Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Xtoxm]

thats cute guys

this is a fantastic opportunity tho

VOTE: rcenigma

[Xtoxm]

why would you need to wait for me, or anyone, mt? that stuff is best claimed in fp
you remind me i should check my role tho i feel like i might have been something.

[Xtoxm]

yeah im ascetic, but im not a miller

[Xtoxm]

thats cute guys

this is a fantastic opportunity tho

VOTE: rcenigma

VOTE: Rcenigma

I believe you

tnx <3

[Xtoxm]

I wanted to see if somebody claimed exact ascetic miller before me

i claimed miller immediately though, i revealed ascetic later

So it's

Skitts - Conditional Miller
chkflip - Miller
Morning - Ascetic Miller
Xtoxm - Ascetic

lol

interesting
similar thing hapent in anime upick kingsize
all the claims were town

[Xtoxm]

shot your load too early, should have wait til p100

[Xtoxm]

hi skitter!

[Xtoxm]

hi skitter!

r u scum again?

im always scum, even when im town

[Xtoxm]

@boon
lead lims on the two of us then.
50/50 is excellent odds.
no reason to look elsewhere today.

[Xtoxm]

I was scum with him in the normal of last year's team mafia and it was similarly spammy (although tbf significantly more toxic) and he was easiest the lowedt poster and he would make occasional popins that looked exactly like that

Iirc i might have a towngame with

Ahhhhh didnt finish the thought:

I might have a towngame with him too but i dont remember it. So maybe he posts like that as town too. But i've def seen him play in a similar fashion as scum

already feel like my posting is quite diff to our team game tbh. go re check my iso?
i barely posting anything relevant at all until d3

we have 2 town games
corporate boontrigue - i played from the beginning and i believe i had 37 posts at the start of lylo
starcraft - i was pretty high activity, but it took me a while to get going iirc. i dont feel this was a typical town game for me, really.

[Xtoxm]

Votes on Chkflip.

you make these orders im gonna follow them
VOTE: chkflip
are you enjoying this power?

[Xtoxm]

it was good
but im here to simp for boon

p-ed
apology accepted <3

[Xtoxm]

is this a hypothetical muse, or is it pertinent to the game?
either way, vote the scum claim
reads are trash

[Xtoxm]

thats cute guys

this is a fantastic opportunity tho

VOTE: rcenigma

Why are you voting RCE?

im so glad you asked
first i went to random.org, and pulled 1 integer between 1 and 17
the number was 15
i then compared this number to the playerlist in the op, and found this number matched rcenigma
i proceeded to vote rcenigma
i hope my thought process behind this vote has been enlightening

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: dann

[Xtoxm]

just iso'd chkflip and YES i love it.

[Xtoxm]

Catboi
Skitter30
MT
Dannflor
Starcrossed

[Xtoxm]

Why the moderate Xtoxm townread? What’s he done that is so townie?

As much as I would love to annoy people by discussing reads here, I'll discuss in our hydra chat unless someone else wants me to post. One sec.

-Pluto (Auro)

put a pin in this, auro

[Xtoxm]

signing names

[Xtoxm]

did y'all have fun in the night

[Xtoxm]

my read on starcrossed

[Xtoxm]

yeah, you've kinda summed up my feelings on the system, hop

[Xtoxm]

the energy i have for mafia is being spent elsewhere rn.

[Xtoxm]

odd night loyal messenger, even night disloyal messenger.
i sent a loyal message to starcrossed.
he showed evidence of having received the message.

[Xtoxm]

im still ascetic

[Xtoxm]

right, ok. im unread

[Xtoxm]

he did yes.
super late ¬.¬
but i found it

[Xtoxm]

PS I still want to here Xtoxm's reasoning for why he sent the message to me and why he didnt push me when i failed to mention anime in the beginning of the day.

i was building up to it. i like subtlety. then you dropped the post and it was strong, and have since revealed extra info (my name signing). you got the memo.

Spoiler:

did y'all have fun in the night

my read on starcrossed

i sent you the message bc boon asked for invests to be on you and im a good boi
also i left it til the final hours of deadline, hadn't read the pages prior to my entry and had to make a decision

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: skitter
she backed down from me too easy earlier and its been bothering me. if mt/vmp are town, skitter is scum 100%

[Xtoxm]

i sent a message to gamma.

@skitter, is there anything in your miller ability about loyal/disloyal?

@MT, same question

[Xtoxm]

i wouldn't either, but looks at chk's flip, it's different to mt/skits claim
they both said the same thing, though, i don't think they're both scum
main thing is, i can scan skitter. not saying im going to, just, its an option.

[Xtoxm]

yeah, i get my flip is required for results to be trusted

[Xtoxm]

how does one read an Xtoxm?

assume X is scum until one has overwhelming evidence to the contrary

[Xtoxm]

one of my fav bands

[Xtoxm]

i like the title song on black parade

[Xtoxm]

some of paramores earlier stuff

[Xtoxm]

really cool that you hip fire a random track after tracking my disloyal shot was talked about extensively
you deserve to be faded

[Xtoxm]

you said starcrossed was making me non-ascetic

[Xtoxm]

i have thought about this.
i had the idea out putting one of my currently secret alts in the message, that i'm sure you'd be able to recognise, but i also feel thats a kinda underhanded/unfair.
other than some kinda secret info thing like that im not sure, do you have other ideas?
i do consider it very unlikely that im to die, and kinda okay if it does happen

[Xtoxm]

i feel very confident that starcrossed saw the message, yes

[Xtoxm]

yeah, im more comfortable being on skitter, too

[Xtoxm]

umm. i feel like the key parts of that message are basically outed. don't think it's a great idea. i'd still be thinking is possible they looked what sc said and mimicked it
what i can do, is keep that same message, plus add some new stuff. no reason not to do that.

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: catboi

i share the desire to progress the game
ali..while you're right, there's really no mechanical basis for me doing that before functionally valueless claims the stump wants flipped.

[Xtoxm]

could you post the number please and thank you
due diligence

[Xtoxm]

yep
skitter town
shockingly
my work here is done

[Xtoxm]

starcrossed:
if you can see this, mention anime in your first post tomorrow

-Xtoxm

gamma:
hello!

skitter:
if you can see this, mention anime in your first post tomorrow

-Xtoxm

new stuff: 087416872759

[Xtoxm]

assuming the existence of such a role with no evidence is dumb
follow the path until evidence requires it

[Xtoxm]

this town is disastrous

[Xtoxm]

nah so like what my role actually does since i'm actually reading it now - it makes all night actions work on the top/bottom players on the player list, so like a miller would get a loyal msg, a mafia would get a disloyal msg, an ascetic would get any message - also I think its like a one night thing, I don't think it would work if skitter were to like not be in the top spot anymore

are you certain this is correct?
because one thing means skitter is lock-town, never eliminate
and the other means nothing.

[Xtoxm]

I am going to encourage the other musketeers in xtoxm and skitter to come join me out of protest.
like idunno guys, lunar's play seems really anti-town if town and pretty pro-scum/openwolfing.

mm, i liked the no-protective rule idea
the setup does look like its built around investigatives, and things that mess with investigatives.
then rolestopper stands out on its own.
i've been thinking he's an unlikely draft, but beyond that i don't have a reason to tr him

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: Morning Tweet

anything else to say?

[Xtoxm]

[Xtoxm]

now that i understand your claim and what it does, yeah, theres no reason to do that again
i think boon knows that, though

[Xtoxm]

Magical: If your target is "away from town" or "in another universe", your action will still succeed, and you will allow all other actions performed on your target to succeed, even if it would normally fail from modifiers such as "Disloyal".

[Xtoxm]

i appreciate you thinking of me, chara

[Xtoxm]

hey, it could have been worse

[Xtoxm]

- starcrossed received a loyal message
- starcrossed has confirmed magical powers targeting end of pl

so either another scum with magical (or equivalent) targeted sc on n1 - i dont expect a 2nd with same/similar ability
or sc also magicals himself at night along with neighbor targets - wonky design

[Xtoxm]

hey, it could have been worse

i hate that you just... had this. ready.

i could say something about how i would have been more careful if my role seemed to have some kind of mechanical effect... or i could say something about how this has opened my eyes, and inspired me to go back to playing like Prey Chara, whose reads were about as accurate as mine are now, but whose persona was much more respectable.

or i could say that game never happened and you're a liar.

:3

i like option 2

[Xtoxm]

i cant loyal lunar, he's at the bottom
i should be on glory i think if we're doing it public

[Xtoxm]

right, this game has day abilities
ok.
objection retracted

[Xtoxm]

VOTE: ydra

[Xtoxm]

7834889120

looks good

Should I dial the number and see if Xotxm picks up?

random strings
but you do you

[Xtoxm]

you were at the bottom of pl so you should have got the disloyal message via pookys magical

[Xtoxm]

chara > glory > lunar i guess
its very much a problem for Not Me at this point

[Xtoxm]

if we really wanted to, I don't see the difference between inacting FTC now and inacting it on D6.

its d6 now, and what is ftc

[Xtoxm]

Am I not mechanically cleared?

you are but we are going to run out of non mech clears at some point if the game doesnt end, and with no flipped scum roles that mess with my results, sc clear is strong based on confirmed role, and ninja is unlikely given how restricted a tracker already is in this setup

[Xtoxm]

proving your role is quite meaningless, ftc until 5p gives you enough nights to scan everyone you havent (sc, lunar, chara) at which point you die if you have failed to guilty

[Xtoxm]

can hectic just no kill town into a forced elim to avoid stalemate end to dodge ftc

[Xtoxm]

i sign up for a vs game with a town stump i have a great relationship with and a scum stump who doesnt know me
im sure to get town right?
right???

town played well

[Xtoxm]

Your sig makes it sound like you enjoy scum

there's a lot of scum games ive enjoyed! i just keep rolling it, for like 3 years now, with hardly any town games and im getting burnt out on it.

i sign up for a vs game with a town stump i have a great relationship with and a scum stump who doesnt know me
im sure to get town right?
right???

ur a good player man

thank you <3
you did good mechsolving here that i should have been doing

[Xtoxm]

Scum PT will not be released ever by request

not sure why this is!
i'd just like to say the scum pt was very chill and pleasant, one of the nicest ive been in.

[Xtoxm]

Xtoxm, you claiming Disloyal is what made me believe you were scum early. I made a case on you a few days ago in the mason PT saying that your weak spot is fake claiming as scum, and thr fact that every time I talked to you I town read you is why I thought you were scum here.

yeah i toyed with the idea of hiding the disloyal part of the fake and adding that later, decided to go with the not-hide-shit-from-ic angle i think the position was defensible if i had been pushed much on it. i mean the claim def ended up getting me as deep into the game as i wanted we just lost the endgame wolves along the way unfortunately.

[Xtoxm]

I had a big conversation with Alisae but my main thoughts for the future of this series is:
-stealth meme alts for stumps is a GREAT idea
-masons with town stump is a TERRIBLE idea

i dont think town stump should have any masons or powers, it doesnt really feel like mafia, more like two informed minoritys vs each other. stump should have to work everything out.

(not a complaint abt the result, town was undoubtedly the better team)