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Post Post #3003 (isolation #200) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:58 am

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In post 2997, MariaR wrote:Ceph having basically no confident reads besides townreading his partner this late in the game is just ???
and you think that's a high equity decision for me as scum because of why, exactly?

here are some somewhat confident reads for you anyway: gaiden is town, dunnstral is town, pops is town
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Post Post #3005 (isolation #201) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:08 am

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In post 3004, MariaR wrote:It makes you quite flexible in the stances you can take and mold your play into what seems correct. With all the content we've had and even a flip it's very surprising you don't have more to say or more confidence.
People want your slot lynched and you're just here going 'welp'

What makes you townread the people you do?
And despite my observation that what I've been doing all game has plainly not been working, I decided to merrily continue down the path to my own lynch because... I'm an idiot, I guess? And if I'm doing this so I can "mold my play into what seems correct," then where are the receipts? When have I done that? Am I waiting until page 250 to execute this daring plan?

I agree that most players would exhibit more confidence at this time. It would also look town to pretend to have that. You've played with me before, so I'm surprised that you haven't yet figured out that this is not unusual.

The bolded only seems to demonstrate my point that the way I've played the game so far is not a good scum strategy at all. But I guess you think I'm some sort of drooling moron. Thanks.

What makes me townread those players is that they are town. Specifically, Dunn has been making logical progressions all game and engages people in a way that feels like genuine sorting. Gaiden is always like this and I think his lackadaisical attitude shows that he doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks of him; also, I have a high degree of faith in Kagami's ability to read this person. pops is clearly having fun with the game and his posting, especially in the second half of this game, has reminded me of his town posts in Guns & Roses, which just ended.
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Post Post #3006 (isolation #202) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:11 am

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the shitty meta thing i did a while back was i wanted to see if pops sounds like he's having fun as scum. in the one scum game i looked at, he was clearly not having a good time and there is zero levity in any of his posts, but as previously noted, that game looked like a miserable slog so i didn't chalk too much up in his column for that
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Post Post #3007 (isolation #203) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:13 am

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i'm bothered by thought processes like 3004. it's so level-zero, "all prima facia scummy sounding posts come from scum" thinking. apparently that netted you all the oka lynch, but i don't think it's a methodology that leads to many town wins
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Post Post #3069 (isolation #204) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 3063, Creature wrote:Anyone still believes Golden Robster can be scum?
sure, why not?
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Post Post #3070 (isolation #205) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:59 am

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In post 3067, popsofctown wrote:Creature if I randomly named 5 people day 1 in the first post of the game, one average 1 would be scum, right?
If four flipped town, would the fifth one be more likely to be scum?
i did tell you creature wasn't logical
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Post Post #3071 (isolation #206) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:00 am

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i do not endorse a bitmap lynch no matter what DV flips.
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Post Post #3072 (isolation #207) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:01 am

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if i could press a button and have everyone be dead except for kagami/gaiden and dunn/bit i would definitely press it
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Post Post #3075 (isolation #208) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:02 am

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the more i think about it the more i think all remaining scum will be found in maria/GR/shiro/unwnd
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #209) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:02 am

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In post 3074, Bitmap wrote:
In post 3071, Cephrir wrote:i do not endorse a bitmap lynch no matter what DV flips.
Didn't you scum read me earlier?
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Post Post #3080 (isolation #210) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:05 am

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i didn't earlier but their disappearance has left me feeling cold
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Post Post #3082 (isolation #211) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:08 am

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i dont think itd be possible for me to build a case i believe in

i just dont feel like shes scumhunting or being very memorable

in the past ive aggressively scumread her and gotten into TvTs in like every game iirc and the fact i've not hated her posts more (while also not liking them because they're so low impact to me) actually makes me suspicious as a result
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Post Post #3083 (isolation #212) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:08 am

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idk im kinda just trying to leave some thoughts on the assumption its fairly likely im dead here
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Post Post #3088 (isolation #213) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 am

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In post 3086, Bitmap wrote:
In post 3076, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3074, Bitmap wrote:
In post 3071, Cephrir wrote:i do not endorse a bitmap lynch no matter what DV flips.
Didn't you scum read me earlier?
yes

i have been convinced
Did DV say anything about me in your PT that made you to believe this?
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Post Post #3099 (isolation #214) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:27 am

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you aren't dying to intermission lmao
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Post Post #3104 (isolation #215) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:29 am

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what question? 3098?
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Post Post #3108 (isolation #216) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:31 am

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if the scum are foolish enough to leave kagaiden alive we'll happily collect our free win tia
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Post Post #3112 (isolation #217) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:33 am

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In post 3110, Ankamius wrote:ceph

there's literally two other pairings that are essentially IC pairings
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Post Post #3113 (isolation #218) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:33 am

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In post 3109, MariaR wrote:
In post 3104, Cephrir wrote:what question? 3098?
Mhm, you changed your mind on Bitmap right? Why is that? I think the last few pages have been very telling so your reasoning is something I'm very interested in
pedit: So you'd join us?
i will try to find it, someone convinced me with a specific argument but i can't remember who or what
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Post Post #3123 (isolation #219) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:43 am

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In post 2922, Cephrir wrote:
In post 2920, Bitmap wrote:Cool, my pair is town.
yeah, probably. i expect oka says anything to the effect of "gamma stop ur nuts" in response to gamma being nuts if he's scum with dunn
maybe it was just this
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Post Post #3126 (isolation #220) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 3125, unwnd wrote:I'll T-T Ank/Maria if BitDunn has one scum and then I'm pretty sure game is won on this fact alone.
i feel ok agreeing with this
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Post Post #3130 (isolation #221) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:50 am

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hey creature if i flip a coin 10 times and get heads every time what are the chances my next flip will be heads
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Post Post #3131 (isolation #222) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:50 am

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In post 3127, Ankamius wrote:Kagami + SXTLHGaiden is almost always TvT
MariaR + me is almost always TvT
unwnd + popsofctown is almost always TvT

Golden Robster + Creature is very likely TvT, pending a check on GR that I'll do later
Firebringer +Shiro is probably TvT (Firebringer is hilariously obvtown and Shiro is still comfortably in his townrange), not really interested in sorting that until I have to

Deasvail + Cephrir <--- DeasVail is likely scum, Cephrir rarely is
Dunnstral + Bitmap <--- Bitmap is likely scum, Dunnstral rarely is
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Post Post #3134 (isolation #223) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:53 am

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that seems like a coincidence
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Post Post #3136 (isolation #224) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:55 am

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what i mean is that the idea that your d1 reads are either great or terrible seems like a coincidence
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Post Post #3139 (isolation #225) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 3137, Creature wrote:
In post 3130, Cephrir wrote:hey creature if i flip a coin 10 times and get heads every time what are the chances my next flip will be heads
50%

but seeing that as a whole, it's unlikely for 11 heads in a row to happen.
great so why couldn't you figure that out when pops asked you about the list of players :P
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Post Post #3140 (isolation #226) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:56 am

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In post 3138, Kagami wrote:Has DV provided any updates to in your pt, Ceph?
no

we haven't really gotten to much, he seems busy
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Post Post #3166 (isolation #227) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:28 am

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no everyone knows bussing doesn't exist

also pls do not use slurs on this wholesome website
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Post Post #3175 (isolation #228) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:37 am

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This escalated quickly.
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Post Post #3297 (isolation #229) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:05 pm

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How about we lynch fireshiro since we all agree on that and then we can argue the merits of this other thing once we know for sure how that turned out
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Post Post #3322 (isolation #230) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:08 pm

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In post 3300, popsofctown wrote:Cephrir do you townread both Dunn and bits?
Dunn yes
Bit probably
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Post Post #3323 (isolation #231) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:09 pm

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In post 3301, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3297, Cephrir wrote:How about we lynch fireshiro since we all agree on that and then we can argue the merits of this other thing once we know for sure how that turned out
Can you explain ur scumread on either me or shiro? I have yet to see one explanation from you.
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Post Post #3324 (isolation #232) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:10 pm

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In post 3305, Firebringer wrote:and for some reason, everytime i try to engage u with how i think u post sometimes in a way that is def how ive seen u play scum, you just go ignore!mode on me.

its like you go out of your way to interact with me, why is that?
I have no idea how to respond to "you are scumposting but I think you're town." What do you want me to do with that?
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Post Post #3326 (isolation #233) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:14 pm

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In post 3319, Firebringer wrote:i thought oka/gamma was a bad wagon too but i soft defended it, i think i should be getting more shit for that and no one seems to care?
I mean I dont have you at hard town but shiro seems more likely scum to me so theres not much reason for me to care about your alignment unless I stop scumreading shiro
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Post Post #3330 (isolation #234) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:19 pm

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In post 3327, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3323, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3301, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3297, Cephrir wrote:How about we lynch fireshiro since we all agree on that and then we can argue the merits of this other thing once we know for sure how that turned out
Can you explain ur scumread on either me or shiro? I have yet to see one explanation from you.
I've said several times that shiro only shows up to defend themselves then ghosts again
you actually haven't. I isoed you and ctrl f "shiro" there is very little mention of shiro.
I may have said it about both of you but it was definitely said
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Post Post #3331 (isolation #235) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:20 pm

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In post 3328, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3324, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3305, Firebringer wrote:and for some reason, everytime i try to engage u with how i think u post sometimes in a way that is def how ive seen u play scum, you just go ignore!mode on me.

its like you go out of your way to interact with me, why is that?
I have no idea how to respond to "you are scumposting but I think you're town." What do you want me to do with that?
question me. respond saying if its false/true. This doesn't seem hard since u never had a read on me it seems.
I dont have any questions - I think your slot needs to die.
I'm town.
I dont think I'm very good at reading you so I didnt want to invest too much effort in it.
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Post Post #3332 (isolation #236) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 3329, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3327, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3323, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3301, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3297, Cephrir wrote:How about we lynch fireshiro since we all agree on that and then we can argue the merits of this other thing once we know for sure how that turned out
Can you explain ur scumread on either me or shiro? I have yet to see one explanation from you.
I've said several times that shiro only shows up to defend themselves then ghosts again
you actually haven't. I isoed you and ctrl f "shiro" there is very little mention of shiro.
also shiro ghosting is normal. shiro isn't a very active player. Shiro plays between a few select few hours in the day, not as prolific as many people here. This means nothing.
It does. They should be using that time to scumhunt.
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Post Post #3340 (isolation #237) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:26 pm

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In post 3333, Firebringer wrote:okay but i still don't understand ur scumread on shiro here. Like you seem way to confident in ur shiro read here to say "I don't need to read u. Because Shiro is scum"....then "Shiro is scum, because shiro is only showing up when pressured".

the confidence level in this is weird.
Also, most of the game is town posting

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Post Post #3342 (isolation #238) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:28 pm

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In post 3336, Firebringer wrote:How do you scumhunt Cephrir?
Some games, primarily by observing over getting into direct interactions

Others, such as this one, I struggle to get into the game and rely more on gut because I feel lost
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Post Post #3343 (isolation #239) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:28 pm

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Starting to remember why I would get irritated with Maria and death tunnel her
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Post Post #3345 (isolation #240) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:31 pm

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Look I'm getting lynched this game I understand that you dont need to badger me about it or convince me that I'm scum

Pedit: I'm not sure I do. I play better when I'm having fun, and usually if I get attacked a lot at the start of a game it kinda sets me on a not having fun track
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Post Post #3347 (isolation #241) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:35 pm

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No, I guess I dont think it's unfair

Sorry

I think I should just go to sleep, I'm just shutting up the thread really
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #242) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:06 am

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please make up your minds.
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Post Post #3532 (isolation #243) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 am

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if kagaiden survive, still never lynch them, if you wifom this i will haunt you forever
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Post Post #3534 (isolation #244) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 am

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i may have sucked this game but i'm still insulted about being lynched over the complete trash shiro slot.
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Post Post #3535 (isolation #245) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:40 am

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please make sure you have really good reasons to let unwnd into endgame because i don't really understand why everyone TRs them
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Post Post #3537 (isolation #246) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:41 am

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i wish alisae had lived so i could've felt like i had more than one ally in the game. i apparently don't respond well to feeling alone
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Post Post #3539 (isolation #247) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:41 am

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In post 3536, popsofctown wrote:Cephrir tbh it's that DV has not played as well as Firebringer not that you have not played as well as Shiro if I had to show you my excel spreadsheet
i'm insulted on DV's behalf too then because fire is not exactly playing the game of the year
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Post Post #3542 (isolation #248) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:42 am

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i'd rather see dunn-bit go to endgame rn than unwnd or the GR pair.

i don't know why i'm shouting this into the void.
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Post Post #3546 (isolation #249) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 am

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i think a "deepwolf" as the kids call them nowadays is pretty likely and most of you are underestimating the probability of that
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Post Post #3548 (isolation #250) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 am

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In post 3544, Kagami wrote:I don't have much to say that hasn't already been said!
really? i thought you were deliberately playing close to the chest.
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Post Post #3555 (isolation #251) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:47 am

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In post 3550, popsofctown wrote:Can you teach me to scumread unwnd so I can leave and go chill with Alisae and watch a Bitmap challenge the Man all endgame
i'm not really scumreading him -- i just don't get what he's done to be so above reproach
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Post Post #3560 (isolation #252) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:48 am

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i'm tempted to take it away from you
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Post Post #3563 (isolation #253) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:49 am

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this is, like, the only setup where you can selfhammer without getting yelled at.

it looks so tasty.

pedit: aww.
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Post Post #3566 (isolation #254) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:50 am

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Post Post #3571 (isolation #255) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:51 am

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i've been reasonably obvtown for about 40 pages and if you didn't figure that out i can't help you
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Post Post #3605 (isolation #256) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:00 am

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pls dont pollute my beautiful death with this weeb shit
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Post Post #3611 (isolation #257) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:02 am

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its ok im only a half breed weeb
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Post Post #3693 (isolation #258) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:33 am

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ive been playing for like 2 months and i switched to scholar after shb dumpstered my astro :(
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Post Post #3706 (isolation #259) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:42 am

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whats that AST? you're fun to play and have an interesting unique mechanic? well fuck you then, now ur minigame is playing connect three to get an ability like what you used to be able to do every ~1 minute but with half the duration on a cooldown of 800 years
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Post Post #3711 (isolation #260) » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:46 am

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it is not a tactics game, but at least they have awesome lion boys
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Post Post #4719 (isolation #261) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:45 am

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WP popsicle
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Post Post #4770 (isolation #262) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:03 pm

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It feels like people who know the secret have outside info that affects the game

And also are in an exclusive cool kids club
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Post Post #4831 (isolation #263) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:44 pm

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In post 4808, Alisae wrote:Vi is cool
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Post Post #4912 (isolation #264) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:57 pm

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In post 4833, Alisae wrote:Cephir is also cool and I want to play more mafia games with Cephir
I feel loved.
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