Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Flavor Leaf]

I disagree with your assumption that you don't need to here

[Flavor Leaf]

im only like 65% on catboi, i'd say, im not surprised if actually VT.

I just think it's the optimal fade here, and have for a while

[Flavor Leaf]

ydrasse, bus your buddy

[Flavor Leaf]

[Flavor Leaf]

[Flavor Leaf]

i aint picky.

[Flavor Leaf]

i think i am gonna get food. wht does everyone want i will make a food run for this game/

if fire ends up being scum, this definitely is food tell

[Flavor Leaf]

@Pooky - the grilled cheese!!!

[Flavor Leaf]

Why don't we kill the guilty today since tomorrow is Xtoxm?

I'm reading Hectic from it, plus i'm okay letting her stay for a bit longer

[Flavor Leaf]

tomorrow is Unwnd, which Xtoxm hammers

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm also like definitely playing in a way to make Hectic think I really don't have a guilty

[Flavor Leaf]

thinking of hydra'ing again, but haven't really done it much nor have they ever not ended with me getting killed early.

[Flavor Leaf]

I got Sweet and Salty coming with Noraa, though, guess which one I am

[Flavor Leaf]

thinking of hydra'ing again, but haven't really done it much nor have they ever not ended with me getting killed early.

We never got killed in Surprise though but we still lost.

we had that one game with Ras that he cheated to know we were scum, and we still were whoopin on him

Man, Ras wrecked like 4 of my scum games, and 2 of my modded games, idk why I was the one who got effected by that the most.

I vigilanted him, though, and then the post about "we dont need vigilantes trying to catch cheaters out" post came in.

[Flavor Leaf]

thinking of hydra'ing again, but haven't really done it much nor have they ever not ended with me getting killed early.

We never got killed in Surprise though but we still lost.

we had that one game with Ras that he cheated to know we were scum, and we still were whoopin on him

Man, Ras wrecked like 4 of my scum games, and 2 of my modded games, idk why I was the one who got effected by that the most.

I vigilanted him, though, and then the post about "we dont need vigilantes trying to catch cheaters out" post came in.

Still won like 6 large theme scum games that year, but it should have been like 9 larges

[Flavor Leaf]

ugh, i dont have enough energy to keep my ego mode transformation going....back to first...first form...-

[Flavor Leaf]

I think your list has potential to be all town, MT

[Flavor Leaf]

I think your list has potential to be all town, MT

xtoxm/glory/skitts/fire crossed out then

star inno, morning innocent

unwnd/lunar/venus/Chara/ydrasse left over

i mean? There's already got to be one scum in that bottom group yeah. I guess i can be making bad townreads with ease but i didnt think unwnd/venus are scum at all, at least

Catboi, Ydrasse, Chara is a possible team that's not there.

But I guess you're right, if I don't think Ydrasse/Chara are scum, then there probably is scum in there. I guess we'll find out who tomorrow.

Lunar can still be scum here, too

[Flavor Leaf]

I did not consider catboi flipping scum, in my mind it's like 30% odds i guess

that would make it a lot more believable that skitts/glory/xtoxm/fire have potential to be all town -- then it just takes one wrong townread of mine in the bottom group

see, it's rough that you say this because it looks so scummy, but scum doesn't say this kinda stuff, but they kinda do. idk

Lunar/MT both being town is something Hectic would definitely be taking advantage of too, so hmm

I think tomorrow's gonna be a good day

[Flavor Leaf]

hey, it is, any mention of food and cooking, act of getting it, is a branch of it\


not that i think its real anyways

[Flavor Leaf]

both are food tell from my eyes, i dont really agree with that descriptive of it.

i also dont think everything needs to

[Flavor Leaf]

im more likely to do the first one as scum and the second one as town, so i just don't agree with it

[Flavor Leaf]

votes on catboiiii

[Flavor Leaf]

Like sorry, i will not be taking anybody seriously if they're voting Chara/Skitter after we've made our night action plan

like losing credibility with those votes

[Flavor Leaf]

votes on catboiiii

[Flavor Leaf]

[Flavor Leaf]

Firebringer, hammer's all yours

[Flavor Leaf]

Ydrasse, I'm scared of Catboi venging you, dont hammer them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Feeling some scary vibes from this game and I'm not sure where it's coming from

You know where it's coming from...

in this game, I am the one that hides under your bed at night, i am the one who keeps the secrets in the dark

[Flavor Leaf]

or MT, id be okay with MT hammering

[Flavor Leaf]

eh, you can go ahead and hammer then Ydrasse, but have fun if sneaky supersaint

[Flavor Leaf]

we have 23 hours left. finish this wagon. if they aren't here to give final reads already, they're just hoping to cause a last minute panic.

[Flavor Leaf]

just keep at E-1 so we aren't in danger of a no fade.

Catboi, you have a very limited amount of time.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sorry if you're town, Catboi, but I think we're on the verge of breaking this game out, night action plan is solid

[Flavor Leaf]

good ass list

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter, Glory, Lunar is one of my solves as well right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

thoughts on a quick pivot to vote Glory?

[Flavor Leaf]

then try to get a Glory fade because that's the only other option I can see today.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Catboi is town, i imagine only 1 scum is on the wagon right now

[Flavor Leaf]

if that

[Flavor Leaf]

Awesome, let's see how it goes.

Good night, all.

Good night, Ydrasse.

See you lot in a few days.

[Flavor Leaf]

He's not scum but also it doesnt make sense to kill skitts/Chara/Xtoxm/Ydrasse rn and I guess Glory has a claim too? Sad times

I feel like we're just heading down the lazy apathy vote route because people are just hoping for claims to resolve themselves, which is bullshit because I'm sure mafia have a plan to confuse things as much as possible. We're basically just repeating Titus day 2 all over again. I feel like scum are just sitting back and watching me get shoved off a cliff, they're too afraid to touch me because they know they can't justify it and they'll look bad when I flip. It's really annoying to have this much silence as I go over, honestly.

I do not care about roles, i'll tell you that.

I'm actively trying to get Hectic to make some plays.

[Flavor Leaf]

2 down, 2 to go

[Flavor Leaf]

I think catboi is almost certainly flipping town. Someone should have unvoted. I’m seriously pissed at that hammer.

Nah, it's fine, misfades are fine

[Flavor Leaf]

i tried to get Glory faded earlier, but everyone was like noooooooo

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, Skitter is like obv scum

[Flavor Leaf]

Fuck yeah, so down with a FB death. not gonna lie.

that was one of my last possibilities as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

You already know who the daily flowers are for

Spoiler:

[Flavor Leaf]

2 down, 2 to go

you guys trust my reads yet

[Flavor Leaf]

So right now, I'm thinking it's Skitter and Glory as the final scum still.

Glory bus hammer makes a lot of sense to me.

So order of claiming:

Ydrasse/Skitter claims when they get here.

Then Glory claims when they are finished.

Glory, do not indicate any type of result if you are town.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Xtoxm - After Skitter claims, can you give the exact message you sent to all 3 players?

[Flavor Leaf]

gotta make it exciting so that the inevitable scum win is all the more exciting

better hope your last scum pick is one who's going all the way, you're about to have 2 scum flips in a row.

[Flavor Leaf]

and Skitter is my guilty.

Chara is a Scum JOAT.

Game over

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm a 1-shot Loyal Neighborizer

[Flavor Leaf]

you wanna confirm your result, Ydrasse? I feel like you have, i just think it needs to be said

[Flavor Leaf]

still happy the Vanilla trap ended up working

[Flavor Leaf]

i soul vibed with Firebringer at times like i usually do, and him fighting with me was super townie of them, but i thought there was a chance they were scum still, despite me town reading them, but yeah, the pupper was a kill alright. i guess sit and wait, see what shenanigans come up.

Scum had access to a Sticky Fruit, so if you're town with a Sticky Fruit, you should claim it

[Flavor Leaf]

probably gonna hold off on an Unwnd fade today since we hit scum yesterday, but it's now an option, i guess

[Flavor Leaf]

I wouldn't have Ydrasse that high up necessarily.

I wanna see what Shenanigans happen

[Flavor Leaf]

you wanna confirm your result, Ydrasse? I feel like you have, i just think it needs to be said

[Flavor Leaf]

awesome, my guilty is on Ydrasse from Night 1.

I can only target people adjacent to me with my Loyal Neighborizer

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah, let's wait for Skitter to claim what the message said, then have Glory claim, then have Xtoxm announce the message stuff from the 3 days

[Flavor Leaf]

to be fair, it's a soft guilty, because of Sticky Fruit coming into the game means that 2 Sticky Fruit are in this game. The fact that they weren't claimed means scum likely used them on themselves which actually makes the Ascetic claims that less believable and almost confirms scum within the Ascetic, which might incriminate MT...not sure yet.

Lunar Martian is a Rolestopper, which can go hand in hand with Sticky Fruit, and could very well be a fake claim as well, but im less sure on that.

[Flavor Leaf]

So Chara officially can't be scum unless Ydrasse is scum with them.

Starcrossed can't be scum unless Xtoxm is scum with them.

[Flavor Leaf]

if youre lying im going to beat you into a pulp

Nah you wouldnt

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm gonna sit here waiting for Skitter to claim they received a Sticky Fruit

[Flavor Leaf]

full Sticky Fruit Vendor what a strong power for scum, nice.

Hectic definitely had to make choices, and I guarantee you they were incredibly safe choices.

[Flavor Leaf]

you know what, Chkflip probably was given a StickyFruit now that I think about it.

So we might be dealing with only 1 sticky fruit remaining, but maybe they used that as a strongman shot. They could have gone that route, but passing it back and forth between them would have been a better option, i imagine

[Flavor Leaf]

So Skitter could have been Inverted.

[Flavor Leaf]

that's what I'm thinking happened here.

[Flavor Leaf]

So Skitter/Ydrasse?

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: chara

Pedit wut

chara can only be scum if Ydrasse is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

what's an invert do

makes it so people who are commuted can be targeted and makes it so roles like Loyal/Disloyal/Simple/Complex will always work, regardless if they normally cant

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter, Chara is confirmed town, so idk what that vote was supposed to do

[Flavor Leaf]

Alright, Glory can claim their track now

[Flavor Leaf]

So Chara officially can't be scum unless Ydrasse is scum with them.

Starcrossed can't be scum unless Xtoxm is scum with them.

Ok i read again and i dont get it

Ydrasse literally has a cop inno

[Flavor Leaf]

Hectic I really don't think we can win this. I think its time to concede. Even with me being in a good spot based on the claim I don't think it's strong enough to get me through elo.

Yeah honestly, screw this noise, town’d in a fantastic spot.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh they were doing the scum thing again.

Yeah, honestly, I’m probably willing to policy fade Lunar sometime this game anyways

[Flavor Leaf]

My apathy levels have been through the roof for like the past week.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor you have leashed me since night 2 I honestly don't know how you haven't mechanically cleared me by now.

i did nothing with your action on Night 2.

I actually dont know your actions besides last night, now that i think about it

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean if u think xtoxm's claim is real he just used a loyal action on me so

this is nullified by the potential of an Inverted role on the mafia team

[Flavor Leaf]

or something similar in the form of going through Ascetics

[Flavor Leaf]

Starcrossed isn't confirmed town from my eyes right now, personally

[Flavor Leaf]

Ydrasse
Glory and Mel
Venus Mars and Pluto
Morning Tweet
Xtoxm
Starcrossed
Lunar Martian
skitter30
unwnd
Chara

with Hopkirk as my mason.

9-2 guys.

this is really something. Everyone's back on the table, I'm starting from scratch after claims finish.

Claim charts, VCA, and Action Chains coming sometime

[Flavor Leaf]

the thing that gives me pause with the possible Inverted is that scum have no hints setup wise to be able to see that one coming, so if we lost to an invert, that's kind of a bad beat, i guess

[Flavor Leaf]

y'know what? enough's enough. we're sitting in the PT talking and i've been telling FL he's going too far this time but he just keeps laughing and telling me how funny he finds it watching people suffer. he's a monster. i'm afraid of him. he loves gaslighting people and he's abusive to his masons. you wouldn't believe what it's like now RCE died. it's horrible. he tried to convince me i wasn't a mason inside the masonary. if the thread wasn't titled 'Flavor's fabulous and 100% legit genuine free range masonry' i might be doubting it myself. but y'know what? enough is enough. i know who am i and i'm taking a stand. i'm taking a stand against flavor leaf here and now.

they told us Hectic is the villain here, but has he been acting like it? he's been coming in from time to time posting a few memes. it's been good natured. he's been funny. he hasn't been abusive to us. he hasn't spent twenty pages in a masonry yelling at anyone about how stupid we are for voting for titus or 'being so scummy he had no choice but to out you hopdork'. he's been calling me 'hopdork' and nothing else recent. it'd have hurt my feelings if he hadn't already decimated my self-esteem twelve minutes into day one. i don't know about you, but i signed up to play a fun game, not for years of therapy. enough's enough. the mod might have told us that hectic is the bad guy here but it sure as hell doesn't feel like it. i'm thinking this is where we take our stand. we look Flavor Leaf directly in the eyes and we tell him 'go to hell you son of a mason'. that's something my grandfather used to tell people before he killed them. bad people. people who deserved it. people like flavor leaf.

you might be afraid of flavor leaf. i know i am, but together we don't have to be. it's not like they can modkill all of us. one or two of us sure, but there's something like ELEVEN of us around right now. we've got power if we work together. we can end this abusive tyrannical monstrosity right here and now. we can draw a line in the sand and tell flavor leaf that enough is enough, he can't just keep making his masons repeatedly draw lines in sand for him for no apparent reason. i don't even like sand. it reminds me of star wars which makes me think about the lack of resolution we got about the trade negotiations and that makes me ANGRY. you know what else makes me angry? when flavor leaf tortures a poor townie like Lunar with his sick, depraved, manipulative solving.

I'm a mason Lunar. I don't care how much FL is chuckling to himself about how hilarious this is that you might not be sure about that. I think that YOU deserve to know the truth.

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

i'm with you hectic and i sure as hell hope the rest of the town is brave enough to stand beside us

i would still consider myself the victor if I solved the game

[Flavor Leaf]

bruh, the Star Wars Prequels are beautifully written first drafts, dont shade them that way, just shade George Lucas' directing skills.

Prequels on paper are amazing

[Flavor Leaf]

bruh i could fix the first 2 prequels so hard while keeping it like exactly the same...

[Flavor Leaf]

eventually ill do a podcast about that

[Flavor Leaf]

they told us Hectic is the villain here

oh...if people thought Hectic was the villain here, then they were misinformed. I was always the villain in this situation.

[Flavor Leaf]

ive also like....pushed 2 scum that people really didnt wanna push, and spent like multiple day phases sitting here talking with everyone to see where they're all standing.

Like honestly, this is the Flavor Leaf you want...there's no difference this game than any other of my town games, except scum can't directly try to push me, but I see no difference in this game except you know I won't be a misfade.

If anything this is one of the tamest games I've ever played

[Flavor Leaf]

again, it was a good first draft.

I definitely think they needed to do at least 3 more revised drafts afterwards, but pretty sure George Lucas just got bigheaded at the time thinking he just had it

[Flavor Leaf]

and like, over time, some of the stuff in those movies are hilarious, and i almost enjoy the silly parts just as much as the epic parts

[Flavor Leaf]

bruh i love the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy

[Flavor Leaf]

aw man

ill eventually do a podcast on that too.

i can go on for hours and hours on either of those trilogies

[Flavor Leaf]

bruh i love the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy

[Flavor Leaf]

imagine telling Lucas he needed to do more work on it after the first trilogy did so well.
i feel like most people i know actually prefer to prequels to the originals nowadays tbh though
Spider-man 2 was really good, 1 was pretty nice too. never given 3 a second shot though

okay, look, the originals are great, the cliche Empire Strikes Back, magic. And I do think Lucas is a good idea guy, but he didn't direct Emp Strikes Back.

I also feel it was like a capturing magic in a bottle for the original trilogy with strong casting, and they told the typical Hero's Journey which hits.

I think the prequels he was a much better storyteller than he was years back, but he just almost got lazy with parts of it, and only did one draft. And he doesn't know how to direct actors.


I think all 3 are like great, and essentially 1 in the same. They all have essentially the same tone and reality within their world, and Sam Raimi's the guy who did Evil Dead, so of course there's gonna be campy stuff.

But pacing of all 3 movies are actually fire, even the 3rd one, 3rd one is just long, and they did shoe horn in Venom, which like, okay, I get it, but even then the only real issue I have with that is I think Venom should straight up not have been in the final fight, and he was setup perfectly for a 4th movie. Church bell scene, end of Venom for that movie. Sandman was a great villain. I think all the other end stuff should have been there except Venom in the final fight, and it would have been great

[Flavor Leaf]

Our track targets were garbage so the best option we had for tracking that wouldn’t fail was checking MT ascetic which she is in fact ascetic.
Ike I have no reason to track Hopkirk or star crossed or unwnd and tracking skitter again is just pointless so...

could be Sticky Fruit'd

[Flavor Leaf]

Our track targets were garbage so the best option we had for tracking that wouldn’t fail was checking MT ascetic which she is in fact ascetic.
Ike I have no reason to track Hopkirk or star crossed or unwnd and tracking skitter again is just pointless so...

could be Sticky Fruit'd

They had to be stickies fruit n1 or before fires action then

what was fire's action?

[Flavor Leaf]

Xtoxm/MT could be a possible solve yeah

[Flavor Leaf]

if xtoxm is the fade, though, probably do that through Unwnd

[Flavor Leaf]

Ydrasse/Venus?

[Flavor Leaf]

that might be it.

Ydrasse and Venus

[Flavor Leaf]

Venus hydra defended Dannfloor and Catboi, but was on Titus

[Flavor Leaf]

1.4

Chara

(3) ~

RCEnigma

(43),

Firebringer

(33), skitter30(54)
Gamma Emerald(2) ~

Dannflor

(14), Morning Tweet(17)

Firebringer

(2) ~

Starcrossed

(95), unwnd(60)
Morning Tweet(1) ~

Chara

(80)

Dannflor

(1) ~

catboi

(41)


Not Voting (9):

chkflip

(0), Lunar Martian(4),

Hopkirk

(1), Xtoxm(0),

Titus

(4),

Ydrasse

(62), Venus Mars and Pluto(2), Gamma Emerald(5),

Flavor Leaf

(15)

1.5

Gamma Emerald(2) ~

Dannflor

(14), Morning Tweet(32)

Chara

(2) ~

RCEnigma

(43),

Firebringer

(34)
Venus Mars and Pluto(1) ~

catboi

(51)

Starcrossed

(1) ~ skitter30(89)

RCEnigma

(1) ~ unwnd(77)
Morning Tweet(1) ~

Chara

(103)

Firebringer

(1) ~

Starcrossed

(106)


Not Voting (9):

chkflip

(0), Lunar Martian(8),

Hopkirk

(1), Xtoxm(0),

Titus

(4),

Ydrasse

(76), Venus Mars and Pluto(4), Gamma Emerald(6),

Flavor Leaf

(57)

1.6

Venus Mars and Pluto(4) ~

catboi

(64), unwnd(96), skitter30(117),

chkflip

(13)

Chara

(3) ~

RCEnigma

(49),

Firebringer

(35),

Hopkirk

(54)
unwnd(2) ~

Titus

(32),

Chara

(149)
Gamma Emerald(2) ~

Dannflor

(14), Morning Tweet(50)
Lunar Martian(1) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(55)

Firebringer

(1) ~

Starcrossed

(181)


Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(8), Xtoxm(0),

Ydrasse

(124), Gamma Emerald(23),

Flavor Leaf

(135)

1.7

Chara(4) ~

RCEnigma

(55), Firebringer(35),

Hopkirk

(55), skitter30(146)
Venus Mars and Pluto(2) ~ unwnd(110),

chkflip

(23)
unwnd(2) ~

Titus

(32),

Chara

(159)
Gamma Emerald(2) ~

Dannflor

(14), Morning Tweet(50)

Firebringer

(1) ~

Starcrossed

(207)

Dannflor

(1) ~

catboi

(74)

chkflip

(1) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(103)


Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(8), Xtoxm(0),

Ydrasse

(125), Gamma Emerald(23),

Flavor Leaf

(136)

1.8

Chara

(3) ~

Firebringer

(38),

Hopkirk

(55), skitter30(151)
unwnd(2) ~

Titus

(32),

Chara

(159)

RCEnigma

(2) ~ Xtoxm(9), unwnd(119)

Dannflor

(2) ~

catboi

(78), Morning Tweet(57)

chkflip

(2) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(108),

RCEnigma

(57)
Venus Mars and Pluto(1) ~

chkflip

(23)
Gamma Emerald(1) ~

Dannflor

(14)

Firebringer

(1) ~

Starcrossed

(210)


Not Voting (4): Lunar Martian(17),

Ydrasse

(130), Gamma Emerald(28),

Flavor Leaf

(148)

1.9

Dannflor

(5) ~

catboi

(81), Morning Tweet(58), skitter30(160),

Starcrossed

(246), Xtoxm(16)
unwnd(2) ~

Titus

(32),

Chara

(159)

chkflip(2)

~

RCEnigma

(57),

Dannflor

(29)

Chara

(2) ~

Firebringer

(38),

Hopkirk

(55)
Venus Mars and Pluto(1) ~

chkflip

(25)

RCEnigma

(1) ~ unwnd(122)


Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(20),

Ydrasse

(137), Venus Mars and Pluto(130), Gamma Emerald(28),

Flavor Leaf

(159)

1.10

Dannflor

(4) ~

catboi

(100), Morning Tweet(58),

Starcrossed

(317), Xtoxm(17)

Chara

(3) ~

Firebringer

(42),

Hopkirk

(83), skitter30(208)
unwnd(2) ~

Chara

(182),

chkflip

(37)
Xtoxm(1) ~

Titus

(46)

RCEnigma

(1) ~ unwnd(153)
Morning Tweet(1) ~

Dannflor

(58)

chkflip(1) ~ RCEnigma

(65


Not Voting (5): Lunar Martian(20),

Ydrasse

(160), Venus Mars and Pluto(176), Gamma Emerald(31),

Flavor Leaf

(220)

1.11

Dannflor

(5) ~

catboi

(101), Morning Tweet(65),

Starcrossed

(317), Xtoxm(18), Gamma Emerald(36)

Chara

(3) ~

Firebringer

(43),

Hopkirk

(83), skitter30(225)
unwnd(2) ~

Chara

(182),

chkflip

(37)
Xtoxm(1) ~

Titus

(49)

RCEnigma

(1) ~ unwnd(153)
Morning Tweet(1) ~

Dannflor

(58)

chkflip(1) ~ RCEnigma(65)

Not Voting (4): Lunar Martian(24),

Ydrasse(161)

, Venus Mars and Pluto(204),

Flavor Leaf(223)

1.12

Dannflor

(7) ~

catboi

(108), Morning Tweet(98),

Starcrossed

(330), Xtoxm(18), Gamma Emerald(36),

Flavor Leaf

(254), unwnd(161),

Hopkirk

(89)
Morning Tweet(3) ~

Dannflor

(58), Venus Mars and Pluto(246),

Chara

(195)

Chara

(2) ~

Firebringer

(44), skitter30(229)
Xtoxm(1) ~

Titus

(57)
unwnd(1) ~

chkflip

(38)

chkflip(1) ~ RCEnigma(65)

Not Voting (2): Lunar Martian(24),

Ydrasse

(172)

1 end

Dannflor

(9) ~

catboi

(111), Morning Tweet(107),

Starcrossed

(351), Xtoxm(19), Gamma Emerald(41),

Flavor Leaf

(274), unwnd(164),

Hopkirk

(89), skitter30(243),

Titus

(60) -- HAMMER
unwnd(2) ~

chkflip

(54), Venus Mars and Pluto(283)
Morning Tweet(2) ~

Dannflor

(58), Chara(197)

chkflip(1) ~ RCEnigma

(72)

Chara

(1) ~

Firebringer

(44)


Not Voting (2): Lunar Martian(25),

Ydrasse

(188)

2.6

Xtoxm(7) ~

RCEnigma

(8),

Titus

(13), Morning Tweet(9), Lunar Martian(29),

Starcrossed

(88), skitter30(53), Gamma Emerald(13)

Ydrasse

(1) ~ unwnd(52)
unwnd(1) ~

Firebringer

(36)
Titus(1) ~ Hopkirk(9)
skitter30(1) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(159)
Morning Tweet(1) ~

catboi

(19)
Gamma Emerald(0) ~

Flavor Leaf

(120)

2.8

Xtoxm(3) ~

RCEnigma(11), Titus(16),

skitter30(144)

Titus(3) ~ Hopkirk(35)

, unwnd(65),

Flavor Leaf(244)

, Lunar Martian(42)
skitter30(2) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(241), Xtoxm(10)
Morning Tweet(2) ~

catboi

(26), Gamma Emerald(29)
unwnd(1) ~

Firebringer

(58)

Chara

(1) ~ Morning Tweet(38)


Not Voting (3):

Chara

(103),

Starcrossed

(161),

Ydrasse(80)

Day 2 END

Titus(8) ~ Hopkirk(35)

, unwnd(68),

Flavor Leaf(271)

, Lunar Martian(46), skitter30(156),

Starcrossed

(179),

catboi

(31), Morning Tweet(44),

Ydrasse(96)

-- HAMMER
Xtoxm(1) ~

RCEnigma

(11)
unwnd(1) ~

Firebringer

(67)
skitter30(1) ~ Xtoxm(10)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ Gamma Emerald(30)


Not Voting (2):

Chara

(107), Venus Mars and Pluto(271)

Xtoxm(3) ~

RCEnigma(11), Titus(16),

skitter30(144)

Titus(3) ~ Hopkirk(35)

, unwnd(65),

Flavor Leaf(244)

, Lunar Martian(42)
skitter30(2) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(241), Xtoxm(10)

this is where we'll find scum most likely.

Right now, I'm thinking Xtoxm/Lunar is getting more likely.

[Flavor Leaf]

its always Ydra right FL?

im trying to cover all the bases, but i *believe* so


i still dont want votes there yet, though.


I colored Starcrossed and Chara green for now, because if there isn't an Invert somewhere, I don't think it's possible for Starcrossed to be scum, however, if there is an invert he likely is.

[Flavor Leaf]

VCA right now, Skitter looks really bad

[Flavor Leaf]

i just meant im not ready to fade her yet, so just keep votes off her for now, dont want a pile on out of nowhere

[Flavor Leaf]

Xtoxm(7) ~ RCEnigma(8), Titus(13), Morning Tweet(9), Lunar Martian(29), Starcrossed(88), skitter30(53), Gamma Emerald(13)

theres always a scum on this wagon, i think. at least one.

[Flavor Leaf]

Both Skitter and Venus hydra have had really poor reads if they were town, so i do think that is officially a TvS.

[Flavor Leaf]

Dannflor(5) ~ catboi(81), Morning Tweet(58), skitter30(160), Starcrossed(246), Xtoxm(16)

lol is this dude getting bussed by the entire scum team

catboi tweetie xtoxm

flavor leaf really is the best town player of all time

btw i had the entire scum team in this post so the game is over

thanks for playing

You’re a better town stump when you’re not actually a town stump.

Let’s all revolt and dethrone FL and make Pooky our righteous

messiah

[trike]Teddy Bear[/strike] leader. Mutiny! Mutiny!

I disagree. I feel I was the main person pushing both Dannfloor and Catboi, when you were specifically town reading those slots as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

I colored Starcrossed and Chara green for now, because if there isn't an Invert somewhere, I don't think it's possible for Starcrossed to be scum, however, if there is an invert he likely is.

am i supposed to be an inverted magical neighborizer in this fantasy scenario buddy :>

besides the scum neighboriza got faded day 1.

no, it specifically isn't you if that's what's there

[Flavor Leaf]

its also pointless to dwell on if its skitter or not xtoxm should come in and confirm/deny it soon anyways

there's a possibility that there's a role that can get around Loyal/Disloyal.

And I think we might be living in that scenario.

I think Ydrasse might have that role.

[Flavor Leaf]

i just cant think of a reason why Hectic would allow 2 innocents to happen in 1 day like that, unless it was so I would specifically think this, but I was already not putting stock into roles

[Flavor Leaf]

like xtox g+M ydra can't all be town right

how we have a cop, cop/tracker, and a loyal messenger in the same game?

probly xtox is a scum mailman no?

nah, i would probably lean Ydrasse right now.

hmm.

[Flavor Leaf]

i said it was a soft guilty

[Flavor Leaf]

to me? yes, she absolutely does

[Flavor Leaf]

the only thing that's keeping me back a bit is i think scum her would be MORE upset right now

[Flavor Leaf]

why'd you think you were in Pink on the vote counts?

[Flavor Leaf]

3.2

Xtoxm(1) ~ skitter30(15)

Firebringer

(1) ~ unwnd(7),

Flavor Lea

f(24)


Not Voting (12): Chara(11), catboi(0), Firebringer(18), Lunar Martian(0), Hopkirk(0), Starcrossed(0), Xtoxm(0), Morning Tweet(0), Ydrasse(1), Venus Mars and Pluto(4), Gamma Emerald(0), Hectic(0)

3.6

Chara

(3) ~

Hopkirk

(16), Glory and Mel(111), Venus Mars and Pluto(142)
Xtoxm(2) ~ skitter30(100), Lunar Martian(10)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ unwnd(56)
skitter30(0) ~ Flavor Leaf(200)


Not Voting (2): Chara(58), Starcrossed(17) *there's players missing on this one*

3.7

Morning Tweet(3) ~ unwnd(58), Lunar Martian(26), skitter30(127)
skitter30(2) ~

Hopkirk

(17), Glory and Mel(112)
Xtoxm(1) ~

Firebringer

(106)
Glory and Mel(1) ~

Flavor Leaf

(304), Venus Mars and Pluto(157)


Not Voting (6):

Chara

(58),

catboi

(17),

Starcrossed

(17), Xtoxm(7), Morning Tweet(34),

Ydrasse

(44)

3.8

Glory and Mel(2) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(157),

Firebringer

(134)
unwnd(1) ~ Lunar Martian(48)
skitter30(1) ~

Hopkirk

(17)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ unwnd(95)

Chara

(1) ~ skitter30(160)
Lunar Martian(0) ~

Flavor Leaf

(329)


Not Voting (7):

Chara

(95),

catboi

(26),

Starcrossed

(19), Xtoxm(7), Morning Tweet(34),

Ydrasse

(63), Glory and Mel(149)

3.9

unwnd(2) ~ Lunar Martian(53), Glory and Mel(153)
Glory and Mel(2) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(157),

Firebringer

(136)
skitter30(1) ~

Hopkirk

(17)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ unwnd(127)

Chara

(1) ~ skitter30(165)
Lunar Martian(0) ~

Flavor Leaf

(340)


Not Voting (6):

Chara

(116),

catboi

(32),

Starcrossed

(19), Xtoxm(7), Morning Tweet(34),

Ydrasse

(79)

3.10

unwnd(2) ~ Lunar Martian(54), Glory and Mel(223)
skitter30(2) ~

Hopkirk

(17), Venus Mars and Pluto(241)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ unwnd(130)
Glory and Mel(1) ~

Firebringer

(138)

Chara

(1) ~ skitter30(194)
Lunar Martian(0) ~

Flavor Leaf

(374)


Not Voting (6):

Chara

(125),

catboi

(37),

Starcrossed

(19), Xtoxm(13), Morning Tweet(34),

Ydrasse

(79)

3.11

Morning Tweet(5) ~ unwnd(136),

Starcrossed

(21),

Flavor Leaf

(396), Venus Mars and Pluto(263), Glory and Mel(229), skitter30(204)
unwnd(1) ~ Lunar Martian(68)
skitter30(1) ~

Hopkirk

(17)
Glory and Mel(1) ~

Firebringer

(144)


Not Voting (5):

Chara

(125),

catboi

(37), Xtoxm(13), Morning Tweet(45),

Ydrasse

(80)

3.12

Glory and Mel(3) ~

Firebringer

(161), Morning Tweet(80), unwnd(140)
unwnd(1) ~ Lunar Martian(68)
skitter30(1) ~

Hopkirk

(17)
Morning Tweet(1) ~ Venus Mars and Pluto(296)
Chara(1) ~ skitter30(210)

catboi

(1) ~

Flavor Leaf(421), Starcrossed

(30)


Not Voting (5):

Chara

(131),

catboi

(47), Xtoxm(13),

Ydrasse

(85), Glory and Mel(255)

3.13

catboi(4) ~

Starcrossed

(30), unwnd(155),

Flavor Leaf

(460), Lunar Martian(73),

Chara

(144)
Glory and Mel(2) ~

Firebringer

(166), Morning Tweet(80)
skitter30(1) ~

Hopkirk

(17)

Chara

(1) ~ skitter30(210)


Not Voting (5):

catboi

(58), Xtoxm(13),

Ydrasse

(101), Venus Mars and Pluto(314), Glory and Mel(255)

3.14

catboi

(6) ~

Starcrossed

(32), unwnd(157),

Flavor Leaf

(484), Lunar Martian(76),

Chara

(146), Xtoxm(14), Morning Tweet(89)
skitter30(1) ~ Hopkirk(23)
Glory and Mel(1) ~

Firebringer

(176)

Chara

(1) ~ skitter30(220)


Not Voting (4):

catboi

(61),

Ydrasse

(103), Venus Mars and Pluto(326), Glory and Mel(259)

3.15

catboi

(7) ~

Starcrossed

(34), unwnd(157), Flavor Leaf(501), Lunar Martian(76),

Chara

(146), Xtoxm(14), Morning Tweet(94), Glory and Mel(263) -- HAMMER
skitter30(1) ~

Hopkirk

(24)
Glory and Mel(1) ~

Firebringer

(176)

Chara

(1) ~ skitter30(221)


Not Voting (3):

Ydrasse

(106), Venus Mars and Pluto(331),

catboi

(0)

[Flavor Leaf]

nah, i think scum have an inverted modifier, so i think theyre still scum

[Flavor Leaf]

theres no reason for ydrasse/xtoxm to live if there isnt scum within them, xtoxm, or chara, and xtoxm has no reason to go along with this as scum

[Flavor Leaf]

i just trust my own reads, as i should considering this game ive been doing really well, over a seemingly inno.

[Flavor Leaf]

That's why I don't trust the Ydrasse thing either.

I came into this day thinking scum was Skitter/Glory.

VCA backed that up as well.

I'm not sure it's correct, but I do think 1 scum is in there at least.

Lunar Martian is my backup

[Flavor Leaf]

i don't care, i want Hectic to take action

[Flavor Leaf]

why are you assuming scum theatre not a thing? Catboi was bussing the entirety of the game for the most part

[Flavor Leaf]

Non zero chance Glory is the Inverted role

[Flavor Leaf]

everyone's calling me delusional today damn

[Flavor Leaf]

not even mafia related too

[Flavor Leaf]

I bet you also think that Renekton and Gnar are good champions as well oh my god

i dont top lane

[Flavor Leaf]

Taliyah bot

[Flavor Leaf]

twisted fate, ezreal, anivia more my style

[Flavor Leaf]

xayah

[Flavor Leaf]

somebody in this game groaned at me for picking Anivia

[Flavor Leaf]

like if they're town, i really dont care about Lunar's play this game, and it really brings them down as a player for me. if scum it's fine

[Flavor Leaf]

rolestopper

[Flavor Leaf]

starcrossed
hopkirk
hopkirk

i wanted Ydrasse targeted n3, after going back and forth, but it didn't get to them in time

[Flavor Leaf]

Honestly, idc if you're town Lunar, i'll still policy because I don't like the way you've been playing this game, alongside not seeing you as having townie actions

[Flavor Leaf]

dont care

ive actively listened to everyone's ideas all game.

ive actively taken into consideration everyone's reads, and spent the majority of the day's going to the full end, and I have lead 2 scum wagons on people that others were saying weren't scum, so that's just a poor take by you

[Flavor Leaf]

The Rolestopper probably isn't town.

yeah, it looks like a perfect StickyFruit Vendor security claim.

And frankly, we dont even need the rolestopper if town at this point, im fine going Lunar today

[Flavor Leaf]

frankly, i woudnt want kills to be stopped anyways

[Flavor Leaf]

FL is there any evidence that suggests that Hectic knew you were targetting Ydra with anything in any PT?

yes, he knows i wanted to protect her probably.

[Flavor Leaf]

this whole game is me and hectic playing mind games with each other tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

ah yes the 600 IQ wine play
ofc
no one has ever done the 600 IQ wine play and gotten away with it

i have

[Flavor Leaf]

Ydrasse guess what

[Flavor Leaf]

i am not awake enoguh to deal with the fact that mr. leaf fucking lied to me if he did im going to be snarlign. rabid. going to bite him inflict poison damage he will tick out and his respawn timer is at 492394 seconds

well, i didnt lie, but i still think you're town

[Flavor Leaf]

i wont lose to Ydrasse scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

it would be the last gift i would ever get her because there's no topping that

[Flavor Leaf]

i always miss kanna, even when im talking to her

[Flavor Leaf]

she could be right here, saying FL all your reads are great! and id still miss kanna

[Flavor Leaf]

so i guess we'll just do what we did yesterday, and talk amongst ourselves for a week, then see where that takes us

[Flavor Leaf]

the invert in play would be for scumSkitter, not ScumYdrasse

[Flavor Leaf]

@Chara - when did ydrasse confirm her poem from you? it was after you brought it up, wasn't it?

[Flavor Leaf]

i remember, it was the 3 of us posting at the time.

Yeah, I think Ydrasse received the Sticky Fruit Night 1.

I also think she was way too familiar with the idea of the Sticky Fruit than she should have been if town

[Flavor Leaf]

they were very careful not to answer when I asked them if they were Ascetic on Day 2 too

[Flavor Leaf]

and they claimed Vanilla first, then backtracked to saying not vanilla

[Flavor Leaf]

nah, longer we sit the longer and more stuff scum gotta do, plus i dont mind waiting for everyone to come in. the Flavor Jacuzzi chats are nice

[Flavor Leaf]

i dont really think it's going to be that easy to fade someone today, tbh

[Flavor Leaf]

was that a scumfession

[Flavor Leaf]

i'm probably okay fading Ydrasse today

[Flavor Leaf]

there was also the not hammering of Dannfloor, however, Titus hammered, but Ydrasse showed up right after "upset".

not on the Catboii one either.

[Flavor Leaf]

vanilla claim, then back track to saying you're lying. late on the poem.

Nothing happening to stop Xtoxm/Ydrasse actions

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah yeah, ive heard your hollow threats already

[Flavor Leaf]

THEYRE REAL NOW

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah, you really hate it, dont you

that's like top 2 most condescending things i do, probably

[Flavor Leaf]

i'm trembling in my chelsea boots

[Flavor Leaf]

kinda creepy

[Flavor Leaf]

isn't it your bed time yet, kid

[Flavor Leaf]

i am no KID

this you

[Flavor Leaf]

and i’ll have you know i’mfinally in bed

good, an answer for something i didnt ask

[Flavor Leaf]

how would you like me to act for you, my queen

[Flavor Leaf]

should i shine that crown for you

[Flavor Leaf]

also i am not queen material.. :c

I am.

[Flavor Leaf]

embrace urself ur inner self

i dont know what part of you think i haven't embraced any part of my self, inner, outer, or other

[Flavor Leaf]

and with that, i am bored with this

[Flavor Leaf]

embrace urself ur inner self

i dont know what part of you think i haven't embraced any part of my self, inner, outer, or other

i’m jealous of ur ability to do so..

and with that, i am bored with this

[Flavor Leaf]

That's why I don't trust the Ydrasse thing either.

I came into this day thinking scum was Skitter/Glory.

VCA backed that up as well.

I'm not sure it's correct, but I do think 1 scum is in there at least.

Lunar Martian is my backup

but didn’t you say he was a rolestopper? Doesn’t that make sense with Pooky’s role?

i dont see it

[Flavor Leaf]

nah, i dont care about that one bit

[Flavor Leaf]

so scum made a play

and im about to expose it

[Flavor Leaf]

This is Chkflip's role PM.

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

Welcome to Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic!



You are a

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

.

Miller: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia. Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante: On even-numbered nights, you may target a player that is not adjacent to you in the player list with a killing action.

Novice: You do not act on night 1.

Odd-Night Complex Vigilante: On odd nights, you may target a player with a killing action. This action will fail on vanilla roles (vanilla town, mafia goon).

Walkies: You can move up or down the player list by one slot at night. This will resolve based on your position in the player order at the start of the night phase.

Win:

You win when the mafia is dead or Hectic concedes by saying "Boon just might be the greatest town player of all time" in bold.

Game thread here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656

Confirm:

Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name

[Flavor Leaf]

so if Skitter is a miller, the loyal shouldn't have gone through.

I believe Skitter is an inverse of this type of thing now, and that she gets hit from loyal as scum

[Flavor Leaf]

MT can you confirm or deny that being part of your role as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

yep
skitter town
shockingly
my work here is done

During the night, chkflip was killed! He was...

Spoiler:

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

Welcome to Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic!



You are a

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

.

Miller: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia. Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante: On even-numbered nights, you may target a player that is not adjacent to you in the player list with a killing action.

Novice: You do not act on night 1.

Odd-Night Complex Vigilante: On odd nights, you may target a player with a killing action. This action will fail on vanilla roles (vanilla town, mafia goon).

Walkies: You can move up or down the player list by one slot at night. This will resolve based on your position in the player order at the start of the night phase.

Win:

You win when the mafia is dead or Hectic concedes by saying "Boon just might be the greatest town player of all time" in bold.

Game thread here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656

Confirm:

Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name

Miller

: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia.

Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Can you explain how you got a loyal result on Skitter when you would have gotten a disloyal on chk?

in what world is this for xtoxm to explain?

[Flavor Leaf]

this is a Skitter explanation with some MT in there as well.

[Flavor Leaf]

xtoxm doesnt even get results

[Flavor Leaf]

what does that have to with anything?

[Flavor Leaf]

im already familiar with that

[Flavor Leaf]

what if a scum miller gets seen as town, essentially a godfather

[Flavor Leaf]

which synergizes with Drassy

[Flavor Leaf]

i think skitter's just scum.

VCA wrecks her too

[Flavor Leaf]

so why is that xtoxm's problem not skitter's

[Flavor Leaf]

you actively have questioned Xtoxm, this has nothing to do with xtoxm answering, just skitter

[Flavor Leaf]

and Krazy's 100% going to put Red Herrings in there, he just is

[Flavor Leaf]

and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills

[Flavor Leaf]

and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills

How does a vig block kills?

rolestopper....

[Flavor Leaf]

that actually does check out a bit considering i have the same roles in games, but that are slightly different mutations of them

[Flavor Leaf]

that's also a possibility im considering.

we arent in a rush by any means.

[Flavor Leaf]

just take our time, talk it through

[Flavor Leaf]

there's only one loyal/disloyal claim, and Chkflip's flip kinda implies that Xtoxm is likely town, and Xtoxm doesn't get results, for the last time....

[Flavor Leaf]

eh, scum could have a disloyal role, I guess, but that's tinfoil