BTE: Boon Wars - The Boondom Menace

[Vorkuta]

Hello fellow comrades
We make trade negotiation yes?

(Hello again to literally everybody here, and nice to meet Joan of Arc and Frozen Angel)

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Papa dinosaur, are you a jedi or a sith?

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even though attack is a better star wars episode.

Yes but menace had darth maul and duel of the fates

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Oskar Schindler

Liam Neeson portrayed both quigon and Shindler

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Like is this a mechanical ability or was this a mod decision?

I'm 90% sure that this is mechanical- that's the whole point.

I mean it doesn't affect us too much (noooo papa dinosaur.....) but yeah

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Kotor II > Kotor I (with mods) > Jedi Academy > Battlefront II (not the new one duh) > 5 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 7 > >Log 1 > 2 > 8 (I liked ONLY the cinematography and nothing about the plot in TLJ) > 1 (aha....ahaaa....ahaaaaaa.... now this is podracing) > Any game about SW that EA has had a part in

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I didn't watch solo

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Unrelated but how about other media?
The retconned EU?
The Old republic?

Bloodlines?
The clone wars? (tartakovsky's not the abomination)

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RTS computer game

Empire at War?

Hard pass for me- anything with Mara Jade and EU stuff is just guh

[Vorkuta]

the singleball game

Riiiiight.....

VOTE: xtoxm

[Vorkuta]

Log one has amazing side characters and cast (jet-li, Alan tudyk) but..... not happy not happy

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the singleball game

Riiiiight.....

VOTE: xtoxm

Shoot-misread/misinterpreted/was high when I read that

VOTE: Krazy

[Vorkuta]

Wow you guys with your luxury of picking and choosing which game you're in *smh*

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

NC needed to be away from DrEB

[Vorkuta]

Sorry you have to deal with NC

Tovarish NC is true patriot and fights valiantly against class struggle and injustice!

*ahem*
Idk I think we meld quite well and get along nicely

If it’s any consolation I’m happy you’re here!

<3 you too- if you want to both switch to the other game because you don't like podracing or something hit me up and let me know

Oh god

If podracing is a relevant flavor/game-mechanic in this game, I will throw stuff at people

[Vorkuta]

*tinfoil time*
This is the next cologne

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Whatever let me just wagonhop on VOTE: Joan d'Arc

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h i b i n s y

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Joan. Claim the exact name of your role.

Reflexive Friendly Neighbor Neighbor.

reasons

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Why was this claimed SO DAMN EARLY
I don't like it- neither the nature of the claim, nor the prompting, nor the lack of any "decent" attempt to resist and not out this crucial roie.
I also hate appeals like "any town voting me.... is voting against their wincon"- that's just personal gut preference, but meh.

This is a conscious anti-town play, and seeing as Joan'dArc is a good player (based on the interactions with a few other people), I think this comes from scum.

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do you think DEB is acting the same way he was in my game

The game where he was a VT.... and without any star wars flavor to pique his curiosity and help his engagement.... that game?

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Gah you're right- there's no way in hell it gets a majority today.

This is to express my disapproval at Joan's slot and role, and solidarity for future Joan pushes.

VOTE:

papa dinosaur

Shiro

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I'm speechless

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I really don't want to detract from this amazing post, and it's everything I've come to expect and much more

But Meyers-Briggs has been disproven and is.... garbage according to psychologists

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did you miss my claim? What do you think about the roles together?

No, I saw your claim and thought the vote was enough to voice my displeasure.
Apparently it wasn't

Not going to lie- I've had pretty horrible experiences with hoods in Boon's game, and it makes 100% perfect sense for him to shove a role like that in there after what happened in BTXI.
That being said, I really didn't like how you handled the reveal.

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Joan. Claim the exact name of your role.

Reflexive Friendly Neighbor Neighbor.

reasons

I got what the role does.


Ok let's try with a simple question to get things started- how many votes were on you when you claimed?

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Joan. Claim the exact name of your role.

Reflexive Friendly Neighbor Neighbor.

reasons

I got what the role does.


Ok let's try with a simple question to get things started- how many votes were on you when you claimed?

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called arms dealer - it turns someone veteran and kills all or at least one random vistor of them. Idk if something like that exists on m

Oh wait fuck

I confused your slots together

[Vorkuta]

How did you confuse me and JoA

My name is not even similar to hers

So I typically have mental boxes for every single person here, and typically everyone's posts go into their boxes for sorting/analysis.

Your boxes seemed to have been too close together and the posts were intertwined and confused.
My bad

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Four

Need I say more?

I mean, uh, don't fake confirm a friendly neighbor as a rule of thumb.

triggered

Theenks for the love bb

Give me some sugar

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*sighs*
2 cents

I'm actually an introvert by the definition of the word (it takes energy for me to interact with people, not I receive energy from interacting with people).
And my test results changed depending on when/where/what I take so *shrugs*

[Vorkuta]

Can we not lynch han please?

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Yes Zulfy- Han Solo was present in the Boondom Menace.

/s

He is a real life Chewy to Krazy’s Han. (Now the argument might be made that they were equals but we know that isn’t true, Han was definitely the leader)

[Vorkuta]

you're voting a lurker

better than obv!town

also voted someone who can be inno'd

watch something go wrong D2
I'm already clenching my buttcheeks in preparation for that reveal

im not impressed

tough crowd

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Well I don't think any roles are characters from the movie Vork.

Do you think Boon and Jingle won't go overboard to shove in as many Star Wars puns and references as possible?
The guy that made "unabombah" a role in BTX?

I'm 90% sure that the

two Boonski'i Knights, the guardians
of peace and justice

are like Quigon & Obi mason vig buddies or some shit like that and at least some role has "jar jar" in it
There's no way Boon passes on an opportunity to make darth maul and palpatine a thing.

and obviously I didn't roll any of these

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You know, if Joan would have crumbed or added flavor text, I'd believe her a bit more.

But I've already explained about how I just don't buy it period.

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Vorkuta -- seems kinda passive so far? nullish

I feel like I should have a read on vork but I don’t (???)

Shit I'm slipping if I haven't obv!town'd it up by page 20

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Excuse you, the starwars related fluffing was highly necessary, relevant, and game-related

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which is right. But i know you dont have meta

You know what his VT meta is binsy

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So which one of you is padme

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prodging because IRL stuff- will catch up later

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Who are we wagoning now, and where do I sign up?

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i hate that games have to get under 24h til deadline before people will do anything these days

so do we afk for 24 hours, or do we get the mods to shorten the deadline?

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Common knowledge & universal consensus =/= controversial "hot take"

But cool

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How can CFD if I'm voting Shiro?

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.....
Chinese Fire Drill = random "hey let's completely go crazy and wagon this unrelated person"

And yes- there's always a universal consensus as to how townie I am, as no one else has spoken up

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VOTE: Shiro with me then

already voting there, this is just for emphasis

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Well Zulfy is Zulfy

Also maybe if a wagon hits L-2, something real will happen this time

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Shit I just checked my activity log
I need to fix that

Also guys vote shiro like come one we need something real please

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Krazy has too many posts to be a viable lynch on D1
I personally prefer some of the BS conf!town """"friendly neighbor neighbor IC"""" roles as I don't believe them
some people I'm just not willing to lynch because they're fun and I promise to catch them in D2/D3 if they're scum

The Zulfy wagon is a beetlejuice wagon ffs and look how that turned out

It's shiro

Guys I know that menace was worse than clone wars, but let's at least try to remember that there's 6 actual good minutes of this movie

Spoiler:

Ctrl+F darth maul from https://www.imdb.com/list/ls027631145/

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do high content scum not exist these days

I'm obviously town reading him for a little more than just his post count
But based on a quick finger on this game state's pulse, scum is lurking here.

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tfw it's page 37 and I'm using this stuff to determine my vote

Hey, I'll take it on D1
this is cool new info for me personally though

[Vorkuta]

You know that if you'll hammer
Game 3 will begin
and this game will get even more neglected

Can we do the best with what we have BEFORE our attention has to be split between... everything?

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From the Boon Wars Hub

Subject: BTE: Boon Wars Hub

Revenge of the Jingle will begin when both games hit Day 2.

pedit
cool beans

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So you want us to ride the day clock out? Ugh I’d normally hate that, but since it’s you who asked:

I'd follow you to the end of the world Vjörk!

Just because I love you so much

VOTE: Zulfy

do me proud doctor baguette

[Vorkuta]

L-1

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But I've already explained about how I just don't buy it period.

quick reminder for D2 btw

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Since I refuse to claim this time around

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*popcorn time*

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Good game choice

now if only Jingle wasn't around...

[Vorkuta]

15 minutes is already a gift

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Me hammering zulfy made me conf!town guys
like what is this vote on me even

even DrEB can be conf!town as well

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This isn't an I'll be back later to then never show up until the deadline post, this is actually an I'll actually be back later but I got match to do at this time but don't think I won't be coming back post.

Only scum can see the difference.

He's just crumbing I've learned this.

I actually am INFP! Sometimes E not I though, depends on the context.
VOTE: Something Smart[/s]

I'm shook that Bins is E not I.

I don't think 'joan claimed reflexive fn' and 'fa claimed compulsive visitor thing' is so complicated it needs an eli5

You underestimate her disengagement, also mine cuz this post helped understand it so thanks.

VOTE: Krazy

VOTE: Xtoxm
Dont believe you

I can keep my vote on xtoxm tho.

We can have a thing

.

oh my god
he was crumbing to xtoxm
VOTE: xtoxm
this is perfect

[Vorkuta]

anyone who thinks a traitor spends the entire day voting scum has mental deficiencies

anyone that thinks zulfy is a type of player who uses his votes ONLY AND ONLY on people who he intends to lynch PERIOD has... more mafia games to play

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oh man
if only

I didn't scum read the hell out of your slot
when I meant joans

and our interactions about you claiming armsdealer or whatever.....

Frozen Angel and xtoxm defending each other

please someone tell me if this sounds too far off

[Vorkuta]

TL;DR
xtoxm has nothing to heavily incriminate him in his ISO, but in the absence of new setup information I want to flip him
-zulfy weak associative that I will not back down from
-he flips and we know he wasn't BSing about his cryptic informed claim

Spoiler:

what do you like about pretending not to have read the op and making a fake push

k

i'll claim this now.
i'm informed town.
it's fairly cryptic, but its basically in the future, there is fire and ice.
we (being me and worm) think it's a reference to this setup https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fire_and_Ice possibly in relation to the episode 2 multiball game. so there it folks, maybe someone can get use out of it.

hnnnnnng
I remember his third party play in BTX and I'm certain that he can pull this off as scum

short life expectancy on a d2 ic claim
probably just give her the night and if the claim changes or whatever she can go

scummy

Historical Figures Joan of Arc Aristophanes - idk
Abstract Nonsense Something_Smart Baezu - S_S more likely to pick town
Almost Chara Chara Almost50 - chara more likely to take scum role
#Baked Nips Dr Easy Bake Emperor flippyNips - DEB more likely to take scum
dabdabdab Bins PenguinPower - bins more likely to take scum
Ali & FA's Twintastic Adventure Frozen Angel Alisae - idk
White Fire Shiro Firebringer - idk
Psycho Pachyderm Krazy Irrelephant11 - krazy more likely to take town?
Boon Named This Team RCEnigma Ausuka - rce more likely to take town
Logical Fortress Titus Davesaz - titus more likely to take scum
Communist Bloc Vorkuta Nero Cain - vork more likely to take scum?
Be my VALENTINE Xtoxm Dr Worm - X more likely to take scum
Angel and Butterman ofrhz Enigma - idk
Civilization Death Squad Creature Lil Uzi Vert - creature more likely to take town
Handsome He's Zulfy Insomnia - idk

if dealt one of each alignment
notes for myself more than anything but figured i'd share

hnnnnng
this is scum.... doing this determing who would pick a town!PR over another role

liked vorks strong of posts there.
VOTE: zulfy

I liked them too

VOTE: vork
weak iso, rce defending him looks like signalling

RCE can pocket me any time he wants to- this is pretty much common knowledge by now

anyone who thinks a traitor spends the entire day voting scum has mental deficiencies

anyone that thinks zulfy is a type of player who uses his votes ONLY AND ONLY on people who he intends to lynch PERIOD has... more mafia games to play

sit down kid i have 10 years on you

the ad hominem hurt me right here *points to doll*

[Vorkuta]

I'm going to be irrational
and ignore this

as I know I will be talked out of it if I engage
and I'm not interested in that option

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Wait you think FA and Xtoxm are scum together? Or am I not reading that right

I'm rereading to make sure that this is not "mechanically impossible"

I get that okham's razor = FA's long ass story/claim = town!spewed
I also just.... hate everything about the timing, the delivery, the aspect, the appeals, the conclusions and all that.

It's partially why I'm not going to engage (I'm sorry if you won't be pretty FA .... ) because I know there will be a perfectly mechanically acceptable and 100% valid reason for why things happened exactly the way they happened.
I just want to ignore all that, spare everyone the walls of text and argument, because I'm going with my gut in spite of everything else.

[Vorkuta]

This is one of the weirdest roles I ever had in my life.

Also I'm butthurt because I don't see full and exact modifiers in this one

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Nor a request from anyone asking for them

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Frozen Angel and xtoxm defending each other

You him via the clear just now
Him you via not including you anywhere near his suspicions- not a hard defense but subtle enough to be "distancing but not distancing"
Like he didn't share your accolades directly but I reread that a few times for me to not be happy with the interactions you "haven't" had

I claimed every single one of my modifers

I'm not happy but I'm not at liberty to discuss in-depth why.
I'm hoping others might be able to comment and spoonfeed things for me better

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In my defense ONU UW was when I had only 1 game going on

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In my follow up defense, I was travelling and pressed for time

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*sighs*
I'm doing this because my partner insists on it even though I disagree.

I've been hooded.

[Vorkuta]

My condolences, you've been pocketed.

*inhales sharply*
I hate hate hate hate hate hoods

[Vorkuta]

Oh my, what an entirely predictable turn of events

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Oh damn I can't wait until my schedule gets back to something resembling order.
I'm Sebulba (flavor), so while I'm technically a bad guy for being indirectly responsible for the amazing quote that is "Now this is podracing", I harbor no allegiance to the evil sith.

Also Sebulba was too popular to get kicked out of pod-racing, regardless of all the dirty/shady/reckless plays and cheats he's made, and I think we should stick by that spirit for my character in this game

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VOTE: vork
weak iso, rce defending him looks like signalling

Okay, Vork is town then.

*sighs*
I'm doing this because my partner insists on it even though I disagree.

I've been hooded.

My condolences, you've been pocketed.

Another scumflip incoming

[Vorkuta]

{S_S, Krazy, ofhrz}
{Creature}
{Titus, Chara}
{Xtoxm, Shiro

We apparently mechanically cleared these people here so my opinion on them doesn't matter tier: FA, Bins, Joan
DrEB tier: DrEB

S_S hooded me. This is literally the most sub-optimal/useless play scum!S_S could possibly make.
Creature feels like town!Creature his game as I've noticed that he's self-aware more often, actually catchup-hyperposts and all that, and... yeah. I think I'm getting a grasp on him being readable so *shrugs*
ofhrz doesn't actually have anything in their playstyle that I can tie as being AI- just the same game I've seen from town!ofhrz
Oh yeah and that ascetic -> disabler claim I buy and I feel like is a solid town!play

I have trouble remembering titus's posts (I'm aware of how this makes me look ), but I'm looking forward to game-solving wagonomics from her.
Chara...... feels.... scum? Idk I have no comments barring "sufficient amount of gut pings to culminate into a scumlean"
Then you guys will be all like "oh but what about chara feels scummy to you", and I'll ISO her and disagree with every other post of hers.

I don't want to back down from my "Zulfy was signalling to xtoxm" argument, but meh
Like his impulsive vote on me waaaay early on when I misinterpreted his "singleball" post just didn't come from town IMHO
I've been pushing for Shiro for most of D1, so let's make that a thing again yeah?

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@shiro- TL;DR, your ISO is among the scummiest I've read so far

Spoiler:

can someone recap the last 19 pages? Does it amtter? Has anythign significant happened? Can I rpetend they do not exist?

I dislike this LAMIST (but very busy. but still town) attempt/appeal coming from you

Actually no 8 have strong townread on creature

Vote:something_smart

Congratulations creature yourself a second vote.

*inhales*

Ok people I am making a clean slate here and will participate in the game from now on. Who is hyped?

Again with the "Look at how busy town I am" appeal

Tbh I kidna like Krazy vote on me, it is the only opne that makes sense.

Chara empty vote is blah, you broke my heart chara </3 (I kinda take it as a I agree with everything Krazy said but still)

DEB vote is bad since unlike Krazy who justifies and actually tries to find legit reasons he purely play of the omg lurk card, which dont get me wrong is a pretty valid card to play I have numerous times said that lurking is one of the strognest moves scum do to hide but the fact that he didnt comment at all toowards teh things krazy said makes me feel eh

I disagree with this reasoning and attempt to brush off the votes as "jokes" or "aww my friends please don't vote me "

Guys what are the chances that the whole mafia is traitors or at the very elast a two memeber mafia and all traitors. Noowhere in the flipped roles does it say that they dont count as part of jingle for win con.

This would be imo thematically appropriate since the bad guys were pretty much all incognito in phantom menance and would make FA almost wholy negative utility with so many neighborizers and hoods.

Reads as if someone knows more about the setup than they should

I've been pushing for Shiro for most of D1, so let's make that a thing again yeah?

My good sir may I ask what is your reasoning other than my day 1 absence?

ON TOP of your day 1 absence- the above.
The lurking scum point is just a cherry on top

I think it's quite bad and want to push it.
Kindly join me, please and thank you

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Right so this just happened...
especially after

Me hammering zulfy made me conf!town guys
like what is this vote on me even

even DrEB can be conf!town as well

anyway I'm VB and was hooded by S_S

So nothing tremendous of value will be lost via my hammer, but like...
I'd rather you guys not?

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The Zulfy ISO speaks for itself.
I also find it very funny that shiro is the one who's in the position to deliver a hammer, even though that slot has been ignored and lurking this entire game

Claiming VB was like, almost a nice touch but also kinda almost feels like too much

you know it's true
I can do multitasking pallie vendor as well, but that's not appropriate for this game

also have you been ignoring the hood or do you feel like you have a better read on SS there or...?

It's not so much as 'ignoring' the hood, just there isn't any...
there's 10 posts of content and that's it.
S_S is conf!town because hooding/pocketing me is a stupid play from scum!S_S

why does hammering zulfy make you conftown?

Because scum would have traitor searching as their top priority on D1/D2 and take care to not hammer a potential ally.
The way/circumstances under which we hammered zulfy makes us conf!town *shrugs*

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The Zulfy ISO speaks for itself.

*to incriminate xtoxm

but... why? like, if scum were informed there would be a pt cop, or inferred it somehow, then wouldn't he be setting you up to be mislynched later? I'm not saying that's the case I just don't get you 'conftowning' him off this

Yeah but... like.... really?
out of the ~10 other players here?
really? yours truly?
Ok....?
This just feels like a really sub-optimal play and much much more likely to come from town!S_S who rolled against scum!vork 3 times now, as opposed to scum!S_S who wants to... do stuff.

how is this supposed to be possible when he literally spent the entire day anti-spewing?

Scum would be informed of a traitor, and they'd be on the look out.
My actions clearly could not be described as those of someone acting in the best interest of scum.
That's it.

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I mean, main faction scum hammering a traitor for towncred is like... not that big of a deal, Boon hard bussed his traitor in anime upick just to keep the pressure off Alch so... idk this argument just seems super weak to me

-a recruitable traitor?
-I'm not boon

feel like as a neighborizor usually I would target people I townread strongly and think I can solve with so yeah, idk

Well I got S_S's seal of approval- wagon please disperse

sell me on scum shiro

zzz

@shiro- TL;DR, your ISO is among the scummiest I've read so far

Spoiler:

can someone recap the last 19 pages? Does it amtter? Has anythign significant happened? Can I rpetend they do not exist?

I dislike this LAMIST (but very busy. but still town) attempt/appeal coming from you

Actually no 8 have strong townread on creature

Vote:something_smart

Congratulations creature yourself a second vote.

*inhales*

Ok people I am making a clean slate here and will participate in the game from now on. Who is hyped?

Again with the "Look at how busy town I am" appeal

Tbh I kidna like Krazy vote on me, it is the only opne that makes sense.

Chara empty vote is blah, you broke my heart chara </3 (I kinda take it as a I agree with everything Krazy said but still)

DEB vote is bad since unlike Krazy who justifies and actually tries to find legit reasons he purely play of the omg lurk card, which dont get me wrong is a pretty valid card to play I have numerous times said that lurking is one of the strognest moves scum do to hide but the fact that he didnt comment at all toowards teh things krazy said makes me feel eh

I disagree with this reasoning and attempt to brush off the votes as "jokes" or "aww my friends please don't vote me "

Guys what are the chances that the whole mafia is traitors or at the very elast a two memeber mafia and all traitors. Noowhere in the flipped roles does it say that they dont count as part of jingle for win con.

This would be imo thematically appropriate since the bad guys were pretty much all incognito in phantom menance and would make FA almost wholy negative utility with so many neighborizers and hoods.

Reads as if someone knows more about the setup than they should

I've been pushing for Shiro for most of D1, so let's make that a thing again yeah?

My good sir may I ask what is your reasoning other than my day 1 absence?

ON TOP of your day 1 absence- the above.
The lurking scum point is just a cherry on top

I think it's quite bad and want to push it.
Kindly join me, please and thank you

1)I am always bored to read stuff I have missed. You can check yourself.

2)I will give you that one, I was bored and wanted someone to sheep, sadly FA was away

3)I never claimed to be busy, I only said I will ignore day1 Dunno how you got that.

4)That is flat out misrepresantation, When did I brush any vote as jokes? I called Krazy vote legit, Chara vote probably a sheep of I agree and DEB as the worst of the three. You can disagree with the reasoning but where exactly did you get the brush as jokes? Because of my sarcaastic remark towards chara?

5)Or someone that makes a lot of hypothetical scenario but sure ok.

6)Nothign to really say to that.

This is a shit rebuttal that argues against the "word" of my accusation and not the "spirit"
But she'll scumclaim by hammering me so there's that

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Boy does this sound like distancing in case we flip you scum.

So scum!vork
-hammers own traitor
-OUTS a PT even though there was absolutely no reason to
-gets fellow scum!buddy S_S to vouch for said PT

such amazing preflip associations and excellent play
or
or

scum!shiro trying to come up with a plausible reason to hammer

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And I answered on all your point in spirit not on wording like whaaat? You completly misrepreseented stuff. Calling what I said a joke is not picking on words it is flat out incorrect to anyone that read my post.

1)I am always bored to read stuff I have missed. You can check yourself.

Self-meta appeal can come from scum. Not a "town defense"

2)I will give you that one, I was bored and wanted someone to sheep, sadly FA was away

weeee

3)I never claimed to be busy, I only said I will ignore day1 Dunno how you got that.

You know perfectly well what the argument and point that I was making here, but have decided to focus on the word "busy" and defend yourself via "VORK IS MISREPPING MEEEE"

but where exactly did you get the brush as jokes? Because of my sarcaastic remark towards chara?

*sighs* For starters.
You know perfectly well that I was making the case that you are appearing to use your pull/prior friendship/relationship/memes with said people to try and diffuse the wagon on you.
but this is a misrep so itsk and what you're doing isn't scummy at all

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Vork what do you think of how DEB has treated your wagon? Why do you both feel really weird toward each other with this big out of game thing and you creating a weird category for him just like you did for someone in EICN?

Uhhh I have no desire to sort there until absolutely necessary or much later.
I actually think I'm treating him normally just with an extra dash of inside-jokes splashed on top, but ok?
Most people that I either don't want to sort OR there's no point in sorting them because nothing that I say/do/claim will matter get their own category in my tier list. I don't know what you're trying to get at over here.

And he can approach my wagon however he wants to. His skepticism is warranted and if he doesn't want to believe me, that's his prerogative to do so.
I'd rather we get along and lynch people who I think have scum equity but *shrugs*

[Vorkuta]

Actually, initially my plan was to do a gambit where I claimed traitor and that I knew my hoodmate was mafia and tried to get them to admit being scum

FYI
Una pulled this shit on me in BTXI and this ended badly for both of us.

[Vorkuta]

I blinked