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Okay then...
The governor shot has an advantage that Bingle didn't bring up earlier.
It gives reads. The whole process of voting for the governor shot, and then later how the person with the shot uses it, generates reads. And I believe that offsets the mechanical disadvantages of the shot.
Having said that, at this stage in the game there's only one role that could effectively use governor in this situation that can get away with claiming right now. And that would still be heavily ill-advised due to the presence of a cult. So if we do give someone the governor shot, we probably won't be doing it for mechanical reasons. And since we haven't had enough time to form good reads yet, the next strategy we could use to give the shot is to give it to someone who can be read somewhat easily to see how and if they use it in the first few days.
So I'm going to VOTE: Creature (I could be convinced into voting for DEB as well.)-
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Both of whom can be read somewhat easily?In post 281, Menalque wrote:rautherdir: we should give governor to someone who can be read easily!
also rautherdir: let's give it to creature or DEB
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Or, you know, had the sign-up thread bookmarked and noticed the title for the sign-up thread had changed to say the game was now up. That's also possible.In post 343, zoraster wrote:
I got my PM, said "oh hey, this will be fun when it starts" and then left it to chkflip to tell me when it started because I had nothing to do, no reason to engage with the game.In post 339, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Any logic to this?In post 333, zoraster wrote:Everyone who posted earlier than me is slightly suspect.
On the other hand, someone who gets a scum PM has a scum PT and is engaged with the game and waiting for it to start and thus noticed when the nonsense begins. Obviously plenty of people will see it in the Large Theme list and what not, but all equal, anyone who posted before chkflip deigned to tell us the game started gets a mild mark against them.
And I disagree that the cult recruiting the governor shot is an issue, I guess it should be clear that that slot probably won't survive very long. (And since it has a high probability of becoming cult then scum would probably shoot the slot at some point.)
To be clear whoever gets the governor shot is the day 5 lynch if they last that long and cult isn't already accounted for. (Exact day adjustable depending on the number of night kills we end up having at night and whether or not there's an early cult leader death. But yeah, as zoraster said, this is a 40 player game. We can afford a one-shot governor, especially if it allows us to create reads and start discussion before getting into day 1. Suggesting otherwise isn't necessarily alignment indicative considering that it's probably the mechanically correct choice, but I don't think it's the correct choice with all things considered.)-
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So, you're asking everyone who isn't scum to vote themselves for governor? I mean, that would be nice if it worked.In post 727, KidAmn wrote:I'm voting for the only person I know is town. I encourage everyone else to do the same.
Although I'm going to vote for you now for the simple reason of 'we were werewolves together last game'
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And?In post 823, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If you guys want you can vote me Governor as I have a confirmable Day Ability.
It isn't day yet.
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^ Or do you mean that once a quarter of the playerlist is voting for a player you can get them lynched? Because if so then the governor shot is to prevent you from quick-lynching someone.In post 834, Rautherdir wrote:
And?In post 823, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If you guys want you can vote me Governor as I have a confirmable Day Ability.
It isn't day yet.
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So... your ability allows you to turn L+1 and up into L-0 ???-
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Thing is, there is a reason for town to use the governor shot now. If a player gets lynched when majority didn't want it we can stop the lynch with it.In post 848, Vorkuta wrote:What if I were to make a deal and promise to never use my governor shot?
Would that convince some in the "non-voting" block to join me?
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I'm not sure. As I mentioned before, until now the mechanically correct choice was to throw the shot away. With vote-manipulation abilities being confirmed, that's no longer the case. But I'm not sure how to read players who advocated for no shot. It's possible one of them has a vote manipulation ability, or maybe they were just doing the correct-at-the-time choice.
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Hahaha no. I'm not going to read all 39 slots. I will read players that interact with me and that I know from experience how to read, but I won't begin reading all players explicitly until day 3 or 4 probably.-
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And a good action for scum to do would have been to advocate for the no governor shot... Which is annoying because I previously thought advocating for that was purely NAI.In post 876, Nero Cain wrote:
this.In post 845, Rautherdir wrote:That probably means there are other vote-manipulation abilities in existence. Which means we definitely want a governor shot to be able to react to that.
Assuming TSE is town this likely means that scum have a mirrored role or other vote manipulation roles as he said.
And of course, TSE could be scum banking on the fact that revealing the ability early would get them read as not scum.-
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Well, I haven’t really read much since my last post, so... yeah. I have read the posts made since day started though
I suppose I should clarify that before I posted the discussion so far was ‘Let’s get rid of the no gov shot as quickly as possible’ and it would be easy for scum to slip under the radar. Bingle immediately stifled any discussion on that matter, and from what I have read is still espousing misinformation regarding, for example, the Cult Q&A; and is using it to make reads on players. This is not a good trait for someone who is also trying to control the town.
VOTE: Bingle-
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A: Your first point makes no sense. If I was concerned about how people would see me I would have just voted no gov. But instead I took a position I could never actually justify, just so that conversation about it could be spurred.In post 2236, Bingle wrote:Spoiler: 3 post Scumread on Rauth
First of all, there's so much waffle in these posts I thought I'd walked into a Denny's. Second, he rambles on about explaining exactly why he's doing what he's doing, which makes me think he's very concerned about how people see him and not too concerned about how he sees other people. He's doing this for reads, apparently, but when I've repeatedly asked for people to explain how the existence of a governor gives reads he's been silent. (And yes, this conversation has given the opportunity to read people, but no more than a normal D1 would. And it's certainly caused a lot more thread apathy because of people sitting on their hands doing nothing waiting for the real game to start.)
As soon as he receives pushback on the idea, he drops it with a "I guess I can see what people think of my idea." Unvoting at L-20. Which shows a real commitment to using it as a mechanic to scumhunt.
Further, as soon as zor comes in with a similar sentiment, he jumps right back into the same thing, but the tone isn't "I believe this thing" but rather "Look, someone else believes this thing! I'm not SCUMMY!" And even still, while blatantly hiding behind zor's agreement, he feels the need to defend himself from zor's thought that people who joined the thread early were more likely to be scum.
tl;dr, quickhammer no governor so we can lynch this.
B: That was specifically regarding voting Creature for governor.
C: Try 'Please stop scum-reading this person who believes a similar thing.' And the first part of that third post was just me refuting that stance because it isn't exactly a solid argument. You know, interacting with people, helping them see the flaws in their logic.-
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Hmm, not sure I agree with this. Then again I only skimmed Amrun's iso. I would probably place her in the 'can sort later' bucket, not the 'lynch now' bucket.In post 2649, Menalque wrote:
Lots of posturing and trying to look like she’s doing something without really doing much of anythingIn post 2642, AaronFrost wrote:I mean sure? I don't really see why Amrun is obv scum though but I'm not necessarily opposed to the wagon.
VOTE: Amrun
Quite a lot of empty posting in her ISO-
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Okay, parts of that definitely aren't great. They aren't lynch-worthy either though.
Also, specifically starting it with 2353 when I had just made 2652? Really?
Honestly what annoys me most about Amrun's ISO is that it's hard to tell what or who she's talking about sometimes. But I'm not sure that's something scum would risk.-
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Voting someone for governor wasn't a popular opinion at the time you did it.In post 2662, Menalque wrote:
Err excuse u I was the most popular vote before FF took away our democratic rightsIn post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.
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To clarify my stance on Amrun since Menal seems to think I haven't given it already, at no point am I going to say that Amrun is probably town today. (Barring something unforeseen happening)
My read on Amrun is very much 'will be able to sort later' right now. If Amrun is scum I doubt she will be able to keep up this posting style.-
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So, you didn't notice that the title for the thread had changed from pre-day election to D1?
Even if Amrun can keep up this posting, she just grows more readable as time goes on if she continues posting. If she is scum it will become obvious sooner or later. I don't think it's obvious at the moment.-
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11 with TSE here. Which means anyone voting TSE needs to somehow get 10 more votes then they otherwise probably would.In post 3515, Creature wrote:I suppose getting 21 votes must be pretty hard
And honestly, with this many players and this little time, sheeping is inevitable. (And if Flavor Leaf actually is Jester then at least I'm not sheeping scum per-se.)-
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In order of what I believe to be most likely to what I believe to be least likelyIn post 3533, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Nice take, feel inclined to agree but not sure yet.In post 2660, Rautherdir wrote:Menal is... interesting. He took the unpopular and very attention-getting action of voting himself for governor and did it quite seriously. I see Menal as being less likely to be group-scum right now, but maybe 3p or cult leader.
Could you go into the equity of that behavior for town, groupscum, 3P, and Cult?
3p<survivor>: Survivor won't really be worried about the negative aspects of the governor shot for town. I see Menal being survivor as being about equally likely as being town.
Town: Town could also go for the governor shot, just because they can. It really isn't the best play for town to seriously go for, but it's something a town player could do.
3p<sk>: A serial killer doesn't have a particularly good reason to get the governor shot, however when Menal first voted himself for it he was under the assumption he could govern his own lynch, which a sk would want to have.
Cult Leader: It's a bit of a gambit to go for the governor shot as cult leader, it's a move that could get you killed by scum, or it could get you left alive by scum. Avoiding getting lynched for it might be difficult, but since cult leader can just recruit the people that would prove influential to whether that happens or not it isn't anywhere near impossible. In addition, I don't know if many people would know how to best play cult leader, saying that it isn't the best play for cult leader might not mean very much if Menal doesn't actually know how to best play cult leader.
Group-Scum: Maybe. But personally I believe most group scum at that point in time would instead either not vote someone or vote no governor.
People can point to statements Amrun made and claim she said something she didn't. It is a playstyle thing in reality, I would just expect a scum-team to coach her out of it.In post 3534, Gamma Emerald wrote:
How is being vague with people discussed a risk?In post 2666, Rautherdir wrote:Okay, parts of that definitely aren't great. They aren't lynch-worthy either though.
Also, specifically starting it with 2353 when I had just made 2652? Really?
Honestly what annoys me most about Amrun's ISO is that it's hard to tell what or who she's talking about sometimes. But I'm not sure that's something scum would risk.-
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You know lie detector can work with groups, right? So you could post a list of people and ask if they're all the same alignment. Or if they need to be dead for town to win. That would work better, actually, in case there's a survivor or similar.In post 3737, Bingle wrote:
^lie detector fodder, not a claim. I’m willing to make the same statement about any other slot on request.In post 3728, Bingle wrote:I know that Nero Cain is unaligned with me.-
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EBWOPIn post 3747, Rautherdir wrote:
You know lie detector can work with groups, right? So you could post a list of people and ask if they're all the same alignment. Or if any of them need to be dead for town to win. That would work better, actually, in case there's a survivor or similar.In post 3737, Bingle wrote:
^lie detector fodder, not a claim. I’m willing to make the same statement about any other slot on request.In post 3728, Bingle wrote:I know that Nero Cain is unaligned with me.-
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Actually, this wouldn't work unless you are cult or scum. Since there is a cult, then even if you had a cop investigation on someone you wouldn't be able to tell if that investigation was still valid (And thus wouldn't know if that person is still aligned with you or not).In post 3728, Bingle wrote:I know that Nero Cain is unaligned with me.-
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Lie detector can only really work on scum this game. Town can only reliably claim information about their own role. Scum would know other people's roles, but only if they're fellow scum or not. Since there's a cult then scum can't say whether or not a non-fellow is town or not. So...
How about everyone claims a list of 9 other slots that they know they are not aligned with. This is meant for scum, after scum flips the lie detector can test that post to either get 9 confirmed not scum or a pool of 9 players that definitely have scum in them. It does not help catch cult, since lie detector only tests the truth of the statement when it was made.
I guess I'll go ahead and start.
I know that none of these slots are aligned with me:
01 Pine
07 Korina
15 Bingle
21 Dr Easy Bake
24 davesaz
28 Hectic
35 Creature
37 Flavor Leaf
38 KidAmn
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Lie detector is basically town/not-town cop if played correctly but generally has to out early in order for useful results to be possible most of the time. And considering there's a cult so the lie detector can't really reliably confirm players as town permanently, it isn't as horrendously unbalanced as it can be in most games.
Also, Town and Cobble are synonymous for all I care about.
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Yeah, but it still confirms whether or not there's scum within a smaller list of players. Plus it probably won't be 9 players by the time it gets tested, since there will almost definitely be night-kills. Although it could also be a smaller list. Like, two or three players in the list, along with a separate statement of Town/Cobble alignment until we do get a scum flip.
Also, it's only 40 posts on day 1.
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Let me respond by asking how would you use it more then once unless you out it early?In post 3793, Formerfish wrote:
Why does he out it if he is scum? Why not take that hit and try to argue wifom?In post 3792, BBmolla wrote:
Is he the one with the ability to lynch a wagon when it’s at half?In post 3775, chennisden wrote:vork and wooper are less scummy than tse bb
Cause yeah that’s 100% a scum ability so I’m not opposed
That ability would get obvious very quickly...
(This is assuming there are other kills floating around so that scum!TSE saving it to create an unexpected LYLO wouldn't reliably work. Or if the ability is compulsive.)-
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... Considering both of those posts require information the moderator (probably) doesn't have, that would be a waste. But I like how we keep bringing up this thing when we could be talking about other things.In post 3799, BBmolla wrote:
Someone should lie detector that post that’s all I will sayIn post 3763, AaronFrost wrote:heybbmolla remember when you said this?In post 325, BBmolla wrote:This thread is moving so fast no one will notice when I say I like sleeping naked-
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I'm guessing it's either x-shot or compulsive. Either is balanced.In post 3802, Formerfish wrote:
Well, why don't we use him while we can and see what happens. Is he a one shot?In post 3797, BBmolla wrote:
For towncred “too scummy for me to claim as scum”In post 3793, Formerfish wrote:
Why does he out it if he is scum? Why not take that hit and try to argue wifom?In post 3792, BBmolla wrote:
Is he the one with the ability to lynch a wagon when it’s at half?In post 3775, chennisden wrote:vork and wooper are less scummy than tse bb
Cause yeah that’s 100% a scum ability so I’m not opposed
And to avoid lying
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Trust me, the lie detector will probably be keeping notes on posts of interest. Which does mean they have to read the game, but that's a price they should be willing to pay.In post 3771, Amrun wrote:Why are we assuming there’s a lie detector? Have I missed something?
That seems like a lot of shit to sort through on the off chance that someone is a lie detector who wants to detect that particular post.
Completely coincidentally, I will be keeping notes on these posts as well, and can keep tabs on how many of these claims have occurred throughout each day.-
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Umm...In post 3818, Miss Lane wrote:Like what affect does that have on the lie detector is there a legitimate cobble alignment?
Can you look at your role pm and tell everyone what your alignment is?
Formatted as 'I am X-aligned' or 'I am aligned with X' with nothing else in the post, please.-
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Try 'worried there are other alignments that are technically town aligned'In post 3828, Pine wrote:
Suspicious af/coaching.In post 3826, Rautherdir wrote:
Umm...In post 3818, Miss Lane wrote:Like what affect does that have on the lie detector is there a legitimate cobble alignment?
Can you look at your role pm and tell everyone what your alignment is?
Formatted as 'I am X-aligned' or 'I am aligned with X' with nothing else in the post, please.
Because I was already worried about that. The phrasing in my role pm was a bit weird about alignment.
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Post 1 had a presumably town flip that was Cobble Aligned. Most of us have already posted that we are Cobble Aligned. That does not mean that every town-aligned player is also cobble-aligned.In post 3837, chennisden wrote:Also like... post 1 includes that town = cobble aligned so it doesnt mean anything if someone doesnt know
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Actually, Miss Lynch if you could also confirm if your wincon is a standard 'win when all threats to town are eliminated' or similar? Just a 'my win condition allows me to win with town' or similar would be great. That would be better to check instead of just checking to see if you are aligned with death.
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Miss Lynch didn't claim not town. Miss Lynch claimed not Cobble. My win condition does not say to eliminate all threats to Cobble, it says to eliminate all threats to town. There's obviously a difference.In post 3851, Formerfish wrote:
Yeah, you don't get to not talk about it now. You specifically just claimed not town and my wincon says I win when all anti town forces are defeated.In post 3846, Miss Lane wrote:The flavor talks about a nearby town called "Cobble." I guess I was supposed to extrapolate that?
I win when specific people are dead in a specific way. I'd like to not talk too much more about it.
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Well at the very least you could make a post containing 'I am cobble-aligned' and nothing else unless you're benevolent 3p.In post 3915, Chemist1422 wrote:anything interesting going on in here or can I keep prodging until I have nothing better to do-
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A) Yeah, you're absolutely correct in that I had no idea how it actually works. It's not like I've ever had Lie Detector in a game with me before.In post 4069, KidAmn wrote:
A) this doesn't work how you think itndoesIn post 3769, Rautherdir wrote:-snip-
B) thanks for scumclaiming if you know you're not aligned with me
VOTE: Vote:Rautherdir
Soul read was correct
B) I was making an example list specifically composed of players I've played games with or players who moderated a game I was in. The entire point of the list was for a lie detector to check after someone flips scum, to prove whether or not the list was correct. The list posts made by town wouldn't be helpful though, as you did (semi-)correctly note that only scum would know who is and isn't aligned with them. But it isn't like scum would do these lists voluntarily, so everyone would have to do it to force scum to either follow along or be notably outstanding. The catch is, there are roles that would allow town to know the alignments of other players. Full cop, for example. There are also roles that would know or could reasonably assume that there are no other players aligned with them, but not be scum, in this game most 3rd party roles will probably count as that. I guess the final point is that I was trying to figure out the best way to use the lie detector power.
C) (to Bingle) Quotes are fine as long as they are unaltered. You're basically saying 'This person said this' so as long as that is actually the case (it's unaltered) it would evaluate as true.-
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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... Don't you mean "Blue" not "Green"?In post 4081, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Hopefully your opinion on me changes in the future.In post 4075, Pink Ball wrote:
Notice this. I wanna playIn post 3984, Pink Ball wrote:And last but not least.
TSE is still scum but I agree with Bingle, we could leash his power for today.
So let's play a game people: inspired by the one and only, the tree we all love and hate, Mr. Pine himself, I'm giving my vote to the best offer I get. This will be revoked if the winner asks me to vote for one of my 24 townreads, that's the only exception I'm making. Be creative!
As my rolecard is “Blue” not “Red”.
Green was the flipped scum color.-
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I mean, considering how rare day actions tend to be I would say 'more then 1' is a bunch.
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Double voter is usually triggered, not day.In post 4093, Iconeum wrote:
DayvigIn post 4092, Rautherdir wrote:I mean, considering how rare day actions tend to be I would say 'more then 1' is a bunch.
Double voter
Gouvernor
Daycop
Gladiator
Vengeful
Just to name a few
Vengeful is also triggered, not day.
How rare are the rest of those? Dayvig is the only one I hear about regularly. Or Desperado.
p-edit
Had a Desperado shoot a Friendly Neighbor in my last game. Though to be fair said Friendly Neighbor was... not exactly immediately believable until after that shot.-
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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If by correct you mean proven wrong, then sure.
Anyone voting me should probably be voting RCE instead if they're serious.
(Honestly not sure if scum would make a push on me for that reason though)
Also, not going to be sheeping Flavor Leaf anymore. Probably sheep Bingle after he moves off of TSE. Or maybe 37 people alive is low enough to figure this out myself, who knows.-
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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Does night flavor not have any hints?In post 5118, Vorkuta wrote:In post 5094, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why are you asking us what YOU did?
K let me rephrase
WHO did Iinappropriately touchdo stuff to during night time?
Reminder that the 'who' part is RNG'd-
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Rautherdir he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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If the second part is also talking about me, then please realize that other then voting Flavor Leaf for claiming 3p, KidAmn has only been voting me, and hasn't really contributed very much. KidAmn is locked onto me and I'd rather they actually look at other people instead of voting in the same place nearly all the time for no reason other then a soul read.In post 5157, Cephrir wrote:It was a shame to see several of us ignoring the evidence indicating Rautherdir's innocence.
I still thought we should get rid of the boastful guy, and not at all due to the Drew flip. That wasn't where he'd shown his true colors. He'd said suspicious things the previous day, and now his threats to the integrity of the game were proving a distraction. Plus, at the end of the day, I just plain didn't like him and wanted him off the case.