EVERYTHING IS COMPLETELY NORMAL (THE [GAME) OVER]

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First!

Let's make some bets on what there will be in the game.

I think every scum will be a Ninja.

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The only ninja was them ^^^

Town

Every townie is a disloyal vig and every scum is bulletproof.

Scum?

I am Town Backup Miller.

Town?

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I am Town Backup Miller.

Does that mean you become Miller after a Miller dies?

- DJ Mouse

VOTE: DJ

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20 pages?

Are you kidding me?

>.<

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You guys owe me a catchup for flooding the thread

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I had to rush to read everything that was posted, only to realise that I wasn't actually processing anything and I don't have any good reads.

Quick question though: Why did people talk about Nero as if he true claimed SK?

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you owe me a catchup for not keeping current with the thread.

Am I expected to read 30 pages every day?

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You guys owe me a catchup for flooding the thread

Just vote Almost50 and you’ll be good.

What did he do?

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Alch there are 17 other players in the game and if that's all you have to offer I can't be convinced

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Hmm Almost50 seems quite jokey this game. He's given me that impression of being a joking person all around, but he was a lot more jokey in his scumgame than his towngame.

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WHY do you claim it?

the role that discourages scum from shooting you?

Seems self-explanatory.

VOTE: Almost50

@Alch how is this scum

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Alch have you played with A50 before?

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RedFlavor may be town

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RCE, this game is technically normal. That means it contains at least one VT.

I wouldn't be surprised if it contained exactly one VT.

Actually, maybe we ought to massclaim VT or not-VT. If only one person claims VT, they're conftown

SS I know you're mechanically inclined

I'd expect you to think a bit more before posting your strategy thoughts

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Not agreeing or disagreeing, but you seem to have put in less thought than you would

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In other news Chara seems quite underwhelming compared to the last time I played with them

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SS claimed VT in this role madness game so.

Guess I know who I’m role blocking!!!

You're gonna roleblock a claimed VT?

Baezu looked like she was obviously joking

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In other news Chara seems quite underwhelming compared to the last time I played with them

Could you expand?

I'm on the early stages of my thorough reread but Chara had given less content than when I last played with them.

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To explain further: Chara is my regular hydra p, and I have never directly lied to them about my alignment when we play separately. I just let them assume I'm town and let it roll.

So, answering the question as it is in 127 could be treated as trust tell. However, I think I'm safe telling everyone (including Chara) that I am TOWN here.

Regardless of your intention, this can be interpreted as veering dangerously close to a trust tell.

As a concerned citizen, I recommend that you drop it, and don't bring it up in future games either.

This post keeps bugging me.

It feels like SS knows that A50 is telling the truth about being town.
And SS putting "Citizen" felt awkward.
VOTE: Something_Smart

I sided with SS's intentions here but I did see what you were saying in this post it does resonate with me.

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Baezu looked like she was obviously joking

Roleblocking a VT claim is an exceedingly unusual thing to joke about. In my experience with Baezu I wouldn't have expected her to say something like that as a joke, completely out of the blue.

So you took it as serious?

Based on the earlyness it seemed obviously fake.

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VOTE: dj

Towny entrance

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You're gonna roleblock a claimed VT?

I can only roleblock vanillas lmao

SS you're right LOL

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So yeah Baezu is town

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Meant to post this, idk why it's not posting:

Eh

Joke scum claims are more likely to come from scum than town put the progression of Nero up to that posts have thoughts that line up with mine when I play town.

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I can see Ausuka town

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Alchemist is more likely to be town than Almost50

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Am I right or am I wrong to say that Nero's aggressiveness is town?

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Alch do you plan to do anything other than call for votes on A50?

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Yes.

Let's settle it then!

Yo Baezu! Was your simple roleblocker claim a serious claim?

yes, it was a serious claim. I am in fact a simple roleblocker.

I’m not sure how to use this role but that is indeed my role

Play it like you would play a tracker, trying to block scum. The only thing you can do is to block the scum's Night kill.

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Joke scum claims are more likely to come from scum than town put the progression of Nero up to that posts have thoughts that line up with mine

when I play town

.

Now THAT is what I'd call an awkward phrasing! Why didn't you stop at "have thoughts that line up with mine"? The bolded almost makes it sound as you're saying "I am not town in this game"!!!

Woah, I didn’t notice this...good catch!

STK, care to explain your choice of words?

When I play town as in whenever I play town, including this game.

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I actually realise the awkward phrasing when I typed that, but I realised it was my natural phrasing as town anyway so I was like whatever.

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Gonna go to sleep now, please don't flood the thread while I'm gone

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Slaxx last post on the site was 1.5 months ago

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Wait, was I supposed to take Vork's claim seriously?

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Can someone explain why there was a Cheeky wagon? I don't see it.

I can support a Vorkuta wagon. I'm annoyed at their constant mason claims and they are being much less useful than the last time I played with them, but that was when he was newer and I believe he has changed.

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mastina just curious does the lack of spacing in your reads list mean your reads are not strong enough to segregate into tiers at all or didn't bother tiering them?

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Btw here's my readslist for reference point.


RedFlavor
pisskop
Something_Smart
Lil Uzi Vert
RCEnigma
u r a person 2
Alchemist21
Chara
Nero Cain
Flavor Leaf
Almost50

Vorkuta
Ausuka
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis
CheekyTeeky

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Baezu
DJ

...I uh. Don't have enough scumreads.
(I have way way too many people town.)

Wait mastina, if this was before page 6, then LUV hasn't posted at all. How was he so high?

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V/LA 14-18 June

Will still post but less

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{Alch, Nero} Townbin
A50 town (sheeping Chara)
Baezu town?
RedFlavor town?

Strongest scumreads Chara/SS, but all really weak. Vork isn't above average scum in retrospect.

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{Alch, Nero} Townbin
A50 town (sheeping Chara)
Baezu town?
RedFlavor town?

Strongest scumreads Chara/SS, but all really weak. Vork isn't above average scum in retrospect.

You're sheeping Chara on me but you think they're scum?? Do you usually trust your scum reads reads?

Yes, I meant what I said. Chara is a scumlean but I"m not confident in that read and given that I know Chara can read you I am still sheeping that read.

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Because they're still likely to be town anyway, and Chara can read A50

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I'm half tempted to townread DJ for defending me, but I should probably make sure that this isn't TMI

I don't see Cheeky as scum here

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URAP I might support, he felt like he was under the radar

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Pisskop town? But possible blind spot

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Spoiler: Partial CheekyTeeky ISO

I am Town Backup Miller.

Does that mean you become Miller after a Miller dies?

- DJ Mouse

I think this is important for later.

DJ transition off Ausuka to URAP is weird given at the time most people were townreading Ausuka.

I like most of his activity though seems all over the place in a non-scummy way.

Nero/DJ/Red could be thing if I'm wrong on Nero town.

Townbin for now.

I scumread FL so he can be town.

LUV scum coasting. Hated his reaction to Ausuka push.

Mastina scum if I don't get into a neighbourhood.

Nero town - still worried about pisskop but I think he'd keep piggybacking on Nero's tunnel as scum so nullish town.

Red is kinda meh. If we remove the miller claim then his pushes seem opportunistic, I don't follow read progressions there at all.

Saske have we played together before?

Skygazer is the bestest mod.

S_S, Urap, Vorkuta scum.

{Ausuka, Nero, Alchemist, Saske}
{DJ, Baezu, RCE, A50, FL}
{Pisskop, Red, Chara, Mastina}
{S_S, Urap}
{Vorkuta, LUV, Singletonking}

This kind of catchup reads town to me unless Cheeky is known to have done this as scum

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Lol what is LUV doing

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Can someone explain why there was a Cheeky wagon? I don't see it.

I can support a Vorkuta wagon. I'm annoyed at their constant mason claims and they are being much less useful than the last time I played with them, but that was when he was newer and I believe he has changed.

That’s a fancy way of saying you’d like to policy lynch Vorkuta

mastina just curious does the lack of spacing in your reads list mean your reads are not strong enough to segregate into tiers at all or didn't bother tiering them?

I don’t buy that you genuinely don’t understand how her reads list work based on your entrance.

Oh I want to address this

I know how mastina's reads work, but I don't see her putting her reads all in one tier.

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DJ is townreading me to an unreasonable degree and I think that's scum

DJ feels like a powerwolf in general

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20 pages?

Are you kidding me?
>.<

Okay now the null is actually nullscum!

mastina I'm going to BoP for this

You should know that this isn't scummy of me

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DJ is townreading me to an unreasonable degree and I think that's scum

DJ feels like a powerwolf in general

Or I've never been wrong about you before and don't plan to start now

-DJK

Knowing your identity would be useful

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Off the top of my head I can't remember anyone being familiar with my games, much less having an accurate read on me

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No. The game(s) nowadays have greatly shifted from "scum hunting" to "meta hunting" (which is basically NOT how the game is intended to be, but I understand that when you play regularly with the same people you can't help it).

So, for me I see things that some players do/tend to do as one specific alignment and not the other and I meta read them based on those. If I out the reason why I TR Chara here I can no longer use that same metric in future games because I'd make them aware of what makes me TR them. Chara isn't an easy read by any means (ask anyone who played with both scum and town Chara), so I'm happy to have found a thing or two to tell the difference.

OK then

VOTE: Chara

That actually is kinda a town A50 response even if it still isn't firmly outside his scum range

His read on Chara is probably totally random though. If it's not a tell he can discuss in public, it's probably bullshit.

I think if one of the two is going for a pocket it's Chara though.

Anyway a lot of people have said they have reads on Chara with zero explanation so maybe we can actually learn some ways to read Chara with a wagon.

-DJK

what

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hey guys, i'm back! and thanks for the concern, i'm doing fine.

going to try and catch up now. disappeared for longer than i meant.
so DJ, if i'm reading that post singleton quoted right, you want to wagon me because you think i'm garnering undeserved townreads? are you concerned about the players giving out those townreads at all?

Yeah that's kinda the point lol

Not just townreads, I feel like almost every read of you is underexplained going either way. I want people to say what they think is readable as ai for you

You can talk me into a better scumread if you want while I see if anyone explains their read of you lol

-djk

What does any of that have to do with your scumread on Chara?

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There's one literally 2 posts up

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Guys who do I vote?

Almost50

Alch do you plan to do anything else this Day?
Vork too, is this the level you are planning to play today?

I think this may be a bit hypocritical but I will be doing better when I return from V/LA

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VC here

Did you come here just to post this?

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Meh... I'm not getting better reads, the plays of people who posted recently are matching my read on them.

Oh but Saske, I can't read Saske

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So 3 people voted A50 because Alch told them to?

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RCE has been quite under the radar for me

What's the case on him?

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oh hi i got prodded

i'm really uninvested in this game rn, and both of the wagons are essentially the same to me regarding raeds so idk what to do :/

Ausuka town?

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FL knows wagoning me is risky considering my claim so I'm slightly leaning town there. Cheeky pushing is basically ensuring her death.

Did you claim already?

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Hey I'm back from V/LA

I'm quite tired though so I'll be posting tomorrow

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I should probably say though that with SS's new posts and a reevaluation of his older posts, I now think he's more likely to be town because he struggles as town but powerwolfs as scum

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@Chara

I was slightly scumreading SS for being underwhelming, but then I remembered that is characteristic of his towngame, and not his scumgane, where he'd try to do better early game. And his recent activity in some theory talk and talking to players makes him more town to me now.

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I should have said this earlier, but I'm not actually townreading the miller-related claims because I think scum are likely to have gotten fakeclaims for it.

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Pisskop... I think is town?

Cheeky I townread earlier but since then I noticed them being less of a presence and I'm willing to reconsider that read.

Saske I don't particularly scumread.


Oh, and I am willing to not lynch DJ for today, because I don't want to risk losing a strong townie if they turn out to be town.

UNVOTE: DJ

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Oh and Mastina slight scumlean, I think their performance this game should be higher if she were town.

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I should have said this earlier, but I'm not actually townreading the miller-related claims because I think scum are likely to have gotten fakeclaims for it.

I do trust RCE's claim as town though.

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Wow you guys posted a lot

I'm not touching the Night 3 IC claim. I'm locktowning them until Night 3, in which I can locktown them or lynch them.

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Who did Katyusha replace?

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Oh Katyusha was Saske lol

I loved that alt

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Saske claimed N3 IC, right? Why are people lynching that?

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I think I'd lynch Cheeky over Urap but I'll need to check

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Saske claimed N3 IC, right? Why are people lynching that?

Why do you think they're lynching it?

What's this for?

Am I missing something?

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My thoughts? Do you think I'd have thoughts on that?

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Well I don't know about anyone else but I'm a Night 9 IC, you should totally leave me alive until then!

Ok I believe this was a joke but I want to give some theoretical thoughts on this, I'm giving a pass only to early ICs, i.e. those that will be revealed before the game ends, and not late ICs.

As long as they don't pull a Kokichi Oma with their IC claims I'm believing it.

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I mean, what reasons can you think of why someone might be voting an IC claim?

I can think of a few.

Only reasons I can think of are:

1. Being stupid
2. Suspicion of being a strong Mafia PR

And this is without context around Katyusha, but I think I still townread them independent of the claim.

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My scumpool's something like {Cheeky, singleton, maybe urap, maybe pisskop?, Chara's in this game?}

Where did this come from

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Like if hes scum i feel dumb but at this point im sure im tring scum and would probably feel okay abt that and i’d have plenty of content to find partners w so

This reminded me of a post he made as scum in a marathon Crazy Cops

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Who is EC?

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My scumpool's something like {Cheeky, singleton, maybe urap, maybe pisskop?, Chara's in this game?}

Where did this come from

I kind of have been tring ss of late

So have I

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I was withholding this read for some time because I didn't like how many scumreads I had, but I realised this one is stronger than the others:

VOTE: Ausuka

Like I read their posts and found them pretty underwhelming when compared to their other town games, and a lot of their content weren't even game relevant

I think it's hard to articulate my scumread on Ausuka because it's more like I've been keeping my eye on her as I read the thread and what she posted seemed scummy and it's hard to
get the same vibes reading in isolation, and I'm not bothered reading the whole thread again

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I've also scumread other players but I realised I've only scumping rather than scumread them.

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{RCEnigma}
{Something_Smart, Nero Cain}
{Katyusha, Chara, Alchemist, Almost50, pisskop}
{urap2, Baezu, Flavour Leaf, Vorkuta, RedFlavor, LUV, Cheeky}
{mastina}
{DJ, Ausuka}

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Oh wow
My reads are atrocious

DJ I've stopped reading and started just treating as a power wolf for some reason even though there's no reason to pursue that read

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Tbh I don't think I even did those reads right

Cheeky I townread earlier but I noticed a lower posting rate some time in between

I don't remember LUV or RedFlavor. URAP seems OK recently. Baezu I don't remember after the claim, and I only remember Vork meming.

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{RCEnigma}
{Something_Smart, Nero Cain, Katyusha}
{Chara, pisskop}
{Alchemist, Almost50, urap2}
{Baezu, Flavour Leaf, Vorkuta, RedFlavor, LUV, Cheeky}
{mastina}
{DJ, Ausuka}

Updated to be more accurate
URAP seemed fine in his recent postings

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Wait I think Cheeky should be up 1 tier

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Why is Chara so high on that list?

Their posts felt town

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Just because miller claim?

Exactly yes

How does miller claim mean town in this game

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Oh Red's the backup miller

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Is Red usually simple minded enough to townbin based off such criteria?

Because I feel like something's off with the lack of critical thinking here.

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In other news I'm starting to dislike Alchemist

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In this case it's town indicative I think.

Like I buy that he really believes it's as simple as he's making it out to be.

Do you have meta with him

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Is Baezu usually this fluffy?

This is unusual, but I think fluff!Baezu is town!Baezu.

SS I'm pulling this up again, but can you explain this?

I just re-ISO'd Baezu and realized she had near zero content.

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OK I went back to check the Death Note game I played with her. She naked hammered twice, which may reconcile her recent blind wagoning, but I see her having more Original Content in that game, even if it's just naked reads.

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Wow mastina you're really far behind

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Was she town there?

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She still could be using the same tactic of completely avoiding real-time interaction.

Also what I tend to do when I'm scum.

I also observed her doing that in the game where she had the

I have a guilty on X

role (she was scum)0

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Omg on re-iso everyone's looking like scum again

LUV posted almost nothing over the past few days

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Or we can just take what we know about LUV and apply it here. He doesn’t like to play town and he usually doesn’t make gambits. He’s probably just town here who rolled a negative utility role who thinks it can go great ways to clearing two players and wants out.

Oh...
uh...

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No not everyone I just re-ISOd some players and they all started looking like scum

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Baezu and LUV

But I'm kinda holding back on those reads for now.

Meanwhile I think the way mastina is catching up is scummy, thoughts?

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thinking about it, Kat kinda weirds me out. If I'm such an EZ read why does Kat ever vote me to get a "read" on me and risk the TvT and my eventual tunnel?

Kinda makes me want to lynch her again.

or am I over thinking?

No one has answered me why they're considering lynching a Night 3 IC claim.

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DJ is townreading me to an unreasonable degree and I think that's scum
DJ feels like a powerwolf in general

That would be an accurate description, yes.

I've scummed with stk and powerdriven a day 1 lynch on scum stk. It's really weird that you would think I can't read him given I solved that slot day 1 in anime upick after I think his first post? Given stk didn't realize my main it's normal for him to not get my read but given you seemed to think you knew my main I don't get why you would think this.

Wait DJ if you are who I think you are then it would provide an explanation for why you'd be able to confidently townread me here when noone has done that to me before.

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I'm not sure how much I'm willing to compromise on Cheeky. Their latest posts haven't pinged me town though they haven't pinged me scum either.

I think I'll be more willing to compromise there closer to deadline.

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He's aggressive and overconfident, which are town tells for some people.

Not from DJ.

REALLY not from DJ.

If I'm right on DJ then this would be true, though

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Mastina: Role != alignment

Also mastina: My role will prove me town

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I think I'll be more willing to compromise there closer to deadline.

how much closer? We are like 2 days away and I don't see much point in needlessly continuing the day b/c? Like what do you expect to happen in the next 48 hours or what are you waiting on?

Do you expect your Ausuka to suddenly grow?

I was thinking 1 day, but I think you're right that we aren't likely to go anywhere else.

I'm just... not too keen on the Cheeky lynch, even though I don't have a good reason against it.

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VOTE: mastina

I know my reads are changing a lot... but this is my current top scumread

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VOTE: Cheeky

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This may be weird but I give pisskop's role some scum points

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Katyusha is a N3 IC I'm not touching that

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UNVOTE:

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Ugh... based off gamestate reads I actually feel that pisskop has a higher chance to flip scum than Cheeky. But I don't feel comfortable taking the risks of pisskop being a real doctor...

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I was tired today but will be on until deadline tomorrow

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VOTE: pisskop

Doc+Vig doesn't seem right

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There was a pisskop wagon a while ago I don't know what changed

And no I'm not voting a popular wagon for the sake of being a popular wagon. It's a very easy way of being manipulated onto a mislynch. I'll be here till deadline if need be.

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What's MS's obsession with having to consolidate a wagon before deadline

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UNVOTE:

I didn't realise the investigative aspect of his role until someone pointed it out

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Are any of the mason claims real? I've assumed all of them to be lolcatting

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And no I'm not voting a popular wagon for the sake of being a popular wagon. It's a very easy way of being manipulated onto a mislynch. I'll be here till deadline if need be.

okay... but it's not an issue of popularity it's an issue of making sure a no lynch doesnt happen, i'd rather flip town despite having a confirmable role than not have a d1 lynch go through

What's MS's obsession with having to consolidate a wagon before deadline

thats... not an ms thing that's expected on literally every site with longer deadlines - no one wants a no lynch and when it's THIS difficult to get 7 votes on a single person you have to remind people that a no lynch is shitty and when there's like 2 days or so before the deadline you have to stop caring about your top scumread and compromise if you havent been already :/

Is

my

vote needed at this time?

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Fine have your way

VOTE: Cheeky

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I think it's my procastination and groupthink that's making me fail to realise the importance of wagon consolidation

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Are any of the mason claims real? I've assumed all of them to be lolcatting

lolcatting implies caught scum but

fl's mason claim is obviously fake because cheeky already softed "shitty role", vorkuta is memeing and probably scum anyway

pedit: i........................................... look at the clock. look at the votecount. if you're town ask yourself what your vote is going to accomplish on a 3 vote wagon when there's a good chance people will wake up after the deadline

I should probably say that I meant memeing/trolling when I said lolcatting. I thought they were the same thing and didn't know lolcatting meant caught scum

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VOTE: Vorkuta so full role is loyal compulsive vig. Guess who's alive.

Got it.

Vorkuta needs to claim

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As far as I could remember Cheeky was a compromise lynch which only happened because there weren't any other viable wagons.

This suggests to me that either scum were heavily bussing (which I don't see), or that there are no powerscum and they were mostly defending the Cheeky lynch, given the gamestate.

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Vorkuta needs to claim

This is suboptimal

How did you survive RCE's loyal vig shot?

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Wait never mind I think we can spare Vorkuta for now

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For now = 24 hours, not 1 day phase

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Actually never mind, I think Vork is full of BS and can die

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@stk Oh? Do tell

I'm trying to piece together RCE's play
*tinfoil* I'm not a very strong player in this playerbase, and I'm wondering why RCE would out himself and his role... on D2... on a not-very-hard guilty
But in the event that he actually did shoot me then wow I didn't actually expect him to

pedit
k

Lol

RCE already claimed Day 1

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FWIW, the reason why I wanted to spare Vork for a moment is because 4013 is hinting that SS did somethign to him, but now I still think Vork is likely scum anyway.

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I think I can guess what Vork's claiming here...

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@Kat what is wig

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I'd rather not end the Day now, just so everyone has a chance to check in. I'd really hate it if there was another Cop with a guilty but we never knew because we lynched so fast then they die.

I'd be fine with ending the Day in ~24 hours, though.

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DJ is town. 3813 doesn't come from someone who's planning to kill pisskop.

And yes Vork I got your damn fruit. I'm not falling for that trick twice, though

Okay there is no way any of this is clearing Vork

Vork is now basically confirmed scum

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wait what

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Hold on, if you hid behind me, I can't be scum from your POV or you'd be dead. Why would you open the day voting me?

It makes sense from his POV but I'd let him answer by himself

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Having said that I still think Vork is bullshitting scum

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Neighbor vendor hider lol

Let him answer for himself:

Vorkuta: What is your FULL role name?

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Multitasking

Okay I don't buy it

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Multitasking

Okay I don't buy it

This gave me flashbacks.

Don’t assume someone’s lying just because they have multitasking.

I'm not scumreading his multitasking for being a multitasking

I scumread it because it's not what he's claiming

[singletonking]

2 of those posts are "oh man, what if I inspired skygazer so much in ~ramblings~ that she made a roll just for me"

You weren't in that game, but a good amount of people were

Where's your Hider crumb

[singletonking]

Discussion: How often do people say "hide" naturally in a conversation.

I don't want to be too confbiased here, and I realized that Vork was the only one to have ever said 'hide' in this entire game

[singletonking]

TL;DR

You don't buy my claim or my crumb
and have decided that based on PURE FUCKING LUCK, one of my *checks activity log* 231 posts has that word in it, and no one else in the ~4000 posts has used it

wow

I love how much of a meme all of this is

Do you realize that I'm defending you here?

[singletonking]

I also give fruit to the person I hide

If this is the case, you are not MULTITASKING

[singletonking]

Does your role PM say you give fruit to the person you hide behind?

[singletonking]

Ok

[singletonking]

Does your role PM say you give fruit to the person you hide behind?

[singletonking]

I'm sorry for being annoying but I'm doing this for a purpose

Don't paraphrase. Just say yes or no.

[singletonking]

OK then

VOTE: Vorkuta

I don't want to end the day immediately, but what you have described of your role contradicts what your role actually does, so I'm voting to send a strong statement that I believe that you are scum.

L-2 btw

[singletonking]

SS, mastina and anyone else who is famailiar with normal roles can back me up.

I won't explain what's wrong with Vork's role in order not to help Axum how to fakeclaim better, but if requested I will.

[singletonking]

Unfortunately I believe his claim is possible, but I think there are too many strikes against him to keep him alive at this point-- not one but two flubs of his claim, as well as the loyal vig shot.

Unless anyone has a power that can clear him, which doesn't seem likely.

Do you see the contradiction that I see?

[singletonking]

Yeah there are also a lot of factors pointing to him scum besides the contradiction

[singletonking]

I don't scum read your meme plays

[singletonking]

Do you see the contradiction that I see?

I mean yeah, I know what multitasking does...

So why are you leaving the possibility of him being town open?

[singletonking]

...

UNVOTE:

[singletonking]

oh
you're telling me I could've vended to person A and hid behind person B

No. I'm asking you if your role says you're able to do that.

It could be either way, it depends on how Skygazer decided to do it. Go back and read it again, then let us know which it is.

By the way, thank you. This was a really good follow up.

[singletonking]

Will think more when I wake up

[singletonking]

I’m not going to claim anything right now without good reason.

Alch is town

[singletonking]

Ugh this is sudden but

V/LA 30 June - 3 July

[singletonking]

Town!Vorkuta.

Boom.

???

[singletonking]

but you were already calling him scum. Yelling at him about his role feels like scum overcompensating for something he knows isn't true.

I already was suspecting him, but I was trying to bait him into saying something that would make him confirmed scum.

[singletonking]

is there a reason to Ausuka guilty didn't come into play yesterday?

Because RCE decided to fakeclaim yesterday

[singletonking]

RCE saying that he fakeclaimed yesterday makes me feel unsettled. It feels... too good to be true.

[singletonking]

FL did you get any useful results last Night?

[singletonking]

RCE saying that he fakeclaimed yesterday makes me feel unsettled. It feels... too good to be true.

do you not buy he gambitted?

it seems pretty obvious: claim a shot on someone you strongly scumread besides your actual target, see how they react. vork scumclaimed and made up a fakeclaim that would explain why he wasnt shot and everyone saw through it, so there was no need to retract until today

Hmmm... I've not seen a town gambit successfully play out before, and what you say does make sense.

[singletonking]

On...?

Is this necessary? All this does is out a PR

[singletonking]

everyone's a PR

and besides, FL is scum, so they know it anyway.

There is at least one VT

[singletonking]

Hopefully last is FL but I get the feeling from RCE's actions it won't be that eaey.

4 Mafia slip?

Or fakeslip?

[singletonking]

No ok

Why couldn't have I been an idiot townie
who can't read

and was multitasking fv hider who used both actions on the same target?

Because Multitasking Fruit Vendor Hider means that each night, you can give fruit to any player and hide behind any player.

What you were looking for was

Combined

Fruit Vendor Hider, which allows you to target one player and use both actions on them. This is what both singletonking and I were dancing around when asking you for clarification.

Also, claiming hider in response to a failed vig shot is a pretty weak play that probably won't save you, especially since (ironically) you claimed NOT weak hider which, while that is totally something Skygazer would do, is tantamount to being bulletproof. And a bulletproof claim when you're under pressure will do you no favors.

Can confirm, pretty much this, yeah.

Ditto on this

GG

[singletonking]

But wow that town sweep

[singletonking]

Of course there are four mafia, in what world is 16:3 role madness balanced.

I was talking about it being 5:14