done, Nancy! My reads don't matter, that's not the point!

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Problem is that Moon wasn't in the first coalition and I would've loved to veto people outside the first coalition, but the game would've turned into a mechanical clusterfuck where, instead of discussing reads, people would've kept discussing if what Titus' plan was the ideal thing to do or etc etc. I understand this is a setup that is oriented towards its mechanics, but holy fuck since I repped in people hasn't talked about their reads like at all. That's not a good gamestate. And chances of hitting the three remaining scums in the veto is near to 0, not only because it's difficult to know who the remaining scumteam is, but because the scumteam wouldn't let that happen. And from the 8 players who were in the previous coalition, one is conftown, and the other three is RC, Sky and you, so it HAD to be me and the C Crew.

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I'll feel better eventually, thanks for worrying Nancy <3

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RC, is somebody actually pushing you right now?

Is somebody really pushing you right now, RC?

Hey RC, did you realize what I was doing here?

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No, not really.

btw if i was town with the amount of people pushing me on D2 I would have pretty much did exactly what I did in terms of not really efforting anymore.
the only difference is I was intentionally baiting that so I could justify not efforting
the solution was actually to not push on me on D2 so that I don't have an excuse for not efforting

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I called you scum when I died and then I stopped caring. The dead thread was, well, pretty dead

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I didn't say it but when chennis was flipped I thought you were town

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sorry for being grumpy this game PB and for killing you I think my slot helped in that

also apologies to Baezu for any bullying that was certainly not my intention at any point

I was probably meaner than usual this game just because it frustrated me so much

Don't worry man this game was frustrating as fuck, I could feel it as soon as I got here

I didn't say it but when chennis was flipped I thought you were town

I still don’t understand how you could have ever sr me? Like I couldn’t have been more obvtown if I had posted my role pm.

There were some similarities to your scumgames at the begining of your ISO, but you spewed town later. I just had the feeling that both RC and you were controlling the game, but it was just RC pocketing you, so I wasn't THAT wrong

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I might not have gotten so upset that I left had you stayed, taly

Hey, look at the bright side: I got into this shitfest thanks to your replacement!

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hmmshit