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Actually, Bell goes down to Spiffeh level after those last few posts.

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It's also worth noting I don't expect a 6 slot scum team to have perfect synergy by any means, so their could be mishaps and weird things with gamestate I'll have to consider.

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fuck my ipad. their**

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damn it, ThERe*

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One of Skitter/Deacon scum.

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Could be.

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Deacon feels like they're hatcheting me so hard, I'm actively not trying to engage the slot because I don't want to fight with ffery.

No they're not, and you havent been talking to ffery

I know. Because I don't want to fight with ffery because we will. Check Ilicit Substances

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Also @Skitter - people are chopping at me from all over, you said you felt the same way, if you are town, then this scum team has solid synergy in regards to discrediting and defending, and making things happen.

I'm not sure where i said that, but if i did it might be because you're saying a lot of scummy things that i'm only d discounting because you usually look like this

well, you did say it.

And there are plenty of people town reading me this game, so you're actually in the minority here saying that it's scummy, which is interesting because earlier you also said town, but you're saying I'm saying a lot of scummy things that you're discounting because I usually look like this.

Gamma actually stated how I look different this game than normal, but in a good way.

Hench is hard town reading me.

Firebringer said I'm the only one they're gonna listen to this game.

You and Deacon seem to be trying to chop at me. I don't think you're both town.

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I'm reasonably confident that there's scum in the people scumreading me on the other side

Dont know who it is, i can just tell it's happening.
Hp and unwnd stuck out in particular. I'm not saying they're scum for it, but making a note, the progressions dont feel natural and the timing is off but make a lot of sense if they're suddenly aware that i'm gonna be over there at some point most likely

Aside do u 2 still townread annie edison

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I have rather strong town reads on HP and Unwnd, so you pushing them alongside discrediting me makes me feel you're scum here, especially because I can sense I'm probably tunneling on town Deacon based on other's reads there, which means scum are TMI'ing Deacon because they think that's a good slot to town read, which means scum are in that social circle.

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Deacon might not be scum, but there are scum centered around them somewhere.

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I specifically think you are scum discrediting whilst pushing a town read on me.

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By all means, I don't think you're trying to go for a fade on me. Like even if you would get me misfaded here, I don't think the rest of the game gets positioned well because of the amount of action that would be needed to take.

Check out what happens in Large Normal 230 what happens when scum try hard to misfade me Day 1.

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And if you are town, yes, scum is pushing you somewhere, which gives +town equity to pressure you here. You're not an uncommon scum read this game. Not the most popular one, but there are multiple people scum reading you here.

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I have rather strong town reads on HP and Unwnd, so you pushing them alongside discrediting me makes me feel you're scum here, especially because I can sense I'm probably tunneling on town Deacon based on other's reads there, which means scum are TMI'ing Deacon because they think that's a good slot to town read, which means scum are in that social circle.

Ok but i dont know who hench is and apparentky that should be relevant factor in me being able to read them.
I'm p confident there'a scum in people over there who started calling me scum last night. I dont know exactly who they are, and it might not be those two, so much as i remembered them doing it (and titus too technically, but i think hers is more real)

And i'm not tmi-ing deacon, i'm just feeling good abt that read (i'm also not sure i agree with the conclusion that scum are tmi-ing deacon to begin with)

I disagree. I'm not getting pushed hard either. If Deacon is town, and you're town, with me pushing the two of you like I have been, 100% without a doubt are scum town reading Deacon here, and hoping for a TvT sword fight.

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hench, me, Firebringer, titus I think are the main 4 pushing you as scum.

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Fire and Hench are my strongest town reads, and they both think you're scum here. Hench could be pocketing me, Fire could be wrong. So there are possibilities.

read on Noraa?

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did scum get to choose which scum go to which game?

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@Noraa - thoughts on Skitter when you get the chance, please.

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Anyways, that should suffice in place of catching up completely for me. Now it's like I've been here the whole time, just showed up a bit after start. Bed time.

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lol, Skitter's so scum, but I don't know how to actually push her today.

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UNVOTE: Skitter

While I go to sleep, add some pressure in my time off. I wanna see what sprouts from it anyways.

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i specifically stated I didn't really care to fade Skitter today, didn't I? So what do you mean? I'm voting there, but it's specifically because I planned on going away, and wanted to have some sting still

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I'm getting some ???! vibes from the hp/fl interactions, something feels off there imo

It’s possible I’m getting pocketed, but we’re most likely just masons.

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I didn’t say not interacting, Ffery, if i did, i didn’t mean to. I just meant i didn’t want to sword fight you.

Also Fire push is disgusting.

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Some people are really just shit at reading me.

I am not one of them.

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Skitter is blatant scum.

You can believe me now or post game because I will be in the dead thread with I told you so’s.

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Deacon feels like they're hatcheting me so hard, I'm actively not trying to engage the slot because I don't want to fight with ffery.

This post (and a couple that followed) are what I'm responding to.

bork wasn't hatcheting you. He was looking for data that could push against our nachotammy townread as a sort of brake (if the data made sense to him/us) or a validation (if the data didn't resonate).

That’s what Imperium said too.

I gave everything. He assumed I had more.

Everyone’s acting like I was the wrong one in that scenario.

I assure you, I was not.

He wanted 5 cookies from me, I gave him 2.

All I had was 2 cookies, and I didn’t care for them in the first place, i just ended up with them, so i gave him the cookies, and he got stuck on telling me he needed 5 cookies. I didn’t have 5 cookies.

Good usage of discredit whoever is piling onto that Bork came off better nonsense.

That is factually untrue because if people feel that way, they are actively choosing to ignore.

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I’m investigating Dandelion tonight.

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The Spiffeh OMGUS on me is choice.

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And i half believe my Noraa case, what of it.

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Regardless, I know Noraa will act because of it, beneficial to town regardless. She is scummy, even if she is town. There’s a reason I’m not voting her.

Spiffeh is scum here, the OMGUS and the constant fluffy questions.

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"Your scumreads are bad and you should feel bad" is a fun game but then we get Mr. gab over here running a Illicit instead of a Xeno.

We need to consensus.

Right now the threads feel like they're in a state of backwards needs to decide an elim, while forwards has pretty much chosen their elim and turnstiles. While we COULD elim whoever they send us, I'd rather we have an answer for what to do if we end up getting town from them instead, as it seems they may go that route with Spiffeh.

If it helps, Ffery helped a lot with my read for Deacon,but Bork needed to be scumread.

There is 100% scum in the people town reading your slot. Do you know all the people who are doing so?

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I was in game of Ilicit for 4 days phases, and 3 of those 4 days were scum hits on people I was pushing hard. It’s okay to go the way of Ilicit, we can handle reading each other now.

Scum are combined in the people town reading Deacon and scum reading me here.

Deacon can enter the townblock. I need to wash the honey I dropped from a bucket on you guys to see what scumprints are there.

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There is 100% scum in the people town reading your slot. Do you know all the people who are doing so?

In this timeline, the other timeline, or both?

I believe there are some yet to state an opinion but the ones NOT townreading me are:

Skitter
Noraa
Hench
Brian? He wasn't at one point.
Unwnd I don't feel expressed a read on me other than paranoid of me.

Ugh, Skitter’s so obviously scum, I wish I could explain why better.

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People are targeting me because they’re trying to protect Noraa and Skitter.

I think they are the scum in this game, and people are trying to protect them from the other game.

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She’s playing reactively, and she’s focusing more on discrediting me.

She used the town read me in place of scum push whilst simultaneously discrediting me, the exact move Skitter needs to play against me.

This defends her because if I push her, I look bad because she’s town reading me.

I wrote about the type of play in my scum guide. An early skitter scum game was beside me and Eddie Cane, a partner I am undefeated with. She has her own scum game, but like I know she does some of that stuff as scum.

I’m going to go back and post the moment that I knew she was scum because it’s something that I realized scum doctor more than town when I had an urge to do similar things as scum in another game.

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Deacon feels like they're hatcheting me so hard, I'm actively not trying to engage the slot because I don't want to fight with ffery.

This post (and a couple that followed) are what I'm responding to.

bork wasn't hatcheting you. He was looking for data that could push against our nachotammy townread as a sort of brake (if the data made sense to him/us) or a validation (if the data didn't resonate).

That’s what Imperium said too.

I gave everything. He assumed I had more.

Everyone’s acting like I was the wrong one in that scenario.

I assure you, I was not.

He wanted 5 cookies from me, I gave him 2.

All I had was 2 cookies, and I didn’t care for them in the first place, i just ended up with them, so i gave him the cookies, and he got stuck on telling me he needed 5 cookies. I didn’t have 5 cookies.

Good usage of discredit whoever is piling onto that Bork came off better nonsense.

That is factually untrue because if people feel that way, they are actively choosing to ignore.

I dunno. maybe if I'd been more on the ball last night I could have interceded some. In Illicit, town me was arguing with you/ignoring you and yelling in hydra chat about what a dunce you were being, and I figured out pretty quickly that a lot of what you posted (particularly about morph/alisae) wasn't just wrong because of our role pm. it was spun up out of mostly nothing objective. Bork wasn't seeing you from a town pov in that game. He was just enjoying the effect the distractions and kneecapping us had on the game, especially on day 1.

He thought you'd have way more than 2 cookies.

I haven't paid attention to people saying bork came off better. Who's done that?

There was a few, but Dandelion was one of them.

Like I said, I’m investigating them tonight, but I’m not town reading the slot like everyone else.

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@Noraa - thoughts on Skitter when you get the chance, please.

Last i remember she thinks i'm town cuz i was defending her

lol, Skitter's so scum, but I don't know how to actually push her today.

UNVOTE: Skitter

While I go to sleep, add some pressure in my time off. I wanna see what sprouts from it anyways.

She “Hi, Noraa”’d me immediately. Most times i get called out for answering for someone, this is from a scum perspective, so this is in addition to everything, if you don’t like this, well, don’t use it, there’s plenty more.

My highest town reads and I are all seeing Skitter is scum, independently, I believe they had the read first, maybe not Hench, but Fire definitely did, and this is not scumFire.

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You think if we misfade Gamma I become town? What?

Lets misfade them then.

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My highest town reads and I are all seeing Skitter is scum, independently, I believe they had the read first, maybe not Hench, but Fire definitely did, and this is not scumFire.

Trump does this - "me and my top people, everyone, great people. We all see skittle scum!! Very big!"

Yeah, but that’s why I would beat Trump in a debate after only a few years in the public eye, because unlike that tragedy, I actually have deeper analysis that people actually start to understand as the game goes on.

My analysis comes from my extensive experience, and my inability to come up with the right way to garner momentum on Day 1, but if I hold onto Day 3, it’s toast. Ilicit Substances did well for this.

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She’s playing reactively, and she’s focusing more on discrediting me.

She used the town read me in place of scum push whilst simultaneously discrediting me, the exact move Skitter needs to play against me.

This defends her because if I push her, I look bad because she’s town reading me.

I wrote about the type of play in my scum guide. An early skitter scum game was beside me and Eddie Cane, a partner I am undefeated with. She has her own scum game, but like I know she does some of that stuff as scum.

I’m going to go back and post the moment that I knew she was scum because it’s something that I realized scum doctor more than town when I had an urge to do similar things as scum in another game.

My good man, very little of this correlates to how i've actually been approaching your slot, and the last time you went down this path i was *drumroll please* town

And did I misfade you?

How long ago was that game?

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Who would you like to turnstyle tomorrow flavor?

Probably Cabd if he’s town.

@Hench - they just make it hard for themselves, tbh. I’m not that hard to read. People don’t comprehend my scum game correctly, so they let it bleed out in games when I am town because I say my mind as town, and I’m wtf.

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Dandelion and I are at near-mason level cooperation here fwiw.

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midwaybear's activity level is troubling.

Couple more days, hopefully you’ll match Hench and I’s level of masonry,

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Firebringer and Gamma slot. Really.

Guys, this is killing me.

ScumSkitter is literally taunting me here.

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Who would you like to turnstyle tomorrow flavor?

Probably Cabd if he’s town.

@Hench - they just make it hard for themselves, tbh. I’m not that hard to read. People don’t comprehend my scum game correctly, so they let it bleed out in games when I am town because I say my mind as town, and I’m wtf.

Why not me? It would give you free reign to control this thread and I get to go to the thread I like better too, win/win

You’re in my town block.

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Notice skitters turn from town reading to idk reading.

I was on all 4 scum wagons that game, Skitter. If that happens again, that is a positive.

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You’re using that game as a crutch defense, and it’s not holding up much longer.

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You’re in my town block.

What does that have to do with me being here? Do you want me to help you solve?

Yeah, I’m gonna sheep you on Gamma, I’m just waiting to hammer without a claim them.

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Skitter is literally just attacking my town block.

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Firebringer, Hench, and LLD, all three in my higher town block, and Skitter is 1 by 1 pushing them down because it weakens my spot in the gamestate.

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Skitter is literally just attacking my town block.

Calling yourself town every other post is just obvious gaslighting

So

I’m calling you guys town moreso than myself. Not anymore than I normally would, anyways.

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@Skitter - we’re scum together now apparently, lol

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I think Titus is town, though

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I don’t think she posts like that if she is scum, she’s really trying not to get hyper pocketed by me again.

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Titus, it’s okay to hop in the pocket this time, it won’t be like last time. I promise.

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Give me a chance to redeem myself, for you.

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I’m about 42% ScumSkitter, almost a coin flip level for me. I think the sword fight is good, though, let’s me catch up on a nice book. Very peaceful.

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Skitter, we’re obv masons, Hench and I, solve with that in mind

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Also if flavor has gaslit anyone into believing he is consensus town ATP this is their reality check

If FL is consensus town he is scum. Almost without exception.

I’m almost consensus lean scum right now, only a few players town read me.

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Oh town!spiffeh too, i missed that

Vomits

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Spiffeh just hard OMGUS’d me because I put them in my solve.

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Well he's town regardless of how he's reading u

You have the most political reads I have ever seen.

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And good, Imperium and I are on the same page for once, might be on different paragraphs, but momentarily, same page.

IC to IC.

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He claimed this timestream but i wouldnt be surprised if he misread/mispoke and it was the other one, and i would consider it +town if that happened

Skitter.

What are you even doing.

Skitter is like actually scum, SS.

Like, I don’t know how to case her here, I’ve tried, people don’t like it.

Skitter gets town read by power players as scum.

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Well he's town regardless of how he's reading u

You have the most political reads I have ever seen.

You realize i had that read like well before you repped in, right?

Why does that change the politicalness of them?

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Also if flavor has gaslit anyone into believing he is consensus town ATP this is their reality check

If FL is consensus town he is scum. Almost without exception.

I’m almost consensus lean scum right now, only a few players town read me.

And there are plenty of people town reading me this game, so you're actually in the minority here saying that it's scummy, which is interesting because earlier you also said town, but you're saying I'm saying a lot of scummy things that you're discounting because I usually look like this.

Just gonna point that out

They are both true.

This is a 26 player game.

If 10 are neutral lean scum-scum reading a slot, and 4 people are town reading me.

I don’t get the point of this post, bowl. Stop. You have Flavor Fever.

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Like, I don’t know how to case her here, I’ve tried, people don’t like it.

Make a better case? I'd love to see one

My case is great, you guys just don’t comprehend it, so I need someone to play the role of breaking it down.

I need someone to slingshot me who can grasp my insanity.

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Like, I don’t know how to case her here, I’ve tried, people don’t like it.

Make a better case? I'd love to see one

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Pretend this is the night two PT in xenoblade and effort, man. The receptiveness to your words is there, now fill the words.

First of all, I have already efforted more here than I have there.

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Just because people don’t like the cases, doesn’t mean it’s not better.

I can’t dumb the case down anymore.

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Because I know Skitter

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Skitter is scum.

Spoiler:

Well he's town regardless of how he's reading u

You have the most political reads I have ever seen.

Skitter, we’re obv masons, Hench and I, solve with that in mind

Firebringer, Hench, and LLD, all three in my higher town block, and Skitter is 1 by 1 pushing them down because it weakens my spot in the gamestate.

Skitter is literally just attacking my town block.

You’re using that game as a crutch defense, and it’s not holding up much longer.

Notice skitters turn from town reading to idk reading.

I was on all 4 scum wagons that game, Skitter. If that happens again, that is a positive.

Firebringer and Gamma slot. Really.

Guys, this is killing me.

ScumSkitter is literally taunting me here.

@Noraa - thoughts on Skitter when you get the chance, please.

Last i remember she thinks i'm town cuz i was defending her

lol, Skitter's so scum, but I don't know how to actually push her today.

UNVOTE: Skitter

While I go to sleep, add some pressure in my time off. I wanna see what sprouts from it anyways.

She “Hi, Noraa”’d me immediately. Most times i get called out for answering for someone, this is from a scum perspective, so this is in addition to everything, if you don’t like this, well, don’t use it, there’s plenty more.

My highest town reads and I are all seeing Skitter is scum, independently, I believe they had the read first, maybe not Hench, but Fire definitely did, and this is not scumFire.

She’s playing reactively, and she’s focusing more on discrediting me.

She used the town read me in place of scum push whilst simultaneously discrediting me, the exact move Skitter needs to play against me.

This defends her because if I push her, I look bad because she’s town reading me.

I wrote about the type of play in my scum guide. An early skitter scum game was beside me and Eddie Cane, a partner I am undefeated with. She has her own scum game, but like I know she does some of that stuff as scum.

I’m going to go back and post the moment that I knew she was scum because it’s something that I realized scum doctor more than town when I had an urge to do similar things as scum in another game.

People are targeting me because they’re trying to protect Noraa and Skitter.

I think they are the scum in this game, and people are trying to protect them from the other game.

I was in game of Ilicit for 4 days phases, and 3 of those 4 days were scum hits on people I was pushing hard. It’s okay to go the way of Ilicit, we can handle reading each other now.

Scum are combined in the people town reading Deacon and scum reading me here.

Deacon can enter the townblock. I need to wash the honey I dropped from a bucket on you guys to see what scumprints are there.

Fire and Hench are my strongest town reads, and they both think you're scum here. Hench could be pocketing me, Fire could be wrong. So there are possibilities.

read on Noraa?

I specifically think you are scum discrediting whilst pushing a town read on me.

I have rather strong town reads on HP and Unwnd, so you pushing them alongside discrediting me makes me feel you're scum here, especially because I can sense I'm probably tunneling on town Deacon based on other's reads there, which means scum are TMI'ing Deacon because they think that's a good slot to town read, which means scum are in that social circle.

Also @Skitter - people are chopping at me from all over, you said you felt the same way, if you are town, then this scum team has solid synergy in regards to discrediting and defending, and making things happen.

I'm not sure where i said that, but if i did it might be because you're saying a lot of scummy things that i'm only d discounting because you usually look like this

well, you did say it.

And there are plenty of people town reading me this game, so you're actually in the minority here saying that it's scummy, which is interesting because earlier you also said town, but you're saying I'm saying a lot of scummy things that you're discounting because I usually look like this.

Gamma actually stated how I look different this game than normal, but in a good way.

Hench is hard town reading me.

Firebringer said I'm the only one they're gonna listen to this game.

You and Deacon seem to be trying to chop at me. I don't think you're both town.

I'm reasonably confident that there's scum in the people scumreading me on the other side

Dont know who it is, i can just tell it's happening.
Hp and unwnd stuck out in particular. I'm not saying they're scum for it, but making a note, the progressions dont feel natural and the timing is off but make a lot of sense if they're suddenly aware that i'm gonna be over there at some point most likely

Aside do u 2 still townread annie edison

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Because I know Skitter

So, meta?

Can you provide the last ten games or so you two player together? Just names/links, no need to go in depth, I can judge for myself without either of you giving me slants.

Meta is not the case on Skitter, meta is why it’s different from Ilicit.

You also posted I was being repetitive, but the wall of quotes I posted have vastly different reasons.

You might be tuning them out in your brain so it looks repetitive, but it is not.

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I mean, again, look at the last time you did this

Exactly, last time I did it, I was on 4 back to back scum fades.

There’s that weak crutch defense again.

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Like, I don’t know how to case her here, I’ve tried, people don’t like it.

Make a better case? I'd love to see one

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Pretend this is the night two PT in xenoblade and effort, man. The receptiveness to your words is there, now fill the words.

Oh, i saw my name in the quote, and saw receptiveness as repetitiveness.

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@Hench - I agree with what you said last night about why I am town, I’d be upset if I were scum in that situation. I don’t think it actually helps, but like...lol

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I mean, again, look at the last time you did this

Although looking back the last time you did this you were significantly townier in the process

You flipped like page 20 there, didn’t you?

Don’t try to connect the 2, and you defending yourself to a strong strong town game of mine is silly.

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I also don’t feel townyou would engage me back like this.

You’re actively trying to engage back to me, even though you were town reading me. I actively said I was fine not fading you today earlier.

You wanted me to push you, so I am.

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I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

He was willing to die himself last game first so people would policy someone. Had they listened, they would have hit scum.

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I mean, again, look at the last time you did this

Exactly, last time I did it, I was on 4 back to back scum fades.

There’s that weak crutch defense again.

That's not, you know, what actually happened

Flavor i am trying very very very hard to not get into a 1v1 with you cuz i did that already and it fucked over the gamestate and i dont want to do it again but you're pushing me kinda close and i'm not very good at holding back once i get started

So unless you want to force it (and you said already you dont want to mislim me today) can we just drop this

I’m playing defense here, I’m just a strong counter striker. I’m likely to move away from you, but you keep coming back at me and attacking my town reads.

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@Spiffeh - then why you OMGUS’ing me after I put you as a 6th scum in a way too early solve? I feel that’s entirely an acceptable spot for me to put you.

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I wish people called out appeals to authority as much as they did appeals to emotion on this site

Appeal to authority is tricky because it's often not a fallacy.

He was willing to die himself last game first so people would policy someone. Had they listened, they would have hit scum.

Nope I was just throwing a tantrum and not scumhunting

Hey, you got a Flavor Defense on you, I’d say take it.

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I’m going to try to write a sonnet for Titus later so she knows I’m not trying to pocket her again.

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I. Said. I. Didnt. Even. Know. Who. You. Were. Townreading.
You're drawing some imaginary relationship where i'm going out of my way fo scumread the people you're townreading when i, oddly enough, am not basing my reads around what yours are, i dont even know what most of yours are

You commented directly to my read list.

I’m pretty sure you were the first one in this thread.

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Okay, you weren’t first

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Spoiler:

LAST NIGHT TOMORROW

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HELLLLLLLOOOOOOO

TOWNIES OF TENET

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TENET FO SEINWOT

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This is your hostess with the mostess, the only LEAF THAT BRINGS THE BEEF

FLAVORRRRRRRRRR

Firebringer

- feels same as Xenoblade, and I like a lot of their takes. They might be wrong, but I think they're genuine here. I think my conversations with them have been good, and I don't think they'd attempt to pocket me here. Last time I thought they might, I was wrong, so I'm going to trust that read here.

Lady Lambdadelta

- I really liked when Firebring-LLD-FL triangle was going, I felt like we were on the same page. I didn't think anything was malicious, and I was happy to call this a town block. LLD acted exactly how I expected townLLD to act, a decent amount of aggro, one or two different reads, but really not pushing anything super hard. Maybe confidence in their read, but I wouldn't say they're trying to power tunnel anywhere. Not to say they wouldnt if given the chance, but yeah.

Superbowl9

- I kind of expect them to scum read me here, especially since I just fooled them as scum, and I understand their read and their hero solve, it's just not correct. I also expect them to have incorrect reads, but I believe they believe they are correct. Lean town.

midwaybear

- I made a possible scum case with Midway a little while ago, but I convinced myself there that them forgetting then changing their read on me once they remembered I'm April makes sense coming from town. Scum didn't have to change that. It's actually the most connected comment I think I've had with Midway.

Dandelion Wine (Cephrir/Cabd)

- Nothing's stood out negatively for me. I liked what I saw and seemed genuine. Not my most complex read, but it's one I'm happy with. If something pings me, I'll look into it of course, but yeah.

GFITAC (Gamma Emerald/Dr Easy Bake)

- I pushed a town read, then a scum read, then a town read. I think my initial defense on them made me lean scum on them, but I am back to town reading them because I liked their pop ins. I also think they were extremely close to being faded, and I think that's town indicative based on how it all happened.

Something_Smart

- True Newch. Some people think they're scummy, I havent seen enough of them to know one way or another.

Petapan

- There's been some stuff that pings me, I voted them earlier. I don't know them, though, so I'm still figuring out if they could do this as scum. I understand their posts, though, even though I have a good amount of disconnect with them. Slightly scummy, but neutral really.

Deacon Blues (fferyllt/borkjerfkin)

- Bork was scummy during the Imperium talk. they wanted 5 cookies, I only had 2, then they stuck on it. I also have multiple reads that are directly contradicting with them, so this is a lean scum.

skitter30

- Can't shake this. Skitter was directly going against me, and her town reading me is the exact defense I'd expect her to use as scum against me pushing her specifically because I pushed her that one time when she was IC, which I knew she was actively lying and hiding something. I believe she had claimed Vanilla there even before, but maybe I'm making that last part up, I don't know. I don't like the discussion I had with her. I can see her as town, but something in my gut is screaming something's going on there.

upside down sinkhole (Noraa/JacksonVirgo)

- Scum entry, I don't believe they believe anything they said, and they're trying to find that spot in the game they fit, and I just think that's incredibly scum indicative for her. I could be wrong this time, whereas last time, I really didn't think I was, so food for thought.

Overall, I believe there is specifically not 4 scum in this game, 2 or 3. I might eventually make one of these for the other game.

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Can Noraa convince people to believe that she is not scum here?!?!?

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PART II

Hench Princesses

- I feel like the amount they're town reading me or appearing to town read me doesn't come from scum. This is an insanely weird pocket to make if scum, it's a non zero chance that it's happening, but I feel like that's too risky of a play for them to make because I would catch it? Yeah, I think they're town, they have the same reads as me. If they are scum, they are probably scum with Gamma, but yeah, this is a high town read for me.

Annie Edison

- I was a bit iffy with the switch at first, but I've grown to like it, and I think they're probably town indicative because of it. It's possible I'm being pocketed, but I generally understand what they've been saying, and I felt a mindmeld similar to I did in xenoblade 2 day 2. I easily town read Bulge in Ilicit as well, and became essentially masons with them, so I like this pairing.

unwnd

- Town reading here strongly. I've agreed with some of their takes, and now that I know what their personality is like from Xenoblade, I think this is right in line with town them. I've never seen scum them, though, but I genuinely feel good about this slot. I like that they wanted me to make one of these for this town, meaning they saw some good usage of it, which implies a bit of mind meld.

Almost50

- A50 has an agenda when they are scum. I'm usually pretty good at seeing it too. The fact that Hench had the same read here of thinking A50 is town, but not entirely sure, also makes me more okay with A50. Overtime, this one should be an easy read slot anyways.

Bell

- eh, town. My experience with Bell is he's town, and floats around to the people pushing the game, giving their thoughts, being a reflector, don't see anything different here. I feel I should be able to read them pretty easily if I'm wrong.

Gypyx

- Their small amount of posts I read seemed townie. They seem like a slot that scum is going to try to misfade eventually, and keep there as an eventual misfade, or possible wagon, and it might go through. Probably a misfade this game, which is why I am lean town, if that makes sense. I don't know how else to describe this.

pisskop

- not quite newch, not quite town, but I think the catchup thing is townie ish. scumpisskop can easily get through that, but they said they were excited in the first page, and really, I don't think Pisskop says that if he is actually scum and excited. This is a bad reasoning, and a bad slot, but I like that they're getting thought to switch over, and I might be okay with that. Possibly could be Spiffeh-Pisskop, though.

Imperium

- true newch, even if IC

zmuffinman

- true newch

Shellyc

- true newch

Spiffeh

- This could go either way, but I think I want to lean scum, if only because they fit in a slot where they make sense as like the 6th member, but in a non tiered scum team. They ask a lot of questions, and I think they're kind of fluffy. I don't know them that well, though, so maybe this is town indicative. I don't understand why they are the top ones trying to switch. That's something that's a bit scummy for me.

Brian Skies

- While I don't recognize the play as in meta for scumBrian, we have different reads from when I replaced in, and initially I liked them, but as I got more into the game, it seemed like they were trying to control the game with their posts, at least in a have some type of effect on helping a game go down a specific slide, if that makes sense. It's a lot of their little jab posts that look like an offensive defense for a team.

Titus

- reverse reads, seems to be discrediting me a lot, but I did like the discussion back and forth between us on Superbowl, even though I don't agree that it makes them scum. It feels like Titus is creating reasons that look scummy, and trying to use that to push. Not confident in this because I don't want to be wrong here, but I am scum reading here.

PookyTheMagicalBear

- dude's shadin', and trying to discredit. This can come from scumPooky with scumNoraa, or scumPooky knowing Noraa is town. Either way, Hench pushing there feels good, and I like when we can sync up like that. Good sign.


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Will Imperium and I ever share a common read?!

Is it possible for Bork to let a topic drop?!?

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Super Bowl can go up. Dandelion can go slightly down. Annie can go a tier down. Bell can go a tier down like i said before. Titus can go up.

I’m not sure on my full reads over in that thread anymore.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean i was going to say that (i dont even remember commenting on it at all, i remember glancing over it and dont rmemeber what the content was ...)

When you say things that are factually incorrect it makes me want to correct you and that's what's spurring this. I realy dont want to do this

They’re not factually incorrect from my POV.

[Flavor Leaf]

That disconnect is what you are missing, and it looks like discrediting.

[Flavor Leaf]

You’re also way too defensive for a Day 1 scum read that I have stated has less odds than a coin flip.


You know I’m a giant flip flopped.

That’s also a disconnect.

[Flavor Leaf]

Can't shake this. Skitter was directly going against me, and her town reading me is the exact defense I'd expect her to use as scum against me pushing her specifically because I pushed her that one time when she was IC, which I knew she was actively lying and hiding something. I believe she had claimed Vanilla there even before, but maybe I'm making that last part up, I don't know. I don't like the discussion I had with her. I can see her as town, but something in my gut is screaming something's going on there.

I feel like most of this is inaccurate and/or based on paranoia

Direct quote from my reads list.

[Flavor Leaf]

I even made a hero way too early solve without you in it, you’re just hard overreacting to a day 1 push.

[Flavor Leaf]

if both of you could stop f5ing and making 8000 posts that would be great
-ceph

I’ll only make 7500 posts for your sake then.

[Flavor Leaf]

Would like to mention that Flavor is 4th in postcount - for what exactly? Pushing skittle and derailing the gamma wagon?

Dude, i made 2 giant wall posts, get out of here.

And yeah, you’re my town block. You’re just wrong, and I’ve done so much analysis in this game already.

[Flavor Leaf]

I havent even been really reading most of fl's content because i know if i did i would have responded a lot more

Happens to scum i catch, yeah.

[Flavor Leaf]

Even Spiffeh stated they scum read you now, Skitter.

Y’all should have sent me over.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I said, when there’s a Day 1 and I play like this, there’s always the moment of “Am I crazy or is FL starting to make a lot of sense?”

Always.

[Flavor Leaf]

Would like to mention that Flavor is 4th in postcount - for what exactly? Pushing skittle and derailing the gamma wagon?

Dude, i made 2 giant wall posts, get out of here.

And yeah, you’re my town block. You’re just wrong, and I’ve done so much analysis in this game already.

Readslists. Are. Not. Productive. Content.

Yeah, but you’ve just got a really skewed idea of what is productive and what is not.

This sword fight with Skitter is prime rib level of content.

[Flavor Leaf]

UNVOTE: Purple room Deacon

[Flavor Leaf]

And those reads list were 2 of my posts, countem. 2. That was just free trial for you.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, but you’ve just got a really skewed idea of what is productive and what is not.

This sword fight with Skitter is prime rib level of content.

Can you read? I cite your skittle push as an example of your contribution in the post you quote

I read entire pages in like two seconds, sometimes I miss a few words that bore me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m also trying to lightning rod a bit, but it’s not working as well as I thought it would in this game.

Means scum know not to take the bait.

[Flavor Leaf]

And those reads list were 2 of my posts, countem. 2. That was just free trial for you.

Dude, i made 2 giant wall posts, get out of here.

Your willingness to just put out wrong or misleading information always fascinates me

Yeah, I care very little about Day 1.

I just post in a way where scum think I’m a dumb kill, then I solve Day 3.

Like my scum game has benefited so much from people underestimating my town game.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m Spider-Man stopping the train, sending out web after web, and when we get to the end, I’ll know which threads are attached to scum.

Skitter might very well be my strongest town read come day 2.

[Flavor Leaf]

And those reads list were 2 of my posts, countem. 2. That was just free trial for you.

Dude, i made 2 giant wall posts, get out of here.

Your willingness to just put out wrong or misleading information always fascinates me

Also, this is the same thing, these are both true statements.

[Flavor Leaf]

And those reads list were 2 of my posts, countem. 2. That was just free trial for you.

Dude, i made 2 giant wall posts, get out of here.

Your willingness to just put out wrong or misleading information always fascinates me

Yeah, I care very little about Day 1.

I just post in a way where scum think I’m a dumb kill, then I solve Day 3.

Like my scum game has benefited so much from people underestimating my town game.

No, your disinformation has an agenda. It's not stupid, more malicious (don't take that as an AI statement)

It’s an open agenda, though. I am by no means trying to hide it. Every one of my posts as town have a purpose, regardless if I can put into words what that purpose is.

I change every single Day phase.

Like, just accept the town block, it’s okay.

[Flavor Leaf]

And those reads list were 2 of my posts, countem. 2. That was just free trial for you.

Dude, i made 2 giant wall posts, get out of here.

Your willingness to just put out wrong or misleading information always fascinates me

Also, this is the same thing, these are both true statements.

Correct and they make both of your points meaningless

Yes, this is by design.
It does look like that, but only on a surface level.

[Flavor Leaf]

LLD, Super Bowl, Firebringer, Hench, imperium can join, I guess, maybe Titus.

Town block.

[Flavor Leaf]

I already did, Annie Edison.

Spiffeh, I’m pressuring Noraa. She cracks under it. I think it’s completely fair for me to scum read Noraa if I think her posts are subpar. Worst case scenario, she towns it up.

She hasn’t this game, and I’ve seen multiple people misread Noraa saying she’s obv town as scum, which frankly, I don’t get. Xenoblade she was blatantly scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s an open agenda, though. I am by no means trying to hide it. Every one of my posts as town have a purpose, regardless if I can put into words what that purpose is.

I change every single Day phase.

Like, just accept the town block, it’s okay.

Agreed, but people don't read your posts for the agenda-pushers they are, which is why I'm pointing it out.

Do I look like I'm trying to get you to scumread me?

I disagree with this.

This is how I know I’m correctly town reading you. There’s a lot of players in this game who are slightly familiar with me, and then some who are very familiar with me.

It’s not a fluke that the ones who are very familiar with me are hard town reading me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve put my stake into this game, and I am positioned in a certain spot. I’m closing my eyes, and trying to use the force to feel where scum are around me, and who’s trying to remove me from pulling the sword out of the stone.

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s an open agenda, though. I am by no means trying to hide it. Every one of my posts as town have a purpose, regardless if I can put into words what that purpose is.

I change every single Day phase.

Like, just accept the town block, it’s okay.

Agreed, but people don't read your posts for the agenda-pushers they are, which is why I'm pointing it out.

Do I look like I'm trying to get you to scumread me?

I disagree with this.

This is how I know I’m correctly town reading you. There’s a lot of players in this game who are slightly familiar with me, and then some who are very familiar with me.

It’s not a fluke that the ones who are very familiar with me are hard town reading me.

Appeal to authority

Didn’t know I could appeal to myself. Breaking down walls one by one.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not to the ones hard town reading me I’m not, I’m talking about your average randy joe.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m a mason dude.

[Flavor Leaf]

A spiritual mason.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not to the ones hard town reading me I’m not, I’m talking about your average randy joe.

Which bucket is which, boonleafril?

No clue, I kind of lost what I was talking about with Super, and I’m just saying stuff I think is funny now.

[Flavor Leaf]

You guys know ScumMe is ultra consistent, right?

I haven’t been self meta’ing enough this game. Might try, see what that does

[Flavor Leaf]

When I am the villain of the thread, I am town.

I’m a damn hero scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not to the ones hard town reading me I’m not, I’m talking about your average randy joe.

Which bucket is which, boonleafril?

No clue, I kind of lost what I was talking about with Super, and I’m just saying stuff I think is funny now.

My job here is done then, I'll come back in a few hours to do it again

Same, i want to go away for a bit so people can talk me down, and shove down my town reads, so i can come back and raise me up again.

I also want to write a sonnet for Titus.

[Flavor Leaf]

Spiffeh, you got 4 scum over there, what is that, lol

[Flavor Leaf]

Town!brian

[Flavor Leaf]

I think Spiffeh is just scum.

Especially if Skitter is town.

Skitter can join the town block now that I think about it a bit more.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sigh

Fine, don’t join the town block.

[Flavor Leaf]

I bring up town block to capture scum. Scum see town block, and wanna try to get in it.

I called out 2 scum in my day 1 town block in Ilicit.

[Flavor Leaf]

Apparently being added to your townblock has little to do with your readslists anyway, so~

@Darmok: Agamemnon to the corner pocket.

You found that out firsthand.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, right. Unwnd can join the circle jerk too

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma, they’re gonna kill me tonight and blame it on a Vig.

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t bg me, but i need ya to know that

[Flavor Leaf]

Dandelion and Annie.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Unwnd - scum team is stronger this game, don’t worry about this being like Xenoblade.

[Flavor Leaf]

My trajectory is pretty strong tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor you liar

I tried. I really did, but I’m just sitting on my computer writing so like it’s right here.

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s the point, Spiffeh.

[Flavor Leaf]

Maybe i should just lurk now that I have towncred? People know my stance

Yee, don’t worry, doggie, i gotchu

[Flavor Leaf]

Dandelion and Annie.

?

I just wanted to see what their names together looked like. I did this in Ilicit with Plus and Prism.

[Flavor Leaf]

Incidentally enough, it was scum who was the first to reply to it there, would be interesting, but I’ll leave it to investigations.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Unwnd - that’s why I advocate for quick hammers.

[Flavor Leaf]

@FB - I think it's fine to put possible Scum Deacon even in the purple room. We know it cant be a scum-scum thing.

Issue is if Scum Deacon can pocket the IC.

If I were scum, I'd be looking for ways to do so.

I think it's fine. I don't necessarily scum read Deacon anyways right now. Ffery helped for me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Superbowl
Deacon
Flavor Leaf
Noraa
Firebringer
Skitter

top 6 posters, we might all be town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, were those by DEB? Nice. Yeah, for those of you unaware, I used to sleep on DEB's couch when I was homeless and a vagabond a few times over 2015-2017.

[Flavor Leaf]

Superbowl
Deacon
Flavor Leaf
Noraa
Firebringer
Skitter

top 6 posters, we might all be town.

OHH NOES WHEN DID U FLIP ON SKITTER

she's still a coinflip for me, but there are worlds where I was wrong with her anyways. This is also a world where we're all 6 town, and I'm not...hating it?

[Flavor Leaf]

I just don't expect him to post much ever.

[Flavor Leaf]

Superbowl
Deacon
Flavor Leaf
Noraa
Firebringer
Skitter

top 6 posters, we might all be town.

0% chance of this happening

sick,i think skitter's scum too, and Noraa as well.

Thanks for the reassurance, pal.

[Flavor Leaf]

everybody has a voice in Flavor's townblock.

[Flavor Leaf]

they could just be the different voices in my head, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

Superbowl
Deacon
Flavor Leaf
Noraa
Firebringer
Skitter

top 6 posters, we might all be town.

0% chance of this happening

sick,i think skitter's scum too, and Noraa as well.

Thanks for the reassurance, pal.

Glad we agree that your post was useless!

Incorrect does not equal useless.

That is a surface level thought process.

[Flavor Leaf]

More like I don't care to, and I just move on because it bored me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Most of my posts have a strong playful dry sass to them, but people dont like to read them that way, even though it is written that way.

[Flavor Leaf]

Again, not sure why you're so mad. You want to stick around so you can do.... what exactly?

I’m mad because your case is based in things that JUST ARE NOT TRUE!!!! THAT WAS DEBBIE’S POST NOT MINE, I HAD AN OPINUON ON FB, FL’S PRESENCE DIDN’T MOTIVATE ME AND HAD NO LOGICAL REASON TO, AND YOU’RE BASIVALLY BEING A DICK TO ME OVER IT!!! YOU’VE COMPLETELY WRITTEN ME OFF AS SCUM FOR A SHIT CASE AND YOU HAVE THIS CALLOUS ATTITUDE WHERE YOUCALL MT DEATH NO BIG LOSS!!! ON ONE LEVEL I DON’T MUCH CARE ABOUT WHETHER I LIVE BUT ON ANOTHER I REFUSE TO DIE ATVTHE HANDS OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty sure that was Dandelion who said it, and they might be scum, so

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey, i live in the moment, but each moment is simply an explosion of time, never able to truly be recreated, so why bother spending the time trying

[Flavor Leaf]

ill just throw a vote wherever.

[Flavor Leaf]

pisskop lock town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pisskop, join the party, join the town block, if you come over here, we can mason

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma

Please calm down

i wanna mason you too, but im scared, but gut me wanting to town read you is usually good.

[Flavor Leaf]

while I would say it's sketchy, I actually think Pisskop derp not doing nything based on not being caught up is town indicative of them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dandelion and Annie seeming a lot more plausible.

[Flavor Leaf]

So if skittle flips town can we agree to turn total control of the thread over to me

yeah, i'm down. We take turns leading in this town block, make sure everyone's voice is heard!

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm going to try to take the rest of the night off from reading this. This thread is absolutely nothing but noise.
-ceph

Oooh, this mass hatchet attempt when people are actually coming together is great.

[Flavor Leaf]

And if you don't like that, I don't care.

I do like it.

[Flavor Leaf]

My only cold feet in regards to Skitter is while I'm happy with where people are pushing, it feels like scum would help skitter somewhere, and like they are, maybe they're just not able to combat against our townblock, but I feel if Skitter is town, scum is in the people town reading Skitter still, because "i cant believe town would wagon skitter here" mentality.

[Flavor Leaf]

So if skittle flips town can we agree to turn total control of the thread over to me

i think im more likely to give thread control over to nora than u

Nah...

[Flavor Leaf]

I might be collecting lint somewhere, I am aware. That's something to think about later than possibly reguess myself.

[Flavor Leaf]

My only cold feet in regards to Skitter is while I'm happy with where people are pushing, it feels like scum would help skitter somewhere, and like they are, maybe they're just not able to combat against our townblock, but I feel if Skitter is town, scum is in the people town reading Skitter still, because "i cant believe town would wagon skitter here" mentality.

Aha there it is

i'm just being genuine.

i'll still fade Skitter, and take the heat for it being a misfade if she flips town.

but if I'm right, yeah. this is good.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Skitter - I agree, but it makes me want Dandelion/Annie.

Which of them are scummier to you? What are your reads on both of those slots? I'd like more than just a few sentences from you for this, but you can take your time.

[Flavor Leaf]

Claim now, Skitter, you've already softed, I don't see it as townie. Seems like a scum defense, and I really am not gonna believe you if you wait to E-1.

[Flavor Leaf]

i'll still fade Skitter, and take the heat for it being a misfade if she flips town.

I absofuckinglutey want someone to take you up on that

What? I'll take myself up on that. I'm still town if I misfade you.

That would just make you Alisae from Ilicit, and not Nomnom from that one game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alisae from Ilicit I pushed a hard misfade, but the next 2 day phases we hit scum.

Maria in Titus vs Alisae I pushed hard and it was scum after I said they were obv scum.

I think this one is more likely to be a Maria, but if it's an Alisae wagon, I will take heat for the misfade, and use that to once again correct my reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm still town if I misfade you.

Sounds like something you said in a recent scumgame

probably. i say it like every town game, so makes sense I would say it as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Claim now, Skitter, you've already softed, I don't see it as townie. Seems like a scum defense, and I really am not gonna believe you if you wait to E-1.

I've been softing since p2

why would you do that as town

[Flavor Leaf]

why would you specifically do that as town, skitter? that's a scum case on you, not a town case.

[Flavor Leaf]

Superbowl and I have a legit soul read on each other, but he jokes and calls me scum. It's how we show our affection.

I don't hate that list.

Ffery is syncing up with me decently here, so that's probably town. A few different reads, but actually, ffery's once again probably the most in sync with my reads, we just have a few different scum reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

also turnstiling me is probably a good idea so
VOTE: turnstile: myself

doesn't make you town, skitter. You know this.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor you're exasperating me

and you to me.

How do you think I feel with you discrediting every single read of mine? Why should I ever see you as town for discrediting almost every one of my reads 1 by 1 earlier, and then you overreact hard with my Day 1 read on you, when I literally said it was only like 35%, then it's been steadily raising. It's not passing a coin flip for me today, but that's more than the majority of this game, tbh.

Like, you need to change it up, I'm insanely reactive towards your post, I'm not pushing you except for when people ask why I scum read you.

I actively move on to other slots, and I've been focusing on getting solid town reads today.

You are hard overreacting, and that is why I think you are scum.

If you are town, understand I am completely aware you could be town. I even stated another world where 6 of us were all town, you ignored.

It makes me feel like you don't want me to townread you. Like you just don't.

You seem incredibly fine responding and reacting, and discrediting everything I have to say when I'm trying to focus on finding solid town. I state my thoughts on nearly every single read here.

If you town read me like you say I do, why are you actively discrediting everything I say? If you are town, I'm not opposed to changing my read. You know I flip flop reads, you know I don't put a lot of stock into my Day 1 reads. Day 1 is for gamestate to be decided, and then scum get to mess with it. There has been so much content and analysis that came into the game after my push on you.

No matter what, that has been net positive for the game.

You have seen me solve games as town.

I am having an insanely strong town year, I've lost 2 town games all year. One I had the solve, but final 5, scum played well trying to discredit me all game, because that's what scum do to town me.

Scum either discredit me all game, or they underestimate acting like I'm going to destroy town, which I might push a misfade, but everytime I push a misfade, I solve the game. I will do everything I can to end up with the right read. Do you disagree with that sentiment? If you are town, you are hard hard hard overreacting to a weak Day 1 push on you. I actively stated I didn't care to fade you earlier.

You actively brought this wagon upon yourself by your incessant discrediting of me and my reads. Like, if you had more reasons for your reads, rather than them looking straight up political, I might listen to them more. I'm aware I probably don't have the solve, that's just not something that happens really because scum can take action.

I had scum called out in Taylor/Gamma in a recent Large Day 1, and ABR hard town read me.

My spot in games, I sit, and wait for people to position around me. If they let me lurk out and leave, fine, if I sit here and they try to come after me, fine.

I may go down to a hyena triangle, but I'm going to leave them all licking their wounds.

[Flavor Leaf]

Whether you like it or not, Skitter, there are actual reasons to scum read you in this game. They might be incorrect. They are not poor.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, he's probably gonna go like I was wrong, but I can still be right. skitter, you still are leaning town on him though?

So exactly like Ilicit Substances where immediately after we got 2 back to back scum fades, 1 being you, and I called out you and the 3rd scum as lock scum that day as well.

Bring Midway down a tier.

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The fact that everyone is ok with this is an indicator that something is very wrong here

Because we sword fought in the thread, and I have an actual case on you and you're just reacting.

I guarantee you, if you are town, Skitter, scum are town reading you. Maybe not all scum, sure, but there are likely multiple.

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@Titus - Nah, I dropped LLD from the town block, might have just been an in the moment thing. I still don't scum read her, and she has that one solid interaction I liked with her, so I'm town reading her, but I don't think I'd go to bat for her like I would for Superbowl right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

or Firebringer.

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@Titus - I think you have it backwards. More scum are in that one because this one has more. We have townies fighting each other probably, if Skitter is town, this is 100% confirmed from my POV.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pisskop gave the key to reading me anyways.

Assume I'm town, until I'm not.

Like Ilicit Substances, right, I was obviously town by Day 3, like almost without question, but Day 1 people always be hatin'. I'm just tryna party.

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@Skitter - If you have a role that needs to be over there, claim it at this point. You're already softing a PR, and you're skitter.

It only can help you get protections on you now, we have Gamma over here as well.

I don't understand your thought process behind all this. You antagonized the role that could keep you, a PR, alive.

[Flavor Leaf]

How can I be hilariously wrong?

I literally stated you're a coin flip.

[Flavor Leaf]

You're a PR claim, actively trying to kill off the PR that could keep you alive?

Yeah, skitter's just scum.

Fade this. I'm locked in it.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Pisskop - turnstile over here, or you're gonna die. Let me protect you.

[Flavor Leaf]

How can I be hilariously wrong?

I literally stated you're a coin flip.

You're a PR claim, actively trying to kill off the PR that could keep you alive?

Yeah, skitter's just scum.

Fade this. I'm locked in it.

Back to back? Like I get people think that Flavor is a good player and have meta with him but how do yall let him do this shit to you?

because this is town me, and my scum game's just good at mimicking town me.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Superbowl - go look at the consistency between my posts in the last game you played with me compared to here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Pisskop is blatantly town. There is zero reason for him to act that way as scum, and if scum didn't want Pisskop coming over here, they'd have done something about it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Thank you, oh my goodness. I love you again.

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I'm sure they're different reasons, but still.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor has gained another lackey in this thread then?

Cabd is Father from FMA:B.

I'm Envy.

[Flavor Leaf]

Well one of them that I can't talk about is that watcher and innocent child being able to be in the same timeline on day one is not something I think makes it past the reviewers of this game.

The other one is something I'm not going to reveal now but makes it even weirder and I'm certainly hoping that Deacon sees it too

She's also pushing Gamma, the claimed BG as the only PR claimed in this thread.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm okay with waiting for the fade, I don't think it's necessary this moment by any means.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am gonna channel the SHIT out of flavor leaf this game in as many ways as possible.

Also signing is annoying but ya'll probably need it.

~TDB

looks like you summoned me.

I really didn't mean to post so much this game, I feel skitter just kept coming at me, which is fine, but I think it got overblown.

I also think I see what you mean, and I think that's a likely scum role then, if I'm correct.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wonder if Batman could solve this case on Day 1.

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@Pooky - no, it's not.

@Imperium - we're gonna actively wait, but I think we've decided on our fade. We'll try to wait until you guys are more ready.

[Flavor Leaf]

When skitter flips scum, will you accept the town block, Super?

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Welcome to the party thread.

[Flavor Leaf]

i can only check odd nights

FL, are you thinking what I'm thinking?

=/ probably not.

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@Cabd - I think I see what you're talking about, I have a few theories, but I'll save them for later a la when you were thinking I was hider era in Ilicit.

If I'm alive. I don't expect us to both be alive by Day 3 if we're both town.

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Fwiw I'm somewhat down on FL after his recent posting, I agree with superbowl that it's how he would act as scum to gain control of the game after a strong start.

Jury's still out though, and will be for several days in all likelihood.

this is a beautiful scumthing smart post.

Not saying I think you're scum, i wanna town read you, but like if you do end up being scum, this is a really good post.

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i'm trying to point out he's doing the exact same thing again this time)

I was on every scum wagon that game. If this is a repeat, this is a good thing.