Grand Idea uPick [Game Over]

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Inferno

You gonna just kill a ton of town PRs again?

Oh shots

fired

[ofrhz]

So we have an IC off the bat. Interesting A50 opted into that role, most people wouldn't.
I want to open with a little game, one I haven't done in a while: Cop, Neighborize, Vig. Here's how it works. You give one unique person for each of the slots Cop, Neighborize, and Vig. Cop is for someone you doubt your ability to read well. Neighborize is for those you trust your ability to read and work well with. Vig is for people you feel like are a liability coming in. Explain if you like.
I'll start.
Cop Turin Tarambar, only name I don't recognize.
Neighborize Almost50, even barring bring IC he is a pretty good read for me and we have a good dynamic that would work well in a hood.
Vig TemporalLich, coming in I really feel like my expectations for him are super low, sorry but I'm gonna be straight here.

Cop Chennis
Neighborize gamma
So many good vig candidates in this list but I’d probably go with Dr Easy Bake

[ofrhz]

Neighborize A50 so I have at least one person I can privately bounce thoughts off and scumhunt with knowing for sure they're on my side

Also,
Do I not count? (I know I said I wasn't going to be this obvious but turns out I'm terrible at that.)

Cop Inferno390
Neighborize Gamma Emerald
Vig ofhrz

Also, VOTE: ofhrz
This ones a touch more serious.

p-edit:
Yeah, I knew to make sure to remove the vote as soon as possible and make it clear it was a joke.

Hey I’m not a liability

[ofrhz]

Ofhrz town?

Yes!

[ofrhz]

I’m loving how my “Dayvig” was counted as a vote

I cop Turin, Neighbor Gamma, and Vig

myself

Orfhz I guess

This is really starting to hurt my feelings guys

[ofrhz]

i like bandwagons
i think this should be good for info

VOTE: pisskop

I’d actually like to change my hypothetical vig target to Hectic

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Hectic

Choo choo!

[ofrhz]

Hectic is posting like he has a post restriction where he has to ask two useless questions in every other post

[ofrhz]

VOTE: pisskop
Ok...

this is scummy

I agree, actually.

Turin FL confirmed

how can you tell already it's him?

they cant, i think it was a misguided joke.

I actually think gamma is town

[ofrhz]

There's been some sort of hood claim I vaguely recall? With a NK, and two doc abilities? Yeah not buying that. I think there's a PT, but I also think it could be some sort of cult.

It does sound made up, but no, it’s a thing. I’m also in the PT

[ofrhz]

I didn’t say the PT didn’t exist
I just highly doubt it’s actually a neighborhood.
What kind of neighborhood has an NK?

Ours I guess lol

[ofrhz]

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

Yellow

alright I can believe ofrhz didn't just sell you out as scum.

VOTE: pisskop

pisskop is still scum for obvious reasons.

Wait what

[ofrhz]

beep beep Im a jeep. Or more likely a station wagon.

so I debated this internally, and decided to just claim it.


I am in a hood. We share a collective Nightkill. I am also a doctor, and we as a hood share a collective doctor. teh luls

Let me get this straight: YOU are a Doctor, AND the hood has another Doctor ability? What role(s) on the GI thread give a "hood ability"?? (Call me GI illiterate, an improves version of GI Joe)

(That was just going to be a soft that I'm in other threads. Not that ofhrz is or isn't in any threads with me.)

What the freak does she have to do with this? You're confusing me even more than if you had kept quiet.

ehehehehehehe

[ofrhz]

Man it’s hard to take this game seriously

[ofrhz]

I see 3 people (Gamma, DEB, NMSA) calling for a Tempora Vig, and I want to know why.

I also see too many people "befriending Gamma" (i.e. want to Neighborize him). Is Gamma such an easy read for you all??

Actually.. @Gamma: A50/Tempora/Rauth/Inferno/ofrhz/Hectic all want you as a neighbor. Do you think they ALL can read you well?

This is a pretty hard to read list

So relatively speaking, yeah I think so

Also I think it’d be fun

[ofrhz]

Sliver. And yeah, it automatically fills with 1/3 + 1 of the playerlist if at least one sliver is picked. Also I have no clue where our factional doc ability came from, I'm pretty sure it isn't a sliver role. (I legitimately can't find anything that can give that ability to us in Grand Idea, so maybe the mod just gave it to us for some reason?)
The role that gives us the hood and factional night kill is Muscle Sliver though.

wow that role exists

I never doubted you were town, but you have defused any chance that ofrhz sold out Inferno.

ftr, I still scumread inferno but I believe ofrhz is town now.

What does it mean to “sell out” Inferno in this case?

[ofrhz]

Spoiler:

Unlikely considering I haven’t even figured out what scumclaim you’re referring to yet

I have however noticed another claim that I find very amusing

267 really sounds like a scum PT don't you think?

No?

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

And if this isn't naked fishing I don't know what it is.

trying to make sure inferno isn't scum, of course

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

Yellow

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

Yellow

alright I can believe ofrhz didn't just sell you out as scum.

VOTE: pisskop

pisskop is still scum for obvious reasons.

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

Yellow

alright I can believe ofrhz didn't just sell you out as scum.

VOTE: pisskop

pisskop is still scum for obvious reasons.

Ohhhhh

I understand now lmao

confused nick young

[ofrhz]

alright inferno what's your favorite color?

Yellow

alright I can believe ofrhz didn't just sell you out as scum.

VOTE: pisskop

pisskop is still scum for obvious reasons.

Sliver. And yeah, it automatically fills with 1/3 + 1 of the playerlist if at least one sliver is picked. Also I have no clue where our factional doc ability came from, I'm pretty sure it isn't a sliver role. (I legitimately can't find anything that can give that ability to us in Grand Idea, so maybe the mod just gave it to us for some reason?)
The role that gives us the hood and factional night kill is Muscle Sliver though.

wow that role exists

I never doubted you were town, but you have defused any chance that ofrhz sold out Inferno.

ftr, I still scumread inferno but I believe ofrhz is town now.

I’m not following the progression here

If you were still scumreading Inferno at this point, why did you say “alright I can believe ofrhz didn't just sell you out as scum.” to Inferno earlier?

And why do you think pk is scum?

VOTE: TL

[ofrhz]

WE WANT

TO LYNCH

BINGLE!

[ofrhz]

I’m not following the progression here

If you were still scumreading Inferno at this point, why did you say “alright I can believe ofrhz didn't just sell you out as scum.” to Inferno earlier?

And why do you think pk is scum?

VOTE: TL

... because I'm saying ofrhz didn't claim scum with Inferno?

Someone can still be scum even if a supposed scumclaim is proven false.

Also pisskop really seems like himself this game... which is not a good thing.

Wait how did you originally think I claimed scum with Inferno?

[ofrhz]

Pagetop!

[ofrhz]

until my case on Rautherdir
will vote another FoS

VOTE: ofhrz

has been ignoring my points

What points

[ofrhz]

until my case on Rautherdir
will vote another FoS

VOTE: ofhrz

has been ignoring my points

What points

What are these points

[ofrhz]

You skipped over my post and decided to respond to people you were not voting for because ...?

[ofrhz]

Wait how did you originally think I claimed scum with Inferno?

because a neighborhood with a kill sounds suspiciously like a scum PT

But I didn’t say Inferno was in the PT with me

[ofrhz]

Wait how did you originally think I claimed scum with Inferno?

because a neighborhood with a kill sounds suspiciously like a scum PT

But I didn’t say Inferno was in the PT with me

... oh

I misread that then.

I still SRed inferno.

:fry:

[ofrhz]

You skipped over my post and decided to respond to people you were not voting for because ...?

didn't skip over it
just decided to respond to posts in certain order
you seem defensive

No I thought it was a little weird to prioritize shitposting over engaging with a scumread when I’m here but whatever, you responded eventually

What are these ~reasons~

[ofrhz]

i like bandwagons
i think this should be good for info

VOTE: pisskop

I’d actually like to change my hypothetical vig target to Hectic

you say this
no reason given
you don't vote me

VOTE: Hectic

Choo choo!

other people start voting me
then you jump in
very opportunistic
like a samurai seeing an opening to stab at in the armour
why you didn't stab me yourself earlier?

I hadn’t read everything yet. I probably only responded to 102 because I saw there was a new post

Hectic is posting like he has a post restriction where he has to ask two useless questions in every other post

trying to shut me down
why dislike scumhunting?

Mate how many of those questions did you actually follow up on

Although I think this is just your posting style now

Man it’s hard to take this game seriously

excuses
easy way to explain future lurking
or disengagement/non-scumhunting behaviour

there you go

Shrug emoji

If I wanted to take it seriously, I would’ve asked for a balanced game in the signups thread

[ofrhz]

LOL this game

[ofrhz]

at symbol ofhrz:
hmmmmm
can only take your word for two of those
i have engaged plenty?
also add recent defensiveness when i voted you as a reason
also why you not respond to my initial point about you and Spam?
when you first said not taking the game seriously i mean

Yeah I eventually decided you’re probtown and moved my vote off of you

Idk I came into this game not taking it seriously but there’s no way for you to verify that

[ofrhz]

If I had known about the Pikachu role, I might’ve picked it just for the lulz

It’s hilarious

[ofrhz]

Bingle hasn’t said anything, which is kind of interesting

And a50 you’re thinking of greatest idea mafia

[ofrhz]

Oi

[ofrhz]

Gamma Emerald
Inferno390
Rautherdir
TemporalLich

These are my Town reads

Why do you townread temporal?

[ofrhz]

There is a flat 25% chance for any one hood slot to be given to scum as per the role somebody drew.

No that’s not my understanding of how the hood works

The hood members can be any alignment, Town isn’t guaranteed to have a majority or even a plurality

[ofrhz]

We were selected by RNGesus

[ofrhz]

Ive got a theory that gobbles is scum, and ofrhz may be too. thoughts?

Didn't see anything post vig to support. Not sure I could tell with gobbles. What's the thought with Sgt. Angle?

Quiet in our hood, being what I feel is purposely obtuse, part of the spam push about the same time gobbles started up.

... how am I being purposefully obtuse

Also the spam push wasn’t for inactivity - it was because he had posted in the PT but not in the game thread

[ofrhz]

it was because he had posted in the PT but not in the game thread

why is that something to 'push'?

I thought it was interesting

[ofrhz]

VOTE: chennis

[ofrhz]

hi scum how are you doing?

You have an uncanny knack for beetlejuicing

[ofrhz]

If we lynched a jester, would the game end right away or continue?

Kind of think there’s a chance chennis is a jester

[ofrhz]

Did anyone put anything cult related in their 5 options?

Why ask this

[ofrhz]

At some point I have to read this game and make opinions.

For now I just think that TL/Hectic is not TvT

Why, Pikachu?

[ofrhz]

shotgun readlist because I'm way overdue:

town - A50 (obviously), GE, Rautherdir
townlean - gobble, ofrhz, DEB
null - Inferno
scumlean - NMSA, Kid, pisskop
scum - hectic, Turin

these are bad. like blatantly bad. Like Stepford Wives bad.

I actually don’t think this is that bad

Which ones do you disagree with

[ofrhz]

Turin being scum, nmsa without explaination, inferno being null, gobbles, ge

What are your reads on Turin and nmsa?

[ofrhz]

What is Stepford Wives

Some creepy movie

[ofrhz]

Turin being scum, nmsa without explaination, inferno being null, gobbles, ge

What are your reads on Turin and nmsa?

poe scum and using their meta to hide/lazy

Who else is in your Poe?

[ofrhz]

Actually a better question is- how did you arrive at Poe scum for turin

[ofrhz]

I didn’t pick any cult cards

[ofrhz]

I did my best to not get town, but alas I failed. I chose two cult roles. I ended up getting the only town role I submitted. I can confirm this overnight.

Probtown

[ofrhz]

PoE as in ' they can be scum because it adds pressure and I have no reason to not think so.

Its a convenient bin.

Yeah it is

Poe implies you have a lot of townreads which I don’t think is true of you

[ofrhz]

so i read Lichy's last GIM game
and wow
revelation hit me like a ton of bricks
and i mean

bricks

not a ton of feathers
and i know a ton of feathers is the same weight
but feathers are softer
so it was more like a ton of bricks
because bricks are really hard usually

anyway
Lichy's scummy tone and naked reads and weird takes?
exactly the same as that game
the bus thing was hilarious btw
apologies my friend Lich
come join the Pasture of Friends
mind your head in the way in
gobsie was angry when she left so she left a boulder there

Lol this is town

[ofrhz]

I mean, I guess we should double check?

@MOD: Is Cult of Dog in this game?

With this we'll get a dog or no answer

I, the game moderator, lack the physical ability to make it publicly known the existence or non-existence of any specific set of abilities and alignment, until I, the game moderator, am required by my obligations as the game moderator and the set of rules that converge to create the game known as mafia, to reveal critical information regarding the private message a person actively participating in this game has received from me, the game moderator, informing them of the specific set of abilities and alignment they possess and when that specific set of abilities may be used, at the very start of the game known as mafia, until the particular person in question is no longer able to actively participate in the game known as mafia, due to a simple majority of players agreeing during the phase dictated as "day" to prevent said player from actively participating, or a smaller group of players who know each other's identities actively choosing to prevent said player from actively participating during a phase dictated as "night".

Tl;dr

[ofrhz]

Did anyone put anything cult related in their 5 options?

Why ask this

hey gobs

Why ask gobs this
I think it' a pertinent question

Seemed irrelevant but apparently he’s getting reads out of t so I guess not

[ofrhz]

Im torn on inferno.

I am always surprised when people hold some genuinely .... nuanced idea and run away with it. And I usually go back and forth on it. "I mean, scum wouldnt do that, right?"

What nuanced idea


The cult thing?

[ofrhz]

Uh ok I don’t really get it still but aside from any cult-specific talk, I think your play is kinda scummy

I’m still not sure what a Poe scum read is in this context

[ofrhz]

I usually say I have a Poe scum read if

Let’s say there’s 3 scum in a 13p game and I have 10 townreads or something

Everyone who’s not a townread is Scum

Is that your definition of Poe scum?

[ofrhz]

Well, let's say you don't.


Does my previously saying turin isnt a good wagon/lynch mean anything in that context? Does my defending spam conspicuously mean anything? Does it seem contradictory?

why wouldn’t Turin or Nmsa be good lynches

Is the part I don’t get

[ofrhz]

Everyone who’s not a townread is Scum

Is that your definition of Poe scum?

it works, but usually I avoid using the term late game, unless I need to use it in a solve, and the poe read is never my priority lynch. Its a wishy-washy term that avoids a real committal. I have a huge preference for people to make hard reads on people, especially later on.

Oh, I think you just use poe scum to mean nullreads you wouldn’t resist a lynch on

[ofrhz]

Turin has no content - its essentially a cop out lynch.

Spam is play specifically to their meta - its better described as a policy if we go there.
Though in spam's case we could probably squeeze out content from them we could also gut them tomorrow if they dont play, and I find people trying to actually shift the focus off of the content producers today kind of iffy.

Im not really that confident in scum!TL though

Ive said this in the sliver pt but I’m really conflicted about TL

[ofrhz]

Wb

[ofrhz]

Gobbles chance of being cult tomorrow is pretty high

[ofrhz]

I don’t think mafia/cult would have lied about their picks because they can just be cheeky and argue they got a role from a different card

But I like the analysis on temporal

[ofrhz]

Gamma is my only townread from the TL wagon

VOTE: NMSA

[ofrhz]

Can everyone not voting nmsa explain why or vote him?

[ofrhz]

He’s being replaced

[ofrhz]

I think it's because people wanted to hop off my wagon

then I guess people should hop back on.

Why?

[ofrhz]

Also I don’t see anyone on the TL wagon addressing the reasons that hectic and gobble have made for a town!TL

[ofrhz]

Oh hey, I can actually browse the site now. Ofrhz asked why people who weren't voting NMSA, well, weren't voting him. NMSA's role has already been proven (not just claimed) to the slivers. (It isn't a clear cut inno or guilty, I'll say that much. But you already knew that, ofrhz) I'll wait until NMSA claims (if he does) to explain further publicly. In addition to that, I'd rather not end the day until LUV catches up, he might be able to get some informative reads that other people have missed.

But doesn’t his card mean his alignment isn’t confirmed?

[ofrhz]

I’d also support a Chennis wagon ig but I don’t really think lazy is a reason to not vote NMSA

Nmsa wanted to lynch tl fairly early in our PT when I thought it was too premature to make that call

[ofrhz]

How is it different

[ofrhz]

I'm not voting chennis just for being lazy.

Im not referring to Chennis being lazy, I was referring to NMSA wagon being called “lazy”

In any case, I don’t really think it’s a lazy wagon

yea i think its a lazy lynch

[ofrhz]

I believe that would be the implication of a confirmed role not being a confirmed inno or guilty.

Right so why wouldn’t we vote for him again?

[ofrhz]

Prod received

[ofrhz]

Errr inferno hasn’t posted in 10 days so I’m not going to stick around waiting for a claim

VOTE: inferno

[ofrhz]

I think I hammered

[ofrhz]

Nice

[ofrhz]

Yes we shot chenn

4 voted for his timely demise

[ofrhz]

This is a prodge

[ofrhz]

Gamma are you scum?

[ofrhz]

VOTE: gamma

[ofrhz]

Oh shit, pisskop was scum

[ofrhz]

VOTE: NMSA

Shifting to here because while

Gamma Emerald

may be guiltied cult, he still has the potential of turning himself town.

pedit: you realize there are ungated Deathproof roles right? We'd need a Strongman.

NMSA can only be town or mafia

And I doubt he was mafia with chennis

[ofrhz]

Yes but NMSA’s claim is hard to fake considering he has to be a sliver

He is 75% town, 25% mafia

[ofrhz]

I shot Ofhrz.

Dude

[ofrhz]

No one claimed the pk kill yet? That probably came from scum

We’re also missing the shot on gobbles, which almost certainly came from scum

[ofrhz]

Why are the slivers scummy?

[ofrhz]

Why was no one revived n1? Has that been explained yet

[ofrhz]

Hectic can you claim?

[ofrhz]

Kid trying to frame people from the dead PT. That’s next level

[ofrhz]

Now what did he say?

[ofrhz]

Oi dead people, stop trying to get me lynched

[ofrhz]

How am I guiltied Mr. Lich?

[ofrhz]

It would work provided I’m outvoted in the PT

[ofrhz]

Why was no one revived n1? Has that been explained yet

Maybe PK didn't like the players/their roles? I mean, he only has 2 options.

@Mod: Was gobbled killed by the shot at night or was he mod-killed because of the mod-error?

So, Slivers didn't shoot gobble? And the certainly didn't shoot PK. And gobble says he shot ofrhz, so we either have a protective (of unknown alignment) or ofrhz is one one form or another of BP (also of unconfirmed alignment), and we have 2 killing roles on the lose (aside from the Slivers kill) and at least one of them is anti-town.

And -in addition to all this mess- I am no expert AT ALL in GIM and what roles may be on that thread (8k+??) that could turn Gamma back into a townie, so I guess I'll have to wait and see.

I was bp last night yeah

[ofrhz]

Cult that can't recruit are pretty much survivors, yes?

I dunno how it works here. Just ask the mod.

VOTE: Gamma

I want him back in the town ranks. Slivers should shoot ofrhz, and if she doesn't die -again- we lynch her tomorrow.

Mod inadvertently answered this in response to another question, rn the cult has no Leader, and apparently KCC doesn't kick in after the very start so there is no real recruiting mechanism rn, the alignment change upon revival seems to be how recruiting was meant to happen.

Kcc?

[ofrhz]

VOTE: Temporal

[ofrhz]