TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Guillotina]

In otherwords, this game is totally and intentionally unbalanced.
There was no balancing. We could all have rolled investigatives or cult members if the numbers were weird enough.

Not sure what the rules on Overlap or removal of numbers was.

Maybe I'm just assuming.
Iunno. Shutting up now.

Have you read the grand idea thread? Sometimes you cant tell the difference between Grand Idea and Worse Idea roles tbf.

[Guillotina]

Guillo, what reason do you have to intentionally give yourself a post restriction?

It's Anti-Town at best, and will make you LHF.

I am bored, i love a challenge and I want to try new ways of playing. How is anti town if i still contributed to our wincon despite my self imposed limitations?

[Guillotina]

LHF? HA! Let them try. Tomorrow the wolves will be in a bloody shitstorm courtesy of moi!

[Guillotina]

Or, you know, one of them visits you, potentially sacrificing themselves.

Oooooh! You know what? I like that! Let's run with it.

[Guillotina]

Or, you know, one of them visits you, potentially sacrificing themselves.

If you are thinking it, they are thinking it lol.

Hey who knows? Maybe im baiting scum for a surprising end.

[Guillotina]

Nightvig Nono

Nightvig Guill

gl

Actually I take away the vig on guill incase there is a bodyguard, more than likely guill wont die anyways so like

Bodyguards are not welcome cause they roleblock me, same for doctors. Vigs would roleblock me permanently too. But if Jake theory is true then they get roleblocked permanently as well. Decisions wolves, decisions. What are you gonna do?

[Guillotina]

You know what would be really fun for the next Grand Idea game? To make me Amnesiac cop and have a proxy receiving the results!

[Guillotina]

town you are.

VOTE: Raya
VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Angry Birds
VOTE: Vax
VOTE: dsjstr
VOTE: Flea

Neutral

VOTE: unwnd
VOTE: Toogeloo
VOTE: Magnus V

antitown you are.

VOTE: NDMath
VOTE: Particularly Stupid

VOTE: Pooky

VOTE: KORINA
VOTE: Jake

VOTE: Disney Princesses
VOTE: Nono

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VOTE: BELL / VOTE: Unwnd

Spoiler:

Or

Spoiler:

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VOTE: NONO

100% not solving.

Remember this.

[Guillotina]

@Guillo what happens if the evils have a redirector and redirect a town into you?

What happens if i can sense who redirects players to me?

[Guillotina]

@Guillo what happens if the evils have a redirector and redirect a town into you?

What happens if there is bus driver and they target me and scum?

What happens if there is a traffic controller and they target me and one of my scum reads?

What happens if everything I'm saying is bullshit and I'm just a reflexive multi-shot vigilante?

What happens if I'm just an ascetic cop?

What happens if im a PGO Cop?

What happens if i can plant bombs on whoever i scum read and they blow up at night if they visit me?

What happens if can give 1-shot guns to whoever visits me?

What happens if instead of being a cop, im an Electrician?

What happens if my role reflexively kills redirectors?



I mean we playing based off grand idea roles, anything is possible, right?

Don't visit me. You'll roleblock me or you might die, whatever you wanna believe, dont visit, i got checks to do tonight.

This is my last post during this phase.

[Guillotina]

@Guillo what happens if the evils have a redirector and redirect a town into you?

What happens if i can sense who redirects players to me?

That is increasingly improbable, along with your next message

The point should be obvious: You should have not outed because the scum will always have the upper hand in information.

So cursed be you for being all high and mighty.

god of mafia

[Guillotina]

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Sane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Insane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Naive.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Paranoid.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Insane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Naive.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Sane.

Town Bloodhound

Each night, you may attempt to target a player and learn if they are town/not town. Your sanity is not guaranteed.

Mod Notes: Paranoid.

Wtf Ircher

Sane gets the right result
Insane gets the opposite of the right result
Naive always gets town as result
Paranoid always gets not town as result

Hmmm

[Guillotina]

i'm town xD

11 town yesterday, 8 town today,, 3 less when only 2 are dead
what's the theory?

The theory is Jake is town, which he was.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Nono

[Guillotina]

Every time he is met with a challenge he slanks out.

[Guillotina]

NDMath - Not here

I literally lead the Jake wagon but okay.


@Magnus please elaborate on your vote I don't understand.

i'm town xD

11 town yesterday, 8 town today,, 3 less when only 2 are dead
what's the theory?

The theory is Jake is town, which he was.

You have something after yesterday

right

?


@dsj Where is your role in the GIM thread? ('Usa' is too short of a term for the search function.)

I do and now im just reading the thread. What is the point that unwnd led the wagon on Jake? That sounded rather discrediting and it's not like town leads misyeets all the time. Jake acted like a goddamn jester and it was majority that killed him not just his push. So. What gives?

[Guillotina]

NDMath - Not here

I literally lead the Jake wagon but okay.


@Magnus please elaborate on your vote I don't understand.

i'm town xD

11 town yesterday, 8 town today,, 3 less when only 2 are dead
what's the theory?

The theory is Jake is town, which he was.

You have something after yesterday

right

?


@dsj Where is your role in the GIM thread? ('Usa' is too short of a term for the search function.)

I do and now im just reading the thread. What is the point that unwnd led the wagon on Jake? That sounded rather discrediting and it's not like town leads misyeets all the time. Jake acted like a goddamn jester and it was majority that killed him not just his push. So. What gives?

Is not like town dont lead misyeets all the time *

[Guillotina]

My bad i misread?

[Guillotina]

Misread... goddamn fat fingers!

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Magnus

We have to figure out the veracity of unwnd's results and there is only one way to do it.

My the way, I detected motion around Bell last night.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Magnus

We have to figure out the veracity of unwnd's results and there is only one way to do it.

My the way, I detected motion around Bell last night.

Can confirm.


My vote isn't moving. DJ is caught imo.

Copy

VOTE: dsjstr

[Guillotina]

Yeet Ds, the poor guy shot himself in the foot with a poorly planned fake claim.

[Guillotina]

Ds got caught in the lie and is now lolcatting.

Bell hammer him, if dont dont wanna hammer, let’s do this. I’ll unvote, you vote, I’ll hammer

UNVOTE: Dsjs

[Guillotina]

nah i want to hammer

No i’ll hammer because wolves will want to delay that shit. As soon as he votes i will hammer

[Guillotina]

tick tick tick

whose it gonna be

Ha! If you are a bomb i want it!

[Guillotina]

As soon as i hammer you i’ll take a break of five days cause i dont wanna read your lies.

[Guillotina]

When I wasn't misunderstanding my role and trying to push someone who was actually scummy my lies were to help town why you might ask

1. I don't get slaughtered today 2. Scum could have potentially killed me 3. Numbers are dwindling I could come in clutch and win a 2v2

You said you visited Disney last night right?

[Guillotina]

I detected motion around bell and Flea watched you and me visiting Bell last night.
Why did you lie about visiting Disney? Cause by admitting to accidentally killing a townie you’d get townread. It worked for JacknViggo in another game and it could have worked for you but you got caught.

[Guillotina]

I detected motion around bell and Flea watched you and me visiting Bell last night.
Why did you lie about visiting Disney? Cause by admitting to accidentally killing a townie you’d get townread. It worked for JacknViggo in another game and it could have worked for you but you got caught.

Let this sink in

I don't want to speak so I fuck things up

Fuck things up. I allow it, if you didnt check it looks like we all got fucked up roles and get fucked up results. So fuck things up, maybe that way we’ll get some clarity.

[Guillotina]

Flea said I was visited by Dsj?

That is what they implied when i claimed detecting motion around you.

[Guillotina]

VOTE: Magnus

We have to figure out the veracity of unwnd's results and there is only one way to do it.

My the way, I detected motion around Bell last night.

Can confirm.


My vote isn't moving. DJ is caught imo.

Copy

VOTE: dsjstr

[Guillotina]

I detected motion around bell and Flea watched you and me visiting Bell last night.
Why did you lie about visiting Disney? Cause by admitting to accidentally killing a townie you’d get townread. It worked for JacknViggo in another game and it could have worked for you but you got caught.

This is an amazing misinterpretation of what I said.

I confirmed your motion detection.

I never said how.

You implied it by saying Ds is caught after confirming my action. I knew there is no way you could have tracked me.

[Guillotina]

Am I missing something about dsj's claim for there to be this many votes?

Why dont you check each people's votes and find out? It's been a few pages.
Or do you wanna look like you are game solving?

[Guillotina]

Ok if Flea didnt watch Ds visiting Bell instead of Disney, then im lost about why Ds was a suspect before flea confirming my action. I need to reread. In the meantime.

VOTE: Magnus

We got two cop checks and the sanity has been questioned, i say we have to cross that door and find out.

[Guillotina]

I have something I'd like to get off my chest

So Disney Princess visited me last night...

I am a Town USA and I used my one kill to kill them

DP "visiting" is potentially an easy mistake to make. Depends on the wording of the message DJ got.

um disney princess doesnt visit any1

sooooo VOTE: dj?

This is a shitty ass vote by every possible means. THERES EVEN A ? AT THE END OF IT.

Nobody should be sheeping this. I added context btw...

They would have visited the first person to visit them which was me killing them

Unless there is a second werewolf WHICH THERE ISN'T

The third kill was from me killing DP, that would also make me the werewolf and partners with the guy that died

That said, why would wolf have a PT if not wolves?

They would have visited the first person to visit them which was me killing them

This is what I thought but I did want to make sure before explaining that for you. I'm very suspicious of Flea for jumping on that like that.
VOTE: Flea

Unless there is a second werewolf WHICH THERE ISN'T

I don't get what you mean by this though.

Raya gets townlocked by me btw.

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Unless someone has specific reason otherwise, I'm calling theres no mafia and wolves are the anti-town faction here.
dj is still hella sus, but I got things I wanna prod and poke before we secure a lim.

If DSJ is town USA how come he got informed that he was visited?

[Guillotina]

Neither?? it just said that they were town

Town USA

During world war 2, you have dropped two atomic bombs. However people don't know that you have one more atomic bomb. During one of the nights, you may choose to drop it on someone. If that person is anti-town, that person would die and their factional kill will be removed.

Disney Princesses has died during the night. They were a

1-Shot Reflexive Friendly Neighbor

.

Spoiler: Disney Princesses

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Disney Princesses! You are a

1-Shot Reflexive Friendly Neighbor

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• The first time you are visited, all people that visited you will be informed that you are town.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Why did you target Disney, DS?

[Guillotina]

Neither?? it just said that they were town

Town USA

During world war 2, you have dropped two atomic bombs. However people don't know that you have one more atomic bomb. During one of the nights, you may choose to drop it on someone. If that person is anti-town, that person would die and their factional kill will be removed.

Disney Princesses has died during the night. They were a

1-Shot Reflexive Friendly Neighbor

.

Spoiler: Disney Princesses

TemporalLich's Grand Idea

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Welcome, Disney Princesses! You are a

1-Shot Reflexive Friendly Neighbor

, aligned with the

Town

.

Abilities:
• The first time you are visited, all people that visited you will be informed that you are town.

Win Condition:

•

You win when there are no longer any threats to the

Town

, and at least one

Townie

is still alive.

Please confirm this Role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

Why did you target Disney, DS?

I was going to ignore this because of how bad it is but are you trying to accuse me of figuring out that DP was town then killed them and revealed that I killed them???

Maybe Flea could answer this because it sounds like they understood what you meant because I clearly don't

Im not accusing you, im asking you a question, why did you target Disney? Why do you answer with another question? And more importantly, why do you feel thst my question was an accusation?

Now you got three questions to answer. If your next post is yet another question, im parking a vote on you.

[Guillotina]

I targeted Disney because I wanted to kill them.

I answered with a question because I thought you were trying to make a point.

Are you not trying to kill me?

VOTE: Dsjs

[Guillotina]

I tried to kill them cuz sus but apparently I couldn't but someone else did.

But I still got a message from a friendly neighbor cuz they have good reflexes

Looking into your ISO i couldn't see history of you suspecting Disney. Why did you sus them?

[Guillotina]

Whose idea was it to extend the twilight to 72 hours was from? I think that player made a mistake and meant to post it in the worst idea thread.

[Guillotina]

Good news is. The game is not automatically over which means that either

1) Mafia dont have the numbers to reach parity to us yet.
Or
2) Mafia does not have the KP to reach parity overnight and depend on other parties KP to reach it.
or
3) We'll get an announcement that we lost after twilight which would be really shitty to make us wait three days to let us know that we lost.

[Guillotina]

Good news is. The game is not automatically over which means that either

1) Mafia dont have the numbers to reach parity to us yet.
Or
2) Mafia does not have the KP to reach parity overnight and depend on other parties KP to reach it.
or
3) We'll get an announcement that we lost after twilight which would be really shitty to make us wait three days to let us know that we lost.

This is under the pretense that DS flips town. If he flips Mafia, then i kinda have an idea who the rest of the teammates are.

[Guillotina]

Guillo taking trolling to art form levels

Yah im killing you tonight.

[Guillotina]

thank

god

Just call me Guillo

[Guillotina]

I detected motion around Raya last night.

[Guillotina]

Also, this is the worse game i’ve ever played.

[Guillotina]

This game does not deserve shitposting. It deserves silence (besides venting off about how much this game sucks)

[Guillotina]

The worst part is that im un-nightkillable.

[Guillotina]

NOPE YOU GET SHITPOSTING

And you get a perpetual block for spamming.

[Guillotina]

Oh thank god this game is over for me.

Claim, Town. I kill anyone that visits me and motion detect people. I targeted NDMath last night and there was no motion detection.

Have fun! I never had it.

[Guillotina]

Oh yah and Bell is scum.

[Guillotina]

Let's hash things out here instead of in our PT Math.

1. We don't know whether guilotina is lying about being a motion detector until they flip.
2. I don't know why you're choosing to believe Guilotina's claim without a flip, but choosing to be skeptical of Nono's claim.
3. It's pretty unlikely guilotina is town. In addition, you're saying that you want to believe that it's pooky, I and you. But due to basic math, that is impossible while simultaneously thinking Guilotina is going to flip town as a motion detector whihc is a contradictory position.

1. Stop right there. I have no reason to lie, im already eliminated and you will see my flip, im not spamming Korina.
2. Why would people choose to believe me?

A) on day 1 i fake claimed ascetic so town would not target me and get killed but also luring mafia into trying to kill me to get rekt instead.
B) I claimed PGO in a way that looked like a bluff so wolves would target me. A wolf possibly targeted me and got killed, they had to try and got bitten in their sorry puny ass.
C) All in all i've been trying to save town from me while trying to get mafia killed by targeting me and when it looked it was not working, i tried to let you guys killed me in day 3 and today.
D) Wolves chose today as the day for a fast mischop.

3) Bell is a goddamn wolf or he poorly played as town.

[Guillotina]

6. Based on what Guilotina said, I don't think he's the last of his alignment and he has a partner. Which means that there are a minimum of two not Town factions left (well besides obviously that the game would have ended already if there was only 1 faction lol).
There are only 2 factions left that have a kill.
7. You're gunna have to forgive me in general, I'm not a very good player and I might've missed something. In the set up etc.

6) My partners are townies.
7) I'll forgive you if you are a wolf.

[Guillotina]

I'm a communications cop. I target two people each night and get back whether or not the first player I targeted can communicate with the second. So far it has been pretty useless. I know that Korina couldn't speak to PS, flea couldn't speak to nono, flea couldn't speak to vax, and unwnd couldn't speak to vax.

Who did you target on Night 4?

[Guillotina]

Okay Guillotina if you flip town, I'll believe that you were town.
If you were a sensor/detector and you were not town, I won't believe your results at all.
Deal?
Deal.

I will 1000% flip town. Unless you guys have a day janitor or something that makes roles show different and if that is the case, well played.

[Guillotina]

I barely know what I'm talking about. It's also possible that someone was a cop-like role but their result is simply sent to somebody else.
I forgot what the role was called. But I think that's fairly plausible?

You are talking about Amnesiac Cop who sends to a proxy instead?

[Guillotina]

Okay Guillotina if you flip town, I'll believe that you were town.
If you were a sensor/detector and you were not town, I won't believe your results at all.
Deal?
Deal.

I will 1000% flip town. Unless you guys have a day janitor or something that makes roles show different and if that is the case, well played.

I just want you to know that 1000% percent isn't a real percentage so I hope that was a semi-clever joke, not only because you being town is bad for town bell but also because if you were saying that seriously you just made yourself look silly.

If Guilotina is not town, they're not the survivor and they aren't the last of their faction just based on motivation.

if they're town. Well, that's bad. I remain skeptimacals(I spelled this wrong on purpose).

Oh im sorry i didnt mean 1000% i forgot to add a zero.

Im town and you rushed my chop so if you are town, play better next time. If you are wolf, great game Bell.

[Guillotina]

Bell i know you are scum because when you are town you never rush lynches. In fact ive seen you unvoting when you notice that a player could be flash yeeted.

You are obvious scum here and the towns here are just loltown.

[Guillotina]

VC 5.1

Guillotina

(4.5)

- Bell (1.5), Nono (1.5), PookyTheMagicalBear (1.5)

[EXILED!]

Not voting: Raya36, Vaxkiller, Guillotina, NDMath

With 7 alive it takes greater than 3.5 to exile.

Day 5 will end in (expired on 2021-03-24 00:10:00) or when an exile is reached.

Why did Bell, Nono and Pooky each have 1.5 votes?

[Guillotina]

Yaaaay i didnt enjoy the game, mostly because of the extender but at least we won.

Please, dont use twilight extenders again. Pretty please.

Bell, sorry for the rough words.

Gg everyone