Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Espeonage]

I still think this needs to die with fire.

[Espeonage]

Lynching Mario karto

[Espeonage]

Are Maki/Kaito at L-1? I'm still not 100% confident they flip scum, but I'm willing to hammer.

Yep, smack dat button.

[Espeonage]

I think the worst finishes work in about 3-4 hours.

[Espeonage]

[Espeonage]

I don't have anything yet.

Someone might have news for me though.

[Espeonage]

I gunsmithed OkaPoka and got a positive

VOTE: OkaPoka Claim pls

This may be fucking hilarious.

[Espeonage]

All my cred is gonna disappear.

[Espeonage]

I am eager to hear from Oka.

[Espeonage]

People better not have fucked with my ability btw, I am counting on this shit.

[Espeonage]

Hey y'all I got stuff.

I am going to bed.

Don't kill anyone while I'm gone. Thanks.

[Espeonage]

Oh yeah, I remembered.

Alisae killed Mario Karto in pregame bc Alisae obviously has no idea how to play scum treestump.

[Espeonage]

Ok but I am p sure Alisae lost this in pregame.

[Espeonage]

FL is looking real bad today.

POssibly just being fucking idiotic again.

[Espeonage]

I am disappointed that evidently someone fucked with me last night.

[Espeonage]

Titus should know my role by now if she did her research. I won't be getting lynched and I'd rather not have to claim to the thread.

I reckon if you go back to the 1v1 in day 1, I still feel the same that FL is worse out of Oka and him. So I am against this Oka push that happened. Would happily lynch FL or TSE. I have a few other reads but those are my two preferred lynches.

[Espeonage]

I was looking at some votes and stuff and Chemist was off everything.

[Espeonage]

Hectic doesn't look great from that either.

[Espeonage]

Did we not go over yesterday that this is a stacked player list and people need to stop waving around their giant metaphorical

dicks

BoPs and play the game like normal?

[Espeonage]

I'm vetoing FL and TSE.

bruh, that's my two biggest scum reads rn

[Espeonage]

Like why have scum not taken any attempt at low hanging fruit if TSE is town?

All of it doesn't add up, and the missing bit of the equation is that TSE is scum.

[Espeonage]

Amrun (4) Ankamius, OkaPoka, Hectic, Espeonage

If Amrun is town, one of these should be scum.

Hectic would be my go to.

I think that scum had to have slipped up at some point in voting and I think it's either Hectic or Chemist.

[Espeonage]

Vote: Hectic

I think I missed all the AF reasoning.

[Espeonage]

I think it's NAI possibly to scummy.

I think people are trying too hard to second guess things which is resulting in people giving weird ass mech reads out of nowhere which even if correct ignores the fact that either you believe someone's logic on a mech read or you don't there's no momentum to be gained and very little way to entice people on to a wagon if they don't already believe it. So mech reads at this point in the game are useless.

I'm also not the first to tell people to stop mech reading iirc.

[Espeonage]

I read oka is pretty damn town right now as well. And I have zero thoughts on Ank. So hectic makes the most sense.

[Espeonage]

Like if anyone should be making or leading mech wagons should it not be the guy that got the perfect read on Ali for the day 1 lynch.

[Espeonage]

Like that was on a knife's edge or dissolving.

[Espeonage]

*for

[Espeonage]

UB does make sense.

[Espeonage]

So we Lynch one of Chemist or RR?

[Espeonage]

UB does make sense.

What made you decide to pop in?

Uhhh, being at work. I only really play at work and it's just gone 9am. hi.

[Espeonage]

That would mean Chemist, RR and Ank would be the remaining scum team.
They are all Neighborizors.

Uhhh no. So the main premise here is that UB makes sense.

Ank was hooded by Bitmap, but Bitmap also claimed day 1. So they can't be a UB. They are refs a hooder. They could be scum but for the purposes of this they are out of the pool.

RR and Chemist both make sense as a UB. Money would be on RR actually as there is better deep wolf potential there for UB to make sense.

[Espeonage]

So we Lynch one of Chemist or RR?

Or Aaron, yeah

That would mean Chemist, RR and Ank would be the remaining scum team.
They are all Neighborizors.

TSE please stop posting for a bit

Why Aaron?

[Espeonage]

What TF

HAVE YOU DONE THIS GAME

to make you

Town

?

And this is pretty hypocritical coming from someone who used a wheel to decide his reads yesterday.

To those who think TSE is town, why? Like I'm not buying the fact that he just suddenly decided to start playing seriously especially after we had a scum flip yesterday.

I doubt both you and Chemist are both Town here.
I was going to Venge Kill Ank or Espeonage.
But I’m thinking I’ll do you instead if I get lynched and your still alive.

You don't want to venge me, I'll prove it.

[Espeonage]

The only way this gambit actually advances Alisae’s wincon is if we were wrong on both Chemist and Aaron being scum

Which is such a slim probability that I’m not even considering.

Somni, could Ali have gotten the info from RR?

Thoughts on a UB being likely?

[Espeonage]

Maki and Kaito have been lynched.

They were a

Mafia Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Alien, Neighboriser)

.

Night One begins now. This phase will end in (expired on 2020-02-14 23:00:00).

Uhhhhh, it does matter. Bc to me it looks like AF is the least likely to be scum of the three.

[Espeonage]

Maki and Kaito have been lynched.

They were a

Mafia Jack-of-All-Trades (Rolecop, Alien, Neighboriser)

.

Night One begins now. This phase will end in (expired on 2020-02-14 23:00:00).

Uhhhhh, it does matter. Bc to me it looks like AF is the least likely to be scum of the three.

Dude

The whole Flavor Leaf - Hectic - AaronFrost masonry claimed happened day 1 before spiffeh flip ok nobody believes them its a meme

?????????

My point is that we have three people, at least 1 scum in them. My argument is that a UB makes a lot of sense and that would mean that AF is the least likely to be scum bc Ali can get info from any of the three.

[Espeonage]

This is why I want to talk about UB.

[Espeonage]

look my money is on RR for mech reasons but that hypocritical of me so whatever, I'm more interested in lynching chemist.

I feel like that is also backed by voting patterns as well.

[Espeonage]

I’m not really the type of dude to enjoy mech talks and this is just a huge smoke screen. If you get yourself out of the fog, you start asking yourself why Alisae would ever do this if Chemist and Aaron were both town.

Chemist posted as soon as Alisae revealead that and instantly voted RR.

Scenarios in which Alisae claims this in order to further their wincon :

1) Chemist / Aaron / RR are all town

2) One of Chemist / Aaron is scum and RR is the town that’s getting set up

Either way, there’s gotta be one in Chemist and Aaron and it doesn’t change my reads at all.

This looks planned as fuck, Chemist was here the entire time, he just posts as soon as he gets outed? Give me a break.

This was planned to frame RR.

Besides, read my 3952, Aaron literally slipped. This is a smoke screen.

I have learnt that sticking to my reads is a lot better and I have more faith in them. The only way subjective reads get tempered is with a huge mechanical smoke bomb.

I feel like Occams says Ali fucked up, no?

[Espeonage]

oh your saying that scum inherited the joat?

That makes most sense to me.

[Espeonage]

Vote: Chemist

[Espeonage]

I'll ride that Ali has so far been predictable in eir choices so far.

[Espeonage]

Oh boy yeah lets Lynch Chemist.

[Espeonage]

Oh Titus, you dived for me. You are lovely. Thank you.

[Espeonage]

I am also against Oka being Lynched.

Disagree over Hectic and Gobbles being off the menu.
Question, does Ali pull this for a 2v1? With potential for 2 v 0 when the scum in the pack is the last alive and we all get cold feet. I don't want to let go that I think Ali has someone in that group rather than an invest.

But I will concede you are probably right that it was on purpose. That doesn't mean it is all town. I think Ali could do it on a 2 for 1. However I will leave it for today.

If I trust you completely then the Lynch is insomnia, but not sold on it. I am also not sold on this all scum have hoods narrative. Don't really want Bitmap. I think they have shown an unwillingness to piss of Titus which is NAI but safe for not lynching immediately.

Vote: Insomnia

I think this helps my night phase though so, potential upside.

[Espeonage]

Oh Titus, you dived for me. You are lovely. Thank you.

I didn't 100% dive. I guessed based on memory. I remembered feeling that game was unfair. I just couldn't remember the name either. I haven't had the time to dig exactly either. So I don't know your role.

It was. We both pretty much won the game for our teams then both lost. Felt bad. I'm not quite the same but close enough.

[Espeonage]

k

[Espeonage]

I’m actually pissed

In contrast to those 3 I’m the closest thing to an unrevealed IC

HahahhahajajajajJahahhaha

[Espeonage]

Titus how can you not like rc but like boon?

At least rc can play more than one alignment.

[Espeonage]

Also rc is less toxic. And I hate rc.

[Espeonage]

Hey Titus talk me through the sw scum theory. And in never took off and the wagon seems townish. I think if you want to believe that sw has scum equity you have to entertain that hectic is very like the only partner candidate.

[Espeonage]

Ali, just for the record, I'd be very surprised if both FL and Bitmap are town as they have the most experience with me face to face. (Well of the people playing.)

@Espy, RC can yell at people until they crack. That's not playing mafia when done deliberately. RC doesn't solve. I have zero respect for him as a mafia player. Boonskiies wins by tact, guile, and subterfuge. I respect Boonskiies.

Boon does what now?

[Espeonage]

There is no way anyone would want to play that oka

[Espeonage]

Except bitty

[Espeonage]

Anyways I want to revisit hectic scum.

[Espeonage]

Something something monkey Shakespeare

[Espeonage]

I do agree it was unnatural confidence

[Espeonage]

I would argue that sw scum only makes sense in a few scenarios the biggest if hectic is scum. Hectic has scum equity besides. Hectic should come first.

[Espeonage]

Vote: Hectic

[Espeonage]

Yo S and W.

I don't really think you two are scum. Like I think your trajectories are weird and your start of game wasn't great. But I am interested in chasing up with you about what you think is the best Lynch to break this wifom jungle we are in.

@thread: I think that we have all successfully proven that claims can be likely set aside and I think any discussion of lynching in or out of certain role related pools is going to get us nowhere but cyclical arguments. What I want to hear is arguments about play. I've seen a lot of mentions of tonal reads but not much backing evidence, so I'd like to be able to get some vision on that and see if anything resonates with me. Tone and intention are my personally best scum hunting tools so I think it's time to move back to that.

[Espeonage]

Does someone want to provide me an AF cliff notes that doesn't include meta or perceived ranges?

[Espeonage]

Does anyone have the four person compositions of the Amrun and TSE wagons from yesterday.

Bc I am p sure Oka is town and I know I am town. I honestly am trying to wrap my head around SW scum making sense and it's getting harder and harder the more I think about it. I think you need to drop it Titus.

[Espeonage]

That's the bit I can believe. But the associative are scrubbed after that. Like we get nowhere after that.

Resistance on everything at the moment means I think someone being followed by people might be scum. Which would also lend credence to S and W, FL, gobbles. But it's pure conjecture.

[Espeonage]

Well here's my AF trajectory:
-Early game he thought the thread was bloated which seemed townie because it was
-Later he strongly defended Dunn when Dunn was being heavy pushed which is ~surprising for scum

Currently my re-evaluation concerns are:
-He has very few coherent reads
-The reads he does have he flips on kinda randomly sometimes

I did like his tone early game but his solving is kinda absent

-S

That feels pretty consistent with a lot of people in the thread though. Like I've voted I think 5 or 6 different slots today. My gripe with AF right now is that hoods should sort themselves out considering we have a chain. There's almost no way they are all town. Scum in there either run the gauntlet of not being hard read or kill the town in there. If it's all scum that will becomes evident eventually.

So I'd b happy to leave AF by the way side rn.

[Espeonage]

Resistance on everything at the moment means I think someone being followed by people might be scum.

resistance on everything is because me, titus, and ank can't agree on who the day's lynch is yet

-S

??????? Titus is the only person with any conceivable sway over the thread at the moment. What a weird ass list of slots.

[Espeonage]

Gobbles is currently my top pick for scum based on gut level hibbegibbes. I'm going to be trying to reconcile that one way or the other soonish.

[Espeonage]

Resistance on everything at the moment means I think someone being followed by people might be scum.

resistance on everything is because me, titus, and ank can't agree on who the day's lynch is yet

-S

Today could have had multiple quick lynches which all got close but no cigar.

So generally that happens when either vocal scum in on wagon and not charismatic enough, or the wagon is on scum and scum aren't looking to bus. In the first case we have one or more deep wolves at the moment.

I legit think Titus' veto list is more likely to hold multiple scum than off it. But I am happy to set it aside for a bit.

[Espeonage]

Correction at the lynch deciding comment:

This day phase starts to wrap down when I get back into this game, bet.

Yes because having more votes in the thread generally leads to more lynches. You are a fucking clairvoyant prodigy.

[Espeonage]

Subject: Micro 918: Doggos Among Us [TOWN WIN]!

I agree with norwegian's 172, but I am worried about how convincing clidd is. When he shared his thoughts on the setup I saw that as NAI, any role could do that. The fact that I was already sussing Drew and then people started joining makes me

hesitant to join the wagon. If we did want to lynch Drew than I would want clidd to be the one to hammer. Right now I would have placed my vote on clidd if he wasn't already at L-2. I think part of my uneasy feeling is that you did vote for Drew rather

than me. What was the reasoning for that vote?

I think this might be indicative of a dsj/clidd partnership. The first bit looks like he's trying to distance by speaking about his hesitance towards the Drew lynch but then goes on to follow clidd's wagon on Drew despite the weak reasoning.

Not sure what this says about Drew's alignment unfortunately.

Hectic is now my strongest townread. I also realized that I have yet to play with scum!Hectic so I'm not entirely sure what his scumplay would look like

Espeonage, would you say there are a fair number of posts in aaron's iso that look ~more or less like this in terms of solving?

-S

1. I'm not going to iso dive.
2. Your argument is flawed bc someone not doing what they usually do as town does not equate to scum, it equates to null. Which we went over yesterday. Same shit different day. You being correct in the end yesterday means nothing either. There were other things wrong with the slot in the end.

[Espeonage]

I just think AF will sort out in the wash given the hoods. I'm more arguing that I think he can be set aside regardless of anything. I have him as null bc the entire thing reads like he is out of his depth which I think is both accurate and NAI.

[Espeonage]

I would say that somni is really good for gamestate unfortunately. Bc I am mostly riding Titus' coattails on that one.

Personally I like Chemist as scum outside of the claims. I think RR is getting too much lee way. I have unsubstantiated qualms with gobbles. And I dislike Hectic and FL on day 1.

[Espeonage]

Look I'm fine with Pine.

[Espeonage]

This is literally why I tried to steer away from this.

[Espeonage]

I think working in absolutes is a bit rough.

That mostly helps us to set aside the dumb neighbours are all scum shit from earlier.

Lets Lynch somni.

[Espeonage]

So you are saying my failed action last night is scum indicative. Because I'm worried about claiming on a false positive.

[Espeonage]

idk if I got off or not.

Vote: Insomnia

[Espeonage]

i think Somni!scum is very unlikely if Ank!town based on what she described from the neighbourhood

and Somni as town does tryhard more in recent games i've played with him in

I want so many more people dead than there are scum slots in the game.

[Espeonage]

vote: bitty

For good measure, sorry I've been asleep.

[Espeonage]

I've got a rolecop on Espeonage.

Fullclaim in your next post.

No, if you have my role then you know why I wouldn't. Like this is either a fake result or you an idiot.

[Espeonage]

Why didn’t anyone neighborize me. You’re all bad and game throwing

Interesting.

[Espeonage]

Its day threeeeee

Well I targeted you night 1 and nothing happened did it?

[Espeonage]

NOTHING HAPPENED AND IM VANILLA REEEE

And then gobble is being lame as well.

Legit think someone is roleblockling me all over the place.

And Pine needs to think long and hard if he really really wants to go down this path.

[Espeonage]

Ok so lets look at this. Titus and apparently Pine know my role. Titus has had me on veto for forever and I am get cucced like nothing else. P sure I can be lock town here for a bit.

You got alien'd? That explains last night.

[Espeonage]

Someone aliened me <3

uwu

Alien me daddy uwu

This entire page is probably town.

Gobbledygook could be a hidden scum, but I like him right now tbh

hahahahaha

[Espeonage]

Vote: RR

[Espeonage]

Espeonage and I are masons essentially now

My literal worst fucking nightmare.

[Espeonage]

Vote: Pine

Decided to try and logic this.
If you did role cop me, then you know my role. As a provable role with utility in remaining unclaimed you don't get me to claim.
If it's a fake result it is bonkers and almost certainly scum indicative, it's just your bad luck you decided to try it on a provable role that literally cannot be a non-town role.

So yeah die pls

[Espeonage]

TSE Alisae isn't a complete idiot to make all of the scum have the same role. They would make it so that multiple people have very similar roles tho.

[Espeonage]

non-ascetic

The fact that I have a failed action against Espe makes me highly suspicious.

I want an explanation.

I have a theory.

[Espeonage]

Unvot, Vote: RR

[Espeonage]

What are the numbers after everyone's names?

[Espeonage]

I think you got the deadline wrong btw.

[Espeonage]

@Mods

[Espeonage]

D'aww it's the cutie.

[Espeonage]

Stop ignoring me

RR is not a good lynch today because Bitmap's vote on them does not come from a partner for reasons I explained

Now get off the wagon or engage with me on this

Hey Chemist. I'm either voting you or RR. So idk if you are prepared for the non RR alternative.

[Espeonage]

RR has been scum for ages but Titus had a big fat no on it. Was my fave Lynch for yesterday. And Bitty was pretty hard going to be the Lynch towards the end of the day and it build quickly. I don't think you can get anything from that.

[Espeonage]

Idk man, Bitty put in a lot of effort to reverse pocket me and seemed lost after that didn't work.

[Espeonage]

Hey Titus, can I make a request? We Lynch RR today. I got an idea for tomorrow.

[Espeonage]

This game has taught me, you can be a lightning bolt by just being an idiot in the game thread.

[Espeonage]

Hi Chemist, I can help you with the agenda FL is pushing here.

The agenda is that FL would like to claim he carried the game in post game despite doing a net nothing this game except existing.

Welcome to playing with Bonski

[Espeonage]

It's like if you have Fate, and take away all ability to play town.

[Espeonage]

Legit, neither of those statements are true.

[Espeonage]

HI TSE.

I would like to acknowledge that we are all aware of your thoughts on the subject of Chemist scum. There is probably credence to it. I would really like to hear your thoughts on who is likely scum if you are wrong on your theory that all scum are JOATS!

[Espeonage]

there is no situation where bitmap goes "hey confirmed town titus am I allowed to push [scum buddy]"

that's only something they do if they want to be able to back out of the push post-flip

No. They can do that if they don't want to push their partner and hide behind me. That's part of the reason I try to be hands off at the start of the day.

if you say yes then they're kinda stuck though

Hi Chemist.

Bussing is a thing.

[Espeonage]

TSE, this is meant to be a fun game. If someone makes a simple request can you just accept it?

[Espeonage]

I'd also like to apologise for getting you caught in the crossfire of me ekeing out a win in the pressure micro.

[Espeonage]

You are such a deep wolf you have managed to infiltrate the turkeys

[Espeonage]

How did you know you were alien'd

[Espeonage]

That makes sense. I'm the cop.

[Espeonage]

hi

Hey, you want to confirm me?

[Espeonage]

Espe is one of my two picks for scum right now, but I'm not committing to that without checking some things first.

Oooo ok.

[Espeonage]

Hey Gobble, gonna need to you to hard claim why you know you were aliened night 2.

I will claim in full after that.

[Espeonage]

Espy, waiting on your cute puppy eyes.

It's that game, but not that role. My role in that game kinda.

[Espeonage]

Hey Gobble, gonna need to you to hard claim why you know you were aliened night 2.

I will claim in full after that.

I’m confirmed town, so I will not be indulging this request.

Gobbles is conf town, ok doesn't matter then.

[Espeonage]

I am an Ascetic Compulsive DISLOYAL Friendly Neighbour

My actions weren't failing they were innocent results. As a cop that can be confirmed town, this is a very very strong role that I wanted scum to think I could be having protection. I apologise to the game for lying.

Oka night 1.
Gobbles night 2.
Ank night 3.

I went for my biggest scum read each night, and I also crumbed the role.

[Espeonage]

This thread is now about superheroes.

friendly neighbourhood Spiderman.

[Espeonage]

I was innocent child that game

[Espeonage]

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60585

[Espeonage]

Then they aren't hitting Masons.

Basically they either spend blocks on me, or they try to shut me up so they can avoid killing me. I also made sure to be vocal about my targets if I did die and they thought I was gambling mason as well because my crumb and claims thus far fit with that.

[Espeonage]

Then they aren't hitting Masons.

Basically they either spend blocks on me, or they try to shut me up so they can avoid killing me. I also made sure to be vocal about my targets if I did die and they thought I was gambling mason as well because my crumb and claims thus far fit with that.

Doesn't claiming reduce your utility of being town? Scum would never claim to see your action now. I mean we could voyeur your target if we have another one.

yeah I'm useless now. Which is why I hesitated claiming and claimed a few tangental things through the game. But Pine forced my hand by claiming day 1 and putting stupid demands in the thread like people needing to claim ascetic.

Completely ruined how I wanted to play this game.

[Espeonage]

chemist died because we had too many roleblocks to make sense so we limited our PoE to only check on them

esp because i felt like his reaction was townie and im sure more people felt the same way its just mechanically he seemed optimal but like espy sat on info to kill chemist

he should've just outted that he can't be alien'd

Dude, look at yesterday, I literally wasn't around.

[Espeonage]

Ali, the thing is that it only works if you built the role and you only built scum roles.

[Espeonage]

Look, we Lynch outside the town pool for the moment. I will float that I never really discounted that scum may just not claim they got the info from me.

I wanted to target TSE and FL but I didn't due to them just being super fucking unreliable people in general.

[Espeonage]

Ank is a good vote for today.

-.-

[Espeonage]

Vote: Hectic

[Espeonage]

No idea

[Espeonage]

Because he was drafted by Ali for being a kewl dude

[Espeonage]

Because the mods didn't want him in the town.

[Espeonage]

Vote: AF

[Espeonage]

FL has convinced me this is where I should be voting.

[Espeonage]

Vote: AF

FL has convinced me this is where I should be voting.

Confused, FL wants Hectic?

Yep

[Espeonage]

Boon saying soul read says to me he's posting out his arse.

[Espeonage]

I haven't played any games the past few days my friend.

[Espeonage]

Soz Titus. I've been flakey recently. I'm still around but this has been not high priority.

Especially since I was expecting lynches to get quicker and quicker as the game went on, especially with such good flips so far. Like we're ahead so we should just be expending lynches and culling all of these contentious slots.

[Espeonage]

Like really we should be on like night 5 or day 6 by now. Or just the game could be over.

[Espeonage]

Flavor > RR > Pine > Ank > Gobble

Hectic, TSE, Espy should claim results whenever

And if you lied in the past come out now

Ooooo yeah results for a role that requires scum to tell the truth.

[Espeonage]

So like legit I think lynching FL and TSE gets scum.

[Espeonage]

How likely is a no kill gambit here?

[Espeonage]

-.-

[Espeonage]

I... what?

[Espeonage]

It’s legit Espeonage, FL or RR.
Anything else doesn’t make sense because all the remaining players would have had to buss.
(Except for Pine but I don’t think Pine is scum)

So you think I'm the only player capable of bussing?????

idgi

[Espeonage]

It’s legit Espeonage, FL or RR.
Anything else doesn’t make sense because all the remaining players would have had to buss.
(Except for Pine but I don’t think Pine is scum)

So you think I'm the only player capable of bussing?????

idgi

You just scum slipped.
You were never on a scum wagon.
Don’t you lie.

Hi, I was on two scum lynches.

[Espeonage]

Like sure I aggressively bus but I was defs on scum wagons my friend.

[Espeonage]

I must say, for all my want of recognition, getting it from TSE is not what I think I ever wanted.

[Espeonage]

I feel like there's a nonzero chance TSE is being this belligerent about vengeing espe because he's the last scum

Do you honestly believe I bussed?

Do you honestly think bussing would not be super prevalent in this game?

[Espeonage]

This is because I think you got shitposting coaching, isn't it?

[Espeonage]

I AM CONFUSION

THIS IS KANSAS BUT THIS IS NOT AR KANSAS. PLS EXPLAIN AMERICA, THIS IS R CAN SAW!!!?!

[Espeonage]

stop setting a timer

[Espeonage]

So I just let my last two shots go random bc it doesn't matter any more.

[Espeonage]

I got rando'd to FL

[Espeonage]

I was a plant from the start. However clever of me to not target a scum ever, lol.

[Espeonage]

tbh I am honestly surprised you didn't draft to a game plan Ali. Like there are a number of routes you could have taken that would have created different teams.

There's strong mechanical players, strong social players, and strong theatre players. You couldn't have them all, but you defs could have had a clear route to victory then tried to dictate how things would look. I think you lost it in your roles though, not your draft.

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Alisae I love playing as scum lol

Really, I thought you MUCH preferred playing town and disliked scum :/
Dam, unlucky ig

I prefer scum too.

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Alisae I love playing as scum lol

Really, I thought you MUCH preferred playing town and disliked scum :/
Dam, unlucky ig

I prefer scum too.

Ok but in sign-ups you said you wanted to be town lol

Well yeah, but I only wanted to be town if I was a mason. All of my best break the game open games have been when I have been conf town. Me as town is like average. Me as an IC or Mason is stupid strong. Otherwise town is boring bc making people listen to me is boring and draining.

[Espeonage]

tbh I am honestly surprised you didn't draft to a game plan Ali. Like there are a number of routes you could have taken that would have created different teams.

There's strong mechanical players, strong social players, and strong theatre players. You couldn't have them all, but you defs could have had a clear route to victory then tried to dictate how things would look. I think you lost it in your roles though, not your draft.

I did draft a gameplan!
I would have bitmap hood M&K and use that hood to control the game, and then once someone flips in that hood, use hood wifom to gain control of the game

?_? That would have been even worse than how the game went.

I hammered M and K because I thought there was no way you wouldn't give yourself JOATs. Like it was the only role I had no doubt in my mind you would give your team. And you expect this playerlist to not immediately snap Lynch the second hood person. Especially if both have claimed to have a hood shot. Like that is the most obvious wifom in the game. If we kill a scum, we free up a Lynch and immediately remove the wifom, and I would have been surprised if Titus didn't entertain that as a "eradicate one of Ali's potential tools" option immediately.

I also correctly assumed you would have a UB as well.

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Btw my rules were
Espe’s role obv
And nothing except anything Titus that can stop a kill or cause a kill to fail, I forgot the exact wording.

Not sure how I lost when I designed the scumteam, I have a bit of everything :/

Like I don't mean to be critical. But your role choices were terrible.

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I just think you needed a spanner in the works. Like there was no usable bait for you other than my role which was super unreliable. I just think you needed something to waste days of time for time.

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You're playing to win, not to have fun.

But like you didn't even give yourself herrings like a bunch of protections, like giving yourself strongmen with a cop and a bunch of non doc protections on town side.

Like give yourself self mechanical deep wolves. Play in to the theatre. And coach your team. Nothing is stopping you from writing your team's posts or getting someone to dictate people's stances. Which is why you give yourself someone like Hectic who is a sponge for learning things, and draft experience like Amrun, Me, Spiff.

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You also missed the trick of me and FL being scum together and COMPLETELY derailing the entire thread for multiple days.

[Espeonage]

Uxie >>>>> Mesprit >> Azelf

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I'd a scum stump just throwing it out there. Then y'all can flame me for talking shit and getting hit.

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I really want to have a go at this, ngl.

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I wanna fight the worst. Ducks v Not Ducks. I ain't afraid.

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I could beat Titus though.

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I dislike FL and I knew he was town.

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I could beat Titus though.

WOW TITUS ARE YOU JUST GOING TO TAKE THAT

If you're serious, I call dibs on the scum treestump.

Hit me up in a month.

I'd need to give it full attention and I can't right now.