Project ARCH - Epilogue

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Nancy will you be the savior of the city?

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you dont know how salty i am abt last game tho and not getting first post, me getting the first post every game could have been a real everhope tradition :/

also wow im surprised abt how little returning cast there is, i guess if i count vifam it's fine. i guess thats a good thing though rly

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yeah! honestly ive got a good feeling abt this game so

so, nancy, about that?

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

let cards fall where they may is always my motto

if someone claims they urgently need serum they will, and honestly being voteless-until-lylo isnt like as bad as death

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

i think the negative utility town we should be lynching to get serum are players we think are mafia

Im thinking about whoever is being lynched could nitpick who is on their wagon, it could offset a t flip, gives more power to a lynchee and give reads if a mefia is lynched and is torned between selecting scum or town on wagon, discuss

this actually isnt a bad idea if this playerlist is active, which i think it can be

im a bit worried abt reading into scum that know theyre dying's actions since thats almost like reading into guiltied scum but for mislynches it's good imo and if we do it for mislynches we kinda have to do it for scum

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

i think having a second vote thing thats unofficial is going to be too much effort to keep up from personal experience, just the lynched person having some authority is good enough

... I'm saying negative utility town could be used now to let people get serum, not that they're mafia. Jesus. When I'm talking about A and B, that doesn't mean you combine em.

So you think we should lynch, say, a miller, who you don't think is mafia, so that we get serum?

Yes I do. The weak are fuel for the stronger ones here.

uhm wig

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

his*

He's saying that someone being lynched should ask specific people to unvote and have people vote in their stead, which in theory would be useful to have townread people get more serum but now that im actually thinking about it what if we're like, in a cw situation or something where it's not clear who's getting lynched, or the person who the lynch wants to vote for them hard trs them, etc

How does town nitpicking give lynchees more power?

they decide who gets serum

i think the negative utility town we should be lynching to get serum are players we think are mafia

Im thinking about whoever is being lynched could nitpick who is on their wagon, it could offset a t flip, gives more power to a lynchee and give reads if a mefia is lynched and is torned between selecting scum or town on wagon, discuss

this actually isnt a bad idea if this playerlist is active, which i think it can be

im a bit worried abt reading into scum that know theyre dying's actions since thats almost like reading into guiltied scum but for mislynches it's good imo and if we do it for mislynches we kinda have to do it for scum

Even if assuming they are going to act like guilted scum, their choices still will have impact on the game and thus, will always be logically picked for either the serum gain or the associatives gain, still gives content for town

i mean fair enough, im just not going to give it much thought personally

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I have a negative utility read on Bambi

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Also I command all town to absolutely never self hammer + do not run up people to L-1, since there’s scum gain via selfing

please for fucks sake

Because day 1 is a crapshoot anyway and you know it, Dunn. Atleast I'm trying to make it easier for us later on for us.

i...

the point of d1 is to generate initial content to start the game off and establish stances/reads/stuff like that, policying someone for free serum does literally nothing that actually playing the game wouldnt except it doesnt make D2 basically D1?

some of us *like* d1

since there’s scum gain via selfing

No there isn't

Once again: when a scum player is lynched, ALL players gain 2 serum

I don't think that is a snowball mechanic to let town breeze through the game, and so I don't think denying serum is incredibly impactful

Less serum means it's easier to keep track of stuff. Like if somebody got roleblocked - who had serum?

i mean it's a small benefit but you prevent 1 player from gaining an additional 2 serum

if anything the converse is also true in that if you think your hammerer is scum selfing would prevent them from getting 2 extra serum

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

if scum decide to self that means in that situation they believe that town should have less serum, giving them that agency to self is the issue

Do we have any reason right now to assume its a BAD thing?

we dont have any reason to assume anything

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

scum get lynched d1 plenty, bussed or not

we're not skipping day 1

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I'm clearly not saying we skip day 1. I'm saying we murder what could be a hinderence later on and give an organized list of people on a wagon to lynch said hinderence.

that is, in essence, skipping day 1...

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

kid and dunn are town, i think CHKslot is probably town, i'll sheep dunn on gamma for now. anumi hasnt checked in besides two days ago to confirm so i assume shes busy : x

VOTE: redpanda why would we ever claim companies ...

tried to read the first few pages but got really bored

VOTE: Gamma

alright great I won't feel bad for not reading

uhm wig

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do you have a preference out of them?

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

saying dunn is alien to humor is completely alien to me TBH dlfkjasl;ksajfl;dfjakdls;jfa;lkd

i dont think 154 means anything AI :L

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

is fred creature

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

^

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

fred is town though if he is in fact creature (like 90% sure), idk about cloud just yet

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

good vibes

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I am Dunnstral

I am Dunnstral

I was going to follow this up with "...and I'm a miller." in my next post, but after post 15 I wanted to see what Bambi's deal was

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

dunn havent you played with cloud before ???

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

dunn havent you played with cloud before ???

They said mafia normally back then

no lol

unwnd im like 90% sure it means nothing but im not gonna speak for cloud

pedit: wig

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

dunn havent you played with cloud before ???

They said mafia normally back then

no lol

unwnd im like 90% sure it means nothing but im not gonna speak for cloud

pedit: wig

Yeah I get that vibe and it's gonna be a crapshoot to read him, I'll let you do it because it gives me a genuine headache

i... i dont know if im up to it

idk im not really townreading him rn

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

it's almost like it's the protown thing to do

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

fred let's get redpanda

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

a one shot game? as opposed to............?

or do u mean ur just not playing on site again after this

I keep seeing people quoting RC and thinking I got super drunk and forgot my posts

Also this is my egopost I'll be around sometime before never

lol

it's almost like it's the protown thing to do

You think I like being protown? Have you not have of Bambi "that bitch" Jay?

i never implied that, ive played with u lmaoooo

I will be incredibly easy to read especially since it’s a one shot game and I don’t really plan on being active again, so I don’t have to worry about killing my scum game by being too towny, so dw

I'd policy Lynch this attitude.

Anyway bye will post from Hydra acc from now on just wanted EgOpOsT

you'd policy someone for playing one game on this site and not returning?

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I will be incredibly easy to read especially since it’s a one shot game and I don’t really plan on being active again, so I don’t have to worry about killing my scum game by being too towny, so dw

I'd policy Lynch this attitude.

Anyway bye will post from Hydra acc from now on just wanted EgOpOsT

tf are you even on about, thats not even “attitude”, I am saying I will be purposefully transparent, how is that for a PL?

in good faith im gonna assume he's a bit out of it and misread it as that you only try to towntell as town or something to that effect

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

fred is town

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Vote progression found strange... user 12 wanting us to claim companies does not appear to be virus-like. It appears to be in protocol. Please give more details

im not sure i find it scummy either, i just want to know what was on his mind and im using my vote to show thats where im focusing rn

i dont particularly find anyone scummy thus far, just people who i think are townie and people who arent

I read CKs post the opposite of what it meant but I think the attitude of I'm not going to towntell in my town games so I'm harder to catch as scum is abhorrent and tantamount to gamethrowing as town.

Also I really don't want to deal with what Fred the cat is doing. I don't care where they're aligned. It's garbage and it's going to make the game very unenjoyable for me.

i mean sure

also maria you really think dunn is null rn? huh??

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

fred the cat things

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do you really have to ask that dunn? :L

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anumi is gonna be pretty insulted when she finds out u guys think she'd type like a SIMPLETON im calling it

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I think it's strange that your read on me seems to be 'he claimed miller so he's null, because miller claims are null'

When a lot more happened than that

^

like maria i thought you also had a good read on dunn? i have him as like as realistically locktown as you can get D1 with no mod confirmation, do you disagree?

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

we're not policying dunn just because he claimed miller ?????? why is he going to die regardless

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Affirmative, was my wording not clear?
pedit: Why are you bringing up the topic of policy lynching user 7?

why else would someone be certain a miller is dying

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Day 1 Ends In 20 days, 7 hours, 49 minutes.

... wig

im not upset with this ftr i just hope we dont wind up using all of it

VOTE: rauth

townread the wagon composition, dont townread the wagonner. lgbt stands for let's get this bread etc

dunn would you not vote rauth? i wanna get a townie wagon going on someone

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

19 is a weird size for a game

In my mind, the progression goes like this:
5 people: 1 mafia
9 people: 2 mafia
13 people: 3 mafia
17 people: 4 mafia
21 people: 5 mafia

So I think third party is pretty likely. Or maybe I'm just wrong and 19 is considered normal for 4 scum

town might have killing power and more town to compensate for it

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

also rauth town why?

i wanna give vifam a bropass for a bit

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

19 is a weird size for a game

In my mind, the progression goes like this:
5 people: 1 mafia
9 people: 2 mafia
13 people: 3 mafia
17 people: 4 mafia
21 people: 5 mafia

So I think third party is pretty likely. Or maybe I'm just wrong and 19 is considered normal for 4 scum

town might have killing power and more town to compensate for it

Town needs extra town to compensate for town killing power though?

so that 4 scum = 4 mislynches still yeah, if i were making a setup with a lot of killing power on town's side i would add extra town. like 2 or 4

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

3p spec is boring and usually unproductive anyway :shrug:

let the chips fall where they may, etc

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

It helps me. you think I should stop?

I mean if you only care about employed/unemployed you're actually wrong, we're employed

i think it's incredibly antitown though to hint at what company though, i think someone basically had the same thought as me in that prs could be related to company flavor. i think unemployed/employed is fine

pedit: im not resistant to it if you only need employed or unemployed

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Its funny because its true @fred

...wig

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

There's one world where this is like

[Rautherdir/Primate/Cloudkicker/*]

Curremtly THIS is closer to the world Katyusha-chan and I possess congruent opinions towards! \(*＾▽＾)／

I have not perused the thread to the current segment of temporal space BUT I would like to inquire if the fact that KidAmn and RATHERDID at this point in time are counterwagonning is at all SIGNIFICANT to thee Raybells? Within the confines of my lucidity this leads further credence to the potentiality of this world being more plauisble! (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

I also do must believe that 522 is actually MORE likely to come from town!KidAmn as counterintuitive as it may be... ┐( ˘_˘)┌

~simyk!!

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I think Gamma always looks a little scummy when he's town

ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

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I think superfan is town

I believe I've only seen them as scum once, and I was on their team - I don't know how much they could have improved that ga,e/don't remember what was going on at the time

Both Katyusha-chan and I possess scumgames that are easy to underestimate, from what I recall she was in a BAD DEPRESSIVE episode during that game so I would not really hold it against her or use that as a baseline if thou'rt intending on relying on META for reading usヽ( ´¬`)ノ

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

personality

(≖ლ≖๑ )

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I had intended to quote that entire post! It is very evocative of the emoticon "(≖ლ≖๑ )"

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VOTE: Primate

(ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

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I am primarily allocating my vote in that direction due to the lack of interest in Ratherdid and wagon purity! (*´艸`*)

I am not too sure about Cloudkicker at the present HOWEVER I am not too alarmed by him at the present

Can people vote the person I’m voting

That will receive a negatory repsonse from me...

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Memestar... (｡•́︿•̀｡)

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Anyone want to vouch for RCSF.

i wouldnt take anyone vouching for us too seriously yet, neither of us really havent stepped out of our scumrange because we're both playing super lowkey. usually as either alignment we're both prominent slots but eh

maybe in like an hour i'll try to read a bit more seriously and do something more productive, ive just been kind of out of it irl

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

for the record im really skeptical of gamma scumreads

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maria you wanna point out what "bad logic" gamma has been using that isnt just like, gamma being a space cadet as usual? esp given stuff like 819, the interactions in 935, and 1027 (though obviously yes it's probably just because people want to vote the scumread with more votes I think this observation absolutely is valid to make while you're a wagon) i feel like bad logic is a strange reason to criticize him, i think the positions he's taking and the character he's portraying in-thread are absolutely reasonable in his head and even just in general... which is usually town indicative for him


VOTE: unwnd

townreads are pushing him (sans bambi), and also i kind of just registered that he's also the dude in that normal with all the informed prs who got annoyed at garmr for being super literal (the p3 guy avatar is what i remembered not the name . but at the time i thought that post was rly funny so it left an impression on me while i was watching that game lol ) - does that same person really make a comment like 171? like i thought it was kind of clearly a shitpost and not an attempt to look smart, like no one thinks simyk is intelligent because she can read a thesaurus for example

chemist is kind of uninteresting to talk about to me, either he'll post more later or there's going to be some interaction thats worth relooking after a flip

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but Dunn and RC are my strongest TRs right now.
Also ftr i have trouble scumhunting in general, i find townies more easily, but sometimes i try to find scum.
But im currently busy with RL, + videogames + overgamed, but im still trying, just expect bursts of activity instead.

Disagree on the first Reluctant on the second

genuinely confused by the way because im at the point where i'd defend dunn with my life at this point if it came down to that, what seems scummy abt him to you?

It's a read based on a fairly confident alt guess.

I don't agree on the alt, because if it was that person I'd townread him too

i'd shit myself if fred were anyone other than creature :/

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

gamma's the kind of guy who used to get mislynched a lot because he just had weird reads or sensibility

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Dunn's playing generally town but like a good player, I don't really get why anyone would have a final read on him at this point (unless they just know him better than me, is legit).

i have a very good read on dunn (hes probably like top 5 easiest players to read... this is without a doubt town!dunn), but you're right which is why i'm questioning unwnd's read. he could be town and just Not Seeing it but i'd want to know where he's coming from

If everyone sheeps me we probably lynch scum

wig

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

i dont know if i buy that entirely but okay

like wouldnt saying "nvm realized this was a shitpost" have worked fine? why keep momentum in a direction that isnt what you want to be pushing in-thread?

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

mostly writing this out bc i get worried im townreading too many slots and posting smth like this in a hydra pt for that purpose is kind of pointless

town (no specific order for any of these)
Fred The Cat
Celestial Coordinates (Nancy Drew 39 & RadiantCowbells)
Sakura Hana
Dunnstral
Gamma Emerald

less town but probably town
Primate
KidAmn
thecoldheartedking
Cloudkicker

not town
MariaR
Rautherdir
Omochao
Bambi Jay
Chemist1422
RedPanda
WhemeStar
Vifam
unwnd

anyway im actually surprised that im, not townreading ppl super easily? hhh

pedit: unwnd did you mean 261? like yea it's clear over the course of your iso you realize you were wrong but thats basically because the thread said so by that point...

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

okay yes that is what you meant, wig

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I didn't think it was possible to have four reads in six pages. I'm so proud of you guys.

VOTE: Rautherdir

Baa.

dunno, i vaguely felt this was town at the time but i guess thats fair

i thought he had more posts, wonder what i confused that w

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

uh

why should i be townreading you? you havent really done anything that made me think that town is more likely to do or even anything unlikely scum?

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

convincingly scumhunt? townpost? idk

i wouldnt worry about it too hard

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

This game got boring real quick

it's because im not here enough to spice it up

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

RCSF, why is Gamma a townread?

im genuinely struggling to see where scumreads of him are coming from and i think a consensus scumread on someone that isnt scummy but typically is misread early game is generally going to be town?

if that makes sense. i realize this is basically saying "he's not scummy so he's town" which is Bad Reasoning but, like, thats the vibe i get from the gamestate

i wont like shit myself if i'm wrong, that's like a dunn-tier read, but i think he's fairly likely town just for that. do you think he's scummy, and if so can you point towards the posts that first made u feel that way

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Reaction test over. Results...positive. Moving on to real lynch target
VOTE: Primate

what were you even reaction testing...?

every time i read the thread it just goes in one ear and out the other and i know im a shitslot and not improving it but hhhh

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I dislike the wording/phrasing of your last paragraph, it comes off as overjustifying & tone is off, like almost apologetic and you never stroke me as someone like that

also

bwuh??

you've played with me twice now? surely you've seen how much of a pushover i am in general

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

unwnd can you try to like, try to centralize who you're calling out? who are the scummy people letting the gamestate be as illogical as you state it is? as valid and relatable-in-past games as 1240 it's meaningless to me if you're not pointing out who you think could be the scum trying to make the gamestate the way it is. like i've been in your position before and even though i was completely wrong about it it let me move the gamestate along and eventually lynch scum.

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Spoiler: gamma posts that pinged me

You ever gonna post that Link of the game where I was scum and played with you or whatever words you used

Why can't you find it yourself I posted the name/number

What do you think about Unwnd?

Idk

I guarantee that is not an actual posting restriction and it's just Maria being cheeky

don't know why they entered with this

*extends arms outward in front of them, palms open and face up*
*raises left hand, lowers right hand*
*raises right hand, lowers left hand*

To the left, take it back now y'all
One hop this time, right foot let's stomp
Left foot let's stomp, cha cha real smooth

This and the last post both were responses to CHK, don't know the meaning of it though

Mechanics talk is probably annoyingly necessary, but I also find most people who have talked about to be null. I think it matters more what you do with the knowledge of mechanics rather than just uh, talking about them

this is a decent take

I mean, at the very least can you not make it a quote pyramid at the same time? Please?
Also, why did that vote happen CloudKicker. I can't tell why you made the vote from your previous posts or context.

I know you are trying to distance yourself from me when I openchainsawed your slot

lol this is such useless jargon i feel like it's made from a scum who is trying to play off as an informative townie

VOTE: CloudKicker

I don't really see how this is "confusing jargon"

We should start running up some players that have brought only lame discussions so far.

1. Fred the Cat

a lot of people made posts like this but this one feels flatter than some others

I mean, at the very least can you not make it a quote pyramid at the same time? Please?
Also, why did that vote happen CloudKicker. I can't tell why you made the vote from your previous posts or context.

I know you are trying to distance yourself from me when I openchainsawed your slot

lol this is such useless jargon i feel like it's made from a scum who is trying to play off as an informative townie

VOTE: CloudKicker

lol why me

Your sentence made no sense, but like actually

What did you mean by him openchainsawing your slot? That's not even a proper term

It's a mafia shorthand portmanteau, what's so odd about it?

It's gonna be hard to determine which of CloudKicker/Fred is being stupid and the other is just scum

This isn't just a false dichotomy, it's non existent as no one else was looking at these two like this. Also regardless of this dichotomy making no sense:

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

I just get the feeling he doesn't believe in half of the things he says

Whether or not this is just lolhumor or intentional is yet to be determined

This makes me think it makes more sense for unwnd to assume Cloudy is scum, which makes the last thing I quoted make less sense.

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

I just get the feeling he doesn't believe in half of the things he says

Whether or not this is just lolhumor or intentional is yet to be determined

Can you please make a case about the post you dislike, what doesnt sound genuine etc. I already explained the post you didn’t understand, I am assuming you fos me for other posts.

I think you're weird and I don't get your humor but others don't think it's scummy

You explained what you meant but why does him openchainsawing and distancing (your words) mean. As in, the person you said you were doing those things. Are they scum?

I'll talk about this below.

i like cloud i dont think hes even being dumb or like unreasonably scummy just hard to understand

I just get the feeling he doesn't believe in half of the things he says

Whether or not this is just lolhumor or intentional is yet to be determined

Can you please make a case about the post you dislike, what doesnt sound genuine etc. I already explained the post you didn’t understand, I am assuming you fos me for other posts.

I think you're weird and I don't get your humor but others don't think it's scummy

You explained what you meant but why does him openchainsawing and distancing (your words) mean. As in, the person you said you were doing those things. Are they scum?

I was only calling green gear mefia if I was mefia so you can imagine it wasn’t shading and only banter, so no that post had no genuine reads behind it.

You don’t know what distancing means?
A good amount of mefia games are partly solved via associatives between slot aka how mefia tends to interact because they share their hidden win condition. So a lot of mefia will go out of their way to make posts with the sole purpose to make good interactions with their other mefia members, so when people ISO either slot once thwy are flipped mefia, it will not be obvious who the others mefias are.
Is that better? I implied that it was what green gear was doing with me, implying we were both mefia

No, no

I'm asking you why you said those things about Rautherdir in 154. Like what does it mean in terms of how you read him

at this point it is very clear 154 was a joke anyway. And unwnd weebs to get this so it's very strange he's still taking it seriously?

Vifam I don't know why you didn't proceed to vote Gamma when I said I'd hop on with you

This is a sure sign unwnd isn't taking people's votes closely

My issue with you right now is that even if you feel validated in defending yourself, I dunno why you would bother. If RC is the type of person that will push you regardless of alignment (going by what you told me) then I don't know what you gain entertaining him. Another thing I'm not the biggest fan of is your snapback to Sakura and insisting you're town, which I find tilted scum tend to do. I'd rather see you try to solve your attackers instead of getting petty

I wanted to hammer out whether I was wrong about the meta because I have been boneheadedly mistaken about past game details, as Katyusha can attest to, so I wanted to get the facts straight before I really concluded how I felt about RC's actions.

I think RC is pretty solvable and I don't know why he needs excuses to refuse to interact with him

Not even close to CloudKicker

A lot of unwnd's posts focus on Cloudy so these two aren't scum together imo

If you don't trust either right now Kid is this more indicative of null or that you suspect both

Decent post imo

I don't know any of your personalities besides Maria hence I commented on it, and I'm not sure why personality should be a starting point for why you're town lol

I'm gonna come back to this post a while later, probably within a week

So overall there's a couple decent posts by unwnd but overall it's rather scummy imo

Be a good girl and vote him for me please Gamma

Can do
VOTE: unwnd

Moreover what is your current read on Gamma and him saying 'IDK' about me and then trying to bring up a quotewall when provoked

Ok I just noticed this and it's bullshit, the quote wall was me forming a read because I knew if I didn't have a read on you I should get one, and it just took a while because I was trying to do a quote wall on mobile while playing other games too.

User 9 virus % slowly rising with every new input...Fake logic detected. Would like to put into extermination process

At this point either MariaR is either scum or has lost the ability to read me right because every time they've talked about me it's been to call me scum
I'm leaning the former now that it is in words

The exact same thing I said that was happening in #804 seems to be coming to fruition

I should've named myself Soothsayer

Ok I just noticed this and it's bullshit, the quote wall was me forming a read because I knew if I didn't have a read on you I should get one, and it just took a while because I was trying to do a quote wall on mobile while playing other games too.

I don't know why you need to explain yourself like this if you weren't provoked or don't feel like you did anything wrong in the first place

Because you were making it out like that was the case??? You had just said I posted the read wall "when provoked" which wasn't true so I was disproving that.

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

Why do you scumread anyone who provokes you besides RC Gamma

1) this is a lie, if I were to scumread MariaR for provoking me it would've come a lot sooner
2) I didn't scumread RC because it was equally likely that it was town!RC just being very wrong
3) p sure other people have provoked me without me suspecting them

As far as I remember this is the first time you interacted with her? I won't argue the point of provoking you because apparently that idea is something you get very defensive about, which I imagine means you are uh, provoked. Like, if it didn't bother you? You wouldn't response. You wouldn't care. You're right you didn't scumread RC, but as far as I remember you toyed with the idea of what alignment he was and never gave a solid definition. Why do you feel like you're wrong now? He hasn't been playing any different besides backing off you. This is why I said I feel like you only scumread people who provoke you, because you were getting all mad and frustrated even FULL CAPS about RC's read on you earlier and now it doesn't even matter and he's just town?

Why does the last point matter?

I definitely interacted with Maria earlier. And I only took offense to the "being provoked" thing because it was used to attack my wall when that was extremely not the case, I just took a while because I had some points that criss crossed between posts I was looking at. Yes I did toy with the idea of RC being scum but I figured it was easier to not go with that because if RC were scum then they'd probably get me lynched anyway, and it worked our because by assuming RC was town I got a sense that they were being genuine in pushing me. The reason I was going all caps was because I was convinced RC was wrong about the YGM game, and I stopped yelling when I read that game and realized "oh shit I was the wrong one". The last point matters because it contradicts what you're saying.

I again don't know why you need to explain yourself if you did nothing wrong. This tangent you're getting into and trying to cover all bases makes me feel worse about you than better. I make stupid and shitty reads all the time, let alone embarrass myself

If you accept RC was a bad read, that's fine. Instead you have some coordinated reason as to why it was bad and it comes off like you're self-aware in a way that you don't want anything leading back to you

Cool, apparently I'm scum for actually being able to fucking defend myself, piss off. I started explaining myself because you presented a bullshit interpretation of my actions and I wanted to make clear what the actual situation was. Also if you didn't want me doing a war of the words, maybe don't respond to a pointed list with a wall of text?

Well of course you would I'm pushing you
But to respond more thoroughly yeah I'm frustrated because you appear to be using twisty fucking language and when people do that it makes me angry because it's really hard to argue with. And I'm saying the behavior in response to my own is scummy because 1) that's what I think, I already believe you're scum so you resounding like this just reinforces my feelings, and for Maria it's the fact we actually have a good rate of reading each other so for her to consistent push me like this sends alarms ringing in my mind, and it's not the first time she's tried this playing scum against me either. 2) sometimes I just end up reading people based on how they interact with me, I've been told I've had OMGUS style reads in the past.

I can vaguely see what you're saying Cloudy but I'm still not sure, like you say it feels like someone who feels unjustly pushed but I don't see that.
But I also think I can agree with the idea of leaving him to post more and seeing what happens
VOTE: MariaR though because I stand by the fact this isn't how town!Maria approaches me at all

reading this now

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

oh hhh i expected commentary

meh if anything it just made me disagree more that unwnd/gamma is svs :V

pedit: she's busy, we hardly have talked in the pt but im keeping in touch with her

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

gamma how can we solve this game

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

Who is Anumi?

simyk

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

isnt it confirmed not multiball via flavor?

Lynch scum early, don't let scum drive the game, check your blindspot in the late game
PEdit: Anumi is SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis

i was hoping for a more like, relevant response rather than like a general attitude but wig

idk i want to drive the game a bit but like, i have no patience to threadsit even though this is actually my only current game

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

idk i want to drive the game a bit but like, i have no patience to threadsit even though this is actually my only current game

and no idea what else to do besides interact with things in the thread i find relevant* <== the important bit

pedit: i'm town already almost

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

If a lynched player was aligned with Simotech, all players receive an additional 2 Serum.

like this makes me think it's town v one scum team, maybe a benevolent 3p at best but it's a pointless thought to entertain

and also a benevolent 3p would out so

pedit: i'm town already almost

Guide me through the seas and beyond then.

i was asking a question not stating it

i would love to do that though! just have no idea what really to do

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

on god i forgot gamma scumread wheme - why arent you voting for him...?

Pretty sure all of Wheme, CK, Unwnd, MariaR, FTC, Gamma contain all the scum anyway.

pp is excluded from this why?

he's usually an easy read but i dont have one on him yet

i would love to do that though! just have no idea what really to do

Who is your spiritual leader?

my third eye

I probably wouldn't out as benevolent 3p

bad play most of the time

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

my third eye

You have three eyes and you don't know what to do?

i have yet to blitz my chakras, yes

pp is excluded from this why?

Because i dont think we have that many scum.

im... not sure why you would find that to be the team then but sure

How come you only asked me about pp anyway.

first person that came to mind, i thought it was a poe list and i wasnt going to go through every player i would expect most ppl to have at null rn

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

ie i thought pp's exclusion = townread

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

gamma im starting to doubt you're town

what is giving u the feeling you have to keep your vote on maria? i dont think that wagon's going to really go anywhere today thus far

pedit: i said in the beginning of the thread that i think corporations hint at prs and are mostly flavor, so yeah that would be detrimental

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

sanity refers to results

ie sane cop always gets an innocent on town or godfathers and guilties on millers and mafia

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

I went back to double check (just in case I confused Kat with Sakura in my brain) and YES,

it is Katyusha

that I'm hard TRing enough for me to sheep her already.

Spoiler:

wig!

[RadiantCowbells Superfan]

with my text-reading ears, my permanently closed third eye, and simyk's powerful respectful and unwavering voice we're sure to get a d1 scumlynch