The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

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If I replaced into a *scum* slot in LyLo I'd have played pretty differently?

How would you have played differently?

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lol

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you thought you were quick-hammered from l-3?

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Sorry.

Oh I thought I was being quickhammered.

Auro, you know damn well this is a great reason to scumread you

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Hmm, let me think real hard about any scenarios where Auro might have had a fake reaction to the number of votes near the end of a game as scum... boy this sure is tricky, I don't think you've EVER misrepped the number of votes on any wagon ever as scum ...

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have you read his posts from today?

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So he's just gonna vote whoever has a vote on them basically

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Let's free Toog from the shackles of this shitty game

VOTE: Toog

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Feel pretty bad actually toog, I would almost never go for survivor here but with no town investigative and a super scummy town...

*hug*

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Would you have sprayed water all around with your trunk?

-Pikrazy

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YOU ARE NOW IN THE DUNGEON OF MEME 3P GAME

Your party consists of a RELLEPHANT and a SKITTLE

To your left you see a TOOGLE GOO

to your right you see an INDIAN CALVIN

Where would you like to place your vote? you have [9 days] to decide !~~~!

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Why'd you take your vig shot mastina?

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Interesting

But didn't you visit voted on 2 separate nights? I still kinda don't get that

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mastina

it's just 1130 + rhinox + toog lol

~ Pichu

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I'm very afraid of scum voting me skitter

~ Pichu

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we hit the idea that he's just the scum traitor, mastina

~ Pichu

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nothing that you've done today was town skitter

~ Pichu

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nothing that you've done today was town skitter

~ Pichu

i *very* strongly feel the exact same about you so

to everybody else

this exact mindset is the biggest reason I'm scumlocking this slot

skitter has been very flat all day

~ Pichu

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and then irrelephant comes in, starts pushing the thread into mechanics and all about lynching toog because survivor

and then out of nowhere he says "ok we're lynching toog but I want to start hunting JUST IN CASE"

like

WHAT?????

~ Pichu

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mastina shooting wh4t makes complete sense

trust me, I checked

the trajectory makes sense

~ Pichu

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and if you're arguing that the trajectory doesn't make sense, then you're arguing that mastina isn't scum

so

lol

~ Pichu

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pisskop where are your reads at

~ Pichu

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ok

so why can't we have done that instead of spending 5-10 pages talking about lynching toog instead of scumhunting like I was telling him to

~ Pichu

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nothing that you've done today was town skitter

~ Pichu

i *very* strongly feel the exact same about you so

to everybody else

this exact mindset is the biggest reason I'm scumlocking this slot

skitter has been very flat all day

~ Pichu

i have no idea what 'very flat' means, nor do i know what mindset you're referring to here, nor do i know why you think it's scummy

yes

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the 3p mechanic was the 3 players that left

~ Pichu

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I think I need to look at skitter's posts throughout the game

~ Pichu

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I'm getting no real toneread from them

idk how to take that

~ Pichu

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actually

I remember in that one micro we played that I could just TELL that the gears were turning in her head when my read on her went from lockscum to locktown on a dime

I distantly remember that happening at a few points in anuket too

I don't remember seeing that once this game, which is very bizarre considering she's been under pressure almost all game

~ Pichu

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I'm getting no real toneread from them

idk how to take that

~ Pichu

then you're reading me wrong, so try again

I'm just curious about one thing

why is this your response to me when you're sure I'm scum?

~ Pichu

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interesting perspective

~ Pichu

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very very interesting perspective

~ Pichu

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I don't think your overall mindset today ever comes from town

~ Pichu

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because the entire way you've been approaching me today has been from an informed defensive perspective.

~ Pichu

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you tell me, why are you approaching me today from an informed defensive perspective?

~ Pichu

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Spoiler: Hey skitter

I just wanted to let you know that ur scum

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you tell me, why are you approaching me today from an informed defensive perspective?

~ Pichu

idk what 'informed defensive perspective' means

it means that ur scum

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2940 and 2942 are alisae

~ Pichu

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hey skitter
its ali

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hey skitter

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hi ali

ok, why do you think i'm scum ?

because you are??????????

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im a simple furret
i see u
i see scum

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but
do you want a real reason why ur scum

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but
do you want a real reason why ur scum

go for it

because you're not trying to hide the fact that you're scum.
You're really not.
Me, as a player who has not read any of early game
could read the last 2 days
with no reads
and go
"wow, skitter is scum"
and like
idunno how to explain to you without calling you scum over and over again
because you're not trying to hide it
and it shows in your play

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ok skitter
y r u town

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what does that even mean

~ Pichu

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what is the drawback of leaving toog for last???

~ Pichu

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UNVOTE: Toogeloo

~ Pichu

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what is the drawback of leaving toog for last???

Why not? One simple reason, the NK leaves a slightly smaller pool

I see this more as fear of losing rather than trying to win

~ Pichu

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I hope you understand that the odds that at least one scum is very good at planning out endgames exists in this game is on the high side

right

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I find it really stupid that we're treating a likely 4v2v1 situation as "WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE SURVIVOR BECAUSE THEY MIGHT SCUMSIDE!!!!!!!!" as irrel helpfully called it

the justification is that toog is never town, but it's just as true that toog is not always scum

if toog is scum traitor, then there's no real reason to kill him first because we can just try to hunt down both scum and treat it like a straight lylo anyways
if toog is survivor, then scum can't really blackmail him because nightkilling him is just straight up BAD for them, so toog has no reason not to go with the majority lynch, which is town controlled
if toog is groupscum, then he just gets lynched in 3p

either way we're literally losing a town voice to get rid of a likely survivor that is forced to townside or a traitor that doesn't actually benefit town to kill first

and considering that the majority of players still alive are competent at planning out endgames, that's just a net benefit for them

~ Pichu

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this bullshit didn't help last day phase because the obvious "WE HAVE TO KILL THIS TODAY" lynch was on town

so stop going by what is optimal or whatever the fuck because it's outright not the best play in this case and you literally let Irrel have a free opportunity to damage control that slot by having him focus so hard on that

~ Pichu

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auro please tell me that you see the similarities between irrel in the first CoC and this game

because he sure as fuck feels a lot closer to that than he did in port arthur

~ Pichu

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ngl I'm pretty sure toog is just traitor

2 scum in a game of this size is stupid, I'm sorry

3 scum and a survivor still alive is stupid, I'm sorry

~ Pichu

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LOL we're definitely losing this game

Town is too scummy

-pika

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rhinox tell me in simple terms why 2978 is wrong

~ Pichu

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Mastina feels town
Pisskop, no clue
Krazy felt scummy for that bad push on me
You feel town
Rhinox, no clue
Still think we should Lynch Tog

It's beginning to smell a lot like scum auro

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Lol ank and alisae both want to burn skitter to the ground and here I am tempted to lynch scum auro over toog

Hey skittles what you think on auro?

-pika

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idk how to take that

~ Pichu

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Are those the only games of mine you're familiar with because the distinction isn't whether or not I'm town it's whether or not I'm in a hydra

Shoshin, who knows my game better than 98% of the players onsite, was 100% certain I was town in CoC. I don't think you know how to read me and I'm certain I've passed beyond my scumrange and it's pissing me off that you're still shading our slot.

ok

so this tells me that you're good at manipulating your meta

so why should I be townreading you(?)

~ Pichu

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Sure, most players in this playerlist will make the correct kill.
Do you also advocate "Never no lynch in mylo"?

idk

I generally don't make it to mylo

but I expect it depends on how I think endgame is going to play out

~ Pichu

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irrel

you understand that fmpov mastina always dies tonight right

~ Pichu

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Just confirming we're not coordinating a hammer with piss

-pika

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Rhinox what do you think is the most likely scumteam(s) overall

~ Pichu

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I'm rejecting this 1v1 btw

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I'm refusing to vote in it.

~ Pichu

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What makes you think we reached that stage?

~ Pichu

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That's the problem.

I can see this being TvT.

~ Pichu

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Go for it

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Nothing I say is going to push the lynch on anybody else ao just lynch toog

~ Pichu

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I think whoever is town that actually believes that hammer testing is a worthwhile strategy here is kidding themselves

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Toogeloo

Just get this over with so we can start playing actual mafia