revO emaG - TENET

[Firebringer]

I am also down to get this wagon on the move UNVOTE: GFITAC

thank u for assisting me with my buss

Yw king

im no king, only first citizen

[Firebringer]

who actively wants to go over atm? I am aware of superbowl

Firebringer too I think

was i premature in my townread?

yes, stop townreading me

[Firebringer]

story of my mafia career

[Firebringer]

how do u feel about other thread wanting u to be over there petapan

[Firebringer]

I think LLD, peta, FB, you guys are town. I'll trust FB on sinkhole being town. Superbowl is > rand town.

hm ok. any reasons u feel like offering? does your experience with

fb say he often has sheepworthy reads

?

-ceph

hmhmmmm

[Firebringer]

I think LLD, peta, FB, you guys are town. I'll trust FB on sinkhole being town. Superbowl is > rand town.

I'm insulted.

me too but at Ceph

[Firebringer]

I think LLD, peta, FB, you guys are town. I'll trust FB on sinkhole being town. Superbowl is > rand town.

I'm insulted.

Hi Insulted, I'm Dad.

ban this user now mods

[Firebringer]

holy shit are we having a family reunion in this thread

[Firebringer]

I think LLD, peta, FB, you guys are town. I'll trust FB on sinkhole being town. Superbowl is > rand town.

I'm insulted.

me too but at Ceph

sry i love you but it's mostly for being cute, i cant speak to your read accuracy i have no idea actually but i feel you're usually more interested in fucking around than explaining them
-ceph

fair i guess. kind of surprised a bit too. especially since ive stated i this game ive had one game experience with nora, but its definitely not like tht game imo.

[Firebringer]

ngl your avatar is so nondescript it is hard to read your posts

ngl i have skipped alot of deacons posts in this thread even when we are both posting at same time.

[Firebringer]

now i am curious, SS why do u trust my nora read?

[Firebringer]

You should trust my reads btw because they are very good. Very accurate, very well thought out. But i am curious on why u personally trust it

[Firebringer]

What if Firebringer was scum?

Then he likely wouldn't stick out his neck to hard defend you, because the scumteam would probably consider you a lost cause.

yeah i dont usually hard defend allies

[Firebringer]

What if Firebringer was scum?

Then he likely wouldn't stick out his neck to hard defend you, because the scumteam would probably consider you a lost cause.

ur saying I'm scum?

he is saying if i am scum i dont defend scumyou.

[Firebringer]

ur saying I'm scum?

My point is if he's scum then he wouldn't act this way toward you if you were also scum.

my question was would scum!him do this to town!me.

probably

[Firebringer]

i like defending townies as scum.

[Firebringer]

i like defending townies as scum.

even ones that are nearly one step away from the rope?

definitely. I like rooting for the underdogs

[Firebringer]

Noraa: at the edge of a cliff
Firebringer: saves her
Noraa: do you normally save people just to murder them
Firebringer: absolutely

strangely enough u can get alot of people to trust u by telling them they can't trust u.

[Firebringer]

Noraa: at the edge of a cliff
Firebringer: saves her
Noraa: do you normally save people just to murder them
Firebringer: absolutely

strangely enough u can get alot of people to trust u by telling them they can't trust u.

I don't trust u :O
am I special.

none of us are really special in the grand scheme of things that we call the universe

[Firebringer]

Fire follow ur script where u tell me I'm special
then I ask if u murder special people
and then u say hell yes :O

i dont like scripts. i prefer to improvise.

Ceph are u saying i am a emo anime boi

[Firebringer]

I’m not sold on sending FB, I’m just paranoid of Annie now at this point. Bell could be a decent person to send over. Cabd-FL-Bell has been a trio in a few games recently, so I think that could be a decent move.

why r u scared of sending a scum over to them?

[Firebringer]

flavor were u keeping up with the game prior to subbing in? it feels like u are situationally aware more than someone who just openned the thread.

[Firebringer]

I’m not sold on sending FB, I’m just paranoid of Annie now at this point. Bell could be a decent person to send over. Cabd-FL-Bell has been a trio in a few games recently, so I think that could be a decent move.

why r u scared of sending a scum over to them?

If I were scum, I’d want to be sent over here.

why? this thread is easier for scum to hide in.

[Firebringer]

wait if u want scum to be sent over here. Then us sending a scum over to them should be goood?

[Firebringer]

wait if u want scum to be sent over here. Then us sending a scum over to them should be goood?

I don’t really have a preference of sending anyone over or what not, but i specifically think AnnieScum wants to get sent over because she can lead more actively over there.

okay i guess fair enough.

"scum wants to go over there. so lets not give scum what they want" kind of thing

[Firebringer]

Ok so the scum team is Flavor/Annie/___ from our side ?

if u omgus everyone of ur reads im gonna stop defending u. This is fucking annoying.

[Firebringer]

naturally very annoying. Her doing it to one person is fine. Her doing it to every god damn person is just like "r u even playing the game"

[Firebringer]

Here’s the thing, scum already can be in a game with 4 scum based on throes draft lists, so if scum can get one of their 2 over, that game can hard be manipulated by scum, and the other game can have 1 scum sitting pretty like a lone wolf, which creates hard associations.

That would be the idea for me if I were scum, get sent over. Even if it’s 3-3 now, getting sent over creates that 4-2.

i dont think this is how scum are thinking tbh

[Firebringer]

firebringer is always town, he just gets a red pm sometimes

this game is a good example of this

[Firebringer]

Here’s the thing, scum already can be in a game with 4 scum based on throes draft lists, so if scum can get one of their 2 over, that game can hard be manipulated by scum, and the other game can have 1 scum sitting pretty like a lone wolf, which creates hard associations.

That would be the idea for me if I were scum, get sent over. Even if it’s 3-3 now, getting sent over creates that 4-2.

i dont think this is how scum are thinking tbh

You think a 6 man scum team wouldn’t discuss the best ways of being sent over or not, or if they even should?

They might not be thinking of the exactness of all of that, but they definitely would think about it.

no i am saying i don't think the scum thing "lets stack one game full of scum and other with no scum because that way game with no scum has no associations and we can control the scum stacked game". for one the no associations is ruined by having one game full of associations. Secondly i think scum play more passive influence than more actual pushing so i think we see scum playing differently

[Firebringer]

Aside i forgot to say this, but spiffeh is most likely town

welcome to the club

[Firebringer]

also skitter how do u think my buss of u is going? I think we are fooling them really well.

[Firebringer]

also skitter how do u think my buss of u is going? I think we are fooling them really well.

To be fair, i wanted to send you over to the other thread, and I scum read Skitter.

ur now beating ceph for my favorite user in this thread

also skitter how do u think my buss of u is going? I think we are fooling them really well.

I'll give u 8/10, keep it more secret next time

my mouth cant keep anything secret friendo

[Firebringer]

Flavor Leaf is missing the rule where if one thread loses all their scum by Night 2 or before, then that entire thread becomes modconfirmed town.

So while yes scum can stack one side, that lone wolf side is at heavy risk of blowing it for their team.

WHAT A GOOD POINT FROM MY SCUMFRIEND BRIAN SKIES.

this is why you are friends with ur enemies people. They have good insights and are very smart.

[Firebringer]

@Brian Skies - why do you not want town to be sent over? With little information like this, scum can completely abuse getting switched over.

does it even matter how many scum are where?

yes, as brian pointed out if no scum exist in one thread by night 2 we get a whole thread confirmed town.
That is important.

[Firebringer]

Flavor Leaf is missing the rule where if one thread loses all their scum by Night 2 or before, then that entire thread becomes modconfirmed town.

So while yes scum can stack one side, that lone wolf side is at heavy risk of blowing it for their team.

WHAT A GOOD POINT FROM MY SCUMFRIEND BRIAN SKIES.

this is why you are friends with ur enemies people. They have good insights and are very smart.

Nah, if there’s a scum in the thread, it doesn’t matter. Scum would have 5 others in the other thread, so they’d be able to control stuff.

Also, you missed the part I said they could be 3-3 trying to get to the 4-2.

I don’t think they’re anywhere near in danger of having that happen.

i thought u said they were 4-2 going or 5-1

[Firebringer]

if they want to go to 4-2 why not just set themselves up that wy to begin with. That doesnt make sense

[Firebringer]

okay but now ur confusing me on why they originally decided 3-3 now are like 4-2 when they could have done that to begin with

[Firebringer]

And honestly i think you're overvaluing how much scum wants to create scum-heavy threads to begin with

This.
Wow i agree with my scumreads alot lately.

[Firebringer]

@Bell Keep poking Spiffeh harder. Call him obv scum. He loves that.

[Firebringer]

yes, as brian pointed out if no scum exist in one thread by night 2 we get a whole thread confirmed town.
That is important.

I disagree. That possibility seems super remote.

unlikely yes, but i still think its important to scum thinking.

[Firebringer]

i think ceph is town now. I am very late. But i think i would have felt a more "he is forcing himself to post vibe" from his posts if he was scum and i never felt that. Idk last time i saw him scum was too long ago.

[Firebringer]

imperium + cabd for purple room imo

[Firebringer]

Yeah you put him at E-1 with your unvote.

Please familiarize yourself with how the damn votes work here on the dark side.

Oh, yeah, that’s what I meant to do.

I do know the votes, you posted and made me second guess.

UNVOTE: GFITC

I specifically stated the real reason to you, that’s somewhat a weak response by you then.

LET THE OTHER THREAD FINISH THEIR TURNSTILE SHIT BEFORE WE ELIM.

Once we elim their clock goes to 48 hours.

lol ur encouraging me to troll u

[Firebringer]

I specifically don’t want Cabd and Imperium in the purple room, actually.

I don’t have a strong enough town read on Cabd to be comfortable on that

okay but ceph is town.

and imperium is also town.

how do we fix ur reads

[Firebringer]

Bell I see you and I’m very excited to be on your side please come say hi

hi.

Is imperium scum.

We are the pinnacle of town.

FLAVOR LEAF LOOK AT THIS POST AND TELL ME ITS MADE BY SCUM!!!!

[Firebringer]

Like Sircakez was town in Xenoblade, right?

damn thats a fresh wound.

[Firebringer]

I think Gamma is town in the other thread

i need better than might

[Firebringer]

Other thread lim noraa

no

[Firebringer]

For what? Imperium scum? Why would there be any actual reasons for them to be scum right now if they're scum?

ok so you're unable to be communicated with

-b

u and flavors communication styles dont go together

[Firebringer]

superb I wanna ask how you read me in donner party real quick
because I know you were correct in mbos10 but I obvscummed by pushing your mason buddy
so I find it RIDICULOUSLY strange you have this confidence level when I've done nothing of the sort to incur that sort of opinion of me
Like, you say your read on me is all this game, but I have not done SHIT this game. So your confidence seems SUPER FORCED.

This is a gamma town post

okay
VOTE: GFITAC

[Firebringer]

i feel like i might stop reading other thread. they keep screaming nora is scum and i just don't feel like listening to it.
like a recorder on repeat.

[Firebringer]

the only person i listen to now is flavor leaf

[Firebringer]

i feel like i might stop reading other thread. they keep screaming nora is scum and i just don't feel like listening to it.
like a recorder on repeat.

well, Noraa is scum, sorry.

How could u do this to me.

[Firebringer]

skitter is scum

THANK YOU!

[Firebringer]

skitter is scum

THANK YOU!

where was my thank you.

did you miss me tunneling skitter?

i think u very well know my appreciation of u that no words need be uttered

[Firebringer]

Skittler is town

silence this non believer.

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE: Purple Room: Cabd/Cephrir

No lets send cabd

[Firebringer]

Btw

Times I've misread Noraa

Also literally 0

lallallaalalllllalalalala not listening. Can't hear u UNWND

[Firebringer]

i swear to god if noraa is my cakez 2.0; gonna be super mad

[Firebringer]

I'm reasonably confident that there's scum in the people scumreading me on the other side

doesnt everyone scumread u on the other side tho

[Firebringer]

hey skitter u know i know before when i was scum faking scumreads on u u were extremely interested in the reasoning behind the read. Which is a theme i think in ur town games. Yet here u seem more interested in arguing what is/not of ur scum game than of reasoning behind peoples read of u.

Comment?

[Firebringer]

I miss Firebringer.

no i u

[Firebringer]

ceph r u helping me buss skitter yet or no?

[Firebringer]

I try so hard to be nice and cutesy and Noraa and what I get is just a shit load of people calling me confscum.

ur first mistke was being nice

[Firebringer]

hey skitter u know i know before when i was scum faking scumreads on u u were extremely interested in the reasoning behind the read. Which is a theme i think in ur town games. Yet here u seem more interested in arguing what is/not of ur scum game than of reasoning behind peoples read of u.

Comment?

Eh i do both, i'm very interested in reads on me either way, and where they came from. I also tend to bicker abt how my scum (or town tbf) game is represented, esp if i feel it's inaccurate

Like the quibbling over incorrect reads comes from the same place as inaccurate depictions of my scumgame, i like when people actualky read me right for the right reasons

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

[Firebringer]

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

Yes, very

Okay, but it seems from your posts in any engagement on reads on you, you are by far more dismissive than engaging. I think this is almost objective at this point.

[Firebringer]

@Imperium is Tenet a good movie. You never told me if it was.

[Firebringer]

i might just leave thread eaarly tongit to go watch tenet.

[Firebringer]

Notsci,

I truly do love you to death - always have, always will. But while there are reads that I'm willing to trust others on and there are reads I'm willing to back off and let slide, this isn't and will never be one of them and you're not going to get me there just on trust. It's hard to read my level of confidence because I often push hard. Pushing hard on things is how you get them to happen. But this is a read that I am completely confident of and none of the half-baked theories on why she could possibly be scum moves me one millimeter. You think I'm wrong because I was wrong on Cakez D1 in Xenoblade. That's fine. Xenoblade was a fucked game for me because I basically only had the night phase to catch up on the game and then I had to scream whatever thoughts I had with complete confidence in order to be heard - I was out of my element. I was not confident in Cakez being town - I didn't have time to process a complete read there, I just wanted time to get my claws in the game after being on hiatus for 6 months. This is a different situation here. I was wrong on Spiffeh, but the confidence that I felt there isn't anything like the confidence I feel here because the way that noraaa is playing this game and has played in general isn't the way that scum play. My grasp of this game is much better than my grasp on Xenoblade because the gamestate isn't manic chaos 24/7. I am sorry that your confidence will have to take a hit here when noraaa flips town but I'm not sorry to teach respect for my townreads all over again since apparently people think I've forgotten to play the game because I made bad reads in Xenoblade.

Her town playstyle here is ABSOLUTELY suicidal. She has a wildly capable scumgame, as evidenced by games like Death Curse. Part of having a wildly capable scumgame is the ability to know what makes you townread and what makes you scumread. In Xenoblade she got caught out partially due to Cabd fear and partially due to being caught in a terrible place vis a vis the Cakez wagon, but even in an off scumgame you see she's discrediting (selective in who she OMGUSes so that she doesn't piss off everyone), you see her pushing at a variety of counterwagons to try to find a soft spot. Here she spent most of her time chewing you out in an extraordinarily one-note strategy and OMGUSing p a vast majority of the people who threw suspicion her way, earning her an ass fuck ton of enemies along the way.

Think of all the times that people told Noraaa to elaborate on her scumread of you, or anyone. Think of all the times Ffery told her to back off you and reconsider and in response she doubled down, called you a couple more names, and just kept stubbornly pushing. If you're scum trying to self-pres, is this how you approach the game? No. It's the Flavor Leaf principle - if you want to strangle him because he's being *just* *that* *fucking* *obnoxious*, he's probably town.

Think of her interactions with Cabd and unwnd. There's this:

I also want to compliment Noraa and state that I think her scum range is evolving in a similar growth pattern as mine did back in 2014.

Very disappointed in you, Cabd.
UNVOTE: Noraa

Why not? my collection of day 1 mislims definitely isn't big enough.

You made the Sakura Hana comparison? This is what a town implosion looks like to the T. This is a fucking solid interaction with someone who literally just got dunking her into the next realm in Xenoblade.

There's this.

Noraa, we a little calmer and able to talk, now?

Don't wanna talk to cabd.

She's not being extremely showy about being mad @ cabd (aka trying to pocket him with an emotional response), but she's just icing him out in a pout-y sort of way. I saw her try to shake him off in Xenoblade. I read her progression in death curse. Players don't add this much range to their scumgame so fucking quickly - it's impossible.

Let's look at unwnd interactions.

unwnd thinks im scum?!


I had the largest faith in them

Unwind is possibly the most wrong townie I’ve ever seen

Its strange and making me worried that unwnd is scum. The problem is too many people think im scum that I expect better reads from so I'll just take the L cuz apparently im playing super scummy.

Again, Noraa isn't showboating, isn't making a huge fucking deal about all of this.
It's a quiet, defeated, disappointment. It's suicidal. It's town.

I did find it weird that unwnd of all players thought I was scum here.

Unwnd had an amazing read on me in our last two games and here its just .... so far off.

After Cake's game, I had loads of respect for his play and so I expected a correct read. There was none but I couldn't really say much at the time without seeming like an OMGUSfuck so here I am voicing this opinion rn.

Notsci could be town as his reads always come off as insanely dumb when he's town too. I just hate his tunneling that is nothing based and absolutely crap.

Besides that not a single post of his pings even remotely town and Bulge avoiding thread is not a good look.

I don't have a case on scum!Notsci but I wouldn't bat an eye even if we yeet a Vig RBer Cop hybrid.

That's the level to which I don't care for Notsci's play.

This post is double because 1) you're the only person she pushed in a significant way the whole game and now she's shrugging and saying that you could be town but fuck you anyways.

But, again, she's not scum simply because her play doesn't make any fucking sense at all if scum. She's pouring a decent amount of effort into the game, but is any of it going towards her own survival? Not really, unless you think Noraa's forgotten everything she learned about playing scum from her other scumgames and have now decided to do her best to make as many enemies as possible for shits and giggles. Not really, unless Noraa solved how to deal with Cabd in literally one game.

So tl;dr, and I say this with all the love in the world so don't interpret this the wrong way, but if you hold one ounce of respect for my game like you say you do, back off. She's fucking town.

I am the Leader of Tenet.

And I am not wrong here.

[Firebringer]

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

Yes, very

Okay, but it seems from your posts in any engagement on reads on you, you are by far more dismissive than engaging. I think this is almost objective at this point.

I mean i'm not trying to be? I feel like i have been trying to engage on the reads on me ...

is something wrong in rl? ur kind of acting odd in this thread a bit.

[Firebringer]

cakez pls pm the player privately if u think theres a problem.

sorry for backseat modding.

[Firebringer]

Imperium is the leader of Tenet and guaranteed to be aligned with them!

most obvious town person gets the innocent child role lol. Classic

[Firebringer]

is something wrong in rl? ur kind of acting odd in this thread a bit.

Eh things have been meh over the past few weeks but are maybe (?) starting to look up

And i guess if things are spilling over and i'm being a bit like ~grouchy~ i apologize

Only a bit

[Firebringer]

ceph when did u join our scum team?

[Firebringer]

i find it funny that imperium is IC.

[Firebringer]

nacho is right they are 100% a big night kill target either way so being mad about them outting is pretty dumb

[Firebringer]

@annie how the hell r u still number one in activity over here.

how the hell am i number 5.

[Firebringer]

omg I am so happy to not have to think about tammy's alignment even though I think I'd reached like 85% town on them

imagine having to think about Tammy's alignment

lol spiffey remember how like 20 paages ago u were still playing "conservatively" with coming to a imperium read

[Firebringer]

You both @notsci and @norraa have separate threads and should not talk about each other. Pretend the other is in the dead thread and move on.

[Firebringer]

@peta w/e gets u to the correct read:

correct read is scum!

[Firebringer]

I'm open to turnstiling MuffinMan too but that might be unpopular

if we are sticking with the theme that this thread is full of uncivilized barbarians, we need muffin. His sarcastic wit is very barbaric.

@imperium i enjoy you guys too

[Firebringer]

@Titus why are you scumreading LLD?

Hey Ceph u think LLD is town right?

[Firebringer]

From what I can see, I've liked Titus's posts in the other thread. Sirius also seemed alright back there.

i would agree. I want to know why she thinks we should be looking at LLD though.

[Firebringer]

Good, IC claim. no need to worry about that stuff, and now they're more likely to get protected.

AND U WERE WORRIED IMPERIUM!

[Firebringer]

@Fire, It's because LLD was careless at best. Town!LLD isn't careless. She likes to play with emotions as scum. An early fight gets people to think not scum together. Starting from 509, that interaction with Superbowl is faked.

hmmm ill haave to go back and read this

[Firebringer]

Good, IC claim. no need to worry about that stuff, and now they're more likely to get protected.

AND U WERE WORRIED IMPERIUM!

As I should have been.

Actually, @Skitter - This game look similar to you now? I pushed an IC because I was correct yet again that they were hiding something, and being off because of it.

why u asking a scumread to back u up

[Firebringer]

I'm gonna ask again. How are you this easily conned?

why do u ask questions u know answers to

[Firebringer]

I'm gonna ask again. How are you this easily conned?

why do u ask questions u know answers to

Because I'm a huge bitch.

aren't we all

[Firebringer]

i dont know what titus means by town you isn't careless tbh. She said your interactions with superbowl was funky. I thought "maybe i should reread that" to say ive been conned of that is a bit excessive.

[Firebringer]

i dont know what titus means by town you isn't careless tbh. She said your interactions with superbowl was funky. I thought "maybe i should reread that" to say ive been conned of that is a bit excessive.

me?

Titus is in a weird spot with regarding reading me right now, I don't think I'm the best to read her right now either because of it.

i was talking to LLD

[Firebringer]

i thiiink overall titus is town based on inherited read from sirius + coming in with assertive takes that are occasionlly wildly out there but why is she trying to sell us a case on how LLD plays as town? isn't she a "meta is trash" person?

Titus is reading LLD as scum.
I never heard of titus saying meta is trash, she is more of the player looking at VCA which ceph hates.

[Firebringer]

i dont know what titus means by town you isn't careless tbh. She said your interactions with superbowl was funky. I thought "maybe i should reread that" to say ive been conned of that is a bit excessive.

well I chose to read her words at face value and assume "careless" means, you know, careless.

As for the word choice, I picked it specifically because it's how I felt. Maybe "lured in" is better? I feel like she put something out there with confidence "LLD is like THIS." and you were like "oh hmm, word, lemme see that shit"

and that's the con. Cause it's fucking ridiculous but she gets to look good either way for doing it. If you disagree you probably don't come back thinking she's scum for it, and if you agree, well... that's a whole other gain for her.

Again, IDK if she's scum because titus moon logics here way into threads and does this shit and I need like, another day or 2 to solve her.

But she's dead wrong, and I'd say she "should know better" but given she's never ever read me correctly... yeah maybe not.

Wait so do u think she is scum?

[Firebringer]

i should read the full post before i ask questions.

[Firebringer]

LLD did u read her predecessor Siriuis? i feel like u made comments on him but idr

[Firebringer]

@LLD, Just who do you think is conned? No one has really explicitly agreed or disagreed with you. Also, I'm literally not reading two more games after slogging through 100 pages and needing to finish about 50 more give or take.

You mention about turning the screws to people. That's the same behavior I am describing. You don't forget the details when legitimately applying the screws. Since when does anyone buy a semantic argument? It's eyerolled and ignored unless scum support it. You also immediately backed off upon "finding out" Superbowl wasn't new. That doesn't make sense if you legitimately believed you caught scum with your argument. You didn't feel that way at all.

Then there's also Superbowl's lack of followthrough on his theory.

Then there's skitter's random declaration of you not being S V S.

You immediately come in here with an angry AtE discredit, which is your go to move to get townread.

pretty sure that is LLD go to move regardless....

so LLD saw superbowl making some post about being new and LLD thinks "ohh this teammate is useless" and decides to buss heavy or something. Is that what im supposed to take from this.

[Firebringer]

Were they the person replaced out by force?

Yes

[Firebringer]

@Fire, I'm thinking more staged from the get go rather than thinking superbowl is useless. Namely that the fight was meant to go nowhere but create distance between them.

i def dont think that interaction was staged. also do u do random push then retract fast to create distance with allies with scum? I don't think those work to create distance.

[Firebringer]

@Fire, I'm thinking more staged from the get go rather than thinking superbowl is useless. Namely that the fight was meant to go nowhere but create distance between them.

i def dont think that interaction was staged. also do u do random push then retract fast to create distance with allies with scum? I don't think those work to create distance.

Titus i am asking if u have done staged small brief push/pull encounters with ur scum allies when ur scum.

I don't think i was clear in my prev post

[Firebringer]

UNVOTE: something_smart

something clicked

interesting

[Firebringer]

@LLD at least ur in the uncivilized thread.

we get to call people names over here.
in that other thread they have ~tea and crumpets~

pretty disgusting if u ask me

[Firebringer]

Ohh and if u missed Imperium is IC in other thread.

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Firebringer

Why did you think Brian was scum? I wanna revisit that

Does it still persist?

yes, i said it long ago that i thought brian skies was going with popular opinions of thread. I think quite a few people said they agree with what brian has said but i think he is mostly just mimicing other people pretty well or syncing well enough to know what to say that he thinks others will agree with.

I felt him even engaging with him and then calling me town was him trying to pocket me.

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Ohh and if u missed Imperium is IC in other thread.

wait really?

this is good news

wait

did they pop it this early? wait explain how this happened.

here is the post and quote of activation phrase for ic:

I am the Leader of Tenet.

was just like 5 pages ago in other thread. apprently they wanted to do it earlier but decided to be dramatic.

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the amount of omgus in this game is genuinely insane and they can't all be scum
-ceph

or can they.....

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i refuse to get tilted.

*tries to think of ways to tilt Ceph*

nope i got nothing

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wait i think u meant tilted as in the game mechanic lol

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UNVOTE: purple room deacon blues

this should be dandelion wine. You mispelled skitter

[Firebringer]

your mother is a warthog

why dont u want to be purple roomed

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hey noddy, what do you think of spiffeh?

i dont actually care much about the answer, i just wanted spiffeh to feel talked about

We are big Spiffeh fans over here

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Muffinmn has to be scum. Town him is not this affable

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DONT U CALL MUFFIN MAN TOWN! YOU FOOL UR FALLING INTO HIS TRAP
DONT PAY ATTENTION TO HIS ANIME GIRL AVATAR IT IS FULL OF LIES!!!

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Ive been saying that for awhile now. Also if ur gonna counter buss me, we should figure out some mean things to say to each other for the audience.

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I'm making this post outside of the game and I want to speak to you at a personal level.

Noraa, please stop being so negative. I think you're very sweet and I enjoy having you in my games. I apologize if you feel attacked but you're weaponizing your feelings right now and nobody knows how to deal with it. I want you to understand that this is a game and character cannot be judged entirely by game-related actions. That being said, I think right now you are feeling personally attacked and that your only chance of fighting back is by making others feel the way you do by saying they're "Bad" or "Can't read you". If you want to be respected or to be taken seriously, I need you to let go of those feelings and really rethink the way you're approaching this game. I also just want to say, if you are being underhanded by the means of acting this way exclusively beacuse of the game, I will be very saddened by it, as it has lead me to reconsider my thoughts on you purely through empathy; I townread you.

I am humbled by what you said of me but know that I don't treat myself as a person who is always right, or has god-tier reads. Each game is individual, and what I want most out of this game is to have fun and enjoy the puzzle aspect. Right or Wrong does not dictate how much fun I am having, nor how much I enjoy someone either. I don't look at you like 'well, Noraa is always wrong so I don't care' I look at you as the way I described you previously, and that's what matters most to me.

May I request a beam over?

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Got you fam

ohh u beat me to it.

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Sorry woofboy you're like a good fifteen minutes late to the party and nobody bothered to save you any~

pedit- yah

I will get revenge by night kill u first.

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yes we should eliminate skitter

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Ugh, Skitter’s so obviously scum, I wish I could explain why better.

Try your best?

my role pm says skitter is scum.

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I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

look at this egg head appealing to rationality

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Hey FL if it makes you feel better I think you could be right about skitter!

spiffeh i like to think we are all correct in that skitter is scum.

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I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

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skitter not willing to engage with me in name calling each other is a scum tell.

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I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

im pretty sure it is always a fallacy. just because something is correct doesn't make it not a fallacy

Correct but what I think SS is saying is that a lot of things that look like appeals to authority really arent

r u appealing to the authority of knowing what SS meant here

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I don't hard disagree w/ any of these (I have had a few moments of paranoia w/ peta but at least one was based off me misinterpreting a post)
I'm cautious on Firebringer I guess as I'm not super jazzed when someone comes into a game and goes "i'm a cop". Not saying that makes him scum, but it makes me wary and he's just never a particularly transparent player in the first place.

i am a very transparent player

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no thnks. i don't have a read on them.

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OH MY GOD I GET TO BREAK OUT THE CHECKLIST MEME FINALLY YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

is that the one where it calls me bad

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Dandelion tht post was cringe

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@FB - I think it's fine to put possible Scum Deacon even in the purple room. We know it cant be a scum-scum thing.

Issue is if Scum Deacon can pocket the IC.

If I were scum, I'd be looking for ways to do so.

I think it's fine. I don't necessarily scum read Deacon anyways right now. Ffery helped for me.

if okay to put possible scum in there why were u so against dandellion >.>

who i think doesn't feel like scum

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Superbowl
Deacon
Flavor Leaf
Noraa
Firebringer
Skitter

top 6 posters, we might all be town.

OHH NOES WHEN DID U FLIP ON SKITTER

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Dandelion tht post was cringe

I loved it

well thats because ur made of cringe!

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unvote: purple room Deacon

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Hey skitter hows it going

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Hey skitter hows it going

P good, how abt u

decent i am trying to motivaate myself to exercise more but instead im posting here.

[Firebringer]

who wnts to exercise with me. Lets do it

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i dont agree its sketchy.

[Firebringer]

who wnts to exercise with me. Lets do it

Im actually about to go work out. Lets get it!!!

HELLL YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

LETS DO IT TO IT

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i dont think scum!gamma would lie abt that

Okay nope skitter is scum
She’s attacking my claim not by saying I’m lying about being BG, but that I’m lying/wrong about WHICH TIME STREAM IT WORKS IN
that’s just not right on so many levels. If you think my BG claim is true why think it’s a scum role? It literally just trades scum for scum (or even worse, scum for town) in any case where it would do the stated purpose. It’s nothing like scum doc because the numbers don’t change because one scum died over another. In addition, it’s common for scum to assume a claim is true since they don’t have to sort the alignment of the claimant. But beyond that she seems to be taking a shot at me by saying I got the side wrong? That looks like scum straining to find an angle to push me on.

UNVOTE: Skitter
I’m still pissed at superb but this is just not how town handles a claim like mine.

while im glad u have reached the correct conclusion on skitter. she is saying ur town yo

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i dont agree its sketchy.

I'm reading this in two possible ways depending on whether there was supposed tk be a comma or not

i don't agree that not self voting yourself to move over is sketchy.

The town can go fuck themselves sometimes. If I disagree with the will of the town crowd that doesn't make me scummy. That just means i don't agree. The mob isn't always right.

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So if skittle flips town can we agree to turn total control of the thread over to me

i think im more likely to give thread control over to nora than u

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imagine pisskop coming over here and first post is a hammer on skitter.

how glorious would that be

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I'm wondering why he doesn't want to get turnstiled anymore?

i mean i literally can't be turnstilled right now

[Firebringer]

I'm wondering why he doesn't want to get turnstiled anymore?

i mean i literally can't be turnstilled right now

Would you want to be sent tomorrow?

ehhh maybe day 3.

[Firebringer]

ehhh maybe day 3.

What changed?

i can only check odd nights

[Firebringer]

okay i am for real leaving thred to work out. cya all later

[Firebringer]

i am back. how we doing on the skitter wagon fellas

[Firebringer]

good to hear commander leaf

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Stuck in a cage on my cell phone. Hate love my job sometimes. Unwnd- did I just cross-pollinate tammycho into your lexicon?

Has a good ring to it. Thoughts on Hench being frozen?

Brain no work gud. ELI5

is this cabd or ceph. if its ceph i challenge u to a childrens card game
if its cabd then i want ur lunch money

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LLD so townie, even though I town read unwnd.

i dont think lld is scum right now but dont u think this is pretty standard lld?

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in fact this reminds me of that game of kuribo constantly being behind and coming back to find posts to be angry about, when he was scum. Yelling about how people were lying bout him.

ofc LLD is different player, but i am getting kuribo flashbacks

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LLD so townie, even though I town read unwnd.

i dont think lld is scum right now but dont u think this is pretty standard lld?

i dont know what standard lld looks like.

I've played one game with them, and I scum read them when they were town, but then i changed to a town read.

if tht was Xeno, that def not a standard LLD game

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Thog no understand concept of money.

Thog already use checklist.

Good; the checklist should be banned.

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skitter is LLD town?

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I'm just gonna town block with Dandelion. With Deacon, we're falling onto the same page again, which I trust wholeheartedly for us to get an eventual solve

fine, ill go start my own townblock with black jack and hookers.

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But ok lets rewind why are you scumreading me again?

You feel like you're trying to sway people over working with them. You have a couple of times where I feel like you're posting stuff that doesn't make sense (most notably the post about Gamma retracting that I called out). And when you pushed lilith in PYP I really felt a combination of confidence and fear that you would be ignored (while also trying to keep yourself from tunneling) and I really don't see any of that nuance in your reads here.

I think this has been said a couple times at this point. I know i said this point about not working with people before.

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UNVOTE: fire

u were already unvoting me.

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We don't wanna be like the OTHER thread

but spiffeh this thread has your biggest fans!

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UNVOTE: fire

u were already unvoting me.

I know, it was for emphasis

You know i am still voting myself too right?

I dont believe you scumread me either btw.

[Firebringer]

is Hench = Nancy Drew?

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But if hammer before then: strongest scumreads here are gamma and fire

i don't believe you believe these are scum

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gamma u suck at reading.
she just called u scum.

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gamma's town, fire's scum

this was a plot twist i didn't see coming.

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maybe im just clouded by thinking ive been very townie.

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this was a plot twist i didn't see coming.

You're too townie to be town fire, it's obvious

fair

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gamma u suck at reading.
she just called u scum.

where????? like pls point it out because I don't want to have to read the thread Karkat-style to find it
I don't think she appeals to me like this while thinking I'm scum, swo this is such a weird thing to happen

do not make me rage at u. go read.

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is pretending to be a hectic alt just a universal site meme now

no the universal site meme is claim ur the worst alt
but hectic is a close second for that alt meme claim

@everyone does anyone think skitter is town here?

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"@everyone does anyone think skitter is town here?"

Noraa.

lol. this genuinely made me laugh very loud in my room. ty.

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what if Hench is Mena
i guessed mena last time on my alt guesses and i was right.
lets go 2 for 2.

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Fire, I don't think Mena can hyperpost to this level. But if I was Mena would you say I was more town or more scum?

idk ur not really playing like town mena or mena really so i would say no.

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did i ever tell u guys i was gonna make an alt hunting algorithm but i never got around to doing it or testing it. I even talked to psyche briefly about the idea/project. I need to get better at coding to test it.

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IN THIS THREAD AND OTHER

WHO READS SKITTER TOWN.

EXPLAIN FOR THE COURT NOW PLS.

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Me! Gut

how well can ur gut process stale fruit cake

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Sorry lactose intolerant

ur guts no good then.
pls reconsider ur skitter read.

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Wasn't not science literally at e minus 1 for a few minutes at the very least?

Yes. Skitter voted him, getting him off E-1

She literally did that knowing it was expected for her to do so.

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@Fire my read of skitter is comparable to that dead cat in quantum physics, the one where it's town if you're not looking at it and scum if you look at it

YOU AND SUPERBOWL NEED TO GET A ROOM

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I'm not saying otherwise.

okay you added that extra info as though it was +town skitter equity or something

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i feel like this thread has actually been extremely civil outside nora/notsci stuff

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Fire is scum and i think he's slyly been trying to facilitate/encourage the shitty gamestate

Two points:
1) I don’t think the game stage is in a shitty position but I get ur not happy with the game state
2) I think I’ve been extremely cordial with everyone including you so not sure how you think I’m slysly encouraging a game state

I hope u come back and enjoy the game, I don’t want u to not enjoy the game. But even this post I don’t think ur town, sorry skitter

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I asked that because LLD was on my mind and I didn’t know ur positions on her were

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And like overall i think this game is extremely different from a town skitter mindset mostly because your behavior is way outside your usual methodology of solving.

You are playing this game alot like a lone wolf RC type who tells people what the correct reads are, give your reasons and then your done.
The collaboration with people to figure out what is going on in the minds of others is very much absent. Working together with people is just not there. I saw at one point you said it was frustrating because you think you are right and no one is listening (i might be horrible paraphrasing that) but when i looked at the things u said i was wondering "why r u really certain of these things. These seem more instinctive/gut reads with a minor bit of reasoning sprinkled in".

the game mechanic situation thing is weird, i think u saying u dont care about it while simultaneously deciding to play coy with why you want to move over is weird. Like i truly dont care about game mechanics and u dont see me playing any coy games with claiming i am pr. I guess in grand scheme u might not care but on the immediate level it tells me u do and i really dont think that is true on you as a player. Maybe u meant player reads vs mechanic reads if i am being very charitable and then that makes sense.

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skitter my read on you has been the read ive most elaborated on in this game I think. If your challenging me on the realness of this read im kind of surprised you wouldn't challenge any other reads.

i also really don't understand this "firebringer instigating" stuff. I don't think i will. I know scum me likes to poke people to initiate 1v1s but i dont know where ur getting it from here besides me asking about ur read on LLD and even there i am going ??? i think its easy to see my mind was already lost on LLD and i was thinking "well what does skitter think". I guess ur mindset on that might make sense for u completely ignoring my question. Which at the time i thought was weird but maybe u just skipped my post.

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VOTE: skitter

im not as confident i was yesterday.

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Rude.

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This is why I think our mentality has to change. We’ve broken two townies because we’ve simply said “this sis not your town meta now die scum”. People just want to play the game - when you meta scumread them its not fun because they can’t do anything, its a vicious cycle

meta is not the problem. ur self serving bias on why people blow up is not founded upon any psychological understanding of people.

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This is why I think our mentality has to change. We’ve broken two townies because we’ve simply said “this sis not your town meta now die scum”. People just want to play the game - when you meta scumread them its not fun because they can’t do anything, its a vicious cycle

meta is not the problem. ur self serving bias on why people blow up is not founded upon any psychological understanding of people.

I mean I’m just stating why they said they were upset - they feel like they don’t have a chance to play because you meta SR them

If that is all you got out of that read. You didn't read very well.

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I don't know who i want to eliminate.

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I still think skitter is scum but my heart isn't there anymore.

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Didn't you say green skitter was green flavor too? Or was that someone else

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@bowl I am pretty sure you are using that phrase incorrectly.

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Skitter r u legit feared of geting lyched here cause ur playing almost survivalistically and you only got like 2 votes on u

[Firebringer]

Skitter r u legit feared of geting lyched here cause ur playing almost survivalistically and you only got like 2 votes on u

More work from FL

i am just an echo chamber for all FL posts.
Except his nora read

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Skitter r u legit feared of geting lyched here cause ur playing almost survivalistically and you only got like 2 votes on u

No now i'm just exhausted and feel very apathetic

how can i energize u

[Firebringer]

Skitter r u legit feared of geting lyched here cause ur playing almost survivalistically and you only got like 2 votes on u

No now i'm just exhausted and feel very apathetic

how can i energize u

I dont know. I dont think i can be today

leave thread and go exercise. Will improve ur mood

[Firebringer]

the flavor leaf fan club?

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how about midwaybear? i mean i dont scumread him but i got nothing right now.

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i have never seen skitter be toxic even once or take anything personally. this is a game and she is like close to a saint in terms of not taking things personally.

skitter is a saint compared to most mafia players but in my experience u dont know someone well enough till u see them go ape shit.

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skitter. u know dogs > cats.
don't confirm ur scum by spreading the falsities that cats are better.

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are you trying to antagonize me and skitter because I will nuke you if you push this further. back off. you are not white knighting skitter, you are being gross

ur personality/approach is encouraging confrontation friendo. might want to reconsider the tone of ur posts/word choices.

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how does everyone feel about fading midwaybear?

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how does everyone feel about fading midwaybear?

Just because you don't have any confident scumreads?

yeah, do u have any?

[Firebringer]

now we get to bully the bear