electoral college mafia (now its done watch it go)

[Xtoxm]

damn, imagine if we'd been in a 3p bloc together, auro

[Xtoxm]

#250-251 bugspray still making meme reads/posts on p11, not impressed.

however this paragraph is the extent of the bastardness: i will try not to create any obvious alignment information in these assignments (unless it is very funny)

the key word here is obvious. we know the mod is choosing the pools, and there is info to be drawn for that, even if he's trying to hide things, and it's currently the most solid mechanical thing we have to go on. your attempt to divert town away from this has been noted.

auro / mom feel like scum tbh

not feeling auro. i picked up on a subtle crumb that makes auro locktown here. i can see mom's op as performative.

hey gypyx, could you spoiler your obnoxious oversized images? thanks.

P:edit ah ha good to know. Leave my vote there for now anyway, might spur him on.

riveting
pressure like will definitely effect a change in my behaviour

- lurker push sub 24h into game. im going to be toward the bottom of post counts, but he has no reason to believe this at this stage.
- immediately walks it back when challenged
- leaves a redundant vote hanging despite ceding this ground

things arent looking positive for mozamis

more fluff from bugspray. nice.

VOTE: Mozamis

Gypyx! Xtoxm! Tris! Sheep this pl0x!

kinda amusing coming into this with my backwards catch up
i'll definitely be looking to bloc with you.

Auro how are your reads on day 1

garbage
i'll find scum and get him to push it for me.

Only way I see that happening is if one of you were scum because you two being town together in a 3p block is too OP.

yeah, i agree, tbh

So is there a reason the biggest one is the only one that has an even number

Maybe all 4 scum are there?

gross.

mastina has begun in a town manner
tris is immediately and significantly more engaged than she ever was in TM2020
soft townreading all of my group, as i feel its likely to be low scum density
auro > others as the mod will be aware of our relationship, and putting us both in the large group seems like a way of limiting our agency

suspects: mozamis, momrangal, bugspray, flow trap

i guess i can share my thoughts on what i'd expect for the scum distribution,
something like 1 in {5,6} 2 in {2,3,4} with either 0-1-1 or 0-0-2 equally possible, and 1 in {1}
its highly speculative and im not planning to put a lot of weight on this, however.

i do wanna see how this game develops with a little time, because i think there's a solid chance of disengagement/flaky slots, and if that transpires there's definitely gonna be scum to be found in that category.

[Xtoxm]

if flow trap continues to play..like this..im gonna think its scum shtick to avoid, actually playing the game or giving anything of value. i have little patience for slots that wanna play like jesters.

can everyone say who they're most likely to sheep

i'd say Xtoxm based on what i've seen so far

i appreciate you <3
im not a good sheep because im too stubborn
if i were to, mastina, i think
in the sense that i already like the things you're pushing..you also seem quite sheepable rn

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i feel really good about the wagon diversity, chances are we're going to going to create a lot of good associative read material today

pedit @gygpx yeah i wanna wagon it
jic i didnt vote already
VOTE: flow trap

Oh this is electoral hammer, whew that was a quick D1

Hope you were town, Flow Trap, any final reads?

*twitch*

*twitch*

[Xtoxm]

welcome a50
im glad you got the quiet slot and not the one i want to kill today

VOTE: flow trap
i think this slot is really scummy
offered nothing townie, trolled around, then immediately dipped out when pressured
i will see what the replacement will say, i am voting now mainly so the rep will know why i am voting it and that its not because of them

I AM A JAILKEEPING REFLEXIVE VIGILANTE

im a miller neighbor conditional vigilante

[Xtoxm]

*twitch*

*head tilt*

*twitch*

[Xtoxm]

kind of weird kill does anyone have particular fear/history with mom

i tr all the excluded voters so this day could be tough

auro we can collab on my vote today
shame we cant private chat over it

[Xtoxm]

really?
have you thought this through for more than two seconds?
you think any-align!anya thinks nobody goes to check that post for validity?

this push by you is pretty pathetic
not sure that #633 is a real thought tbqh

[Xtoxm]

call me a £20 note on the ground because
i
am
pocketed

[Xtoxm]

pocket tier:
anya

town leans:
auro
mastina
tsutsu - prob town for rxn to mom dying
OWER - couple likable posts + tr by mom
tris - unlike past scum game


null town:
mozamis - some solving attempts, could still be scum
flea - strong town read by mom, leave for now

Town Up Or Die tier (aka the poe):
vax
a50
bugspray
lend
randy
t3
gypyx
vfp

aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?

[Xtoxm]

pocket tier:
anya

town leans:
auro
mastina
tsutsu - prob town for rxn to mom dying
OWER - couple likable posts + tr by mom
tris - unlike past scum game


null town:
mozamis - some solving attempts, could still be scum
flea - strong town read by mom, leave for now

Town Up Or Die tier (aka the poe):
vax
a50
bugspray
lend
randy
t3
gypyx
vfp

aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?

Hold on a second.. I've got a response to this...

There it is:

Xtoxm failing to townread me is extremely scummy for him

*golf clap*

this joke would land better if i was able to respond tbh

VOTE: Xtoxm

i wanna break some bones
maybe theyll be yours

LHF there.

lhf? Light Hearted Fluff?

Latvia Hockey Federation (Latvijas Hokeja federācija)

It's not that hard to do a Google search, silly.

cute fluff

aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?

Will review this after the weekend, it's fine I think but the game needs way more spice

Who do you think the Minion is??

cute fluff

And I'm not willing to give you a pass because your join date

makes you an old man

I call AGEISM.

VOTE: Tsutsu

valid call out
still see nothing abt the game tho

Also if this mozam something flips town, VFP is scum 100%. The other votes are hard to read but VFP's is very very bad.

I should add that if either of themn is Scum and the other is Town then we have 3 more Scums to catch 100% (I bet you never got that far with your thoughts)

iioa

so basically you said nothing today
and spread it over 8 posts
do you wanna try again
why should i be townreading you here
my view of you rn is basically rep in > immediately try to hammer someone whilst having unformed opinions > done nothing since

VOTE: Anya

also all that being ignored feels like a pain in the ass ngl

i'd be willing to get on VFP / Vax otherwise

i didnt ignore you wat
have i not sufficiently engaged you on this
your vote is terrible
you should feel terrible
i'll fight you

anya did you pocket me like this before
be honest
you did didnt you
oh well i still like it

[Xtoxm]

@mod, v/la, i'm sick

dont like how much this game is being talked abt as bastard, i think people are using that as a pass to avoid scumhunting. this isnt a true bastard game, its a normal with one very explicit mechanic.
my feeling on moz at this point, while he's had bad takes, i cant not townread the effort to some degree. weak town more likely than scum. scum really doesnt have a need to tryhard in this lobby.
a kill on one of the most engaged players would also be incredibly damaging to town here, if he flips town. seems like to a good way to take the game from the current pro-scum gamestate to near-certain scum win gamestate.
so not today for me.

i find myself forced to give town credit to behavior like T3's which, although i feel is super easy to fake as scum, its ~something~ and it differentiates from a whole glob of players that have given me literal zero townpings.

VOTE: Vax

We're anti-vaxxers now

disappointing contribution from you today. i offered you agency through my vote and you made no effort to talk to me.
fos auro.

im not able to build/push a new wagon at this time, so i'll join the one i feel moist likely to flip scum.

VOTE: bugspray

bugspray > vfp > moz aorn.

i see vax is now getting votes, but i cant process it rn.
still would prefer bug, i think.

[Xtoxm]

Hope you're well soon Xtoxm <3

Thank you <3

I disagree on our Moz read, hes the biggest shover of the whole "large games are bastard!" thing.

i mean, i could be. he's at least presenting as trying to solve, though. if moz is scum, there's a bunch of town that needs to step up and show us.
i did a little meta looking at moz, in deciding where to vote, and concluded he likely has a slight trend of posting more as town than scum, but he does do the spamming thing regardless of align.

Bugspray hasn;t really stood out beyond what I pointed initially and that they're super into this game, which honestly I'm just assuming means they're not overgamed for once

players that blend into the background are often scum IME :p
could you expand on this point, perhaps with quotes, cus thats not really the impression ive got from bug?
i think you have to be pretty disengaged from the game to make posts like these:

whatg the hell is even going on

how the fuck did i not know there was someone name t3 in this game until just now

and they seem to be taking refuge in making mostly shitposts.

Whats your thinkin on VFP (if you're able)? Wanna see where you at ^_^

he's kind of on the bubble of the poe. i don't have any strong reason to think he's town.
i looked at his other game, where he was town, his speech looks generally similar and his activity rate is slightly higher in this game that it was there. that's not to say it's town indicitive; simply that i wasn't able to find to a discernible difference to play to suggest that he's scum here.

(this was relatively low effort meta with a focus on activity, which didn't produce much useful for me beyond confirming that players like t3 and vfp have been town in the past and played similar to how they're playing here.
i was looking for differences that might want to make me vote there instead of bug, but did not find any.)

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here is game with two jailkeepers by the same mod: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=78725
if you have no clue how to setup spec then don't fucking do it okay?

vfp's reaction under pressure here is very townie and i don't want this pr claim killed today.
please take him away from the precipice of death.

vfp is town pretty sure

I have a theory about the setup. VFP claimed simple doc, which does not fit with my theory.

i don't give a shit about your theory. you're a newbie in your second game on the site and it's almost certainly garbage.

If there really is a vig here, come kill me tonight. I came into this game solely because mom wanted me to play. Now that mom is gone I have zero motivation nor happiness towards this game.
I may be town but I'd love to get out of this game.

hey, there is another thing that you can do if you don't want to play the game that you signed up for.

i'm from MU

Not Ydra???

i dunno who that is

How strange. You give off heavy ydra vibes

no, she doesn't

randy mastina lend are the wolves

the 4th is harder to find but probably in Auro flow or Vax

we largely agree
randy/bug/lend
^ two wolves and one town that cant be bothered to play
not seeing mastina as scum at this time.
i want to cleanse the easy wolves before going deepwolf hunting.

[Xtoxm]

Tris might be scum. If VFP is scum, I'd suspect Xtoxm too.

right, because putting my neck out to save a buddy who's played shoddily and about to die
and telling him to claim protective when there are already two protective claims on the table
has all the hallmarks of scum!Xtoxm

Xtoxm, who do you have strong townreads on, and why?

i'm not giving you a road map of night kills
fuck off scum

[Xtoxm]

Well, don't blame me for not working with you then

well dont accuse me of being scum right before asking, and lace it into the question
you know i have a strong impulse to scumread those who shade me especially people who know me well
and that its going to piss me off
im anyway skeptical that town!you hasn't managed to locktown me based on play by this point in the game
and working your way into a scumread on me is something i expect scum!you to do at some point cus you know i'd catch you eventually.
"who are your strong townreads and why" is such an unnatural question
i want you to talk to me like you would in a hydra discord chat, just using the thread instead

why do you think vfp is scum?
the role that hes claimed will certainly have to be killed by scum eventually if hes town, so are you really confident enough to take the risk of flipping a tpr on d2?
i am very averse to the risk of flipping powerful tprs prematurely

[Xtoxm]

auro is lockscum

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<3 mastina