Pokémon Fusion U-Pick [Game Over]

[book kid]

hii

[book kid]

let's lynch fl

VOTE: flavour leaf

[book kid]

hii

let's lynch fl

VOTE: flavour leaf

Are you the reincarnation of America?

no I spelt flavour leaf with an u so that's impossible sorry

[book kid]

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

So much for not altslipping lol.

[book kid]

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

There are two assumptions you have to make here. Let's explore both.

Assumption 1) Flavor Leaf is Town
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf tries desperately to plead with Chemist to stop crumbing
- Chemist ignores him
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf, under no pressure, claims that it is dangerous to discuss typing to get Chemist to stop. This serves a double purpose of warning other players from doing the same. Possibly because Flavor Leaf is worried there is a commonality between the players with the [hated] modifier.

Flavor Leaf is acting protective of Chemist and the game state by asking others not to claim seemingly innocuous details (typing) because through his role, he knows those details are

not

innocuous.

Assumption 2) Flavor Leaf is Scum
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf says nothing
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf now benefits from knowing Chemist's typing to better use his role

Flavor Leaf, if scum with a role that benefits from knowing Pokemone types, has much more to benefit by staying quiet and letting Chemist dig his own grave. He also benefits if other towns people see this and think it is safe to discuss these details.

Do you see now why Flavor Leaf openly giving that warning is so town? He gains so much more from remaining quiet and just letting the pieces fall into place.

Sure, I do admit that Flavor Leaf can be going for a big scum play, but it is much more likely this came from town and not scum.

Or FL is scum and claims that in order to gain townreads

anyway. even if you think this is a flaw in his argument, what does this mean for oversoul's alignment? do you not think town could still push this point of view?

[book kid]

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

There are two assumptions you have to make here. Let's explore both.

Assumption 1) Flavor Leaf is Town
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf tries desperately to plead with Chemist to stop crumbing
- Chemist ignores him
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf, under no pressure, claims that it is dangerous to discuss typing to get Chemist to stop. This serves a double purpose of warning other players from doing the same. Possibly because Flavor Leaf is worried there is a commonality between the players with the [hated] modifier.

Flavor Leaf is acting protective of Chemist and the game state by asking others not to claim seemingly innocuous details (typing) because through his role, he knows those details are

not

innocuous.

Assumption 2) Flavor Leaf is Scum
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf says nothing
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf now benefits from knowing Chemist's typing to better use his role

Flavor Leaf, if scum with a role that benefits from knowing Pokemone types, has much more to benefit by staying quiet and letting Chemist dig his own grave. He also benefits if other towns people see this and think it is safe to discuss these details.

Do you see now why Flavor Leaf openly giving that warning is so town? He gains so much more from remaining quiet and just letting the pieces fall into place.

Sure, I do admit that Flavor Leaf can be going for a big scum play, but it is much more likely this came from town and not scum.

Or FL is scum and claims that in order to gain townreads

anyway. even if you think this is a flaw in his argument, what does this mean for oversoul's alignment? do you not think town could still push this point of view?

Idk I wanted to push Oversoul

why

[book kid]

They seemed a bit scummy

Ok so you thought they were a bit scummy because they townread FL for something you didn't think it was worth townreading him for. He's laid out his thought process now. What do you think of it? Do you still think it is unlikely Oversoul could think that way?

[book kid]

#166 gave me unnecessary defensive vibes, #164 goes into s similar direction responding to a post that throws him in a scum pool which were the first things he reacted to, Oversoul aside

1) the post didn't make sense cuz I didn't post until that moment
2) I am not hated?

are you just gonna ignore me RF

[book kid]

lol ok

chemist/oversoul/rce/alch are tentatively townreads i guess, i feel like rf is overtly playing towards a scum wincon and while part of me wants to townread that most of me doesn't. i'm not opposed to deb wagon ig? mostly just been shitposting so far.

[book kid]

is it the "there's one scum in this group" thing? it seems exactly like the sort of random, unfounded assertion that's in vogue with everyone these days, not a towntell.

Trying to discredit a Towntell without even knowing if that’s what Oversoul was talking about. You’re definitely scum.

idk do you think it's uncommon for town to discredit townreads on their scumreads

[book kid]

yeah deb wagon is really playstyley. if we're going to policy lynch someone we could just use one of the probably many vigs we have in this game

[book kid]

where's Avengers? that hydra is sort of underwhelming me so far.

if deb is town there's probably scum in {skellen, mastina} ig

[book kid]

Red can be Town.

Alch why was this?

[book kid]

where's Avengers? that hydra is sort of underwhelming me so far.

if deb is town there's probably scum in {skellen, mastina} ig

Hmm why couldn't either be town wrong on town?

either could be town wrong on town; i'm not saying skellen/mastina is def a thing i'm saying that if deb is town there's probably at least one in there.

if you're asking why i believe that and i'm just misunderstanding; i think the deb wagon being primarily stationed on playstyle makes it a pretty great vote for scum at this point in the game if he's town; i also think that love and friendship/oversoul/RCEnigma are all town. this leads me to suspect that t!DEB means s!mastina or s!skellen.

[book kid]

Deb is that old man in video games that only speaks in riddles

Everything makes sense regarding DEB when you consider him some fusion of a Teenage Girl, a 60 year old combination party/grumpy granny, and a Jewish Princess.

this makes less sense than before!

[book kid]

She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Take it up with my teachers dude, I have so much work that I don't have time for MS right now except on the bus. If you look the inactivity has been sitewide. And if you except yesterday that's like 15 posts in 1-2 days which isn't at all lurking.

[book kid]

@RCE:
Can you explain your townread on book kid? (#312)

I feel she is lacking some drive. While I really like her attempt with further engaging with Red in #193, it confuses me how she just literally went "lol ok" after Red simply said he has no interest to respond to her and leaved it at that. Also I feel a bit iffy about her being ok with a DEB wagon but on the same time sets up pre-flip associations with assuming town!DEB while she doesn't seem to townread him to begin with(?).

What am I supposed to do honestly? I could get upset and kind of almost did but whenever I get too emotionally invested in mafia it ends poorly. If he wants me to park him at the bottom of my readslist, fine by me.

I don't really see a problem with saying what a town!Deb world is like? I don't townread him but I also don't scumread him and the random chance of a player rolling scum is quite low meaning that is the most likely world to me.

[book kid]

Spoiler:

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

odd misinterpretation that feels like shade

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

CHAINSAW.

The likelihood there is 1 scum in avengers/pb/flippy/RF is a pretty good reason in rvs.

What i didn't even post

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS VIBE

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

odd tone and vote timing

I am known for not reading

feels like an excuse

Yeah true, just saying being protown doesn't make you town immediately...

DOUBTCASTING, LIKELY SPEWS FL TOWN IF RED WOLF

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

My posts always feel empty because they are.
Not geniune? I don't think so

frozen-ish response

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

THAT POST WAS HIS 17TH. MAKES ME FEEL LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM CASING HIM.

THIS

one

It makes sense but I don't feel like voting RF rn

ok but why not

[book kid]

She’s being lurky, which is consistent with her scumgame from what I’ve read of her meta.

Take it up with my teachers dude, I have so much work that I don't have time for MS right now except on the bus. If you look the inactivity has been sitewide. And if you except yesterday that's like 15 posts in 1-2 days which isn't at all lurking.

Jfc are you still in school? How have holidays not started yet?!?!

Softs my read a bit which was already quite weak, I’ll wait til you break up to think about it properly

here in England we break up mid-July.

[book kid]

Spoiler:

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

odd misinterpretation that feels like shade

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

CHAINSAW.

The likelihood there is 1 scum in avengers/pb/flippy/RF is a pretty good reason in rvs.

What i didn't even post

CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS VIBE

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

odd tone and vote timing

I am known for not reading

feels like an excuse

Yeah true, just saying being protown doesn't make you town immediately...

DOUBTCASTING, LIKELY SPEWS FL TOWN IF RED WOLF

VOTE: Redflavour

his posts feel empty and not genuine.

My posts always feel empty because they are.
Not geniune? I don't think so

frozen-ish response

VOTE: redflavor

can case later.

What? I have like 5 posts, what are you gonna case?

THAT POST WAS HIS 17TH. MAKES ME FEEL LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO STOP ME FROM CASING HIM.

THIS

one

It makes sense but I don't feel like voting RF rn

ok but why not

Feel like my vote is better used elsewhere

i have a hard time seeing this. the deb wagon is stally and stale at this point because, as you put it, it's a policy lynch and nobody likes those, especially in a vig game. what is your vote helping that's more important on wagoning a fairly active player for more game-related reasons?

pedit:

[book kid]

Spoiler: redflavor case 2: electric boogaloo

Hot take: There’s exactly one scum in the hated group.

How would you know

this is empty posting that's meant to look like scumhunting but is in reality meaningless.

Y’all in a neighborhood then?

Is anyone really town reading this slot, or ..

Why do you think that post is scummy?
FoS Oversoul

ditto; while the question is certainly reasonable, there isn't a reason to FoS Oversoul from what he's said.

VOTE: Oversoul
What makes it townie lol

There are two assumptions you have to make here. Let's explore both.

Assumption 1) Flavor Leaf is Town
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf tries desperately to plead with Chemist to stop crumbing
- Chemist ignores him
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf, under no pressure, claims that it is dangerous to discuss typing to get Chemist to stop. This serves a double purpose of warning other players from doing the same. Possibly because Flavor Leaf is worried there is a commonality between the players with the [hated] modifier.

Flavor Leaf is acting protective of Chemist and the game state by asking others not to claim seemingly innocuous details (typing) because through his role, he knows those details are

not

innocuous.

Assumption 2) Flavor Leaf is Scum
- Flavor Leaf sees Chemist heavily crumbing his

abomination's

Pokémon's typing.
- Flavor Leaf knows from his own role that typing is important
- Flavor Leaf says nothing
- Flavor Leaf believes he has discovered Chemist's typing
- Flavor Leaf now benefits from knowing Chemist's typing to better use his role

Flavor Leaf, if scum with a role that benefits from knowing Pokemone types, has much more to benefit by staying quiet and letting Chemist dig his own grave. He also benefits if other towns people see this and think it is safe to discuss these details.

Do you see now why Flavor Leaf openly giving that warning is so town? He gains so much more from remaining quiet and just letting the pieces fall into place.

Sure, I do admit that Flavor Leaf can be going for a big scum play, but it is much more likely this came from town and not scum.

Or FL is scum and claims that in order to gain townreads

anyway. even if you think this is a flaw in his argument, what does this mean for oversoul's alignment? do you not think town could still push this point of view?

Idk I wanted to push Oversoul

They seemed a bit scummy

this is absolutely meaningless. i'm asking him of what he thinks of oversoul's post, and he just says that he wants to push oversoul, because he's scummy. there is literally no reason to not just, you know, answer the question as town. while it's certainly a questionable play from scum too, i think it's a bit more understandable; he genuinely just wants to push oversoul and doesn't really want to think too deeply about his push, so he just dodges the questions thinking it probably won't be pursued.

#166 gave me unnecessary defensive vibes, #164 goes into s similar direction responding to a post that throws him in a scum pool which were the first things he reacted to, Oversoul aside

1) the post didn't make sense cuz I didn't post until that moment
2) I am not hated?

are you just gonna ignore me RF

Yes e-book adult

i think this removes pretty much all the goodwill he deserves; he has a chance to resolve anything i'm discussing and chooses not to. for those voting deb, you can get your policy lynch here too.

some may same from this that RF is just lynchbait. counterpoint: only town are voting him.

[book kid]

t's already a part of my meta that if I'm VT I announce it. Not much I can really do about that now.

you could just, like, stop doing it

[book kid]

t's already a part of my meta that if I'm VT I announce it. Not much I can really do about that now.

you could just, like, stop doing it

The game that solidified it was too recent. So until it's in the rearview I'm kind of stuck with the stygma.

i don't understand what part of this problem isn't resolved by putting "i no longer claim when i'm vt" in your sig or at the start of your next few games?

[book kid]

VOTE: skellen
Following PB
If RF is close to lynch later in the day I'll vote there, but pressure voting there seems ineffectual imo

why would it be ineffectual?

[book kid]

yeah deb wagon is really playstyley. if we're going to policy lynch someone we could just use one of the probably many vigs we have in this game

Lynchbait can still draw scum tho.

how does this change anything that i said

[book kid]

VOTE: fl

His whole 'wow please push me!!! act is a show and not at all how town FL would behave.

[book kid]

<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

Town FL also tries a lot harder to read Maria here.

[book kid]

I often wait until something pulls me in.

You should know this by now

Idk dude I think waiting for something to make you more involved is preeeeety different from coming into the thread all, 'wow I sure wish people scumread me haha'

[book kid]

I have on record stated my zero lack of caring for early game...wanna know why...

Because I’m a late game town hyper carry.

Sound familiar? Bet it does.

This is a complete misrep coming from you.

Ok but

a) this is irrelevant because it doesn't cover how fake your whole plea is

b) you do care as town earlygame just less

[book kid]

You also stated that the “wow push me” is a show, but that’s literally how I play mafia.

I always am putting on a show; I’m a performer. That equates to here as well, so that is yet another misrep.

I don't believe that whatever value you assign to putting on a show comes before wincon. Trying to fakely manipulate people into townreading you, instead of playing directly towards town wincon, is a pretty objectively scummy move.

[book kid]

You wanna know the funniest part about this?

I’m the second highest poster in this game, and you act like I haven’t been here, and that is very much by design.

Give me like 10 minutes and I officially become the highest poster in this game.

You’ve been baited.

VOTE: Book kid

Look at how RCE and Gamma acted about me coming in and getting reads.

They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

And that’s only on the surface. I’ve been here, and that’s backed up with my post count.

Ok but I didn't act like you haven't been here. You introduced that element yourself, talking about how you care less earlygame, and I said it was irrelevant, and now you're saying that's my case on you. Lol. Blatant misrep.

You just played a scum game with me. You should know better than anyone that I wouldn't go for a FL mislynch d1 as scum.

[book kid]

I often wait until something pulls me in.

You should know this by now

Idk dude I think waiting for something to make you more involved is preeeeety different from coming into the thread all, 'wow I sure wish people scumread me haha'

What do you mean?

I’m a reaction test player, and I stated that very blatantly.

And you did exactly what I tried to get someone to do without even realizing you were doing exactly as I said.

You’ve been Third Degree Boon’d.

That's my point, you didn't wait for someone to get you into the game, you went and got reads actively via this, but in a scummy way. What you're saying isn't applying at all.

Lol you got me Boon. I fell perfectly into your trap.

[book kid]

You also stated that the “wow push me” is a show, but that’s literally how I play mafia.

I always am putting on a show; I’m a performer. That equates to here as well, so that is yet another misrep.

I don't believe that whatever value you assign to putting on a show comes before wincon. Trying to fakely manipulate people into townreading you, instead of playing directly towards town wincon, is a pretty objectively scummy move.

So? You don’t think I manipulate people when I’m town?

One of my strengths as scum is coming off as townie, at least earlier on, so i don’t get this comment either. You’re just throwing stuff out there like they apply at all when they don’t.

Town manipulation and scum manipulation are different.

It's not literally impossible to catch a good scum early, everyone slips up sometimes.

[book kid]

You wanna know the funniest part about this?

I’m the second highest poster in this game, and you act like I haven’t been here, and that is very much by design.

Give me like 10 minutes and I officially become the highest poster in this game.

You’ve been baited.

VOTE: Book kid

Look at how RCE and Gamma acted about me coming in and getting reads.

They are actually looking for analysis from me. You look like you’re setting up a case to push on me due to my lack of doing anything.

And that’s only on the surface. I’ve been here, and that’s backed up with my post count.

Ok but I didn't act like you haven't been here. You introduced that element yourself, talking about how you care less earlygame, and I said it was irrelevant, and now you're saying that's my case on you. Lol. Blatant misrep.

You just played a scum game with me. You should know better than anyone that I wouldn't go for a FL mislynch d1 as scum.

I don’t think you’re going for a FL mislynch, you’re going for a FL push, there’s a difference.

And I’m not surface level enough to think you are lock scum here or anything, but your push is inaccurate and you’re misrepping and twisting things around to fit your push.

Likely because you thought I wouldn’t be here to back it up, but that was precisely what I was looking for.

You fell directly into the trap.

Not really much of a difference imo.

You're basically always onsite dude.

[book kid]

I often wait until something pulls me in.

You should know this by now

Idk dude I think waiting for something to make you more involved is preeeeety different from coming into the thread all, 'wow I sure wish people scumread me haha'

What do you mean?

I’m a reaction test player, and I stated that very blatantly.

And you did exactly what I tried to get someone to do without even realizing you were doing exactly as I said.

You’ve been Third Degree Boon’d.

That's my point, you didn't wait for someone to get you into the game, you went and got reads actively via this, but in a scummy way. What you're saying isn't applying at all.

Lol you got me Boon. I fell perfectly into your trap.

What’re you talking about?

It’s lterally happening right now.

This is another misrep.

What are YOU talking about?

[book kid]

I just played a scum game with you, and this is exactly what you did in that scum game, so idk wha you’re talking about with that.

Albeit, I was scum with you, but nonetheless, alignments aside, you started pushing at me there as well and not going along with my path

Exactly. We were scumbuddies and everything was planned to some extent using Discord, that's an entirely different beast to pushing Town FL as scum.

[book kid]

VOTE: fl

His whole 'wow please push me!!! act is a show and not at all how town FL would behave.

<<<333

What do you think about the maria catch up FL?

It’s Maria. Could come from either alignment. I’m not really interested in trying to hard read her this early. Need more info.

Town FL also tries a lot harder to read Maria here.

This was you case?

Explain because that just feels like grasping at straws because you need to make a strong push somewhere.

And i really don’t care to solve Maria ever, so i don’t understand that comment.

I have rarely ever actively attempted to accurately read Maria. Especially early game.

And if I have, i likely tunneled her. So that’s another counter meta read.

Never said it was a strong push. And you're right that I needed a push, RF replaced out and Maria couldn't like respond to the case, and I saw your 'please push me' and went with you.

It just feels incredibly fake , when you're a strong town player who is more than capable of making reads for himself, and there's the whole subconscious bias that scum should want to be townread. And it feels more like manipulating for trs than manipulating to solve.

[book kid]

For like the fifth time: FL yes you're here. I have stated soo many times that's not part of my case yet you keep going on about it. Why?

[book kid]

I NEVER take you on this way as scum, and you should know that by this point.

Idk dude spamming with a slice of misreps is kinda your response to a push as either alignment. The response is slightly towny because I expect the misreps to be a bit heavier if you're scum but it's not by that much.

[book kid]

I don’t get your “make reads for yourself”

I am making reads for myself. This right here is the definition of me making reads for myself, both with the real time interaction, and the change in game state.

You're scumreading me for pushing you right now. I don't see how that's relevant to you making that Gambit instead of isoing people from the start.

No, you don't need to be totally not present to play off the idea you have no reads as scum. As town, maybe.

[book kid]

I don’t really get book kid’s push on FL but I do think he believes everything he said.

What makes you think my push was genuine?

(also i'm a she)

I don’t really get book kid’s push on FL but I do think he believes everything he said.

GOOD

take

what makes it a good take?

I didn't like that push from book kid either because I feel like she didn't believe anything she said and was just doing it because FL asked. Which is like what??

Ok I especially would like elaboration on this take. Why do you think I didn't believe what I said and why do you think I'm just doing it because FL asked rather than me just being scum?

[book kid]

gemerald looks really towny

menalque ur read is bad

[book kid]

He doesn't give a single good reason for any of his votes, I don't think I disagree with that many of his reads (which doesn't matter at all), but I don't agree with almost any of the reasons. For example 407 is a read I slightly agree with (not nearly as much as some people here but once SS starts actually doing things I expect to have a better read than most of town); however, that really isn't the post that does anything. It clearly is anger/frustration from another game, which isn't necessarily bad but it certainly isn't alignment indicative.

I get that you don't agree with most of what Gamma says but is there a reason you expect to be mindmelding with t!gamma?

[book kid]

gemerald looks really towny

menalque ur read is bad

I mean u think my gemerald read is good

yeah but like RCE and SS who are like the players who actually know how to read me are townreading me and i think you should listen to them

[book kid]

VOTE: Oversoul
This doesn't leave until they explain their wonky ass progression

I thought more about your play and felt like it’s still likely you’re scum. Nice to know you’re really scumhunting though!

It really looks like

you

aren't though

Nah I’m P sure I found 3 scums, you’re one of them. Avoided the question though. Other than me, who are you scumreading?

Okay fuck you, you asked NO QUESTIONS in that post!!!!!!!!!
I am scumreading Rcenigma right now btw, thanks for NOT asking

rce and oversoul are both hated; i think it's very unlikely for them to be s/s mechanically speaking

[book kid]

rce and oversoul are both hated; i think it's very unlikely for them to be s/s mechanically speaking

I would bet that Skygazer said before the picks came in "anyone who picks a pokemon that satisfied condition X will be hated regardless of alignment," or at least did something similar to this. I could see double hated scum.

mhm I suppose but wrt/ balance considerations I think a setup with two hated scum would be very hard to balance and if that situation came up adjustments would be made.

[book kid]

He doesn't give a single good reason for any of his votes, I don't think I disagree with that many of his reads (which doesn't matter at all), but I don't agree with almost any of the reasons. For example 407 is a read I slightly agree with (not nearly as much as some people here but once SS starts actually doing things I expect to have a better read than most of town); however, that really isn't the post that does anything. It clearly is anger/frustration from another game, which isn't necessarily bad but it certainly isn't alignment indicative.

I get that you don't agree with most of what Gamma says but is there a reason you expect to be mindmelding with t!gamma?

I feel like this just isn't what I said, I agree with his reads, but his reasons don't feel real. For the record I try really hard to not townread people based on whether they agree with me, which is why I'm trying to not just townclear oversoul because I'm pretty sure we have if not the exact same readlist an exceptionally similar one.

Pages and pages of Mastina and Avengers posts makes Debbie a dull boy.

Vote Gamma with me!

MariaR, why is Gamma town?

I feel like I am mostly confused by Gamma completely ignoring his burgeoning wagon.

Pink Ball, why is Gamma town

Gamma can be town.

VOTE: love and friendship

VOTE: Gamma

Like I see legitimately NOTHING demonstrating actual thought. There is NOTHING between these posts where you acknowledge anything I or anyone else says beyond the one tome you ask itlepip about his vote on me. It's shitty as both alignments but makes more sense overall if you're scum.

This feels very selective and not very indicative. Like if you have meta that says that oversoul is a tryhard town or something sure, but is an example of pushing something that I don't think an experienced player would push as town. Like if you pushed for reasons I would be super on board but it feels more like an excuse to scumread than an attempt to sort someone,

btw Oversoul I do agree that giving a bit more would be helpful.

gemerald looks really towny

menalque ur read is bad

I mean u think my gemerald read is good

yeah but like RCE and SS who are like the players who actually know how to read me are townreading me and i think you should listen to them

Honestly the fact that half the town cleared you when they knew who you were is probably the main reason I am pushing GE first. That said I believe that for a towny, trusting your own reads even if they are bad (ie random) is better than sheeping town consensus because scum affect that consensus but not your own reads (unless the better read is either from very good logic or from someone very towny). So

can you elaborate on gamma's reads not being real, or is it just the oversoul example?

[book kid]

@book kid & Chemist:
How were your reads on the Maria slot affected by her posts so far?

literally not at all. I probably should look closer at her though.

[book kid]

idk maria's posting just seems null to me

the 'pink ball is obvious scum' is kind of weird when he's obviously not because he is mostly townread and there doesn't seem to be much effort to convince people or anything.

[book kid]

MariaR
Avengers
Skellen
Dr Easy Bake
Chemist1422
Emperor flippyNips
itlepip

This are the seven players who aren't in my townbloc. From them, Chemist is probably town and DEB is a mistery. If I had to take one more of the five remaining, it would be Avengers. So Skellen, Maria, Flippernipples and itlepip.

i really like this as a lynchpool except i don't think i'd lynch chemist or deb rn and probably not skellen. i think {maria, avengers, flippy, itle} would all be p fantastic wagons right now.

i was starting to suspect oversoul but i think that replacement post is like just town

[book kid]

oh i'm still voting fl from that thing lol

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maria

[book kid]

i got prodded i am bad

[book kid]

Mmk so I'm getting some of the apathy now. So let's play a game. Everyone gets 2 guesses at what Pokemon I chose. Anyone guesses correct I'll reveal that half's ability.

I call it, who's that Pokemon?

This feels like it's aimed at distracting the thread from actual gameplay. RCE, I get that you may have been bored, but this psuedo-game-related distraction feels scummy to me.

That said, Medicham for sure was a pick of yours imo

- 'Murica, Hellz Yes!

is this something people actually do

like there was no discussion at the time and i don't think a few posts related to rce's pokemon would actually distract anyone from anything

[book kid]

Whatever, that doesn't change things really.

VOTE: RCEnigma

I'm guessing anything "hated" was a Team Rocket pokemon, so Arbok or Koffing are my Gen 1 guesses for the sot.
It also leans towards scum even more so yeah.

I'll read more later I suppose.

- 'Murica, Hellz Yes!

ok I think this is scum does anyone else think this is scum?

[book kid]

i think the team rocket hated speculation was scummy - specifically the line 'it also leans towards scum even more.' i think it's really really forced to scumread someone for having a hated modifier and they looked at the latest vc and therefore should have known several people were hated and therefore that was extremely unlikely.

what do you think?

[book kid]

i also think that hydra would like... probably be more motivated and powertowny as town rather than one head coming in every one or two days and posting a bit and then leaving? but that's speculation ig

pedit: i think rce is

town

is there anything on him because he's felt pretty much exactly like town!him and it feels like his name keeps coming up for some reason??

[book kid]

i think the team rocket hated speculation was scummy - specifically the line 'it also leans towards scum even more.' i think it's really really forced to scumread someone for having a hated modifier and they looked at the latest vc and therefore should have known several people were hated and therefore that was extremely unlikely.

what do you think?

I think it was weak speculation but I don't see how it's scummy, the Cap head has obviously not been paying as much attention as the others.

i don't see how paying attention is really relevant here; i think the cap head's identity is fairly obvious and that they have enough mafia knowledge to know hated =/= scummy, and they explicitly mentioned looking at the VC; you don't really need to pay any more attention than that for my read to make sense.

[book kid]

Also since the hydra has 5 heads I don't really have any solid expectations for everyone (especially since besides BW and Cap I dont have too strong of a bead on any identities) but imo BW has been pretty proactive and I think that's towny for them

they haven't posted in like eight days?? i wouldn't really call that proactive?

also like effort is nai

pedit: i don't really want to out that tbh and i also don't think it's necessary because i think that it's extremely likely that someone without mafia knowledge would get into the avengers hydra?

[book kid]

Also since the hydra has 5 heads I don't really have any solid expectations for everyone (especially since besides BW and Cap I dont have too strong of a bead on any identities) but imo BW has been pretty proactive and I think that's towny for them

they haven't posted in like eight days?? i wouldn't really call that proactive?

also like effort is nai

pedit: i don't really want to out that tbh and i also don't think it's necessary because i think that it's extremely unlikely that someone without mafia knowledge would get into the avengers hydra?

zz i suck at typing!

[book kid]

When did Kat join the game?

I hate this question

Por qué?

It reads as a bit bitter that Kat is in the game

i uh really don't think this is it

but @alch why did you say that?

[book kid]

Yo book why have you been so lurky still despite school having finished like a week ago or something?

it finished yesterday??

i mean i guess i could have posted more in that time period but like this game isn't really fun to me and i ended up spending more time on things i found more fun, sorry

[book kid]

Why are you in school during July

i think my parents would have to pay a fine if i wasn't

[book kid]

VOTE: flippy

[book kid]

but not book kid's

sorry ausuka

I am going to solarbeam you for this. You're dead by d3.

[book kid]

VOTE: DEB

x.x

[book kid]

P sure we’re at L-2

Isn't it L-1? itlepip moved off and then back on and no one else moved except ausuka who wasn't on before

-IM

I am ausuka ftr, I just altslipped. I was on and now am not.

VOTE: flippy I just want a lynch ok

[book kid]

i like it

VOTE: avengers

[book kid]

VOTE: flippy

whatever i don't think avengers is going to go through

@poeple who are townreading them: why?

[book kid]

Avengers is probably Nero/Nancy + friends.

I really don't think Nero is in Avengers?

[book kid]

If Krazy is in the Hydra it's definitely scum.

I thought Krazy was probably iron Man for what that's worth?

[book kid]

anyway VOTE: avengers i still think this is a good wagon

i'm semi vla for the next two weeks and only on mobile btw.

[book kid]

hi I am here to post in this mafia game

[book kid]

anyway VOTE: avengers i still think this is a good wagon

i'm semi vla for the next two weeks and only on mobile btw.

Is it too much to ask that someone unvote us and you WOATS don’t rush this?

aren't you at like four votes lol

also as the worst player of all time I think I'm supposed to support quicklynches right?

[book kid]

Ausuka, who just wants to place a vote so she can go V/LA

it's interesting that you care so much about sorting who's scum on your wagon that you didn't bother to quickly skim through my ISO to find the reason I was voting you!

[book kid]

I don't object to the read on PB but the certainty. Ausuka though I don't feel like is anywhere close

rude

[book kid]

Menal what exactly was so towny about skitter's posting?

[book kid]

. Flip feeding into one of Boon's shitpushes when he's under pressure feels like scum flailing.

idk if Iron man is still around but I'd like him to elaborate on this.

[book kid]

Nope

L