Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:06 pm

The y-axis on Yoda's graph doesn't even break double digits but you're completely silent about him. Why is that?

p-edit: Nevermind, you now have.

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:55 pm

In post 3298, chennisden wrote:because scum have incentive to vanillaize a doctor if they have said doctor (esp if N1 there's no vig shot).

Do you think scum would actually vanillaize their own Doc instead of just lying and saying he was vanillaized?

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:00 pm

What does the Pisskop kill have to do with scum potentially vanillaizing their own PR?

Alchemist21 · Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:48 pm

Explain.

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:41 am

In post 3319, gobbledygook wrote:Reading through Alchemist’s iso, I think he is scum.

VOTE: Alchemist

In post 3321, gobbledygook wrote:I think that Alchemist is a much better town player than the player that I see in this game.

In post 3322, Alchemist21 wrote:Explain.

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:56 am

The latter. What do you think you’re seeing differently this game?

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:26 am

In post 3335, gobbledygook wrote:A lack of critical thinking.

I find that answer vague and unconvincing.

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:48 am

In post 3353, Blatant Scum wrote:Does anyone think that voting Alchemist is a bad idea?

I do.

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:41 am

In post 3361, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 1186, Titus wrote:
In post 1183, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1182, Blatant Scum wrote:I am Kiko Loureiro, guitarist for Megadeth since 2015.
I am a Doctor and a part of this game's Uninformed Majority.
I believe this

VOTE: pisskop
We aren't doing pisskop.

I have mod confirmation Pisskop is town.
Alchemist, this is why you are not critically thinking. You investigated pisskop despite Titus saying this. Then, when you pushed Pisskop on it and he reciprocated those crumbs, you continued your push. You are not this thickheaded to realize that Titus’s comment, pisskop’s reaction, and your result make it more likely that Titus and Pisskop were masons. Any two of those three factors would give someone pause. Any two of those three would make it more likely that Titus and Pisskop were masons. In my humble turkey opinion, you pushed despite clear indications that Titus was telling the truth and that they were masons. That is issue with you. That is why I think you are displaying a lack of critical thinking.

There have been recent games where people just fake Mason claims to the point where if someone says something like what Titus said I don’t automatically trust it.

I also kept asking Pisskop if he would reciprocate Titus’ hard Townread on him and for a while he wouldn’t. Why should I have interpreted that as 2 Masons?

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:38 am

Wtf

You were already voting me.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:01 am

Drew for sure. Maybe BS.

I still can’t see scum vanillaizing their own double voter so I don’t think it’s Yurkin.

I’m sure the quickhammer will come sooner or later at this point.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:51 am

In post 3413, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3408, Alchemist21 wrote:Drew for sure. Maybe BS.

I still can’t see scum vanillaizing their own double voter so I don’t think it’s Yurkin.

I’m sure the quickhammer will come sooner or later at this point.
What do you think of Yurkin’s comment when he voted you?

The “let’s end this” comment or the Townsided setup comment?

The first I can understand. This Day does feel like it’s being a bit dragged out at this point.

The second one, I can’t say how balanced the setup is until we see the scum roles.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:24 am

In post 3447, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3440, Titus wrote:
In post 3438, gobbledygook wrote:The fact that the guilty hasn’t been discussed more is also interesting..
We've been discussing it for like 20 pages
I dunno. It might be because I’m a emotional player, but I would be spouting Drew is scum/Alch is scum every second I could if I was in their position. I am beginning to think it was a bungled gambit between the both of them. But I mainly am getting hung up on pride and not wanting to be wrong about this today.

I’ve already stated the guilty on Drew. I hate repeating myself like a broken record.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:25 am

In post 3450, chennisden wrote:Agh I wish you didn't do the guilty in the hood

Why?

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:29 am

In post 3458, chennisden wrote:
In post 3455, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3450, chennisden wrote:Agh I wish you didn't do the guilty in the hood
Why?
Because I can't parse it because I can't read it

I claimed it to Titus in private and offered to withhold it from the main thread to get more info. I really don’t get how people see that as scum going for the final mislynch; it’s far too passive.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:40 am

In post 3472, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3465, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3458, chennisden wrote:
In post 3455, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3450, chennisden wrote:Agh I wish you didn't do the guilty in the hood
Why?
Because I can't parse it because I can't read it
I claimed it to Titus in private and offered to withhold it from the main thread to get more info. I really don’t get how people see that as scum going for the final mislynch; it’s far too passive.
Who do you think are Drew’s teammates?

There can’t be more than 1 scum between you, jj, and chennis or I would have been quickhammered.

So Yoda, BS, then 1 of you 3.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:45 am

In post 3475, Titus wrote:
In post 3469, jjh927 wrote:immunity to kill by any form including lynch is deathproof
He played consistently with it though. You didn't.

I’ve already had my role verified when I claimed my result on Pisskop. Drew could claim any role that got vanilaized.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:49 am

In post 3478, Titus wrote:
In post 3476, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3475, Titus wrote:
In post 3469, jjh927 wrote:immunity to kill by any form including lynch is deathproof
He played consistently with it though. You didn't.
I’ve already had my role verified when I claimed my result on Pisskop. Drew could claim any role that got vanilaized.
No. Your role wasn't verified with your result at all. It was easy to fake.

Drew could claim any role, but he's consistent. You weren't.

I knew Pisskop had a PT coming into D2. How is that not verified?

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:02 am

In post 3486, Titus wrote:That's speculation but the fact is you knowing pisskop had a PT or not is a sideshow. It doesn't prove PT or Traffic Analyst.

So you think I just claimed a guilty on D2 as scum because lol?

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:03 am

In post 3497, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3496, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3486, Titus wrote:That's speculation but the fact is you knowing pisskop had a PT or not is a sideshow. It doesn't prove PT or Traffic Analyst.
So you think I just claimed a guilty on D2 as scum because lol?
This is all just WIFOM dude.

You can’t just dismiss everything as wifom and not consider it.

You’re probably scum anyway so whatever.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:07 am

In post 3500, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3498, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3497, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3496, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3486, Titus wrote:That's speculation but the fact is you knowing pisskop had a PT or not is a sideshow. It doesn't prove PT or Traffic Analyst.
So you think I just claimed a guilty on D2 as scum because lol?
This is all just WIFOM dude.
You can’t just dismiss everything as wifom and not consider it.

You’re probably scum anyway so whatever.
Why do you think I’m scum?

Because you’ve constantly bee all over the place, and every time a point has been made to show I’m Town you find a way to dismiss it. You’re tired of waiting to quickhammer so now you’re just putting the vote there waiting for your buddy to hammer.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:08 am

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:37 am

In post 3526, Titus wrote:
In post 3525, chennisden wrote:BS town I'm fine with, I think Yurkin is a slot that has significant potential to be scum though
He was vanillaized n1. That seems insane for scum to fake.

So does a D2 guilty.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:08 am

In post 3548, chennisden wrote:I totally empathize

The feeling that Alch is scum... but also the feeling that in feeling that Alch is scum, we're ignoring a lot of important stuff

Like the fact I cleared a Miller, which is another thing Gobble has tried to dismiss as wifom.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:37 am

In post 3568, Titus wrote:
In post 2916, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2915, gobbledygook wrote:What was Yurkin before they were vanillized? What were you before you were vanillized, Drew?
Yurkin was double voter.

I was 1 shot bulletproof.

In post 3023, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3022, Titus wrote:Alright, here's the result.

Alch has a guilty on Drew allegedly.
Unless it is from the hood with Gamma.....he is lying.
Drew claimed vanillaized before the guilty.

Alch asked if vanillaized players retained PTs. The mod said yes. If you didn't think Drew was vanillaized, there would be zero need to ask.

My questions to the mod helped me make sure my guilty was actually a guilty. I didn’t just assume he was lying until I the mod answered everything.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:51 am

Drew claimed Vanillaized shortly before I told Titus I had a guilty in our hood.

Alchemist21 · Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:54 am

That prompted me to double check my result by asking 2 things:

Do vanillaized players keep their Neighborhood PTs? (Yes)

Do players with a neighborhood with the other neighbor dead still count as being able to communicate outside the game thread? (No)

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 29, 2019 7:44 am

Good game everyone.

Alchemist21 · Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:45 am

Thanks for modding, Deb.

Alchemist21 · Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:14 pm

Metal bread for the metalhead. I like it. Congrats Drew!