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You're like me, but a few hours in the future...Cream147 wrote:Ok, so I wake up, get excited because we're on page 5 already, and then realise that most of it is pointless Gimbo posts. Gimbo, please get an avatar change as well. Seriously, it would be ok if your posts weren't regular, but as they are, it is seriously annoying.
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Gimbo wrote:cuz I was the 2nd one on Alabaska and yours would've been the 3rd, the 3rd one on a bandwagon...iamausername wrote:Dude, you're right! L-10! It's too risky!
You claim you're joking, yet hold your vote? Seems a tad inconsistent.Gimbo wrote:lol, I'm joking, it takes 13 to lynch, wonder how long it'll take for 13 of us to actually reach a concensus...
This....Dragonsofsummer wrote:Vote Xtoxmfor being the only one who still hasn't confirmed.
...and this...Gimbo wrote:UnvoteLet's get him out so fast he won't know what the fuck happened. At least for fun, c'mon people, please???
Vote:XtoxmTheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Votegimbo.
Too easy?
...seem remarkably opportunistic.Gimbo wrote:OMGUS and fuck your sarcasm with a passion
Unvote
Vote: TheSweatpantsNinja
A player's "meta" is essentially information which is gathered about how a player acts in certain situations. This information is gathered from researching a player's completed games, of which you have none. Therefore you have no meta.Gimbo wrote:Maybe, just maybe mymetais to act dumb so that you gusy will think I am acting dumb
Oh, so the lynching of an innocent Townie doesn't getGimbo wrote:but I am actually using reverse psychology and am actually dumb but because you think I am acting dumb you are suspiciosu and lynch me the 1st day and discover that I am an innocent Townie and you can all go fuck yourselves for gettingyouselvescloser to losing, how's that?youcloser to losing? How's that?
In conclusion,Unvote, Vote: Gimbo.
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Scrutinizing over every word, so long as you're doing it right, is likely to provide the best results.Gimbo wrote:I had no idea every word I type must be scrutinized.
There's something inherently scummy about a player who doesn't want to be inspected.Gimbo wrote:Dude, now don't go and analyze every word up there
This is the problem. If you apply such an attitude to the gameplay as a whole, then blatant carelessness could lead to your downfall.Gimbo wrote:I typed that in like 1 minutes
You have a conclusion, you have evidence, but you have no reasoning to connect the two, and thus no argument.Gimbo wrote:Fos: Cream 147, somestrangeflea
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I find it difficult to see why I should come off scummy from this situation. It's not as though there was a Gimbo-wagon and, reading from the posts so far, it didn't look as though many other people actually saw Gimbo as scummy at that point in time. I personally don't believe a 24-player town will lynch based on their personal opinion of Gimbo, so I disagree with your argument that he was an "extremely easy lynch target" for me.armlx wrote:This vote is not about wagoning, its about you attacking the EXTREMELY easy lynch target on the basis of him acting normal for him.
FOS SSFsecondary to that, but you at least tried to make a case.
That said, I will agree that Cream's vote does seem a tad opportunistic, but I will not research, in depth, Gimbo's behaviour in ongoing games because:
1. They're ongoing, so I wouldn't be able to comment on the results anyway.
2. I don't feel that Gimbo's personality traits can act as an excuse for genuine tells.
I don't see very much that makes me inherently not-scummy, but it's much easier to get a lynch based on scummy stuff that someone has done than non-scummy stuff that they haven't...Gimbo wrote:Besides, what makes you not scummy?
It seems you're willing to see this player dead regardless of the role he may actually hold.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:So, gimbo, pro-town, bowser, nk-immune miller vig, whatever, needs to be removed.
Give one coin to armlx.
I trust that you will do what needs to be done.
This, plus:sideney wrote:How you know that you can trust armlx?
What makes you think that armlx actuallywantsto kill Gimbo?
IGMEOY: TSN
I think he's referring to Rule 23.farside22 wrote:The rules never stated how coins will be given.-
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I'm very meh about it. It seems like something which the scum could manipulate fairly easily...TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:Please comment on the Socialist Mass Coin Redistribution Plan For Victory.
TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:If we don't combine, all that's going to happen is scum are going to start killing us off, and then we'll have less coins, and still not enough to do anything with.
We could, you know,TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:That seems like a good idea, or at least preferable to the alternative, which is standing around twiddling our thumbs.play Mafia. You seem to be focussing on the coins as though they are the sole factor that will make or break the game. They're like powers in any other game: They're useful if we've got them, but we shouldn't be relying on them. Vigs, Cops and Bulletproofs (powers which we can buy) exist in many other games, but they don't serve as a replacement for standard scumhunting.
I'm willing to bet that if there is a lynch, it'll be done by June 25th.Gimbo wrote:Because no matter what, someone is going to die before N1 and we can either decide to do this meticulously and actually lynch the one who seems the most scummy (which might take god knows how long given the amount needed to lynch:13!)
Gimbo's claim is weird. It starts off as a role that can revive, then changes to a Toad with a one-shot ability, then into a Toad with an item. I don't have a large amount of confidence in it. What I will say is this: Given that the revival is an item, Gimbo's claim does not, in and of itself, hint towards or against any specific alignment.First Post wrote:Deadline: June 25
You've only just found out that your item is day-use only? Surely this is the sort of thing you should know from the start of the game?Gimbo wrote:Hi, btw 1-Up can onyl be used during the day, that's why I was really upset I forgot about the 1-item clause
The outing of you as what? You're nothing but a regular Townie with an item (which any number of other playersGimbo wrote:FaerieLord, I still insist that my outting will be a good thing in the long run.couldhave) who claimed with little/no provocation whatsoever.
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You're welcome... wheat...dude (?)TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
Thanks for that strawman.somestrangeflea wrote: We could, you know, play Mafia. You seem to be focussing on the coins as though they are the sole factor that will make or break the game. They're like powers in any other game: They're useful if we've got them, but we shouldn't be relying on them. Vigs, Cops and Bulletproofs (powers which we can buy) exist in many other games, but they don't serve as a replacement for standard scumhunting.-
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It wasn't an argument, just an observation.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
Thanks for that strawman. Obviously we should also be scumhunting. But we have this coin mechanic, and we ought to use it in the way that most benefits the town.somestrangeflea wrote: We could, you know, play Mafia. You seem to be focussing on the coins as though they are the sole factor that will make or break the game. They're like powers in any other game: They're useful if we've got them, but we shouldn't be relying on them. Vigs, Cops and Bulletproofs (powers which we can buy) exist in many other games, but they don't serve as a replacement for standard scumhunting.-
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Could you get quotes for this? I don't recall saying that the coin mechanic could break the game. I said that it could be manipulated by scum, and it's not as important as scumhunting, IIRC...armlx wrote:SSF saying that he agrees with TSN that coin stuff can break the game but then saying he doesn't want to pile coins is odd. Saying you don't think TSN's strategy is a breaking one is valid, but saying it may be but not wanting to do it is shady.
No, you're not. Here's why...Gimbo wrote:Yea! I'm confirmed townie
It's a town specific action, which means revival would be an action for a pro-town role, but, as I've already mentioned, the revival isn't part of a role, it's an item which could be completely independent of the role which holds it.armlx wrote:SSF also attacked Gimbo's claim, saying 1-up is not a alignment based item. SSF, it is. Revival is a very town specific action.
Also note, there was something he wasn't telling us about the item which gives the scum an advantage...
...and thus it is feasible that a scum member could be given the item at the start of the game.Surye wrote:Though he did leave out one interesting property of the revived player... I'll give Gimbo a chance to reveal that, or tell me there's a reason he plans not too. Note: This property makes it quite useful for scum, which is why I'm curious.
That said, whilst I don't agree with the confirmed-Gimbo arguement, I can see that a large number of other players would. SoUnvote, for now.
This I agree with. TSN, you've suggested the coin claiming, people have agreed, people have disagreed, you've provided your counter-arguments against those people, which is all well and good, but it's posts like this...farside wrote:What is rubbing me wrong with TSN is that he FOS's anyone that disagrees with him.
...pushing the issue with no new reasoning, evidence, or prompting, which bug me.TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:In another news, I don't see nearly enough coin-claiming.
Bear in mind that "valid" =/= "correct", "accurate", "logical", "sensible", etc.Cream wrote:That's absolutely right. And people know that you're always telling the truth now, so all opinions and comments you make are valid.
This is true, if there is one scum in the group of 20 players, and one scum only. 1/20 (odds of investigating the scum), * 4 (number of investigators) = 4/20 = 1 in 5 (your number).farside wrote:With 20 people to investigate you have a 1 out of 5 chance of finding scum with 4 players looking.
Think of a hypothetical situation with 2 scum in that group of 20. The odds of one player investigating a scum is 2/20, or 1/10. Now, since there are four investigators, you multiply that probability by 4, giving a 4 in 10 chance, or 3 in 5.
See how the numbers change with more/less scum in the group being investigated? This is the point which iamausername and some other players were trying to get at. Also, see this post from Cream.-
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There could be a bunch of possible reasons. "To balance pro-town items", "To balance pro-town coin count" are just a few.Gimbo wrote:Since you are still questionign my alignment, think of it this way. finding even a single scum is hard enough in mafia games, why would a scum be given an item that could potentially allow them to revive a dead player.
Well at least you're honest...populartajo wrote:Im feeling really lazy atm.
Care to explain me why are you voting for him?
Also note: If you don't do your own research, you're susceptable to mindless bandwaggoning. I think you could be setting yourself up to hop on.
FoS: Pop
I call "Burden of proof"...Phoebus wrote:SO why not you?
Last I heard it was mindless bandwaggoning...FaerieLord wrote:Cream, the town wants you dead. So no, it is not being opportunistic. It is following the town's lead. Which in this case is a null-tell
Also note: As previously mentioned, "the town wants you dead" is bullshit.
FoS: FL
Gimbo wrote:being too town sometimes is a good scum-tell.Cream wrote:I certainly have not been too townie this game lol. I am aware that it is often a good tell,X
"Too Townie", is a very well documented piece of bullshit logic.
Deadline approaching, this post needs a vote.
I can see the logic behind a Cream wagon, but I feel there are better lynches today. I agree with Surye. FL needs to be examined more, and quickly too.
Vote: FL-
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...since when had we decided that? It looks to me that you're notRiceballtail wrote:No, Gimbo. We've already decided that we're going to end up doing some kind of mass-vig/cop tonight.reallypaying attention to what's going on.
Maybe you don't need to.IGMEOY: Riceballtail
Absolutely.Cream147 wrote:
Any decent reason that you're voting me, or are you simply voting me for going with the majority's sake.sideney wrote:I think i will go with the majority, i don't have any idea from this day one. For now:
Vote Cream147
FOS:sideney. It's opportunistic, and it's self-admitted bandwagoning.
IGMEOY: Sideney
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My opinion of this has already been made quite clear.populartajo wrote:Do you think Gimbo could be scum now that we know that the 1UP mushroom also has a scum ability?
I voted for FL for pretty much the same thing that armlx did. Also, deadline was/is approaching, and there wasn't a particularly strong alternative to the Cream-wagon. We needed to find one.populartajo wrote:What was the exact reasn for voting Faerie Lord?
In other news...
You haven't made a "non-random" vote all game. There's caution, but this is just a complete lack of commitment.FaerieLord wrote:Ehh, I rarely vote. See other games.-
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Well, you accuse someone of fishing, then fish yourself, so I'm gonna go with hypocrisy...Phoebus wrote:
Hahaha!ashmite wrote:Phoebus question definately does not sound like the words of someone who got the townie PM,
And what exactly is the townie PM?
Are you role fishing?
Are there even any specific non townies?
For all I know - there's the mafia, a bunch of toads who can buy powers and that's it.
Even Peach might be a mechanic from where I sit...
You are right clueless, you are.
What exactly have I said or.. rather... not said that's so evil and scumbaggy?
...interspersed with ad hominem.
Unvote, Vote: Phoebus
Of course you were.Riceballtail wrote:For those who aren't aware, I was reaction fishing with my NL vote.
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That's because there is no way for "LOL" (or "ELL OH ELL") to sound sincere.Riceballtail wrote:
Because I find that his use of words, in particular, are what makes it scummy. They sound pro-town upon looking, but if you run them through your head as though someone were saying it, they sound very anti-town whichever way you run it.iamausername wrote:
Why do you think this is more likely a scum reaction than town?Riceballtail wrote:
Is exactly the scummy reaction I was looking for.skitzer wrote:LOL wait. Riceballtail is so much more scummy than Rogue Shenanigans...
NL just for reactions? Please.
Unvote, Vote Riceballtail
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Phoebus (5): ashmite84, killa seven, Riceballtail, somestrangeflea, Rogue Shenanigans
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FaerieLord (3): Surye, mr. incrediball, iamausername
Riceballtail (2): skitzer, Gimbo
Rogue Shenanigans (1): farside22
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Just pointing out that, if deadline is drawing near without them, I am willing to change my vote to make up the seven needed to lynch.iamausername wrote:
It kind of is when we have a deadline in two days and we need to get someone to 7 votes to get a lynch.armlx wrote:
Is this even a valid reason to unvote?Alabaska J wrote:cream's wagon is dead.
Which is why I'm going toUnvote, Vote: Rogue Shenaniganstoo.
I'm following the standard
reasoning.Any lynch>No lynch
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Mario Party maybe, but not Mushroom Kingdom.Surye wrote:
Mario party series? He's definitely anti-bowser, almost by definition.armlx wrote:Something really bugs me about that claim. I don't think DK has been pro-Mario in ANY game in the Mushroom Kingdom. If I am wrong, someone can correct me, but vote stands.
I call fakeclaim.
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More believable than a "Super Banana".Riceballtail wrote:Yoshi - I get no items, no coins, and no vote (ever, and no you can't give them to me, they become forfeit when anything is in my possession). At night I can attempt to eat a scum. If I hit a scum, they don't get a vote the next day. I am town.-
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I KNOW, LET'S WAGON AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN TO CLAIM BEFORE DEADLINE HITS, THEN LYNCH WHOEVER WE HAPPEN TO BE ON AT THE TIME.armlx wrote:Sigh, another testable claim, though this one is cheaper if he is scum and more expensive if town.
Unvote, Vote Cream
This is a setup designed to make massclaim ineffective. This is D1 and we've had three fullclaims. This is thus a bad thing.
At this point, whether claims are "testable" or not doesn't matter. It's whether or not they're believable that's important. Also note that all of the claims so far could just as easily be anti-town.
To sum up:
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Yoshi (Pro-town rolename) -> Vote nullifier (Could be pro- or anti- town)Riceballtail wrote:How the heck do you think Yoshi is anti-town? You could be delicious tonight SSF.
Yoshi nameclaim could easily be a substitute for, for example, Piranha Plant.
Remember, I'm not saying it's likely, but I'm making sure that everyone knows it's a possibility.
It's like Speed.Alabaska wrote:Ohh the suspense…
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It's a fairly plausible scum role if you take into account that, as a scum, the fact that Yoshi can only nullify scum votes is BS. Being able to nullify town votes is quite a useful scum ability.iamausername wrote:We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.
We don'tarmlx wrote:No reason to lynch confirmable townies when there are still other suspects.haveany confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.-
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I CLAIM "SOMEONE WHO CAN RECEIVE COINS". GIVE ME A COIN TO PROVE THIS, AND I WILL RETURN IT.armlx wrote:
Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing at this point in the game.We don't have any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.
*receives coin*
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Ditto, but the Rogue wagon died.iamausername wrote:
OK, I can understand your position now, although I still think it's far more likely that Riceball is telling the truth than it is that Rogue is.somestrangeflea wrote:
It's a fairly plausible scum role if you take into account that, as a scum, the fact that Yoshi can only nullify scum votes is BS. Being able to nullify town votes is quite a useful scum ability.iamausername wrote:We can also confirm two of the other three aspects of his claim easily enough (if anyone feels like wasting a coin on such). And I think the existence of a scum role that can hold no coins/items and has no vote is far less plausible than pro-town Yoshi with same.-
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It's called "Reductio ad absurdum".armlx wrote:
I don't even feel this needs to be justified with a response.somestrangeflea wrote:
I CLAIM "SOMEONE WHO CAN RECEIVE COINS". GIVE ME A COIN TO PROVE THIS, AND I WILL RETURN IT.armlx wrote:
Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing at this point in the game.We don't have any confirmable townies. We have some semi-confirmable roles. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. A bunch of people (including you, I think) thought the same thing about Gimbo and his role.
*receives coin*
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I'M A CONFIRMED TOWNIE YAY.
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...armlx wrote:
Yeah, that. It falls in that large pile of bad reasonings.It's called "Reductio ad absurdum".
This is the part where you explain why.
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Rogue Shenanigans (4): iamausername, mr. incrediball, skitzer, somestrangeflea
Phoebus (3): ashmite84, killa seven, Rogue Shenanigans
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I'm not "comparing anything to anything". I'm applying your argument...armlx wrote:Because you aren't using a reasonable, applicable comparison. You are comparing chihuahuas to wolves.
...to an absurd situation (claiming a role which can receive coins) to highlight the flaws within it.Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing [as confirmable townies] at this point in the game.
GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAHarmlx wrote:What you are doing is Strawmanning though.
*ahem*
Not true. Strawmanning is when you take a twisted form of an opposing argument and then disprove it. As you can see above, I haven't twisted your argument.-
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Alright, fair enough. You've proven that my example was flawed. (Also, I apologise for being an ass about it)armlx wrote:
Yes. That is what you are doing. He is proven to have a non-standard role, and that is good enough for now. Your argument was "the game rules work, so I must be town", mine is "the game rules don't apply to him, which is a sign his role works as claimed, and usually that is pro-town".somestrangeflea wrote:
I'm not "comparing anything to anything". I'm applying your argument...armlx wrote:Because you aren't using a reasonable, applicable comparison. You are comparing chihuahuas to wolves.
...to an absurd situation (claiming a role which can receive coins) to highlight the flaws within it.Semi-confirmable roles is the same thing [as confirmable townies] at this point in the game.
GRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAHarmlx wrote:What you are doing is Strawmanning though.
*ahem*
Not true. Strawmanning is when you take a twisted form of an opposing argument and then disprove it. As you can see above, I haven't twisted your argument.
But my argument still stands. Why should people who have had aspects of their role confirmed be seen as more likely to be town than those who have not?-
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I can see scum uses for a permanent stoppage of a players Night Choices and the removal of a Townie vote...armlx wrote:that specific ability seems very odd for a scum.
Same with perma jail.
Huh. I would say this is less likely to be true in Themed games.armlx wrote:Scum are more likely to be vanilla then town
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Visible votecount:
Rogue Shenanigans (5): iamausername, mr. incrediball, skitzer, somestrangeflea, Surye
Cream147 (4): sideney, Riceballtail, armlx, farside22
Phoebus (3): ashmite84, killa seven, Rogue Shenanigans
Riceballtail (2): TheSweatpantsNinja, Alabaska J
killa seven (2): Phoebus, goborage
Alabaska J (1): populartajo
No lynch (1): malthusis
Not voting (6): andersonw, Cream147, FaerieLord, Celebloki, DragonsofSummer, Gimbo
With 24 alive it takes 13 real votes to lynch. Deadline: June 25th, 6 PM GMT. At deadline, it takes 7 real votes to lynch.-
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Referring to RBT's claim.armlx wrote:
Did he say it removed the vote?I can see scum uses for a permanent stoppage of a players Night Choices and the removal of a Townie vote...
What with the ability for Town to buy killing items, I'd say Bulletproof is fairly useful for scum too.armlx wrote:And what about the bulletproof part?-
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I'm guessing deadline will be too soon to build up a non-Cream, non-Rogue, non-Riceball wagon. If you're crazy lucky, you'll get Phoebus!armlx wrote:SSF: I would unvote. Not sure from there.
My point is this: I don't want to run the risk of No Lynching because everyone we go to lynch claims something that might confirm them in the future. At the end of the day (which is now less than 18 hours away), we're just going to have to take a chance and lynch someone we think is scummy, despite their claim.
Surely you can see where I'm coming from?
Only if they're the last scum alive...armlx wrote:
Trading the ability to kill for bullet proof is not that good for scum.What with the ability for Town to buy killing items, I'd say Bulletproof is fairly useful for scum too.-
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I think our first port of call should be to answer this question:
Should Gimbo revive populartajo?
Y/N
I'm abstaining for the moment. The reason is the property which makes the item useful for scum. More specifically the "one interesting property of the revived player"1. To be perfectly honest, reading back over this, I'm not entirely sure why we didn't push for that piece of information. From what I can see, Gimbo and Surye agreed that it should be kept a secret and then we all moved on...
Still, thoughts, everyone?
1 Surye, post 337.-
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The point I'm making is that I find it difficult to imagine a property which makes the above statement true whilst being useful for scum. As you haven't seen the item yet, feel free to prove me wrong with some example properties.Korts wrote:It may be in the town's best interests not to announce that info publicly.
Because I expect a strong Y-vote, and I'd like everything to be out in the openGimbo wrote:somestrangeflea: why are you ability-fishing?beforeyou use the item so we know where we stand.
I see no reason why we should revive a non-town player.Gimbo wrote:SSF: how about reviving Rogue? just asking...-
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Bowser's Army and DK Crew say otherwise...Surye wrote:if I'm scum, then I would know you were town, and I would know that you'd likely just use it on whoever got NK'd.
Also Gimbo:
Why do you think we should revive Rogue?somestrangeflea wrote:
I see no reason why we should revive a non-town player.Gimbo wrote:SSF: how about reviving Rogue? just asking...-
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...Gimbo wrote:
Sry, i can't answer that, all i can say is that reviving Rogue should be made a viable optionsomestrangeflea wrote:
Bowser's Army and DK Crew say otherwise...Surye wrote:if I'm scum, then I would know you were town, and I would know that you'd likely just use it on whoever got NK'd.
Also Gimbo:
Why do you think we should revive Rogue?somestrangeflea wrote:
I see no reason why we should revive a non-town player.Gimbo wrote:SSF: how about reviving Rogue? just asking...
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If I'm right, then reviving Rogue would clue us in to the identities of his entire scum group.armlx wrote:
Meh, I still don't see why that would be a problem. Just given a scum group a recruit like that would be unreal powerful, so Gimbo would be confirmed town on balance reasons.I think that the revived player's alignment changes to that of the reviver.-
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There's at least two, so I think that's highly possible.FaerieLord wrote:I thought about it too SSF, but that'd be a bit unfair unless there's a good number of different scumgroups
Keffed.FaerieLord wrote:I think Gimbo should say the entirety of the item, now that he used it
Dear Gimbo,
I would like a full-full-full-claim. Not like these almost-nearly-full-claims we've got since Day 1. I want to know, right now, exactly what the hell is going on.
Love, Flea.
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Why? What can possibly be so special about PT now that no-one can know?Gimbo wrote:Surye, don't, and it'll be very anti-town of you to reveal. Don't fuck me over plz
He's a confirmed townie which means that he's, in all likelihood, going to be dead tomorrow. If the special property is pro-town, it doesn't matter, because he's probably dead anyway. If the special property is anti-town, we'll lynch him, then give you a metaphorical slap across the face for making us waste a lynch.
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