Pokémon Fusion U-Pick [Game Over]

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I’m a novice night 1 loyal Vigilante.

VOTE: Avengers

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Hated means they take one less vote on them to be hammered.

Should we run them up to L-1 and see if they get lynched?

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I’m a novice night 1 loyal Vigilante.

VOTE: Avengers

Is this a scumclaim?

Maybe, but it’s probably just been so damn long since I’ve been town, I forgot that I’m not supposed to scum claim when i am.

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And I’m StarLord.

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Makes sense.

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Immediate reaction to the hated line, they all either picked from the Bulbasaur evolution line, or legendaries.

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Hated means they take one less vote on them to be hammered.

Should we run them up to L-1 and see if they get lynched?

Have you even read Skygazer’s votecount?

Course. My post wouldn’t have happened at all if I hadn’t.

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Immediate reaction to the hated line, they all either picked from the Bulbasaur evolution line, or legendaries.

Is Bulbasaur hated? Since when?

Out of the gen 1 starters, he was always given the most flak, even though he’s the best.

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Gen 1 mechanically Kanto speaking

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Looks more like a Silver-Shadow fusion than Sonic.

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Hated means they take one less vote on them to be hammered.

Should we run them up to L-1 and see if they get lynched?

Have you even read Skygazer’s votecount?

Course. My post wouldn’t have happened at all if I hadn’t.

Then you would realize that the hated in this game is public and counts for a vote already. Why ask the question if you did read the VCs?

Exactly.

I don’t get your point.

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I said it specifically because it was posted up there already.

And that was my immediate reaction, i didn’t assume it was correct.

It was a very plausible analytical thing

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Does somebody wanna spell it out for the Whimsicott here?

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Stop crumbing, Sanic.

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Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

Spicy take: there’s exactly three scum in the gated group.

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Y’all in a neighborhood then?

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It wasn’t meant to be taken seriously at all or else they’d get lynched.

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Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

I just rolled scum like 4 games in a row, give me a break of that fancy feast

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Early town reads on Debbie D oh double g, RCE, Oversoul

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Add love and friendship into that as well

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He explained why.

Avengers’ believable claim.

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Sanic

quit

crumbing

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I think it’s townie.

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I have an ability that deals with type advantage, that’s what it can hurt, Chem.

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He adds a win every game because he thinks as long as he has fun, it’s a win

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I beat him when I was scum, so yeah

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Actually, him and flips just lost a scum game together, so in theory he should be 7-0

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Her join date is July 4th too

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Wow I’m so popular

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What my other said ^

I didn’t roll scum 5 times in a row, though

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Idk why you’re so hard on that this for, though, Red version of me.

It’s page 8. I think that’s solid page 8 analysis, and I don’t expect it to be a “this word is golden” kind of statement, especially with my scum rep.

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O wow i had no clue

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Here’s the story

Of a guy named flavor

But he isn’t leafy like one’d expect

He is red

And pushing Over

For defending me

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Wait did I miss Flavor Leaf appreciation page? That was my favorite page

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I would appreciate people explaining their Skellen read because I do not see it. Maybe I need a new prescription.

I thought I was p clear that I’m sheeping pink ball all game

Either wholesome or a strong pocket attempt.

It would work on me as well.

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FL I am fuckin hyped to be in a game with you again my man

Ah, man.

This guy’s gonna go all the way if he’s scum pocketing us.

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Idk man. You’re right. There is not a bone in my body that thinks you would actively, but that’s why. Haha.

That’s my weakness.

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Pocket FL is still on my to do list.

I lightweight scum read this

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i'd rather say LAMIST and explain what it means after than say look at me im so townie

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FL I am fuckin hyped to be in a game with you again my man

Ah, man.

This guy’s gonna go all the way if he’s scum pocketing us.

Are you really pocketed this easily?

Yeah, look at any scum game Tchill has ever played against me.

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Or look at Unabombah's sig.

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Or look at how Vorkuta plays against me always regardless of AI after a newbie game when we were both T/T he just hardcore flattered me so I'd protect him.

He ate a Night 1 Night kill as a newbie for it.

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I think the thought process is there, you just took a different form in the road. I think of all the votes Skellens is probably the most suspicious, or mine. But no one joined after my vote which is kind of what I thought would happen.

That's if Deb is town, which I don't really buy right now.

I can't recall a single post by DEB. Idk what that means, though

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and good to see Skellen again.

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Deb is that old man in video games that only speaks in riddles

Everything makes sense regarding DEB when you consider him some fusion of a Teenage Girl, a 60 year old combination party/grumpy granny, and a Jewish Princess.

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Catching up

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Pre flip always and forever, but keep individual reads as well.

Also, i didn’t mafia much today or yesterday. Mb.

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Debbie doggie do, are you VT?

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Here in Sweden same

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Pinky dinky doo

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I’m still busy; at an audition, then seeing midsommar with the Nipster.

I’ll take over this game once I settle down, aka when I work the next couple of days because i spend a lot of time on mafia at work.

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Pink Ball Wizard.

The boy plays a mean pink ball

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MariaR replaces RedFlavor!

and then there was one

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Are we ready for me to takeover

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Someone tag me in

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Give me something to grasp

What do

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Hmm...i don’t have reads right now. Someone needs to push me so i can omgus and force get myself here

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But like really push me, town incorrectly pushing me or scum pushing me for a mislynch, because elsewise it’ll just be posturing

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I feel it comin tho

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It’ll work.

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It always does.

People like to think by announcing something it ruins the reaction, but it actually enahances it because you then gotta deal with the group power of everyone knowin gut and basically it’s just a different reaction in itself.

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Oh yeah, menalque’s town

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<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

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VOTE: fl

His whole 'wow please push me!!! act is a show and not at all how town FL would behave.

Do i?

Disagree.

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I often wait until something pulls me in.

You should know this by now

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I have on record stated my zero lack of caring for early game...wanna know why...

Because I’m a late game town hyper carry.

Sound familiar? Bet it does.

This is a complete misrep coming from you.

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I also can’t recall ever attempting to read Maria Day 1, so I have no clue where that came from.

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You also stated that the “wow push me” is a show, but that’s literally how I play mafia.

I always am putting on a show; I’m a performer. That equates to here as well, so that is yet another misrep.

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You wanna know the funniest part about this?

I’m the second highest poster in this game, and you act like I haven’t been here, and that is very much by design.

Give me like 10 minutes and I officially become the highest poster in this game.

You’ve been baited.

VOTE: Book kid

Look at how RCE and Gamma acted about me coming in and getting reads.

They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

And that’s only on the surface. I’ve been here, and that’s backed up with my post count.

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I have on record stated my zero lack of caring for early game...wanna know why...

Because I’m a late game town hyper carry.

Sound familiar? Bet it does.

This is a complete misrep coming from you.

Ok but

a) this is irrelevant because it doesn't cover how fake your whole plea is

b) you do care as town earlygame just less

Sure, but I don’t always care to push something.

Sometimes I’m just out of it, can’t put together strong reads, and just waiting for something to happen.

Me making a grand entrance used to be the norm, like when I used to do all my LAST NIGHT TOMORROWS.

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I often wait until something pulls me in.

You should know this by now

Idk dude I think waiting for something to make you more involved is preeeeety different from coming into the thread all, 'wow I sure wish people scumread me haha'

What do you mean?

I’m a reaction test player, and I stated that very blatantly.

And you did exactly what I tried to get someone to do without even realizing you were doing exactly as I said.

You’ve been Third Degree Boon’d.

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You also stated that the “wow push me” is a show, but that’s literally how I play mafia.

I always am putting on a show; I’m a performer. That equates to here as well, so that is yet another misrep.

I don't believe that whatever value you assign to putting on a show comes before wincon. Trying to fakely manipulate people into townreading you, instead of playing directly towards town wincon, is a pretty objectively scummy move.

So? You don’t think I manipulate people when I’m town?

One of my strengths as scum is coming off as townie, at least earlier on, so i don’t get this comment either. You’re just throwing stuff out there like they apply at all when they don’t.

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You wanna know the funniest part about this?

I’m the second highest poster in this game, and you act like I haven’t been here, and that is very much by design.

Give me like 10 minutes and I officially become the highest poster in this game.

You’ve been baited.

VOTE: Book kid

Look at how RCE and Gamma acted about me coming in and getting reads.

They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

And that’s only on the surface. I’ve been here, and that’s backed up with my post count.

Ok but I didn't act like you haven't been here. You introduced that element yourself, talking about how you care less earlygame, and I said it was irrelevant, and now you're saying that's my case on you. Lol. Blatant misrep.

You just played a scum game with me. You should know better than anyone that I wouldn't go for a FL mislynch d1 as scum.

I don’t think you’re going for a FL mislynch, you’re going for a FL push, there’s a difference.

And I’m not surface level enough to think you are lock scum here or anything, but your push is inaccurate and you’re misrepping and twisting things around to fit your push.

Likely because you thought I wouldn’t be here to back it up, but that was precisely what I was looking for.

You fell directly into the trap.

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You wanna know the funniest part about this?

I’m the second highest poster in this game, and you act like I haven’t been here, and that is very much by design.

Give me like 10 minutes and I officially become the highest poster in this game.

You’ve been baited.

VOTE: Book kid

Look at how RCE and Gamma acted about me coming in and getting reads.

They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

And that’s only on the surface. I’ve been here, and that’s backed up with my post count.

Ok but I didn't act like you haven't been here. You introduced that element yourself, talking about how you care less earlygame, and I said it was irrelevant, and now you're saying that's my case on you. Lol. Blatant misrep.

You just played a scum game with me. You should know better than anyone that I wouldn't go for a FL mislynch d1 as scum.

False.

The “wow push me act” implies that I am not here, as that was part of it.

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I just played a scum game with you, and this is exactly what you did in that scum game, so idk wha you’re talking about with that.

Albeit, I was scum with you, but nonetheless, alignments aside, you started pushing at me there as well and not going along with my path

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I often wait until something pulls me in.

You should know this by now

Idk dude I think waiting for something to make you more involved is preeeeety different from coming into the thread all, 'wow I sure wish people scumread me haha'

What do you mean?

I’m a reaction test player, and I stated that very blatantly.

And you did exactly what I tried to get someone to do without even realizing you were doing exactly as I said.

You’ve been Third Degree Boon’d.

That's my point, you didn't wait for someone to get you into the game, you went and got reads actively via this, but in a scummy way. What you're saying isn't applying at all.

Lol you got me Boon. I fell perfectly into your trap.

What’re you talking about?

It’s lterally happening right now.

This is another misrep.

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You also stated that the “wow push me” is a show, but that’s literally how I play mafia.

I always am putting on a show; I’m a performer. That equates to here as well, so that is yet another misrep.

I don't believe that whatever value you assign to putting on a show comes before wincon. Trying to fakely manipulate people into townreading you, instead of playing directly towards town wincon, is a pretty objectively scummy move.

So? You don’t think I manipulate people when I’m town?

One of my strengths as scum is coming off as townie, at least earlier on, so i don’t get this comment either. You’re just throwing stuff out there like they apply at all when they don’t.

Town manipulation and scum manipulation are different.

It's not literally impossible to catch a good scum early, everyone slips up sometimes.

I’m not scum, so your point is invalid, though.

Literally every single thing you are pushing is scum isn’t plain wrong because I’m town which proves everything you are saying incorrect.

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Is*

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VOTE: fl

His whole 'wow please push me!!! act is a show and not at all how town FL would behave.

<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

Town FL also tries a lot harder to read Maria here.

This was you case?

Explain because that just feels like grasping at straws because you need to make a strong push somewhere.

And i really don’t care to solve Maria ever, so i don’t understand that comment.

I have rarely ever actively attempted to accurately read Maria. Especially early game.

And if I have, i likely tunneled her. So that’s another counter meta read.

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Just because I’m reading a game doesn’t mean I’m reading a game.

I read but don’t comprehend stuff so have no analysis or actual opinions to give.

That’s when i don’t post.

And a lot of times when I choose to post it’s because of someththing happening in real time, which gets me present, and i can catch up in that way.

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I just played a scum game with you, and this is exactly what you did in that scum game, so idk wha you’re talking about with that.

Albeit, I was scum with you, but nonetheless, alignments aside, you started pushing at me there as well and not going along with my path

Exactly. We were scumbuddies and everything was planned to some extent using Discord, that's an entirely different beast to pushing Town FL as scum.

This is why this is a misrep, and anyone who knows me should be able to see this.

I NEVER make the choice to bus Day 1 if I don’t have to.

I’ll scum theatre, but that was straight up pushingz

I only push and bus my scummates when they position themselves in contradiction to me.

I bussed JJH recently because he stated he was going to bus me the night before.

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Also, I’m officially the top poster in this game, so that push on me is flat out incorrect and seems to be coming from ScumYou.

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I NEVER take you on this way as scum, and you should know that by this point.

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VOTE: fl

His whole 'wow please push me!!! act is a show and not at all how town FL would behave.

<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

Town FL also tries a lot harder to read Maria here.

This was you case?

Explain because that just feels like grasping at straws because you need to make a strong push somewhere.

And i really don’t care to solve Maria ever, so i don’t understand that comment.

I have rarely ever actively attempted to accurately read Maria. Especially early game.

And if I have, i likely tunneled her. So that’s another counter meta read.

Never said it was a strong push. And you're right that I needed a push, RF replaced out and Maria couldn't like respond to the case, and I saw your 'please push me' and went with you.

It just feels incredibly fake , when you're a strong town player who is more than capable of making reads for himself, and there's the whole subconscious bias that scum should want to be townread. And it feels more like manipulating for trs than manipulating to solve.

I am manipulating for tr’s.

And go check like any newbie games I play.

I CONSTANTLY have no reads.

I don’t look for scum, I look for town.

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I don’t get your “make reads for yourself”

I am making reads for myself. This right here is the definition of me making reads for myself, both with the real time interaction, and the change in game state.

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For like the fifth time: FL yes you're here. I have stated soo many times that's not part of my case yet you keep going on about it. Why?

And you were wrong.

It was part of your case when you said the show part because that’s literally what it was about.

I was literally stating the not being here thing and pushing at that implying that the show is why.

You saying it’s not is just a contradiction on your part because pushing that line of action is the exact same thing.

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I NEVER take you on this way as scum, and you should know that by this point.

Idk dude spamming with a slice of misreps is kinda your response to a push as either alignment. The response is slightly towny because I expect the misreps to be a bit heavier if you're scum but it's not by that much.

And this is you setting up backing off in case the crowd doesn’t go your way.

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I NEVER take you on this way as scum, and you should know that by this point.

Idk dude spamming with a slice of misreps is kinda your response to a push as either alignment. The response is slightly towny because I expect the misreps to be a bit heavier if you're scum but it's not by that much.

This isn’t spam. This is me hyper analyzing.

I’m giving insight and analysis and commenting on hand.

Posting a lot does not equal spam. Don’t try to push that with negative connotations.

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So you have 1 thing and basing an entire read off of one thing, which you admittedly said is something with both alignments, proving it’s NAI, and chose not to comment on your only other post about it.

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I don’t get your “make reads for yourself”

I am making reads for myself. This right here is the definition of me making reads for myself, both with the real time interaction, and the change in game state.

You're scumreading me for pushing you right now. I don't see how that's relevant to you making that Gambit instead of isoing people from the start.

No, you don't need to be totally not present to play off the idea you have no reads as scum. As town, maybe.

I’m

voting

you for

pushing

me, yes.

Votes do not equate to scum reading for me all the time, and I generally sit on the not voting side for a lot of games.

I still haven’t ISO’d people, so idk what that’s about.

You could be town, but you’re push is bad, so there’s nothing saying that it isn’t scum.

I read people on a chain of actions, not just a singular action, and sometimes something townie can become scummy after the chain has more links.

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This isn’t really a gambit. My reaction testing was. This is the results of said gambit

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As scum, i could easily just fake consistent reads.

It’s easier to be consistent as scum than town, and I care about being consistent more when I’m scum than when I’m town

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And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

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I just wanna lurk out until late game tbh

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I’m getting irked real easily all around site lately.

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Just because I’m reading a game doesn’t mean I’m reading a game.

I read but don’t comprehend stuff so have no analysis or actual opinions to give.

That’s when i don’t post.

And a lot of times when I choose to post it’s because of someththing happening in real time, which gets me present, and i can catch up in that way.

This is almost word for word a post from Scum!FL in anime upick.

Yeah, I’m really trying to push that line of thinking the past few months.

Pretty sure I’ve been posting in all my games for the past few months.

It just happens I rolled scum 4 games simultaneously so most of those were scum games, but I do say it as town too, which is weird because I’m like 98% sure you’ve been in multiple games with me where I’ve said it.

So it should seem familiar.

While true, you only spoke a partial truth

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And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

This isn't true either but I buy that FL believes this. On the plus side both if my townreads in FL/Book are stronger.

How is Book townie?!?!?! From that complete nothing of a push.

She misrepped and pushed bad meta.

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And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

This isn't true either but I buy that FL believes this. On the plus side both if my townreads in FL/Book are stronger.

And I don’t misrep.

People just don’t word what they mean correctly, and I read exactly what they say.

They misrep themselves.

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I help them realize that what they said was incorrect and they feel annoyed that I knew what they meant, but questioned what they stated not what they meant.

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Just because I’m reading a game doesn’t mean I’m reading a game.

I read but don’t comprehend stuff so have no analysis or actual opinions to give.

That’s when i don’t post.

And a lot of times when I choose to post it’s because of someththing happening in real time, which gets me present, and i can catch up in that way.

This is almost word for word a post from Scum!FL in anime upick.

Yeah, I’m really trying to push that line of thinking the past few months.

Pretty sure I’ve been posting in all my games for the past few months.

It just happens I rolled scum 4 games simultaneously so most of those were scum games, but I do say it as town too, which is weird because I’m like 98% sure you’ve been in multiple games with me where I’ve said it.

So it should seem familiar.

While true, you only spoke a partial truth

It's probably not a post that sticks out when you're obvtowning, so possible.

I’m always obv towninng.

Even as scum, people just don’t understand the logic.

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And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

This isn't true either but I buy that FL believes this. On the plus side both if my townreads in FL/Book are stronger.

How is Book townie?!?!?! From that complete nothing of a push.

She misrepped and pushed bad meta.

Hmm, do you buy that she solo pushes you for towncred then?

Why wouldn’t she?

It’s NAI from scum’s perspective to push me, and you’re more likely to come out of it as TvT, especially with how I was posting, no one will take my push seriously.

I don’t necessarily think that’s happening, but I don’t think it’s not happening.

And like L in Death Note, even if something has a 7% likelihood of being truth, it’s good to push it like you are certain because it helps you see things you wouldn’t.

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That was just a quote from Death Note.

I’m higher than 7, but not over 30, but I generally am not 30%+ day 1.

Lockscum for me is like 51%-70%, confscum is like 71-90, blatantscum 91-95, mechanically scum 96-99.

He’s just scum 100

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I made those all up, though

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And I don’t misrep people as scum.

They just don’t word themselves correctly, and I eat up at what they say.

It’s very literal in that sense.

This isn't true either but I buy that FL believes this. On the plus side both if my townreads in FL/Book are stronger.

How is Book townie?!?!?! From that complete nothing of a push.

She misrepped and pushed bad meta.

She could be town but she’s not townie

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They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

Right, the most likely explanation here is that Ausuka, who prefers town and is better at town than scum, is going to try to mislynch YOU on day 1.

I already brought that up.

I by no means think ausuka’s trying to mislynch me.

She’s trying to push me to get town read after a presumed 1v1

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They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

Right, the most likely explanation here is that Ausuka, who prefers town and is better at town than scum, is going to try to mislynch YOU on day 1.

I already brought that up.

I by no means think ausuka’s trying to mislynch me.

She’s trying to push me to get town read after a presumed 1v1

And like I said, i don’t even really think Ausuka flips scum here, not locked townin like seemingly everyone else

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Gamma, Ausuka and I literally just got wrecked as scum together. If you want a more accurate representation of our scum game together, check out Talk About An On Going Game.

The reason that worked so well is because Ausuka and I never push each other really when we’re town, especially not Day 1.

I don’t believe Ausuka ever has pushed me.

We’ve argued, but i don’t think she’s pushed me.

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Gamma, Ausuka and I literally just got wrecked as scum together. If you want a more accurate representation of our scum game together, check out Talk About An On Going Game.

What?

@gamma - Ausuka and I*

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Ausuka and I have been scum together twice this year.

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No

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And I have also clearly stated i don’t necessarily think she’s scum.

Why is getting pushed like I’m lock scum on her

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As i questioning it.

I’m kind of just back to talking and being devils advocate

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I just don’t like people lock towning stuff like that

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Or lock scumming.

I fight it both ways

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Idk. Just something I do I guess. Especially earlier in games.

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Same

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As i questioning it.

I’m kind of just back to talking and being devils advocate

I just don’t like people lock towning stuff like that

Or lock scumming.

I fight it both ways

Why do you not like people lock towning/lock scumming things like that?

And are you ok? Your tone is totally different after several people said the back and forth between you and Ausuka was weird.

Makes sense.

I’ve gotten hard irritated on site lately, and it’s not because of anything in this game, so it probably changed.

I have no clue, that’s just a personality thing i guess I’ve noticed i do. I don’t necessarily think it’s the right way to go about things or wrong way, it just is if that makes sense

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But FL IS the sun. My sun and stars. And I'm the moon of his life.

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Flippynips is out of town this weekend. He should have VLA’d.

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im impressive.

go check out Pastries that just ended! Gamma, DGB, and Kuribo were part of it, so maybe thats why they came up.

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oh i'm still voting fl from that thing lol

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maria

Interesting.

VOTE: Maria

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I think the post above is very grasping at strawsy. Gamma could be scum, but i don’t think those would be reasons. The scum scum comments kind of weird as scum to try and poke at myself and Ausuka.

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Fuuuckkk when’d Jibril get here. Imma get mad mad paranoia this game later

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There’s a lot of players here that I gut read want to hard defend, and certain players like Jibril i either turn on when they’re town when i know they’re town, but a second of doubt gets me to it, or i hard defend and they end up being scum.

I feel Menalque has that equity as well. Kind of Gamma too, but in a different evolved way

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It is my scum day, where’s my cake

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Also SS, what are your thoughts on the Maria wagon?

I don't think it would exist if she were scum.

This.

UNVOTE: Maria

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actually, changed my mind, I want this first, then Maria tomorrow

VOTE: itlepip

Why is Maria a high scum read but you aren’t fine with that growing wagon?

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Accidental alt slip.

My bad.

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I was Chillplay Bombahskiies in TM2018

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Don't apologize that was great comedic timing

I also feel it as a potential answer to the question too.

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I've always given honest self-meta, even as scum.

@Menalque - meh, idk yet.

I kinda wanna Sheep, but something’s fishy and keeping me off

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My auto correct thinks Sheep is a proper noun so it Auro capitalizes

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Not sure yet. There’s some stank in the aura around here. Not sure where it’s coming from, but yeah. I’ll get to this bottom

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I could be on at 4am, or i could be on at 4pm. Just depends what’s going on with life.

I don’t have much to say right now. Kinda waiting for more stuff to happen.

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I’m not against a Flippy lynch but if we let him live a bit we might get another golden post like in anime Upick where he forgets his SK result for a few Days.

Lol wut

It got nominated for Kodak.

We literally had to stop playing because everyone needed to make an LMAO post with nothing attached.

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Menalque is low key hard pinging me, but the way he’s playing makes me town read him, and I feel like I’m being tricked into thinking that’s special to me, if that makes sense.

Like he’s doing everything correct, but I think he’s possible scum making sure I feel that way.

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Is he town-pinging you?

I mean, yes, but i think it’s scum making sure I town read there.

I’m not saying that I wanna push there right now, I’m just stating that this is a paranoia I’ve had all game. Maybe i do want to.

I’m very confused when it comes to the slot.

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Like I said, it’s just paranoia.

Apparently my gut is good with him too. Him and URAP killed me off real early because early game i made comments about them being the scum.

That also makes me feel he’d play specifically in a way to get me to his side.

I could be wrong, and I have no case, but if I die, don’t give him credit for town reading me.

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I’m not good enough to do that FL

One of the last players to tell me this was Jibril, and everyone else backed it up. I got hard pocketed by her. Caused her to win a scum game, then afterwards had me lacking my faith in town reading her correctly, and I hammered her, she was town, i knew she was, then Tchill killed me that night and scum won

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Boon, what makes you think he can do that?

What makes you think he can’t?

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So... when he was scum, you scumread him and died for it.

Here, you townread him, but for some reason you're afraid that since last game he's magically learned to post exactly what is necessary for you to townread him?

I scum read him early on, but i didn’t up going after him really. I think i got into it with teacher.

He played it well last game too, and I was killed off Night 1.

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Also FL if you read the scum pt for that game you’ll see that my way of trying to pocket you is by pushing you and low key scumreading you

Have I done that here?

No, I’ve done literally the exact opposite bc I’m town

Also did you even scumread me outside of mindmelding with sushi about me being a good first vote — I don’t think you did, you were pretty absent, I just wanted you dead because I was worried about lategame you

Well, there’s an answer for everything, I guess. -.-

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What makes you think he can’t?

Dude has one scumgame on the site.

I've been playing for three and a half years, and I still can't do that.

I'm not saying it's impossible, some people such as Nahdia and MariaR came to the site and immediately played amazing scumgames. But the vast majority of people have to walk before they can run.

*cough* my first scum game I brought a confmason from Day 1 to 4p lylo, planned a fake tracker guilty on a buddy, lead a push on my other buddy push on massive who was going down, then no killed to get to 4p lylo, where I mislynched Titus for the win.*cough*

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I’m not good enough to do that FL

Master is easy to pocket.

@SS - this is why i don’t do well with players like Menalque or Jibril.

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I'm excited for when I roll scum against Boon. I want to see how that plays out

Notes for post game in case of Scumthing_Smart.

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The amount of times I’ve hard pushed someone as scum, only to be right but not trust myself so hard that i willingly jump into the pocket of said correct scum read is almost memeworthy at this point.

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Do you have any wishes excluding PB?

If i had one wish

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I am not voting

I have no strong strong reads

I just have thoughts, like how I did with menalque

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I picked the towniest pokemon ever btw.

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WTF YOU MADE THAT VIDEO I JUST WATCHED IT NOT ONE HOUR UH-GO

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I think reading me is a fluid thing. It’s gonna change as games go by, likely every game changes a little.

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@Flip-Deb feud

Spoiler:

[insert Pops from The Goldbergs gif with a “What’s happening?!?”]

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Replace Taco Corp with the Boon Block, and I will take both Andre and Ruspen.

Also how do i gif

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Also, it's Ruxin TYVM.

I thought that was the first name

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Ruxin ruspen

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FL why were you not here early to drop that sweet sweet hammer

Idk.

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Did someone get hammered?

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Stop trying to gaslight me.

I’m Taco roleplaying damn well, tyvm.

Even with the fuck up

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VOTE: Flip let's just get this over

This is probably scum.

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Is it on Flips? Probably not hammering flips.

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So we’re gonna make a big League hydra, and sign as characters, right?

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So we’re gonna make a big League hydra, and sign as characters, right?

Spoiler:

I call Rafi and/or Andre

You’re obv, Ruxin, but I still agree with that.

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VOTE: DEB

Not gonna lie, I’ve been working, so haven’t seen what went down yet. I just checked the most current page when I was having my unsweetened ice tea.

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I forgot this was the game with the Avengers. It threw me off for a second. Who’s Iron Man?

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Hmm...yeah, this is a scum motivated wagon.

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So we’re gonna make a big League hydra, and sign as characters, right?

Spoiler:

I call Rafi and/or Andre

You’re obv, Ruxin, but I still agree with that.

Yeah, I obviously am, I was just fucking with you.

Spoiler:

That’s fair, because I call Taco because I can rock that on posting style.

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@Flippy - claim

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Y’all, it’s Day 1 in a large. How you tryna play something like that? Every game of mine’s different.

I haven’t done like anything. Check out Pastries, albeit short, I did the same thing, and I came in eventually, Day 2 onwards and rocked hard.

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Didn't you tunnel Sky

I don’t remember.

I say a lot of things that might not be true, but when saying them I believe they are true, and can be proven wrong.

Did I tunnel Sky?

Because Pisskop got lynched there, and I wasn’t around at all there to be a part of the debacle.

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Y’all, it’s Day 1 in a large. How you tryna play something like that? Every game of mine’s different.

Yes, true, I should have added an "in my experience" to that, because we both know my experience with town-you is pretty limited

Fair. I think I’m in a transitionary play period again, though. I’m kind of burnt out of mafia after all those scum games, so I’ve been taking it slow.

And i kind of like my do nothing then game solve attitude.

Felt really good to have everyone against me in Pastries then to end the game with my path being the correct one.

Pretentious has a couple good games under his belt now.

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Can someone quote the Flips claim?

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Didn't you tunnel Sky

I don’t remember.

I say a lot of things that might not be true, but when saying them I believe they are true, and can be proven wrong.

Did I tunnel Sky?

Because Pisskop got lynched there, and I wasn’t around at all there to be a part of the debacle.

I remember you pushed Sky D2

I pushed literally every single player that day phase. Every single one, and moved on to the point I town read them.

I did it with flips, Sky, espresso, Pine, and even DGB to an extent. Even the scum i had reasons to town read, so i turned to a mech solve.

Pretentious is very mechanical, I realized. Solid extension of me.

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I don’t see why he would not drop the hammer on me if he was scum & just play the. “I haven’t been reading but saw L1 & couldn’t resist” card

I think you're right.

Of course, I also think him being scum with you is a real possibility, so it doesn't look BETTER for you, but if you flip town I'm willing to trust this read.

Even after the Cheeky situation?

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Yeah, explain the abilities please

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You said you were a COP

You said you were a COP

He was referencing another game.

Spoiler:

Check the scummie nomination Kodak moment section if you want to see what he’s talking anout

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My second ability is being able to move to another location for safety. Any actions used on me in the night will fail when I use this ability

Wait. This is a Commute.

I have this ability as well.

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I also hard defend scum and town as town, though, so what’s everyone’s point with this me defending as scum like it’s exclusive

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I also hard defend scum and town as town, though, so what’s everyone’s point with this me defending as scum like it’s exclusive

No idea, could u hammer tho pls?

Why would I hammer town?

I think we should pivot.

I don’t even know the case on Flippynips, I’m assuming it’s because he hasn’t done anything.

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Look at his thought process behind his read on me.

He went from town reading me, then thinking about it, and then moving back to null, possibly scum

That’s a town trajectory, not a scum trajectory.

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Why is that not a scum trajectory?

Slash why is that not fakeable as scum?

Why risk losing your main defender as scum?

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I mean, if he’s scum, then that was his thought process.

I have a pretty high accuracy of reading Flippy.

And while I generally get paranoia I’m wrong to soul read there, something usually comes back to make me feel I’m right.

Look at how I town read him in Pastries.

I faked a guilty on him, and immediately was able to figure out if he was town or scum.

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Don’t really remember her tbh, she’s trying to pocket me if she’s scum, though, bet

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Ugh, guys, Bloomingdale’s sucks the soul out of me

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Who’s Murica

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I could go Avengers.

BW is Black widow in avengers? I only remember Iron man posting.

My commute is not called Night Time Scurry, which sounds kind of like it should be a part of anime uptick not here, but I digress.

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SS, you’re read on me feels fabricated. I feel like you’re actively choosing to scum read me, so I’m leaning Scumthing Smart because of it.

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Mine are half and half.

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SS, you’re read on me feels fabricated. I feel like you’re actively choosing to scum read me, so I’m leaning Scumthing Smart because of it.

I'm pretty sure the last thing I said on you was that I agreed with flippy's townread on you.

The post that made me want to say that was your ????’s

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I don’t feel it was JUST for that claim.

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Anyway Boon you're in my "sort later" bin where you usually are, unless flippy flips scum which would shoot you way down.

Okay, like...i am thinking town Flippy, but paranoia makes me feel he could be scum, but I’m not really trying to go tryhard mode this game this early

Also, RCE or SS, who am i more afraid of when I’m scum? Who’s more of a nuisance?

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And I actually think my thoughts on you are way more complex and nuanced than they would be if I were scum.

Idk. I’ve only seen Scumthing Smart once, and he claimed miller first page when Miller claiming wasn’t in the meta.

I think nuanced is just something you can do either alignment probably

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I also push the tinfoil theory more often than not

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In general.

I feel you guys understand me as a player more than anyone else here.

You guys do need to keep that in mind that it’ll forever evolve and I’ll be playing counters to you.

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Town and scum alike to town you and scum you

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Wtf Maria was in anime upick

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PB-MariaR feels like SvS, not gonna lie

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I've said that I don't want you lynched 'cause it's better for you to create a false dichotomy between us to have a better chance on lynching me. I'm not following that path, sorry

I lol’d

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Entirely based on the past couple of posts by them. Idk the initial post in question

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I mean, I can see it. You could easily just be pushing a scum push on me without having an actual read on me to create a gamestate where I don’t slip by as scum.

But you could easily be doing that projection as scum. Nuanced, but that’s my surface level