Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Glory and Mel]

honestly no one asked

[Glory and Mel]

Can anyone tell me why anyone would want Venus Mars and Pluto on their team please fill me in as to why

So.... we're town by your reasoning - and whatever 1v1 this is is not useful?

-P

at this moment yes.
There's also the fact I can't think of a reason why you would want to be dissonant with nancy if ur scum and this hydra experience with you and nancy comes across as very dissonant as do most nancy drew hydras are.

[Glory and Mel]

There's also the fact I can't think of a reason why you would want to be dissonant with nancy if ur scum and this hydra experience with you and nancy comes across as very dissonant as do most nancy drew hydras are.

It's obvious I'm nowhere nearly as invested as she is at the moment, no?

-P

ya but you're still reaching different conclusions then she is and thats worth like something

[Glory and Mel]

shut up you fucking mongol honestly
i could build a wall and that would be so powerful it would stop you in ur tracks

[Glory and Mel]

honestly bring back pichu they were cool

[Glory and Mel]

shut up you fucking mongol honestly
i could build a wall and that would be so powerful it would stop you in ur tracks

I'll walk around it

thats impossible

[Glory and Mel]

ya but you're still reaching different conclusions then she is and thats worth like something

With the caveat that a lot of my conclusions are based off very little information compared to hers: if I had strong conclusions I'd have a discussion with Nancy first.

-P

they're still different and that difference is still there

[Glory and Mel]

pichu's on holiday in Johto enslaving the population

you're a war criminal

[Glory and Mel]

they're still different and that difference is still there

And I'm also totally fine with Nancy overriding any of my conclusions while they're at this level of strength.
Gahhh I think the versus nature of the game could be a factor in my lack of motivation to participate

-P

that doesn't change what I said

[Glory and Mel]

why are you arguing with Auro about why they're town?

beats me

[Glory and Mel]

why are you arguing with Auro about why they're town?

The entire way they’ve been interacting with my slot screams that they very clearly tr us yet they continue to hard push us. That makes 0 sense if they’re town, at least Skitter has been consistent.

maybe it would make more sense to understand im not pushing oyu at this moment?

[Glory and Mel]

can you just shut up?

[Glory and Mel]

holy shit ur so annoying

[Glory and Mel]

THIS ARGUEMENT IS POINTLESS

[Glory and Mel]

Is she trying to convince me I'm scum or something I don't get it why is she talking to me?
I don't want to engage in conversation with her and thats mybad that I pulled the pin on the grenade that was 5728

like at this point she's just being annoying and this isn't even productive conversation :/

[Glory and Mel]

that doesn't change what I said

You said you were confused at my being OK with hydra dissonance; it's simply because my conclusions are currently mostly weaksauce / based on little info and hence I'm cool with Nancy -- who's been invested -- having the opposite reads.

Nancy, it might be healthy for us to disengage...

-P

im saying i don't see the scum!motivation in being dissonant here and reaching different conclusions. You are townlocking me and thats a diff conclusion than what nancy has. I don't see the scum motivation in even outing this read.

[Glory and Mel]

I would need a lot of people to flip town for me to consider skitter

[Glory and Mel]

shut up you fucking mongol honestly
i could build a wall and that would be so powerful it would stop you in ur tracks

Ali plz no

that was to one of hectics alts what its shitposting

[Glory and Mel]

[Glory and Mel]

UNVOTE: unwnd
idfk why ali is voting here but I do not approve

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

@Glory and Mel - Can you guys track Ydrasse tonight?

Unfortunately not unless a) Hectic does something I don't believe is in his interests and b) we get lucky

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

if it's just to target ydrasse that works
but it's gonna be a no result

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

because she's below you on the playerlist?

yeah

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

unwnd gamma emerald typed in all caps "WHY ARE WE VOTING UNWND"
so I'm going to need a reason why I should vote you that can convince gamma.

[Glory and Mel]

VOTE: tweetie

scrubber cheap fix

VOTE: morning tweet

[Glory and Mel]

Ydra what is this avatar?

[Glory and Mel]

VOTE: firebringer

[Glory and Mel]

what?

[Glory and Mel]

tbh i don't rly know whats going on but okay sure put people on my wagon i wanna see how inflated my wagon gets with scum holy moly

[Glory and Mel]

whatever my elim is practically guarenteed at this point.
lolvillage ig

[Glory and Mel]

Glory - Fire, Tweetie, unwnd, VMP, xtoxm, catboi, hopkirk thats flip

[Glory and Mel]

Fire's behavoirs don't make sense and probably aren't coming from town.
unwnd voting with tweetie makes absolutely no sense and I'm questioning what is going on with that
xtoxm probably joins my wagon because in a weird sense he's right and its very valid to
vmp just ya lol
catboi probably joins cuz he had a scumread on me and he's also just scum

[Glory and Mel]

true

[Glory and Mel]

i mean ig
its still annoying to deal with tho

VOTE: catboi

[Glory and Mel]

i honestly just don't know how anyone can conclude that my gameplay comes from scum this game

[Glory and Mel]

Flavor wants to kill you?
kitty, how are you reading Glory?

Might be scum? The way Alisae entered felt like it could be trying to cast aspersions on a bunch of people and try to take control of the game a little bit and I realized my reasons for townreading Gamma weren't all that great

how is this not getting more attention btw

[Glory and Mel]

it feels wrong

[Glory and Mel]

btw

@Unwnd, Skitter, FL, VMP

what do we think of this?

Flavor wants to kill you?
kitty, how are you reading Glory?

Might be scum? The way Alisae entered felt like it could be trying to cast aspersions on a bunch of people and try to take control of the game a little bit and I realized my reasons for townreading Gamma weren't all that great

I dont really agree but i dont really have any thoughts on catboi saying it either

[Glory and Mel]

btw

@Unwnd, Skitter, FL, VMP

what do we think of this?

Flavor wants to kill you?
kitty, how are you reading Glory?

Might be scum? The way Alisae entered felt like it could be trying to cast aspersions on a bunch of people and try to take control of the game a little bit and I realized my reasons for townreading Gamma weren't all that great

Disagree, didn't feel like Alisae was trying to take control, rather e was just meh about everything and that felt towny

Saw that Fire posted Catboi wall, must read

-P

[Glory and Mel]

like the narative just feels not true

[Glory and Mel]

feels more like scum trying to spin a narative that's just not true

[Glory and Mel]

and also honestly it feels like the amount of people that are scumreading me feels super inflated which makes me think scum need me in their PoE

[Glory and Mel]

Like now I'm re-reading my ISO and its just not true like nothing in here is really trying to take control of the game.
If anything for the most part early I've conceded control and gave that to most of the other players while feeling strongly about things like "Skitter isn't scum" "Lunar isn't scum"

[Glory and Mel]

Like the whole narative just reads untrue

[Glory and Mel]

Chara/Skitter are being dealt with through night actions is why we're not going there. They very well might be the ones to be killed by Unwnd hammer.

man this is just so lazy :/

[Glory and Mel]

but like
im getting catboi anyways so its fine

[Glory and Mel]

like come on at least try to sort skitter and chara
you're not going to get better at sorting them if you don't try christ

[Glory and Mel]

FL on the surface this feels like ur just not putting in work

[Glory and Mel]

Chara/Skitter are being dealt with through night actions is why we're not going there. They very well might be the ones to be killed by Unwnd hammer.

man this is just so lazy :/

Why so? Mechanical results are a lot more reliable, no?

-P, continuing to be useless

Okay but the problem is that it seems like no one wants to try to put in the effort to read the slot and they just have to rely on night actions like its just so disappointing

[Glory and Mel]

doesn't matter honestly it just triggers me

[Glory and Mel]

meh
UNVOTE:

[Glory and Mel]

i think i am gonna get food. wht does everyone want i will make a food run for this game/

if fire ends up being scum, this definitely is food tell

that's not what food tell is

my b
just insta-reacted without checking which game this was

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

Subject: Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

I see. Was there any basis, or was it truly all in jest? I recall seeing this same idea put forth in a more serious light in the past.

I mean... I was stating that I was going to cook dinner, so "food tell" was a self-reference.

In the past, it was a sort of tell but has since been discredited.

The "tell" was something like this:

"I'm going to make dinner"
vs
"I'm cooking up tortellini in a light homemade cream sauce with sausage and salmon for the protein, along with some sprouts brushed with olive oil and a maple garlic seasoning rub, sauteed in butter"

That the latter was scum indicative in a way that the first one was not.

i dunno about thaaat...

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

but yeah it's not really a tell (probably)

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

ya idunno i get bad feels about the wagon but i could be wrong

[Glory and Mel]

either way
we won't be hammering we and by we i mean i want to see the one who hammers

[Glory and Mel]

VOTE: catboi
you're not fading us here.

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

>says scum are afraid to touch him
>shades my vote
sure, that's logical

-Glory

[Glory and Mel]

Our track targets were garbage so the best option we had for tracking that wouldn’t fail was checking MT ascetic which she is in fact ascetic.
Ike I have no reason to track Hopkirk or star crossed or unwnd and tracking skitter again is just pointless so...

[Glory and Mel]

Doesn’t matter honestly this game seems over also don’t know why you dumb people think catboi transition from townreading gamma into scumreading us is like theatre ever.

[Glory and Mel]

But like we’re not thinking about the game logically anymore we’re thinking about it based on our emotions and magical thinking so based on these 2 styles of thinking we can in fact come to the conclusion that glory scum hammered catboi even tho glory is never scum with catboi nope they scum hammered catboi guys

[Glory and Mel]

Our track targets were garbage so the best option we had for tracking that wouldn’t fail was checking MT ascetic which she is in fact ascetic.
Ike I have no reason to track Hopkirk or star crossed or unwnd and tracking skitter again is just pointless so...

could be Sticky Fruit'd

They had to be stickies fruit n1 or before fires action then

[Glory and Mel]

Anyhow doesn’t matter this game should be over no?

[Glory and Mel]

Our track targets were garbage so the best option we had for tracking that wouldn’t fail was checking MT ascetic which she is in fact ascetic.
Ike I have no reason to track Hopkirk or star crossed or unwnd and tracking skitter again is just pointless so...

could be Sticky Fruit'd

They had to be stickies fruit n1 or before fires action then

they said yesterday that hey targetted mt and they were ascetic


what was fire's action?

[Glory and Mel]

I wrote in the quote cuz I’m on mobile my bad

[Glory and Mel]

So what ydra is scum and the last one is in [mt, skitter, chara, vmp]?

[Glory and Mel]

Sounds like the game is over to me!

[Glory and Mel]

its always Ydra right FL?

[Glory and Mel]

its always Ydra right FL?

im trying to cover all the bases, but i *believe* so


i still dont want votes there yet, though.


I colored Starcrossed and Chara green for now, because if there isn't an Invert somewhere, I don't think it's possible for Starcrossed to be scum, however, if there is an invert he likely is.

I think we always vote Ydra because we want our track to become a cop shot as soon as possible

[Glory and Mel]

hopkirk - mason
unwnd - seems townie enough, I can confirm them tonight actually so it should be fine
xtoxm - loyal mailman, hectic has to deal with it eventually
lunar - i dunno but its probably town
starcrossed - confirmed by xtoxm and will have ot be deal with later by hectic
glory - after killing scum we become a cop and we have to be dealt with by hectic otherwise he will lose the game.VMP - seems kinda townie now

VMP - seems kinda townie out of the rest but wouldn't be impossible for them to be scum.
mt - leftovers but is probably town due to them getting votes from scum (Dann + Catboi)
chara - leftovers
skitter - i would be lieing if i said that them wanting to not vote catboi came from town because when i asked them about catboi's really weird angle on me, they had no comment and it seemed like they couldn't defend it but they didn't want to attack it either.

[Glory and Mel]

I don't see why I should put anymore effort into solving this game I think the game is over and usually whenever I said that the game is over its been over

[Glory and Mel]

POOKY

[Glory and Mel]

FURRET

[Glory and Mel]

KANNA

[Glory and Mel]

my gut says its not skitter

[Glory and Mel]

its also pointless to dwell on if its skitter or not xtoxm should come in and confirm/deny it soon anyways

[Glory and Mel]

i mean xtoxm and I have no where to go after killing a guiltied ydra

[Glory and Mel]

its also pointless to dwell on if its skitter or not xtoxm should come in and confirm/deny it soon anyways

there's a possibility that there's a role that can get around Loyal/Disloyal.

And I think we might be living in that scenario.

I think Ydrasse might have that role.

don't care about it till i see it

[Glory and Mel]

Yes scum are screwed

[Glory and Mel]

I don't think there's a single player in the playerlist that can win the game if they're scum.

[Glory and Mel]

like this game is over lol

[Glory and Mel]

nah, i think scum have an inverted modifier, so i think theyre still scum

HOLY SHIT FL

[Glory and Mel]

What evidence do you have to support your claim buddy

[Glory and Mel]

Oh so you just trust your own reads over mechanics for what reason?

[Glory and Mel]

That's not hard evidence FL we can't kill Skitter because you think scum could have some inverted role.
At least not now.

[Glory and Mel]

And also if you encourage it, hectic will take it as an opportunity to gaslight you as the game goes on longer and longer
just don't encourage that shit please.

[Glory and Mel]

That's why I don't trust the Ydrasse thing either.

I came into this day thinking scum was Skitter/Glory.

VCA backed that up as well.

I'm not sure it's correct, but I do think 1 scum is in there at least.

Lunar Martian is my backup

READ CATBOI'S ISO HELLO?

[Glory and Mel]

he legit turned on his gamma read as soon as he replaced in and tried to spin the narative that I was playing with an agenda and trying to control the game

[Glory and Mel]

why are you assuming scum theatre not a thing? Catboi was bussing the entirety of the game for the most part

I'm not assuming theater is not a thing. I'm just stating the evidence.
Based on Catboi's ISO, I would be reading my slot as town due to the fact on how quickly Catboi flipped on his read and played it does not come from SvS.
but you probably thing anything can be anything so like why even bother trying to sort that stuff ig /shrug

[Glory and Mel]

Flavor wants to kill you?
kitty, how are you reading Glory?

Might be scum? The way Alisae entered felt like it could be trying to cast aspersions on a bunch of people and try to take control of the game a little bit and I realized my reasons for townreading Gamma weren't all that great

When he wrote this post this player did not have any reason to believe he was in danger

[Glory and Mel]

Also if I actually am scum with Catboi, I stay on the wagon.
As scum I can just stay on Catboi when you suggest that as an alternative and I have no reason to hop off. That's just not something I do as scum. I definitely didn't try to save him I just said I didn't want to participate in the wagon. That's just not something I do as scum man.

[Glory and Mel]

ur actually delusional! OH MY GOD

[Glory and Mel]

If you wrote 6600 just to trigger me
congrats
I am triggered

[Glory and Mel]

holy shit

[Glory and Mel]

I bet you also think that Renekton and Gnar are good champions as well oh my god

[Glory and Mel]

they're picked a lot in pro play

[Glory and Mel]

way too much as a matter of fact

pedit: KILL ME

[Glory and Mel]

While ur at it why don't you twist the knife ya

pedit: Anivia is a good champion right now

[Glory and Mel]

tbh i haven't played in a bit but im a yummi 1 trick who can also play mundo rammus and amumu pretty well in the jungle

[Glory and Mel]

oh its you Lunar?

[Glory and Mel]

i can't say if you played well or not honestly because truth is i didn't really read but on a glance you seemed ok? I wouldn't take that to heart tho i didn't read

[Glory and Mel]

also watch it you might get banned for not playing to wincon in a unwinnable game where achieving your wincon is impossible!

[Glory and Mel]

oh then what are you doing with 6616?

[Glory and Mel]

o

[Glory and Mel]

can u read the room?
its not really appropriate to make that kinda of joke in this gamestate someone could take it seriously

[Glory and Mel]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Glory and Mel]

only a Martian could say that

[Glory and Mel]

also why are you voting me?

[Glory and Mel]

Hopkirk
skitter30
Morning Tweet
unwnd
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra)
Flavor Leaf
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald and Alisae)
Chara
Xtoxm
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro)
Hectic
Lunar Martian

Kill Ydra

I track Unwnd
Chara vends whatever to any of {Glory, Starcrossed, Hopkirk, xtoxm, unwnd, Skitter}, preferibly skitter.
1 of {Glory, Starcrossed, Hopkirk, xtoxm, unwnd, Skitter} get shot

remaining pool of suspects are
{Chara, MT, VMP, Lunar}

how does village lose this game btw?

[Glory and Mel]

I don't know what F3 scum will build tho but it should be easy to figure out who is scum in F3 once we're inside F3.

[Glory and Mel]

tho honestly I'm going to be real here:
I don't want it to go to F3. Hectic could have some kind of button that he needs to press to autowin the game in F3 nope no sir I wanna avoid that if at all possible.

[Glory and Mel]

oh you're just lolcatting ok

[Glory and Mel]

you won't be alive in F3 sadly.

[Glory and Mel]

lunar can go tomorrow

[Glory and Mel]

it should be ydra today
lunar tomorrow
VMP the next day

[Glory and Mel]

What is Lunar's role?

[Glory and Mel]

eh ig that information isn't something i need to know i don't think i care or it changes anything

[Glory and Mel]

rolestopper

what were his actions?

[Glory and Mel]

Hopkirk - Mason
skitter30 - Rightside down Miller
Morning Tweet - Ascetic Miller
unwnd - hated supersaint but wait there's more
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - neighborizers the bottom 2 players and removes ascetics
Ydrasse - 1-shot rightside up cop
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald and Alisae) - Rightside up Tracker
Chara - Song vendor
Xtoxm - (Ascetic) Mailman Odd-Night Loyal, Even-Night disloyal
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Ascetic
Lunar Martian - Rolestopper

[Glory and Mel]

The Rolestopper probably isn't town.

[Glory and Mel]

no townies flipped with the ability to stop kills so I think town doesn't have anything that can stop kills because its one of Hectics rules.

[Glory and Mel]

FL is there any evidence that suggests that Hectic knew you were targetting Ydra with anything in any PT?

[Glory and Mel]

I mean the whole thing seems sketchy to me.
Mostly everything else is gated/weakened/modified to a degree
it just feels out of place.

Ydra's fakeclaim was better

[Glory and Mel]

Lunar you're not a player anymore nothing you post matters

[Glory and Mel]

TRUE

[Glory and Mel]

MT the game is over

[Glory and Mel]

That should be good news if ur town and bad news if ur scum

[Glory and Mel]

no ydra is scum

[Glory and Mel]

she's guiltied

[Glory and Mel]

Why did scum kill fire and not xtoxm or like any other townie is beyond me

they were probably more worried about a TA clear than xtoxm's clear

[Glory and Mel]

also Fire claimed it as a PT cop so it was more stronger than it actually was.

[Glory and Mel]

good play honestly from Fire you have to respect that a lot tbh

[Glory and Mel]

thats the kinda kill you make when you know you're fighting an uphill battle.

[Glory and Mel]

FL is there any evidence that suggests that Hectic knew you were targetting Ydra with anything in any PT?

yes, he knows i wanted to protect her probably.

i mean does anything you posted that hectic could scream "I am going to target this player and do something"
I'm not sure if you knowing that you wanted to protect her before N1 implies that specifically but you would know better than me

[Glory and Mel]

regardless the only way you look at it it, it seems like {Ydra, Lunar} are the only people that get considered to die this phase regardless. No one outside of this pool should die for obvious reasons

[Glory and Mel]

MT I think you could be apart of a scumteam not as the main carry ofc but you would probably make a good supporting piece

[Glory and Mel]

you were probably first picked tbh

[Glory and Mel]

MT I think you could be apart of a scumteam not as the main carry ofc but you would probably make a good supporting piece

the main carry for the scum team is Hectic lol

TRUE

[Glory and Mel]

ur hydra is too good for krazy and hectic to not want

[Glory and Mel]

if hectic drafts pooky + kanna
- he gets pooky who is amazing at scum
- he denies kanna from the town
- and also gets kanna

if krazy gets pooky + kanna
- he gets kanna
- he denies pooky from hectic

[Glory and Mel]

you were probably first picked tbh

nah Hectic probly didn't have faith in me

wow hectic must really fumbled draft then

[Glory and Mel]

ah yes the 600 IQ wine play
ofc
no one has ever done the 600 IQ wine play and gotten away with it

[Glory and Mel]

i cant believe people actually think Flavor Leaf Loyal Neighborized Ydrasse this is kind of hilarious

did he not?

[Glory and Mel]

I am very fucking snowed by her response to FL honestly vibes etc

the person that's very good at this stuff is doing a very good job at doing this stuff

[Glory and Mel]

so i guess we'll just do what we did yesterday, and talk amongst ourselves for a week, then see where that takes us

can we just get to the part where we kill people?

[Glory and Mel]

if not im afk unless someone says something thats really stupid.

[Glory and Mel]

Well I'm AFK unless someone says something stupid or something goes seriously wrong.

bye

[Glory and Mel]

HEY
STOP HAVING FUN

[Glory and Mel]

NO FUN ALLOWED

FUN IS BANNED

[Glory and Mel]

I have silenced the fun

my job is done
I will go back to AFKing

[Glory and Mel]

We have Dunn’s
VOTE: xtoxm

[Glory and Mel]

UNVOTE:

[Glory and Mel]

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Glory and Mel]

lolmods

[Glory and Mel]

like Alisae's probably both laughing and annoyed at the situation right now

im afk
this game should be over but i don't rly care anymore so...

[Glory and Mel]

and if you think this is the my new way of not playing unwinnable games as scum then feel free to test that and kill me.
we should be flipping scum today but if you wanna throw thats ok too honestly.
I don't care enough about a game where I couldn't join at gamestart because I got banned, replaced in on day 3, and when I do get to play people just want to not play the game properly or critically think about the game. Now we're at the point where we don't have to play the game properly because we're in auto but you continue to make bad decisions so honestly, its fine.

If you want to lose the game you can do it by your own hand that's fine honestly.

[Glory and Mel]

like honestly you'll flip skitter and you'll go "GASP SHE WAS TOWN NO WAY" and I'll just be here telling you "yes ofc she was town but you scumread her just because oh wow its skitter what an amazing scumplayer guys all of the signs pointed to her but she was town???? She even had an inno on her anyways but let's kill her anyways"

its so gross man.

If she's scum I'll take the L but like I still just think she's town :/

[Glory and Mel]

this game is over so I'm not going to put effort into winning it because I can't win against you. If you want to blunder go ahead.

[Glory and Mel]

@G & M, they’re obviously both town from this, so you should unvote Xtoxm.

this is why i thought you were an annoying player.
in one of FakeGod's games you literally just AtE'd the shit out of it and that was annoying but there's also the fact that you literally do not read and ontop of that you're also just annoying cuz if u read u would have seen that i already unvoted and voted ydra like

idunno i guess I'm just having an episode where I just hate everyone and everything ig and I'm just being edgy ig

[Glory and Mel]

it's confirmed not an inno, Glory, because of Pooky's role.

it's literally the inverted thing i talked about earlier

maybe I'm just misunderstanding you then

[Glory and Mel]

@G & M, they’re obviously both town from this, so you should unvote Xtoxm.

this is why i thought you were an annoying player.
in one of FakeGod's games you literally just AtE'd the shit out of it and that was annoying but there's also the fact that you literally do not read and ontop of that you're also just annoying cuz if u read u would have seen that i already unvoted and voted ydra like

idunno i guess I'm just having an episode where I just hate everyone and everything ig and I'm just being edgy ig

like i moved on from the former but the ladder is just how you play the game you can't really fix that :/

[Glory and Mel]

even while i was modding pokemon battles your reading comprehension was just awful and I didn't even really pay attention to that game because you asked for votecounts when literally no votes have changed since the last votecount but ya ig im just being super edgy right now

[Glory and Mel]

it's confirmed not an inno, Glory, because of Pooky's role.

it's literally the inverted thing i talked about earlier

maybe I'm just misunderstanding you then

Pooky's role actively made it so Loyal would work on scum if targeted.

So since Skitter was hit by Pooky's action, loyal moves worked on scum, and disloyal would work on town.

It's the thing you said you needed to believe what I was talking about earlier.

it's like officially outed now, i called it out correctly there was something that did that

if thats the case and if im reading what pooky is saying correctly then ya idunno idc anymore
VOTE: skitter
have my vote you do what you want its your game

[Glory and Mel]

@G & M, they’re obviously both town from this, so you should unvote Xtoxm.

this is why i thought you were an annoying player.
in one of FakeGod's games you literally just AtE'd the shit out of it and that was annoying but there's also the fact that you literally do not read and ontop of that you're also just annoying cuz if u read u would have seen that i already unvoted and voted ydra like

idunno i guess I'm just having an episode where I just hate everyone and everything ig and I'm just being edgy ig

Whatever you’re dealing with, I don’t deserve this from you.

its not your fault sorry its being taken out on you

[Glory and Mel]

honestly, skitter slot i really think needs to be flipped anyways.

a town flip by skitter should put us on the right path anyways

it peoples YOU on the right path.
who the fuck is "us"

[Glory and Mel]

puts*

[Glory and Mel]

literally FL the game is at the point where if you point at someone and say "they need to die" no one will argue against you and they will just be super fucking obedient.
This isn't a game of mafia anymore.

[Glory and Mel]

im going back to AFKing and reading my light novel
my days so far have just been shit and i hate my life and i just feel like being super edgy and taking it out on a mafia game. no one is at fault it just is what it is.

[Glory and Mel]

sadly xtoxm, the 3 musketeers of me you and skitter aren't enough to outvote town :/

[Glory and Mel]

and like idunno idc anymore maybe if more people start caring but like i really just couldn't care.

In protest I'ma just vote this and leave. At least try to seek some kind of compromise.
VOTE: lunar
Like the dude is literally just lolcatting man I don't get it. It's like he's trying to tell us he's scum.

[Glory and Mel]

I am going to encourage the other musketeers in xtoxm and skitter to come join me out of protest.
like idunno guys, lunar's play seems really anti-town if town and pretty pro-scum/openwolfing.

[Glory and Mel]

skitter30 - Rightside down Miller
If she's not clear then like tbh I can't really defend this, but I don't think its scum and I'll take the L if it is. Her day 3 seemed pretty ok. 6964 is good for FL but at the same time this actually doesn't nothing for me. I need to see how he reached those conclusions and if cased it I would give it an honest read.
Like Gamma tracked her N2 so far we only know of scum who can do things within the game. Catboi and Dann both had roles that did things so like she seems most likely town than not but this isn't very strong.

Hopkirk - mason
enough said

unwnd - hated supersaint thing
play doesn't seem scum motivated and is honestly just a waste of time to talk about right now. Like who cares honestly?

Morning Tweet - ascetic miller
leftovers, not as town as VMP or Chara but not as scummy as Lunar
I'd vote it

wtf is this combination of roles tho

Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - targets on top and bottom player of the pl will always work.
conf via xtoxm and has a role that is proven to be legit. If Skitter is mafia, then their role is real. If Skitter is a miller, then their role is real. If Skitter is not a miller or mafia then I have no idea what the fuck is going on in this game.
Really wish tho that Pooky didn't mislead with saying he removes millers and ascetics but it's Pooky so it doesn't bother me as much as it should.

@Pooky how would my role interact with that?

Ydrasse - 1-shot rightside up cop
Apparently was guiltied by FL. Has done nothing that's townie throughout the whole game.
This seems really strong considering the amount of the investigatives that are in the game.

Chara - Poem Vendor
seems more townie than the leftovers

Xtoxm - Ascetic Loyal/Disloyal Mailman
role seems townie and pretty solid and has townie moments. His response to my tracker claim was pretty legit before I claimed the rightside up part.
Ascetic makes sense to be apart of his role since if I just tracked him all game it would be pretty overpowered.

Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - Ascetic
seems more townie than the leftovers
Evidence of this is that nancy's play seems probably townie, hectic probably doesn't draft them, and auro's response to hearing that something could turn off ascetics was really good btw. Its weird that you see Auro doing something like that but not MT btw.
Auro has also just been town whenever he's been around as well.

Hectic
bullies pichus

Lunar Martian - Rolestopper
why is his d4 so anti-town and pro-scum
why is this the only protective role in the game
why does it have no limitations
why is it a Rolestopper with no modifiers attached to it
why did hecitc draft this player
why does this make town look like it has a lot power
what is this play this dayphase btw

[Glory and Mel]

I tr lunar martian on his reaction to my bullshit claim in the hood, I'd think if he was in a PT with Hectic, Hectic would've just told him I was full of shit and he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

also as a leashed rolestopper, he kind of has to keep the revealed mason alive and I'm not sure how much longer Hectic can afford to kill around him if he were actually town here.

this could be valid

[Glory and Mel]

Never voting today - Hopkirk, xtoxm, starcrossed, unwnd*
kinda town - chara, VMP, Skitter
Whatever - Ydra, MT, Lunar
VOTE: MT

[Glory and Mel]

xtoxm come vote MT?
Tho you might be putting her at L-1 if you do.

[Glory and Mel]

Idunno Pooky the setup seems really inbalanced with a Rolestopper. Town has a lot going for it.

[Glory and Mel]

Actually if Ydra is scum why did she move up the playerlist and above me?

[Glory and Mel]

Like she's giving me the opportunity to track her on this cycle
why as scum would she do that?

[Glory and Mel]

Yeah Ydra has beeing climbing up the playerlist since the start of the game
why is this happening?

[Glory and Mel]

oh wait no I misread her role she needs to be ABOVE people to get investigation results on them

[Glory and Mel]

that actually checks out.
VOTE: Lunar
Assuming FL did try to loyal neighborize Ydra and failed, this is something I'm interested in flipping because this could be the reason why that action failed.
It's probably correct to vote Lunar/MT before Ydra so lets go with this.

pedit: ty pooky

[Glory and Mel]

Like Lunar "forgot" his n1 action between Jan 19th - Jan 22nd but he was posting on site during those dates so I'm not sure how thats possible?

[Glory and Mel]

btw now that I think about it, I need to remind myself that lunar flipping mafia would not clear Ydra.

[Glory and Mel]

So I'll vote MT and Lunar today.
There's no way in hell I'll consider Skitter without those 2 dead first.

[Glory and Mel]

I'll also maybe vote Ydra.
That MT or Lunar are my votes for the day.

[Glory and Mel]

Actually you know what.
This game should actually be over guys.
guys.
guys.
the game is over.

Kill in {Lunar, Ydra, MT}
Ydra flipping town = Chara town
If all 3 of those flip town go Skitter then welcome to F3 if that's not GG. Losing to scum!VMP would kinda suck but I feel like going Skitter here is correct because people think I can be teamed with Skitter even tho when I replaced in that doesn't really make sense why me as scum would vote skitter at teh start of my catch up when i know it doesn't matter when she's someone whose abilities I recognize and would like to powerwolf the rest of the game with her w/o voting or distancing or bussing or any of that really stupid stuff.

If Skitter is scum and I'm still alive then F3 is gonna be kinda hard I'm going to have to get serious.

[Glory and Mel]

no way in hell all 3 of {Lunar Ydra, MT} are town.
The rest of the playerlist is just so much more townie man.

[Glory and Mel]

"I'm going AFK btw"

[Glory and Mel]

Hopkirk - Can get shot
skitter30 - Likely lives till F5, no reason to shoot
Morning Tweet - no reason to shoot
unwnd - no reason to shoot
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - Can get shot
Ydrasse - no reason to shoot
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald and Alisae) - can get shot but can justify not getting shot if skitter is scum and I end up leading the charge on {Lunar, Ydra, MT} who all happen to flip town
Chara - no reason to shoot while ydra is alive. Becomes a viable shot if Ydra is town.
Xtoxm - can get shot
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - no reason to shoot
Lunar Martian - can get shot but is also just too sus to let live.

If Lunar flipped @ day this is likely what F5 looks like if there is still 2 scum left by the time we get here:
Hopkirk
skitter30
unwnd
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald and Alisae)
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro)

If Lunar isn't flipped this is what F5 looks like if he gets shot
Lunar Martian
Hopkirk / Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra)
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) / unwnd / chara
skitter30
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald and Alisae) / unwnd / chara

[Glory and Mel]

I tr lunar martian on his reaction to my bullshit claim in the hood, I'd think if he was in a PT with Hectic, Hectic would've just told him I was full of shit and he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

also as a leashed rolestopper, he kind of has to keep the revealed mason alive and I'm not sure how much longer Hectic can afford to kill around him if he were actually town here.

+1

I think catboi’s role makes sense with a town rolestopper because why would scum need a scum rolestopper when they have stickyfruit?

sticky fruit is a pure defensive tool that you likely don't want to let town know exists. Rolestopper can disrupt town without leaving any traces.

[Glory and Mel]

I tr lunar martian on his reaction to my bullshit claim in the hood, I'd think if he was in a PT with Hectic, Hectic would've just told him I was full of shit and he wouldn't have taken me seriously.

also as a leashed rolestopper, he kind of has to keep the revealed mason alive and I'm not sure how much longer Hectic can afford to kill around him if he were actually town here.

+1

I think catboi’s role makes sense with a town rolestopper because why would scum need a scum rolestopper when they have stickyfruit?

sticky fruit is a pure defensive tool that you likely don't want to let town know exists. Rolestopper can disrupt town without leaving any traces.

[Glory and Mel]

If Lunar isn't flipped this is what F5 looks like if he gets shot
Lunar Martian
Hopkirk / Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra)
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) / unwnd / chara
skitter30
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald and Alisae) / unwnd / chara

wait no skitter would probably die if we're letting him live till F5 since they would go F7.
This should probably be

Lunar
Hopkirk / Starcrossed
and then some combination of Glory, Unwnd, Chara, VMP

[Glory and Mel]

also Rolestoppers can protect you from guns where as Sticky Fruit can't.

[Glory and Mel]

o wat catboi's pm literally describes sticky fruit working how a rolestopper could work im confused then

[Glory and Mel]

sticky fruit only does its thing the night of huh

[Glory and Mel]

ya ok that seems WAY stronger than a rolestopper what

[Glory and Mel]

maybe that could be osmething that town has that exists
VOTE: mt

[Glory and Mel]

I would like to test the rolestop then

[Glory and Mel]

Oh okay ya its really easy to test the rolestop.
Whoever Lunar rolestops should be known to Chara and Chara can send that player a poem

[Glory and Mel]

UNVOTE:
not voting until Chara confirms they'll send poems to whoever lunar is targetting