Pokémon Fusion U-Pick [Game Over]

[Oversoul]

So what's up with [hated] in the VC?

That’s me. I chose something so ugly I’m hated

[Oversoul]

Hated means they take one less vote on them to be hammered.

Should we run them up to L-1 and see if they get lynched?

Have you even read Skygazer’s votecount?

[Oversoul]

Hated means they take one less vote on them to be hammered.

Should we run them up to L-1 and see if they get lynched?

Have you even read Skygazer’s votecount?

Course. My post wouldn’t have happened at all if I hadn’t.

Then you would realize that the hated in this game is public and counts for a vote already. Why ask the question if you did read the VCs?

[Oversoul]

Immediate reaction to the hated line, they all either picked from the Bulbasaur evolution line, or legendaries.

This is not correct.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

[Oversoul]

Hated means they take one less vote on them to be hammered.

Should we run them up to L-1 and see if they get lynched?

Have you even read Skygazer’s votecount?

Course. My post wouldn’t have happened at all if I hadn’t.

Then you would realize that the hated in this game is public and counts for a vote already. Why ask the question if you did read the VCs?

Exactly.

I don’t get your point.

Why would we need to run someone to L-1 when we know their threshold is already L-1? I just do not get why you would entertain that question when the answer was sitting right in front of you.

Pedit: So you assume that the mod is lying to us about the threshold for votes...?

[Oversoul]

Immediate reaction to the hated line, they all either picked from the Bulbasaur evolution line, or legendaries.

This is not correct.

It's more specific, but also not.

I am literally hated because my combo could be found in a horror movie. I am not a starter or a legendary.

[Oversoul]

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

I was actually thinking that myself.

[Oversoul]

Does somebody wanna spell it out for the Whimsicott here?

I’m sorry if I’m dense. But if you could walk me through it, I would much appreciate it.

[Oversoul]

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

[Oversoul]

Y’all out here making nightmare fuel and I was making cute/cool stuff.

My thing is cute. But also horrifying. You know how something is so ugly it’s cute, right? That’s what I think at least. My other two were def scary. One looked like a lamprey

[Oversoul]

Hmm. Flavor Leaf can be town.
VOTE: Emperor

[Oversoul]

he has been asking a lot of questions which are useless and create no information whatsoever, which is the sort of thing scum do to look busy.

Unfortunately, this is all he knows how to do as either alignment.

Is that why he is has a 6-0 winrate?

[Oversoul]

He doesn't have a 6-0 winrate. I played a game with him where he lost, and he decided not to count it because he was VT.

This is one of the deepest views into a player's psyche I think I have ever gotten in a mafia game.

[Oversoul]

He adds a win every game because he thinks as long as he has fun, it’s a win

This is so wholesome and is also an equally deep look into a person's psyche. Gamma should feel bad for that vote.

[Oversoul]

its wholesome until you start bragging about it in your signature?

It's wholesome because he is only counting games he thinks were fun. Because then the signature doesn't actually matter.

[Oversoul]

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

It is role fishing and that combined with what I thought was an attempt to "feign" ignorance with the L-1/hated stuff made me incredibly suspicious of Flavor Leaf. That said his open admission was very townie.

[Oversoul]

he has been asking a lot of questions which are useless and create no information whatsoever, which is the sort of thing scum do to look busy.

Unfortunately, this is all he knows how to do as either alignment.

it's almost like if someone is pressured by negative incentives such as voting for their behaviour.......................they may realise changing their behaviour is a good plan if they want to play to their win condition.

-V

Lol, here we go down this same road again. Every game lately there's been one person who won't let me be me! Smart was it once but we're cool now. I hope I can say the same for you!
I don't...learn...

It is ok, Deb. You can be you here. It is a safe space. Until it isn't.

[Oversoul]

Hi I am a mason.

I will never trust you.

[Oversoul]

I am masons with mastina lol
Btw writing in the color of my pokemon's type

[Oversoul]

I have an ability that deals with type advantage, that’s what it can hurt, Chem.

This is what I am referencing, RedFlavor.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

There are two assumptions you have to make here. Let's explore both.

Assumption 1) Flavor Leaf is Town
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf tries desperately to plead with Chemist to stop crumbing
- Chemist ignores him
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf, under no pressure, claims that it is dangerous to discuss typing to get Chemist to stop. This serves a double purpose of warning other players from doing the same. Possibly because Flavor Leaf is worried there is a commonality between the players with the [hated] modifier.

Flavor Leaf is acting protective of Chemist and the game state by asking others not to claim seemingly innocuous details (typing) because through his role, he knows those details are

not

innocuous.

Assumption 2) Flavor Leaf is Scum
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf says nothing
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf now benefits from knowing Chemist's typing to better use his role

Flavor Leaf, if scum with a role that benefits from knowing Pokemone types, has much more to benefit by staying quiet and letting Chemist dig his own grave. He also benefits if other towns people see this and think it is safe to discuss these details.

Do you see now why Flavor Leaf openly giving that warning is so town? He gains so much more from remaining quiet and just letting the pieces fall into place.

Sure, I do admit that Flavor Leaf can be going for a big scum play, but it is much more likely this came from town and not scum.

[Oversoul]

BTW scum feel free to kill me my role is most useless thing in the world

[Oversoul]

I am masons with mastina lol
Btw writing in the color of my pokemon's type

Hardclaim this because I cc Mastina.

Have you not played with mastina

We just finished a game with Mastina... You were there?

Mastina claims Mason with neighbors all the time. Don't think you've caught her off that.

Which is why her claiming it here is suspect.

[Oversoul]

Gamma do you like playing scum more than town?

[Oversoul]

Mastina would know that her mason stuff is not believable anymore.

[Oversoul]

Mastina read on Gamma?

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Dr. easy

[Oversoul]

I think I have. But I’m looking for a buddy.

[Oversoul]

Other scum reads PB?

[Oversoul]

Hi I am a mason.

I will never trust you.

Your loss. Not trusting me is what scumastina prefers; trusting me actually is her nightmare so you not trusting me is in her favor.

[Oversoul]

RCEnigma
Chemist1422
Pink Ball
RedFlavor
love and friendship
Oversoul
Flavor Leaf
Menalque
book kid
Emperor flippyNips
Something_Smart
Avengers
Gamma Emerald
Skellen
Alchemist21
Dr Easy Bake

Here's where I'm at.

I got my eye on you.

[Oversoul]

I would appreciate people explaining their Skellen read because I do not see it. Maybe I need a new prescription.

[Oversoul]

Love and friendship can be town. I actually think Alchemist committed a town tell though

[Oversoul]

Pocket FL is still on my to do list.

I lightweight scum read this

I kinda agree with this, it's subtly LAMIST.
VOTE: RCEnigma

What does LAMIST mean?

[Oversoul]

is it the "there's one scum in this group" thing? it seems exactly like the sort of random, unfounded assertion that's in vogue with everyone these days, not a towntell.

No. I’m not gonna say it. I think I will save it for future games with him.

[Oversoul]

I got my eye on you.

What is bothering you about mastina? The readslist looks more or less pretty common going by the current reads of most people. Tbh I have no real grasp on her yet, it feels like most reads/comments on her seem to evolve from experiences with her?

In my experience, Mastina pulls a lot of stunts. She also is generally a good scumhunter. If she lives beyond a certain day she should be looked at very suspiciously.

I fully admit to not knowing how to read Mastina. Her reads come out of nowhere and half the time I think her reads are bs anyway.

[Oversoul]

+1 for Chemist, I do get the caught for the wrong reason vibe as well

[Oversoul]

Things do change, Gem. I stopped playing about the time you joined.

[Oversoul]

Also VOTE: Dr Easy Bake he has been asking a lot of questions which are useless and create no information whatsoever, which is the sort of thing scum do to look busy. Sad!

So what's up with [hated] in the VC?

Scum.

VOTE: Dr Easy Bake

Don't like DEB so far. #55 and #151 feel like subtle attempts to get more role specific informations out of Chemist and mastina during smooth conversation. I didn't liked Gamma's temporary vote on him though, although I don't think that's particularly ai for Gamma.

Those were the votes that had reasoning attached to them.

I will do you a flavor though and give you my reason -

you're not scumhunting

.

[Oversoul]

It's D1, I don't.

What do you do to contribute to the game then?

On D1? Entertainment. Relaxing. Watching things happen. Eye candy. I thought we'd been through this Smart...
My D1 is used to observe and interact, to get a feel of the people and the game. I am absorbing information.

Spoiler:

Game independent me wants this to live
Town me wants this to die

Shame

[Oversoul]

yeah deb wagon is really playstyley. if we're going to policy lynch someone we could just use one of the probably many vigs we have in this game

If only i was a vig

[Oversoul]

Game independent me wants this to live
Town me wants this to die

Game independent me wants to see DEB mature as a player and become stronger.

Town me wants to wring his annoying little neck

[Oversoul]

Deb is that old man in video games that only speaks in riddles

[Oversoul]

Things do change, Gem. I stopped playing about the time you joined.

Yeah and it was a thing before I joined, what are you on?

Are you sure? I think the concept existed, but not the acronym.

[Oversoul]

you're not scumhunting

.

It's D1, I don't.

Then how do you help town D1?

You're putting words in my mouth.

How?

Woosh

I'm ready for this to die.

[Oversoul]

Everyone townreading Gamma Emerald (Gem), please raise your hand!

[Oversoul]

i have an epic gamer townread on him

Why?

[Oversoul]

Why doesn't MS allow gifs anymore?

[Oversoul]

Daily reminder that I do not think Skellen is scum.

[Oversoul]

Today NerfNow has a comic that is very relevant to this game.

Spoiler:

That looks like Agumon!

[Oversoul]

I hope I won't regret saying this, but I think Avengers is town.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

[Oversoul]

I would like someone to town case Gamma for me.

[Oversoul]

How do I make gifs work? They never work for me now.

[Oversoul]

Pages and pages of Mastina and Avengers posts makes Debbie a dull boy.

Vote Gamma with me!

[Oversoul]

MariaR, why is Gamma town?

I feel like I am mostly confused by Gamma completely ignoring his burgeoning wagon.

[Oversoul]

Something Smart is scum. You heard it here first!

[Oversoul]

Pink Ball scum???

Find out on next week’s episode!

[Oversoul]

From what I've seen, we seem to have very different reads and I wanna know which of us is wrong

I’m bad at everything soooo

[Oversoul]

Probably still you tho PB

[Oversoul]

Pink Ball, why is Gamma town

[Oversoul]

Ok. I’ll just vig him :shrug:

[Oversoul]

Good luck, I'll just have my scum doctor partner protect me >:]

See!!! He admitted it!!! String him up!!

[Oversoul]

Actually think FL comes out worse in my mind from that interaction with book kid.

[Oversoul]

I didn't like that push from book kid either because I feel like she didn't believe anything she said and was just doing it because FL asked. Which is like what??

[Oversoul]

So they're both scum in your eyes?

No. Just saying it actually weakened my town reads on them. I don't agree with FL's "book kid has to push someone!" rhetoric when she could have just kept lurking.

[Oversoul]

Gamma can be town.

VOTE: love and friendship

[Oversoul]

Or lock scumming.

I fight it both ways

Why?

[Oversoul]

As i questioning it.

I’m kind of just back to talking and being devils advocate

I just don’t like people lock towning stuff like that

Or lock scumming.

I fight it both ways

Why do you not like people lock towning/lock scumming things like that?

And are you ok? Your tone is totally different after several people said the back and forth between you and Ausuka was weird.

[Oversoul]

Take a 24-48 break friend. You’re flying too close to the sun right now.

[Oversoul]

Wow.

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNipz

[Oversoul]

Probably going to vote GE otherwise here unless something changes in the last few pages. (Not for the lameist thing btw)

What reasons are you going to vote for Gamma Emerald? I would appreciate your read on Alchemist.

[Oversoul]

Wow.

What is your "wow" about?

Just take a look at his iso. Tell me if there is anything protown in there. I’ll wait.

[Oversoul]

Itlepip vote FlippyNipz with me!

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Gamma

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Gamma

Good sheep

Also flippynips could easily be scum here, will wait for catchup though.

Uh, not sheeping anyone, but ty

[Oversoul]

I did a poke fusion of what I think your Pokémon is Chemist and it looks horrifying

[Oversoul]

Aw

[Oversoul]

Mod, redflavir = mariar

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Oversoul
This doesn't leave until they explain their wonky ass progression

I thought more about your play and felt like it’s still likely you’re scum. Nice to know you’re really scumhunting though!

[Oversoul]

VOTE: Oversoul
This doesn't leave until they explain their wonky ass progression

I thought more about your play and felt like it’s still likely you’re scum. Nice to know you’re really scumhunting though!

It really looks like

you

aren't though

Nah I’m P sure I found 3 scums, you’re one of them. Avoided the question though. Other than me, who are you scumreading?

[Oversoul]

VC 1.19

Gamma Emerald (4): Avengers, Skellen, Dr Easy Bake, Oversoul,

Skellen (3): Pink Ball, Menalque,

Gamma Emerald

Dr Easy Bake (2): mastina, RCEnigma
Oversoul (2): [hated], RedFlavor
itlepip (1): Alchemist21
RedFlavor (1): Chemist1422
Chemist1422 (1): [hated]

RCEnigma (1): [hated]

Alchemist21 (1): itlepip
Flavor Leaf (1): book kid
book kid (1): Flavor Leaf

Not Voting (2): Something_Smart, Emperor flippyNips

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to reach a lynch. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2019-07-20 20:00:00).

VOTE: Oversoul
This doesn't leave until they explain their wonky ass progression

VOTE: Oversoul
This doesn't leave until they explain their wonky ass progression

I thought more about your play and felt like it’s still likely you’re scum. Nice to know you’re really scumhunting though!

It really looks like

you

aren't though

Nah I’m P sure I found 3 scums, you’re one of them. Avoided the question though. Other than me, who are you scumreading?

Okay fuck you, you asked NO QUESTIONS in that post!!!!!!!!!
I am scumreading Rcenigma right now btw, thanks for NOT asking

Right... Sure you are buddy.

[Oversoul]

I'm obviously sheeping with my Gamma vote but I'm really scum reading Menalque. This "pure" nonsense just isn's right. So I'll keep my vote where it is, but I want to get a Menalque wagon started tomorrow or when Gamma's has dropped.

Oh Dr. Easy Bake might actually be town after all.

[Oversoul]

What’s EICN?

Everything is Completely Normal, Skygazer's most recent large, with significant mod trolling and a bunch of the same players.

Fuck me dead that’s long

Is it worth reading?

From either a meta or an entertainment pov

What meta point of view do you mean?

[Oversoul]

I had my vote there to show Menalque I was okay with what he was doing

So... you were not voting your

only

scum read because you were okay with what another player was doing. And then you vote me,

not your scumread

, because you think my read progression on is unnatural or illogical. What makes it unnatural/illogical, and why is that scummy?

By voting me you are essentially declaring only those who vote in a logical, consistent pattern are town! But newsflash, that is exactly how a mafia plays this game. They DON'T want to seem flippant, illogical, unnatural because it draws attention to them. You're telling me, that in all these years that you've played mafia, you are saying that MAFIA are more likely to appear unnatural/illogical with their reads and not town. Is that true?

Before this all happened, please tell me, why exactly were you not putting

any

pressure on RCEnigma, your

only

scumread?

[Oversoul]

Ugh, I actually regret that I avoided replacement, I feel totally detached from the game. Ask me anything while I read stuff, I feel that's easier getting back into the game.

What is your opinion on Something_Smart, itlepip (love and friendship), and Emperor_FlippyNipz?

[Oversoul]

[Oversoul]

This might be overly dramatic, so sorry in advance. Doing this so people won't speculate. I do apologize for my replacement. I don't know, maybe this slot even gets modkilled who really knows.

I am Buttervee. A monstrosity so horrific I am hated. My hated mechanic goes away at some point. I have two abilities. One ability is the Surveyor role that Skygazer had in that northsidegal game. It is actually quite a cool role and I have been enjoying it. Anyway, when this game was feeling really slow and boring about 10 pages ago I used that ability. I could have used it any point in the game. Originally, I wanted to use it to bring in RadiantCowbells to merk the scums, but I opted for the lulz and I brought in DrippingGoofBall and Kuribo. Say hi, fam!

Anyway, I have one other ability that is quite powerful and I will keep it under wraps for now. I probably have already said too much. I just wanted to say I really enjoyed this game and its flavor. I am going to miss not being here for the remainder of the game. Something pretty terrible has just happened to my family and it requires my full attention so I must leave.

Anyway

Gamma to answer your question. I think you're scum. I have always thought you're scum. I don't believe you are scumhunting. Your votes seem to support that notion since you're only pressuring people to act a certain way, not to scumhunt. My read change on you was actually a very convoluted and poorly thought out gambit involving DGB and Kuribo. You see... I lied to them in my private topic. I told them I was an SK for the lulz, but since I am no longer going to be able to continue this game I am just revealing everything so people aren't left with anymore questions. I am sure my play will leave you all with plenty enough questions. DGB and Kuribo, I hope you do not find this to be in bad faith. I was honestly just messing around. I really appreciate your input. I don't know if you two will gel with my replacement, but for the sake of everything, I am not an SK lol. I am town. I do hope we can play together in the future.

My votes off you to love and friendship was mainly to pressure them, but then they got replaced. I actually think that slot is fairly likely town, I just wanted something to happen in this game because everyone is lurking. DGB's top two scumreads are MariaR via RedFlavor and EmperorFlippyNipz. At some point during the day I was like "I'm not gonna tell them I'm town, but I am just gonna try to get nightkilled and then laugh about it with them when I flip town" so that's why I voted FlippyNipz because that iso is literally devoid of any attempt to scumhunt and should be the first one to go in this game. I wanted to observed MariaR more to confirm that she is lurking and not really contributing. That is something I do all the time. I like to set what I consider activity traps. I WILL HAUNT ALL OF YOU IF YOU DO NOT ADHERE TO THIS!! FlippyNipz has been promising "content" and "catchups" since this day started and still only has like 10 posts. That is scum, through and through.

I also agree with DGB that RedFlavor is scum and by proxy MariaR is scum. MariaR has done no scumhunting and it is really her MO to lurk as scum from the meta dive I did of her. RedFlavor's iso is also fairly devoid of scumhunting in my opinion. She should definitely be under more suspicion. It also helps that she and Gamma are so buddy + buddy with the mutual townreads on one another.

So yeah, I think scum is definitely in {flippyNipz, MariaR, Gamma Emerald}. Make it happen. If there are anymore scum beyond that then good luck. That means there is an SK. I actually do not think there is an SK in this game because I feel like SOMEONE would have said SOMETHING about it. I was honestly waiting for someone to say that there WASN'T and SK or that they were looking for an SK because I think that would be a pretty big scumtell (for different reasons). But everyone has been mum about it, which leads to me to suspect that it is 4 mafia who know there is no SK and thus do not want to say anything until it is confirmed there is a second kill.

DGB thinks that Something_Smart is fairly likely to be mafia. She also suspects Menalque who up until this day has been pretty scummy with this annoying sheep Pink Ball gimmick Kuribo thinks that Skellen is scummy. Also, do not let mastina railroad you. Do something to conclusively prove that is town if you are going to let her live. I think she is probably town here, but who really ever knows with her. If you had to press me, I could see Avengers being scum, but I would go with Something_Smart as the fourth for now.

FlippyNipz
MariaR
Gamma Emerald
Something_Smart

This is my Will of Fire.

Again, I am sorry for being chaotic. Sorry for having to mass replace out again because it really was not my intention, but that's life.

VOTE: FlippyNipz

Good bye, friends!

[Oversoul]

Good game all. Ty for Kuribo and DGB for being my experiments
Gamma I got you!

[Oversoul]

Loved the role, Sky! It was fun to troll Kuribo and DGB

Also, shame on this town for killing my slot.