One Night Ultimate Ultimate Werewolf - Game Over

[Ircher]

oh this game started.
I'll catch up later.

[Ircher]

I really don't know if there's any value to reading every page of this game as it grows.

I doubt anybody has played a game of ONUW of this size. I certainly haven't. In a regular game attention to detail and following everybody's claims is really important, but this is just all sorts of chaotic.

Also I'm not a mathmatician but I suspect there's a mathematical way to guarantee town win. Like even if scum lump their votes together somehow without outing themselves, scum factions only know themselves not the other factions. They have very limited overall control over who and how many get killed.

Though for what it's worth I'm only familiar with the original roles and the first expansion I think. The newer roles may change all of this?

I don't think the setup can be broken for town due to the fact we have only 1 vote each but need to lynch two scum. It'll be hard enough one scum, but then finding another is harder. And getting people to split votes on two different targets is really hard to pull off. Just my perspective on the issue.

Not claiming is basically avoiding the game

That sounds great! I refuse to claim atm, but I've already strongly hinted at it anyway.

Without claims I'm pretty sure it'd be completely random who wins, whereas if people actually participate it becomes a game of truth and lies and gambits

The game's bastard and doesn't guarantee our alignments. Who wins is already pretty random for most of uss, massclaim or no massclaim.

Oh no eyes- are you actually reading the entire thread?
A for effort but please just claim already

We weren't supposed to do that?

[Ircher]

Dang I didn't copy everything I meant to....

[Ircher]

I should've just spammed the thread.

[Ircher]

Well one of the more important excluded things is I believe we should apply Lynch All Liars to this game, so..... Jjh and RCEnigma need to be lynched.

[Ircher]

Hey no ducky give me some love too I'm actually doing stuff

Also hi ircher- I'm putting what I think your claim is in my big wall posts and I don't care what you think

my hint got cut out of my quote wall

[Ircher]

jjh esp. can eat rope.

[Ircher]

That's what wolf!Jjh wants you to think.

[Ircher]

jjh esp. can eat rope.

[Ircher]

Now you can piece together my role vork.
Pedit: Yes. Lynch all liars.

[Ircher]

I'm more interested in lynching jjh than RCE tbh. But in general, lynch all liars sounds like a good policy for this game.

[Ircher]

I'm more interested in lynching jjh than RCE tbh. But in general, lynch all liars sounds like a good policy for this game.


I'm more interested in lynching jjh than RCE tbh. But in general, lynch all liars sounds like a good policy for this game.

I just want to remind people that this is multiple plurality lynching

that takes place in the next stage (after 2 weeks)

and 'anonymously'

Also (I'm assuming your wincon is town so wtv)- you don't win by voting ircher.
You win by voting 1 of each scum and not losing.

Someone explain how lynching works exactly btw. We each have one vote right? How many lynches are there? Two?

[Ircher]

I'm more interested in lynching jjh than RCE tbh. But in general, lynch all liars sounds like a good policy for this game.

What is your plan for when it is determined that more than 2 people have lied

I don't have one.....

[Ircher]

This....this is just too many posts in so little time.

I've definitely seen worse. I think I've seen games from Varsoon and mastina that were large themes get 100 pages in less than 1 IRL day.

Pedit: THat seems rather impossible to win as town. How exactly is town supposed to coordinate votes on two targets when they only have 1 vote each?

[Ircher]

Vorkuta's 9999!% Guaranteed to be Correct TL;DR claim list, Volume #16,
can I post images and youtube links in here edition?

01

Ausuka

-

Blob

(unlynchable so don't bother)
02

McMenno

-

Ricochet Rhino

(Or vengeful for all intents and purposes)
04

NotMySpamAccount

-

Marksman

05

Jingle

-

Curator

(cursed PP with shamefulness)
07

Flavor Leaf

- A little birdie told him that his card was changed
11

ofrhz

-

Empath

12

rosterfoster

-

Apprentice seer

who picked into copycat (lel)
14

U SUX

-

Annoying Lad

(annoyed redemption) &

Mark of LOVER

17

Chemist1422

-

Voodoo Lou

(swapped into smth)
25

Klick

:

Defender-er

27

the worst

:

Villager

28

NerfedBuJ

:

Lover

(gave U SUCK and PINK BALL a lover TOKEN)
29

Shad

: "mechanical certainty that Mulch had a town card" (right)
31

tris

:

Groob

(formerly lied about detector, Iconeum is Zerb)
33

Gorkington

:

village idiot

(one more time please)
35

RCEnigma

:

Tanner's Apprentice

41

Krazy

- now

Assassin

(FORMERLY RASCAL swapped with JJH)
42

xyzzy

-

Priest

(aristophanes)
45

Dr Easy Bake

-

Mortician

46

NotAJumbleOfNumbers

-

Mason

(w/ irrelephant)
48

Vorkuta

- Hero Seal/Turtle/Penguin appendage
50

Mulch

-

Innocent Bystander

51

Raven1207

-

Rascal

54

jjh927

-

Rascal

(the OG assassin but swapped with Krazy)
57

Chara

-

Villager

60

Formerfish

-

Switcheroo

61

Eyes without a face

-

Switcheroo

64

Ircher

- told me his ISO would have crumbs but lied to me
65

chennisden

-

Cow

: (Results on bin and ircher)
68

Creature

- doesn't want to claim
69

Vaxkiller

- wants to say that creature is town = he can look at neighbor card?
72

Firebringer

-...village rocket scientist...
73

pytdarque

-

Villager

75

Bellaphant

-

The Thing

76

Skellen

-

Witch

(swapped center w/ someone else)
79

Cinnamon

-

Trouble maker

80

Irrelephant

-

Mason

w/ Jumble

New comments:

-#525 is a really important read people please enjoy

-I oopsied the mortician Vax mortician claim because I don't remember which roles allow you to peak at your neighbors
Mortician was #45 = DrEB so DrEB wins only if #44= Flippynips or #46=Jumble get lynched

-FormerFish claimed switcheroo
-Eyesw/oface also claimed that.
#60 and #61... hmmm what roles swap neighbors....
Either way this is great
Welp #619 explains this shit, and now we have absolutely no way of knowing what Eyesw/oface has

-Marks out-prioritize your card
The marks of clarity are to tell people that you don't have marks of lover/fear/traitor/assassin/wtv
The mark of vamp means you are on the vamp team (win-con) REGARDLESS of what your role card is.

-Remember when I said stuff about Groob and Zerb 3rd parties? Here's an addition for you!
Town also has a role called the "leader" that only wins if ALL GROOBS AND ZERBS survive.
And if all aliens vote for the leader well then all aliens win!

-Isn't ONUUW so fun?!

Spoiler:

03 Invisibility
06 Pink Ball
08 Clemency
09 Iconeum
10 BrightEyedFish
13 Redemption
15 Dr Worm
16 TemporalLich
18 Aristophanes
19 ScreamingNoodle
20 daughtersmom
21 0verki11
22 Languste
23 Silver Cyndaquil
24 themilkcartonkid
26 mcqueen
30 Gamma Emerald
32 ReubenWasFine
34 ziping3
36 Baezu
37 PrivateI
38 Tatsuya Kaname
39 Kaniffee
40 Elsa Jay
43 Cephrir
44 Emperor flippyNips
47 racefan12
49 PvtUrist
52 Pretty Bird
53 BlackStar5931
55 Turin Turambar
56 EvilDeanius
58 cvb2009
59 BearCavalry
62 ZestOfLife
63 Powerbrand
66 Bins
67 Raya36
70 Vijarada
71 Aronis
74 Voted
77 Shadoweh
78 Maruchan
81 PenguinPower

my iso has crumbs. Just not as blatant ones since like 85% of my wall got cut off by accident. I left new ones since then to make up.

[Ircher]

On the flip side, because it's such a big game, if a few sane town people can reach a consensus to be sheeped, statistics can do the coordination regardless of alignment and we just say odd play numbers vote one guy and even votes the other. That way also minimalises the amount of counterplay scum can do

How many town are in the game? What is the biggest scum faction size?

[Ircher]

jjh esp. can eat rope.

[Ircher]

That's not a useful conversation to have so can it

@Jjh my last post was for vorkuta, not you.

[Ircher]

Hot take:
Jingle, jjh, and Vorkata are scum trying to manipulate the town so they win.

[Ircher]

And please stop saying I said I lied. That's blatantly false and one can read my ISO and tell that's the case. Don't misrepresent me.

[Ircher]

That's irrelevant.

[Ircher]

Yes I'm the sponge, I got an empath action too, I targeted Ircher with it. He can probs confirm.

You did???

[Ircher]

One more clue for Vork: my role has a 't' in it and is 10 characters long.

[Ircher]

Ftr, I consider whitespace to be a character.

[Ircher]

Why the fuck is this 40 pages anyways, didn't this game start YESTERDAY?

Why are you so surprised. There's 81 players and games like Gistou and Civilization got like 100 pages in <24 hours.

[Ircher]

Remind me, what were the other marks? There are clarity, assassin, love, what else?

[Ircher]

the worst, you better be town and not scheming scum.

[Ircher]

Vorkuta, I think you need to slow down some. You account for 20-25% of the thread alone.

Oddly enough, I'm in the top 10 posters which is a bit surprising (to me at least).

[Ircher]

Everyone here needs to go watch a one night ultimate game and dont post until you do.

But the best way to learn something is by doing it; i.e.: by playing this game, not by watching other games.

[Ircher]

nah, I think you have a >rand chance of town rn, but you apparently don't really know in this kind of game.

[Ircher]

Everyone here needs to go watch a one night ultimate game and dont post until you do.

But the best way to learn something is by doing it; i.e.: by playing this game, not by watching other games.

To be fair. I'm not learning anything

Then the this game has poor instructors, or you aren't paying attention.

[Ircher]

Vorkuta, I think you need to slow down some. You account for 20-25% of the thread alone.

Ok who wants to take over?
Bbetter me than like... creature IMHO
Also saudade hit a thousand posts in my large normal with him that just finished

Creature would make the thread less tense, I'm sure. It's not necessarily a bad thing you are serious about this game, but it does create a somewhat tense environment.

[Ircher]

Yay Vorky!!!!

Vork for town mvp!!!

He could always be scum mvp; you never know! (Not even he knows.....)

[Ircher]

Vorkuta, I think you need to slow down some. You account for 20-25% of the thread alone.

Oddly enough, I'm in the top 10 posters which is a bit surprising (to me at least).

Whocares?

It's a game.

[Ircher]

Not everyone is claiming. A good number are.

[Ircher]

should i claim? \o/

You should leave blatant breadcrumbs but don't directly claim.

[Ircher]

As a bonus, you still end up on the list.

[Ircher]

We might not be told if someone swapped our card right?

We probably would not be.

[Ircher]

let's do evens and odds voting.

[Ircher]

can we claim actions yet?

[Ircher]

I should stop trolling this game.

[Ircher]

Sounds neat! Too bad I don't want to commit the time to that.

[Ircher]

Or maybe it's lots of fun.

[Ircher]

So.... I am the Pickpocket, and I was able to act twice due to a bonus ripple effect.

I targeted the worst first. Then I targeted Creature.

I'll claim results later.

[Ircher]

pagetop

[Ircher]

People should sign up for large normals. They are lots of fun.

[Ircher]

That's a good thing though. Lots of people to meet in that case.

[Ircher]

You should sign up for nk15’s large, Ircher!

I'm semi-retired and don't want to invest the time though.

I only joined this one because I figured it wouldn't require a lot of effort (which is 100% accurate).

[Ircher]

I might play a micro sized game though. Or maybe a mini normal.

[Ircher]

Sorry Vork. I meant on my end.

[Ircher]

You have put in a lot of effort, so the statement isn't true for you.

[Ircher]

Jingle!

[Ircher]

Oh and since this game isn't really mafia, I guess I shouldn't add it to my wiki page....

[Ircher]

I would play a Your Idea game.

[Ircher]

Someone go mod it!

[Ircher]

micro queue

>"advertising" this in a game w/ 81 people
>"MICRO"
like
come on

[Ircher]

Consider triangle ABC with incenter I. Let its circumcircle and A-excircle intersect at X and Y. Let XY and BC intersect at Z. If the points of tangency from Z to the A-excircle are M and N, prove that I,M,N are collinear.

well there's 81 of you here; so to the few of you who do competition math pls try the problem; very high quality

Give us a drawing at least.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Accelerate Day
2 weeks is honestly too long if there's no voting til day end.

[Ircher]

There are so so so many things wrong with One Night Ultimate Werewolf from a design standpoint.....

[Ircher]

Even as a bastard setup, it's still poorly designed.

[Ircher]

The next 81 player game needs to be a fun setup like Grand Idea. Something that is still mafia, and while bastard, still reasonably playable. (Mods can just reroll broken roles; aside from that, people at least would know what win condition to shoot for.)

[Ircher]

Even if he did, he apparently can't read it.

[Ircher]

Vorkuta, why do you lack a signature?

[Ircher]

UCP --> Board Preferences --> Posting Defaults --> Attach Signature By Default

[Ircher]

We could always lie and trick Vork.

[Ircher]

PM the mods the question. They won't notice in-thread. (And pm all 3 accounts.)

[Ircher]

lets lynch lang

[Ircher]

do we really need a week and a half for that?

[Ircher]

Ultra Annaflare says we can vote to end the day early. I'm not sure if they meant publicly or privately. if

[Ircher]

VOTE: End Day Early

[Ircher]

That's likely not going to happen considering at least one person seemed to site flake, and it does not look like they are getting replaced.

[Ircher]

HURT WITH A BLADE: Pink Ball
Why are you hurting Jingle?

[Ircher]

Who wants to play hangman?

[Ircher]

hey guys sorry for me absence.

had a pretty intense weekend, certain chemical indulgences may have been involved

I might actually read the game soon!

Just ISO Vorkuta. You won't miss anything important if you do that.

[Ircher]

prod dodge.

[Ircher]

IMPORTANT NEWS hey guys the mod said we need to

PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

PSA: PLEASE PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

AGAIN PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

[Ircher]

we don't need unanimous consent, just a majority.

[Ircher]

IMPORTANT NEWS hey guys the mod said we need to

PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

PSA: PLEASE PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

AGAIN PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

(To Annadog40, vonflare, and Ultra Annaflare).

[Ircher]

[Ircher]

See Vork's post.

If you are odd numbered, vote tris.
If you are even numbered, vote McMenno.

[Ircher]

Edit by way of pagetop

Vorkuta's 0% Guaranteed to be Correct TL;DR claim list, Volume #34,
My project is due Tuesday yet here I am
All the stuff except for the plan gets spoilered now edition

PLAN so far

Plan:

If town, vote one of:

tris.

ODD NUMBERED PLAYERS:

Menno.

EVEN NUMBERED PLAYERS:

Menno on Vizzy.
Vizzy on P Birb.

BG/Defender/PPifBGCurse on RCE or Baezu

If Tanner/Synthetic/Assassin/Mortician, your vote doesn't matter, suck it up.

If Wolf, vote one of Tris/S Noodle, Menno lynch gives potential for wolf-loss so you want the other two to go through.
If Villain, vote one of Menno/Tris, S Noodle is villain.
If Vampire, vote like town. You're safe if the plan works.
If Alien, vote Menno or S Noodle, tris loses you the game.
If Zerb, vote tris, and you win.
If Blob, vote like town and you win.
If Traitor, vote like town and you win.
If Family Man, vote like town and you win.

Roles and Claims and Stuffs

Spoiler:

01

Ausuka

-

Sponge

(Targetted ircher w/ awesome empath) #821
02

McMenno

-

Ricochet Rhino

(Or vengeful for all intents and purposes)
03

Invisibility

-

Hunter

(former robber who stole XXX's card)
04

NotMySpamAccount

-

Marksman

05

Jingle

-

Curator

(cursed PP with shamefulness... allegedly... PP is not responding well to it)
06

Pink Ball

-

Villager

Also lover w/ USUX,
07

Flavor Leaf

-

Gremlin

(swapped DrEB & Flippy)

Former

vampire

, swapped to a

villain

according to maruchan, and 0verkill's role according to Formerfish
09

Iconeum

- outed as

Alien Zerb

by tris
10

BrightEyedFish

-

Villager

& AMAZING mark of clarity claim. bravo, 10/10, 100% believable and helpful
11

ofrhz

-

Empath

12

rosterfoster

-

Apprentice seer

who picked into copycat (lel)
14

U SUX

-

Annoying Lad

(annoyed redemption) &

LOVER

15

Dr Worm

-

Cursed

(Village if no one votes him, But

wolf

if a wolf votes him) BUT (

Switcheroo

'd by Eyesw/noface)
16

TemporalLich

-

Prince

(he thinks he can't die lel)
17

Chemist1422

-

Voodoo Lou

(swapped into smth- Voodoo Lou is now a center card)
18

Aristophanes

-

SHIELD TOKENED

(only way for the guy to play is to PoE to figure out what roll his should be)
19

ScreamingNoodle

-

Alien team

represent!
22

Languste

-

Paranormal Investig

.

(CVB = seer, Silver Caydquil = family man)
23

Silver Cyndaquil

=

Third-Party: Familyman

, according to the PI clear ^
24

themilkcartonkid

-

Wolf Minion

(but not anymore )

Villain team

represent!!
25

Klick

:

Defender-er

27

the worst

:

Villager

& original

Hunter

before Invizzy steal
28

NerfedBuJ

:

CUPID

(gave U SUX and PINK BALL a lover TOKEN)
29

Shad

: former Doppleganger, now

Innocent Bystander

after targetting Mulch
31

tris

:

Alien Groob

(formerly lied about detector, Iconeum is Zerb)
32

ReubenWasFine

:

Villain team

according to Maru,

Villager

hardclaim
33

Gorkington

:

village idiot

(probably didn't activate)
34

ziping3

:

Rascal

- According to Raven1207
35

RCEnigma

:

Third Party: Tanner's Apprentice

36

Baezu

:

Alien Zerb

but former

Cow

37

PrivateI

:

Drunk

, but currently

unknown center card

38

Tatsuya Kaname

:

Diseased

(ew)
39

Kaniffee

:

Werewolf Nostradamus

(confirmed Elsa's Sentinel, saw a minion)
40

Elsa Jay

:

Sentinel

(put the shield token on Aristophanes)
41

Krazy

- now

Third Party: Assassin

(Formerly

Rascal

swapped with JJH)

Alien helper

represent!!
42

xyzzy

-

Priest

(aristophanes-> This means that if a "vampire" or "assassin" gave him a mark, it's overwritten)
43

Cephrir

-

Instigator

: he turned someone into a traitor (spookyyyy)
44

Emperor flippyNips

-

Innocent Bystander

Third party: Mortician

, according to FL Gremlin Swap
45

Dr Easy Bake

-

Third party: Mortician

,

Innocent Bystander

according to FL Gremlin Swap
46

NotAJumbleOfNumbers

-

Mason

(w/ irrelephant)
47

racefan12

-

vampire

according to invizzy swap
48

Vorkuta

-

Seal/Turtle/Penguin appendage

I should update this huh
50

Mulch

-

Innocent Bystander

51

Raven1207

-

Rascal

(allegedly the OG

robber

who swapped, also claims

mark of Disease

)
52

Pretty Bird

-

Mystic Wolf

Mystic

- Vax is Exposer
54

jjh927

-

Rascal

(the OG

assassin

but swapped with Krazy)
56

EvilDeanius

-

Insomniac

and woke up as insomniac
57

Chara

-

Villager

58

cvb2009

-

Seer

, Knows left card was a copycat
60

Formerfish

-

Switcheroo

61

Eyes without a face

-

Switcheroo

-> Dr worm's

Cursed

or

Cursed

(glass half full or half empty?)
63

Powerbrand

-

Alien team

represent!
64

Ircher

-

Pickpocket

(finally)

(targetted the_worst & Creature)
65

chennisden

-

Cow

: (Results on bin and ircher= based on claims, assuming not alien results)
66

Bins

-

Bodyguard

68

Creature

- doesn't want to claim but is pretty much going to be outed by Vaxkiller
69

Vaxkiller

-

Exposer

& wants to say that creature is town?
70

Vijarada

-

Beholder

(results on the seers)
72

Firebringer

-...wants to play DnD instead...
73

pytdarque

-

Villager

75

Bellaphant

-

The Thing

,

Squire

According to Reubenwasfire
76

Skellen

-

Witch

(swapped Villain Henchman #7 w/ Dr. Worm)
77

Shadoweh

-

Aura Seer

w/

Mark of the Traitor

oh booooy
78

Maruchan

-

Villain Rapscallion

79

Cinnamon

-

Trouble maker

80

Irrelephant

-

Mason

w/ Jumble
81

PenguinPower

-

Alien Bodysnatcher

but

Unknown artifact

> role card. Snatched #42 &

zoo animal excrement stain

Here are the Wincons!

Spoiler:

•Villager Team: 1 Alien (tris) + 1 Vamp OR Villain (via invizzy) =

Check

•Werewolf Team - All Werewolves must survive + 1 1 Alien (tris) + 1 Vamp OR Villain (via invizzy) =

Check

•Zerb - The player survives and at least one Groob dies. =

Check

•Blob Team - All players in the Blob survive =

Check

•Traitor Team: 1 person of his home team (Villager) dies =

Check

•Family Man - His family is fine =

Check

•Vampire Team - All Vampires must survive =

Check

(invizzy no longer vamp based on center card swaps)

•Alien Team - All Aliens must survive =

FAIL

•Villain Team - All Villains must survive =

FAIL

•Synthetic Team - A Synthetic Alien dies =

FAIL

•Groob - The player survives and at least one Zerb dies. =

FAIL

•Tanner Team - A Tanner dies =

FAIL

•Assassin Team - A player with a Mark of the Assassin dies (I'm so sorry Krazy aka alien helper) =

FAIL

•Apprentice Assassin Team - An Assassin dies. =

FAIL

•Mortician Team - At least one neighbor of the Mortician dies =

FAIL

(DrEB, #45)
•Leader - All Groobs and all Zerbs must survive. =

FAIL

-#525 is a really important read people please enjoy

-Here are the MARKS that you have. You can ONLY HAVE 1.

Spoiler:

-Clarity = DEFAULT- EVERYONE HAS THIS SO STOP CLAIMING IT ALREADY
-Assassin = Targetted by Assassin (Functionally = Lynchee)
-Love = Lover
-Disease = Anyone who votes you loses
-Traitor = Your wincon is 1 of your team dies
-Vampire = Your wincon is now Vampire (and udgaf about your roll card anymore)
-Fear = You've been rollblocked/stopped and you don't do your night action
-Bat = You are not a vampire (wtf game mechanics)

-By popular demand, here is a list of roles that CAN SWAP CARDS in some way/shape/form
(in Night action order because procrastinating is fun)

Spoiler:

Temptress,
Alpha Wolf,
Robber,
Witch,
RoleRetriever,
VooDooLoo (center card face up btw),
Troublemaker,
Village idiot (99% guaranteed to not be active)
Gremlin,
Rascal,
Switcheroo,
Drunk (erm...),

Kindly say stuff

Spoiler:

08 Clemency
13 Redemption
20 daughtersmom
21 0verki11
26 mcqueen
30 Gamma Emerald
49 PvtUrist
53 BlackStar5931
55 Turin Turambar
59 BearCavalry
62 ZestOfLife
67 Raya36
71 Aronis
74 Voted

IMPORTANT NEWS hey guys the mod said we need to

PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

PSA: PLEASE PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

AGAIN PM OUR VOTES TO END DAY EARLY

[Ircher]

i thought we only get 2 lynches

You can get 3 as long as there is a tie for 2nd but not 1st

There is no way we can or should be banking on a tie to win. There are too many unknowns esp. in a game this size.

[Ircher]

Tris, the second highest voted player, is dead. She was. .

Groob

an Alien on Groob team, her goal was to kill the Zerb player and survive.

The highest voted player was McMenno. He was a ..

Ricochet Rhino

, a town who, if voted up, whoever he is voting for also dies, he voted for Iconium who was. . .

Zerb

an Alien on Zerb team, their goal was to kill the Groob player and survive.

Two aliens and one town died. Winners/losers and role reveals incoming.

Really McMenno, really? We had a plan and you deviated from it....

[Ircher]

Well it's a good thing this game isn't going on my wiki.

[Ircher]

Well it's a good thing this game isn't going on my wiki.

how dare you this is the greatest and most important game ever run on this site

It's not mafia and even if it were, it's so bastard that no one has a reasonable shot at winning.

[Ircher]

Thanks for modding anyway Ultra Annaflare.