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Post Post #528 (isolation #0) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:07 am

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You guys are in luck, for I got to fill in the void.

Unfortunately, it's QUIET, so I'll just SHUT UP. :P

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Post Post #533 (isolation #1) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:45 am

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@Gypyx: Since you're on, who's scum and why? Quick.. quick.. quick..

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Post Post #543 (isolation #2) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:58 am

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In post 535, Gypyx wrote:
In post 533, Almost50 wrote:@Gypyx: Since you're on, who's scum and why? Quick.. quick.. quick..
Momrangal - bad posts here and there, horrendous fakeclaim and behaviour around it
VFP - surface level activity, shady votes
Auro - lesser SR, but don't like his interactions with mom, should prob go take 'nother look at him
Thanks <3

Now, reads on Noraa/mastina/tris por favor?

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Post Post #575 (isolation #3) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:30 pm

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In post 558, Momrangal wrote:MONKEY MAN

HAI
In post 557, Momrangal wrote:I

AM A
JAILKEEPING
REFLEXIVE VIGILANTE
Hi yourself. Sorry you rolled Scum! :(

VOTE: momrangal

Explanation:

Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:

Activated, Announcing, Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Indecisive, Informed, Lazy, Loud, Loyal, Macho, Multitasking, Neighbor, Ninja, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Weak, X-Shot, any modifier restricting to a specific set of nights (e.g. Even/Odd Night, Night Specific, Novice)


Does anybody see Reflexive/Passive on the list?

OK, let's try it another way:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... _modifiers

Do you see Reflexive/Passive on this page??

Now considering the mod said:
In post 1, schadd_ wrote:the skeleton of this game is a 19 player
normal
setup.
And had even reassured me the roles are normal (I asked upon my confirmation of receiving my role and before I ever posted in-thread) I can't help but think momrangal has just fake-claimed, and looking back at the VC at the top of the page I don't even see why she would claim at all (I don't see a single vote on her)

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Post Post #577 (isolation #4) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:38 pm

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In post 576, Flea The Magician wrote:We've had this conversation, just sayin.
Meh! Then I can be scummy as fuck and hammer? Cool!

VOTE: flow trap

Nothing like impersonating N_M. :lol:

OR..

"Did anyone say E-1?"

Nothing like impersonating Flavor Leaf. :P

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Post Post #578 (isolation #5) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

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We can -of course- still wait for the replacement to come in and troll in twilight. :twisted:

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Post Post #584 (isolation #6) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:52 pm

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In post 550, schadd_ wrote:
Spoiler:
Image


vote count 1.5


GROUP 1
flow trap (3):
tris, Anya, VFP
+Xtixm+Almost50
= 5 = Hammer
VFP (1):
Gypyx
Auro (1):
Tsutsu

not voting (3):
Xtoxm, Almost50
, Auro

GROUP 2
Randy Savage (1):
mastina
flow trap (1):
bugspray <---
additional vote


not voting (1):
Randy Savage

GROUP 3
Anya (1):
Momrangal

not voting (2):
Vaxkiller, mozamis

GROUP 4
flow trap (1):
OutWorldER <---
additional vote

VFP (1):
flow trap

not voting (1):
lendunistus

GROUP 5
mozamis (1):
Flea the Magician

GROUP 6
flow trap (1):
T3
<---
additional vote

That's 11 votes in total by my count.

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Post Post #587 (isolation #7) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:57 pm

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In post 550, schadd_ wrote:each group can be considered as allocating all of its group members to a choice once a majority forms within that group. so once 5 players in group 1 are voting for someone, it is as if 8 players are voting for them in a typical game, which is something that can produce a majority with the help of two more votes from other sources
That's not how I interpreted the above quote. My understanding is each individual vote counts as normal, except if a block reaches a majority within itself then ALL votes from that block are considered to be voting on that same player.

We can still wait for the mod to confirm which interpretation is the correct one, but it would ruin my troll if I was the one confused.

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Post Post #588 (isolation #8) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:59 pm

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In post 586, mozamis wrote:
In post 581, OutWorldER wrote:that's hammer for the bloc but FT still needs two electoral votes, I think?
he's contesting michigan
:lol: Good one. (Although, my vote being considered the ultimate
trump card
is even better) :P

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Post Post #589 (isolation #9) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:01 pm

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Like, he was E-3 before I voted. My vote put him @E-2, but -also- instantaneously moved the other 3 votes from my block unto him, making it E+1

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Post Post #590 (isolation #10) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:09 pm

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Btw, IF there's a Vig; please don't shoot me. Let Scum strive and struggle for this one. It'd be most beneficial to town if I do live to -say- D3. ;)

Image

Not a crumb. Definitely not a crumb.

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Post Post #591 (isolation #11) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:12 pm

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Obviously, my MOJO sucks all the air from the room, leaving no one a chance to breath, let alone speak. I have the ultimate say; always. :twisted:

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Post Post #596 (isolation #12) » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:05 pm

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In post 595, Tsutsu wrote:im not hammering btw. dont care what anyone says.
You couldn't hammer even if you wanted to.

I will ISO you for "your solve", but I am ,ore curious as to why you think this could be a town flip? (And don't tell me because of the lack of resistance, cuz that doesn't work)

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Post Post #757 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:24 pm

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In post 626, Anya wrote:VOTE: Anya

i tried to warn you all flow trap was town but no one would listen
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Post Post #758 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:25 pm

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In post 627, Xtoxm wrote:kind of weird kill does anyone have particular fear/history with mom
Why is it weird to kill the claimed PR?

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Post Post #759 (isolation #15) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:28 pm

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In post 632, Anya wrote:
In post 401, Momrangal wrote:Mastina
OWER
Vaxkiller
Anya

Quiet
T3
Auro
Xtoxm
lendunistus
flow trap
Randy Savage
VFP

Tris
Gypyx
mozamis

Currently what I'm working with
maybe i'll sheep this
I'd have no qualms with that, just as soon as you explain to me how she had a read on quiet when he didn't even post a single time.

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Post Post #760 (isolation #16) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:28 pm

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In post 759, Almost50 wrote:
In post 632, Anya wrote:
In post 401, Momrangal wrote:Mastina
OWER
Vaxkiller
Anya

Quiet
T3
Auro
Xtoxm
lendunistus
flow trap
Randy Savage
VFP

Tris
Gypyx
mozamis

Currently what I'm working with
maybe i'll sheep this
I'd have no qualms with that, just as soon as you explain to me how she had a read on quiet when he didn't even post a single time.
And
I am aware
that' my slot

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Post Post #762 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:45 pm

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In post 673, mozamis wrote:I take it everyone in bloc one is going to be very careful of how we vote?
Oh no, not I. I will wait until 6 of you pile on someone and HAMMER! :twisted:

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Post Post #765 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:57 pm

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In post 709, mozamis wrote:given up on me typing anything correctly
Tou meed to xoncentratr ans stsy fpcused whi;e ypu typr

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Post Post #891 (isolation #19) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:03 pm

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In post 786, Xtoxm wrote:pocket tier:
anya

town leans:
auro
mastina
tsutsu - prob town for rxn to mom dying
OWER - couple likable posts + tr by mom
tris - unlike past scum game


null town:
mozamis - some solving attempts, could still be scum
flea - strong town read by mom, leave for now

Town Up Or Die tier (aka the poe):
vax
a50
bugspray
lend
randy
t3
gypyx
vfp

aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?
Hold on a second.. I've got a response to this...

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Post Post #893 (isolation #20) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:06 pm

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There it is:

Xtoxm failing to townread me is extremely scummy for him

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Post Post #894 (isolation #21) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:06 pm

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VOTE: Xtoxm

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Post Post #895 (isolation #22) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:07 pm

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:twisted:

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Post Post #897 (isolation #23) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:10 pm

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In post 800, mozamis wrote:
In post 792, OutWorldER wrote:LHF there.
lhf? Light Hearted Fluff?
Latvia Hockey Federation (Latvijas Hokeja federācija)

It's not that hard to do a Google search, silly. :P

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Post Post #899 (isolation #24) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:15 pm

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In post 813, Auro wrote:
In post 786, Xtoxm wrote:aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?
Will review this after the weekend, it's fine I think but the game needs way more spice
Who do you think the Minion is?? :mrgreen:

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Post Post #900 (isolation #25) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:19 pm

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In post 818, Tsutsu wrote:And I'm not willing to give you a pass because your join date
makes you an old man
I call AGEISM.

VOTE: Tsutsu

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Post Post #901 (isolation #26) » Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:21 pm

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In post 819, Tsutsu wrote:Also if this mozam something flips town, VFP is scum 100%. The other votes are hard to read but VFP's is very very bad.
I should add that if either of themn is Scum and the other is Town then we have 3 more Scums to catch 100% (I bet you never got that far with your thoughts)

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Post Post #985 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:15 pm

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In post 924, Xtoxm wrote:
Spoiler: Long ass post consisting of MY ISO of today with some interesting responses
In post 891, Almost50 wrote:
In post 786, Xtoxm wrote:pocket tier:
anya

town leans:
auro
mastina
tsutsu - prob town for rxn to mom dying
OWER - couple likable posts + tr by mom
tris - unlike past scum game


null town:
mozamis - some solving attempts, could still be scum
flea - strong town read by mom, leave for now

Town Up Or Die tier (aka the poe):
vax
a50
bugspray
lend
randy
t3
gypyx
vfp

aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?
Hold on a second.. I've got a response to this...
In post 893, Almost50 wrote:There it is:

Xtoxm failing to townread me is extremely scummy for him
*golf clap*

this joke would land better if i was able to respond tbh
In post 894, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Xtoxm
i wanna break some bones
maybe theyll be yours
:?
In post 897, Almost50 wrote:
In post 800, mozamis wrote:
In post 792, OutWorldER wrote:LHF there.
lhf? Light Hearted Fluff?
Latvia Hockey Federation (Latvijas Hokeja federācija)

It's not that hard to do a Google search, silly. :P
cute fluff
In post 899, Almost50 wrote:
In post 813, Auro wrote:
In post 786, Xtoxm wrote:aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?
Will review this after the weekend, it's fine I think but the game needs way more spice
Who do you think the Minion is?? :mrgreen:
cute fluff
In post 900, Almost50 wrote:
In post 818, Tsutsu wrote:And I'm not willing to give you a pass because your join date
makes you an old man
I call AGEISM.

VOTE: Tsutsu
valid call out
still see nothing abt the game tho
In post 901, Almost50 wrote:
In post 819, Tsutsu wrote:Also if this mozam something flips town, VFP is scum 100%. The other votes are hard to read but VFP's is very very bad.
I should add that if either of themn is Scum and the other is Town then we have 3 more Scums to catch 100% (I bet you never got that far with your thoughts)
iioa

so basically you said nothing today
and spread it over 8 posts
do you wanna try again
why should i be townreading you here
my view of you rn is basically rep in > immediately try to hammer someone whilst having unformed opinions > done nothing since
So you acknowledge it was a JOKE, but you took it SERIOUSLY?? Which is it??

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Post Post #987 (isolation #28) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:31 pm

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In post 966, mozamis wrote:@ Flea - my gut solve - before I've caught up -is Vax, Xtot, Almost and VFP.
I plead guilty, your honour. Can I get a reduced sentence?

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Post Post #988 (isolation #29) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:34 pm

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In post 978, mozamis wrote:
In post 893, Almost50 wrote:There it is:

Xtoxm failing to townread me is extremely scummy for him
Bad reason to vote someone Day 2.
fos Almost.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #989 (isolation #30) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:36 pm

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In post 978, mozamis wrote:
In post 893, Almost50 wrote:There it is:

Xtoxm failing to townread me is extremely scummy for him
Bad reason to vote someone Day 2.
fos Almost.
Actually: Bad reason to fos someone Day 2.

VOTE: mozamis

:P

UNVOTE:

Just so no one would take advantage of it and lock the votes (I don't even know who's voting whom anymore)

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Post Post #990 (isolation #31) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:40 pm

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In post 980, mozamis wrote:Gun to head, scum team Mastina, Almost, VFP, Auro.
Could've sworn I was put in a team with Xtoxm a short while ago.

@Xtoxm: See? I told you if I voted you we'd be totally unlinked in their eyes. Works every time. Those hapless poor excuses for scum hunters. :P

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Post Post #992 (isolation #32) » Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:30 pm

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Yeah, but you vote me this time. We don't want them figuring it was a one person's playstyle. Let's confuse the hell out of them. ;)

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Post Post #1095 (isolation #33) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:03 am

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In post 994, mastina wrote:aside from mechanics from D1 in groupspec highly likely to indicate mozamis is town
What?? How do you reconcile any "groupspec" with this:
In post 1, schadd_ wrote: something to understand is that these groups will be chosen by me (as well as my team of consultants) to try to be as Evil as possible. to the best of my ability, i will organize the groups in a way that disrupts gameplay, creates unreasonable power dynamics and overvalues certain players' votes, exacerbates personality clashes, and generates a wave of Pure Nonsense that will influence execution choices. as such,
this is a bastard game
, however this paragraph is the extent of the bastardness: i will try not to create any obvious alignment information in these assignments (unless it is very funny) and
nothing else is fishy i promise
- it will be 15:4, normal setup (which you can expect to be not insane), no mod lying, etc. i hope to create a game that you can still theoretically take seriously in spite of it all.
??

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Post Post #1097 (isolation #34) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 995, mastina wrote:Same combination of setup spec
WHAT setup spec?? Are you saying a group of 3 is unlikely to contain 1 scum in between them?

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Post Post #1099 (isolation #35) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:16 am

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In post 1046, bugspray wrote:IVE BEEN CALLING MOZA BUNNY BECAUSE THE AVATAR IS BUNNY
Does that make him bugs bunny??? :lol:

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Post Post #1100 (isolation #36) » Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:20 am

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Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax

Thank you for your time

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Post Post #1230 (isolation #37) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:16 pm

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In post 1104, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 1100, Almost50 wrote:Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax

Thank you for your time
Id vote gypx. If mastina still alive in the later days... typically scum. But somehow im scum with them.
It could be a clash of OS's :P

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Post Post #1233 (isolation #38) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:24 pm

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In post 1132, tris wrote:VOTE: vax
In post 1134, VFP wrote:VOTE: Vax
In post 1133, Auro wrote:VOTE: Vax

We're anti-vaxxers now :o
Spoiler:

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Post Post #1234 (isolation #39) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:28 pm

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In post 1140, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1134, VFP wrote:VOTE: Vax

yet another opportunistic vote from ViolentFinnishPizza
I was Scum with pizza in the game you modded that has just finished. Are you telling me VFP is a 3-headed hydra??

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Post Post #1235 (isolation #40) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:31 pm

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In post 1143, Xtoxm wrote:a kill on one of the most engaged players would also be incredibly damaging to town here, if he flips town
FFS, stop saying TOWNIE stuff. I found out I only hard TR you when you act scummy (and vice versa). :lol:

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Post Post #1237 (isolation #41) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:38 pm

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In post 1156, VFP wrote:Even the mod thinks the votes on me is ludicrous.
You mean ludacris?

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Post Post #1238 (isolation #42) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:41 pm

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In post 1159, Flea The Magician wrote:I've got no experience outside of ongoing with moz
Someone remind me to run a game titled "ongoing". :lol:

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Post Post #1239 (isolation #43) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:45 pm

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In post 1168, mozamis wrote:
In post 1101, VFP wrote:I think I can follow A50.
so happy with lynching this.
My name is outlawed, y'know

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Post Post #1241 (isolation #44) » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:49 pm

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In post 1232, Gypyx wrote:
In post 1230, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1104, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 1100, Almost50 wrote:Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax

Thank you for your time
Id vote gypx. If mastina still alive in the later days... typically scum. But somehow im scum with them.
It could be a clash of OS's :P
OS?
Operating systems

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Post Post #1633 (isolation #45) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:45 am

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In post 1618, schadd_ wrote:
Xtoxm has been killed in the night! they were a
vanilla townie
!
@Whoever did this: I will personally see to it that your eyeballs are shoved up your ass. (and you better believe I will)

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Post Post #1636 (isolation #46) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:15 am

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In post 1620, mozamis wrote:Scum in:
Almost

Auro

Bugspary

T3

Len

Randy
Actually it's bugs/T3/Vax/OutWorldER, but thanks for considering me.

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Post Post #1638 (isolation #47) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 1621, MathBlade wrote:So...
WAIT! So, who did you replace again? Cuz the mod doesn't have your name in the groups for today.

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Post Post #1641 (isolation #48) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:19 am

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Oh, it's Randy. A likely Town slot. OK.

P.S. Will get to that when I reach that point. Only a few posts I guess

P-edit: Yeah. Went to frontpage to check. Thanks :D

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Post Post #1643 (isolation #49) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:28 am

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In post 1642, MathBlade wrote:Do people like just not answering my questions or something?
Typical Mathblade.
In post 1641, Almost50 wrote:P.S. Will get to that when I reach that point. Only a few posts I guess
It was a moment of revelation. I started by doing the undoable. The one thing I've been criticizing mastina for doing. A GROUP'S ANALYSIS.

I made quite a few assumptions though (that totally defy the mod's declared intention of messing with us)

One was lendunistus is Town from today's grouping. lendunistus' vote is hammer unless both groups vote for the same slot. If I was a mod I'd still give control over the hammer to Town as long as Town are the majority. It doesn't make much sense to give that to scum here. (That is precisely what the mod said he might do. I don't believe him tbh). :lol:

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Post Post #1645 (isolation #50) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:49 am

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Second assumption was: G1 on D2 (of 13 slots) was composed as a 13 players Normal setup. i.e. 10:3. This meant only 1 Scum on Auro/tris/Anya/OutWolrdER

Third assumption: G1 on D1 contained 1 Scum at max. Probably none. This gives Scum more weight to control the smaller groups.

Then I went further with my fantasies and theorized NONE was more likely than one. That way 1 scum in each of G2/G3/G4 and 1 in Flea/T3 gives Scum maximum control over the eventual voting, but still leaves Town in control overall.

Are you fillowing? I bet you got lost already. :lol:

1 Scum in lend/Out, with lend esyablished as Town (and flowtrap flipping Town) = Out is SCUM. That makes Auro/Tris/Anya all Town.

As if that wasn't enough moon!logic, I decided to toss in some arbitrary VCA as well. Just a little touch though..

mastina/bugs/Randy containing 1 Scum, and bugs was the one voting flow trap at the end of D1. Granted that didn't even count, but he was also voting momrangel before, so I picked him for the Scum in that group. That makes mastina/Randy Town AND Moz as well (as bugs is tunneling Moz iirc). Moz Town makes Vax Scum.

Back to today's grouping, Flea is with both Vax & Out in G1, so T3 is the Scum between the two (that is another implicit assumption that both groups are 5:2 today... the closest to a Normal setting)

And with that hilarious piece of wisdom I concluded my research and decided I got the solution already, and can proceed with a clear conscience

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Post Post #1646 (isolation #51) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:50 am

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In post 1644, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think most of the scum are in group 1 which seems counter to the current assumption so I wanna see why.
GOOD. You thinking that confirms my (totally unsubstantiated) speculations are correct. :lol:

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Post Post #1651 (isolation #52) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:23 am

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In post 1647, MathBlade wrote:Why are you making the assumptions you have above?
1- Because I can
2- Because otherwise I'd have nothing to use but "gut" and "feelings" and you know how I hate those for scumhunting tools

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Post Post #1654 (isolation #53) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:28 am

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In post 1648, MathBlade wrote:This is the grouping for group two.
You mean DAY TWO. Now, check that again. OBVIOULSY the 4 not in G1 are treestumps. G1 completely controls the elimination and these 4 do not influence the wagon in the least. It makes no sense to have more than 1 scum treestumped (tips off the scales towards town unnaturally, because the scum team is still alive in full, i.e. would be unfair). It makes no sense to have all 4 scums in the group of 13 either because that would be giving Scum more weight that they actually have (they should be 4 in 17, so why treestump 4 townies and nake them 4 on 13?)

So, logically (which this game isn't) the correct choice is 3 in 13 and 1 treestump in 4 (the exact NORMAL distribution)

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Post Post #1655 (isolation #54) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:30 am

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In post 1650, T3 wrote:My theory was that all prs are mailmen.
That'd be sexist. Some should be fe"mail" "women" :P

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Post Post #1657 (isolation #55) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:36 am

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In post 1653, MathBlade wrote:How does your VCA change if Mozamis is scum?
If Mozamis is town?
I already established why I though he was Town.

IF he is scum though, I haven't done the work yet.

Also, you don't really want to rely on MY VCA. I do strange stuff and have no solid rules for it. It's unauthentic at best.

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Post Post #1659 (isolation #56) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:39 am

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In post 1656, MathBlade wrote:Until we see a scum flip somewhere that supports your theory I don’t think that’s a valid assumption to make.
You won't get "a scum flip somewhere that supports your theory" unless you do eliminate in my pool though. :lol:

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Post Post #1661 (isolation #57) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:40 am

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Like, you literally just committed to voting one of my 4 suspects to test my theory. Either that or you have to get a scum flip outside of my 4 suspects to disprove my theory.

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Post Post #1663 (isolation #58) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:43 am

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In post 1658, MathBlade wrote:I am using it to sort you
You don't need to. You're either Town and should take it on faith that I am, or you're scum and
know
that I'm Town. My theory assumes you're Town (actually it doesn't. It
leads to the conclusion
that you are, based on other assumptions). Do you disagree?? :lol:

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Post Post #1666 (isolation #59) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:46 am

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In post 1662, MathBlade wrote:Correct. It’s more your theory is one that’s really unfalsifiable and I hate those.
We could elim everyone off group to see if you’re right but I don’t think that’s smart strategically.
Having a foundation that’s an unfalsifiable assumption is bad.
On contrary, it only takes ONE bad result to prove it wrong. You should support my elimination pool until we get a green flip in it. If one flips green THEN I'm proven wrong.

In other words; you do get a scum flip or prove me wrong TODAY. It's not THAT bad if you look at the other options.

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Post Post #1678 (isolation #60) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:48 am

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In post 1667, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1663, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1658, MathBlade wrote:I am using it to sort you
You don't need to. You're either Town and should take it on faith that I am, or you're scum and
know
that I'm Town. My theory assumes you're Town (actually it doesn't. It
leads to the conclusion
that you are, based on other assumptions). Do you disagree?? :lol:
Incorrect methods can get correct results.

I obviously do not disagree with the conclusion that I am town I just wanna make sure I am not starting with flawed assumptions.
Now you're definitely arguing for the sake of arguing. :lol:

Seriously, what's wrong with
getting correct results
regardless of how solid/flawed the method is?? Isn't your goal supposed to be WIN THE GAME??

Let me reiterate: Let's say that my method is full of BS, but I got damn too lucky and caught the scum team by mere chance. Would you say no that because "the method was flawed"???

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Post Post #1679 (isolation #61) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 1668, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1666, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1662, MathBlade wrote:Correct. It’s more your theory is one that’s really unfalsifiable and I hate those.
We could elim everyone off group to see if you’re right but I don’t think that’s smart strategically.
Having a foundation that’s an unfalsifiable assumption is bad.
On contrary, it only takes ONE bad result to prove it wrong. You should support my elimination pool until we get a green flip in it. If one flips green THEN I'm proven wrong.

In other words; you do get a scum flip or prove me wrong TODAY. It's not THAT bad if you look at the other options.
Uhm I don’t see how?

We would need 2+ scum in treestumps or none to invalidate your claim of 1 scum in three stumps.
Can you try again in a different way?
ELIMINATE IN MY PoE!! If we get a scum flip we ELIMINATE IN MY PoE AGAIN. If we get a green flip we know my theory is incorrect.

You do NOT go AGAINST a theory to prove it's wrong. You FOLLOW IT until it gives you bad results.

Like, why the hell would you even consider eliminating a SECOND player in the Treestumps pool if we do get a Scum flip from OutWorldER?? A Scum flip in OutWorldER makes it "more likely" my plan/theory works, and that dictates you do NOT eliminate in Anya/Auro/tris before we get a green flip in Vax/bugs/T3.

I sometimes really wonder how your brain works. (NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN INSULT. I said it once to someone and they got offended by it. Saying "I wonder how this works" is actually an expre3ssion of amazement and/or admiration. In this case it is obviously not admiration (as I am opposed to it), but it still expresses amazement, or even confusion if you will, but certainly not "an insult")

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Post Post #1688 (isolation #62) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:47 am

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In post 1682, Gypyx wrote:so uh hey, tired af but i'll try to re-read tommorow morning.

today's blocks look neat in terms of reparition ngl

a50, you setup spec looks based on too many moving parts to be reliable imo, you're building conclusions on conclusions on conclusions, i think the problem is pretty obvious right?
TEST .. IT! Just eliminate -say- Vax (the least contributing player alive. Hell. Mathblade already made as many posts as Vax, and he only joined the game today)

Also, ISO Vax and try to come up with a Town!case for him @ANYONE.

Hell, the guys says this on Monday:
In post 1009, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 915, Anya wrote:Vax looks like bored wolf
As opposed to "not having enough time to catch up on a busy weekend" town?
Then proceeds to post even less on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday

VOTE: Vaxkiller

Revenge of the Vax
It is
Revenge of the Vax
Come on
Revenge of the Vax
Oh, my god
You know that I'll be back
Here I am

Revenge of the Vax
Once again
Revenge of the Vax
Top of the world
Revenge of the Vax
Watch my flow
You know that I'll be back
Here I go

So, I'm back up in the game
(Running things like my swing)
Lettin' all the people know
That I'm back to run the show
Cause what they didn't know was wrong
And all the nasty things you've done
So, baby, listen carefully
While I sing my comeback song

He lied to us
Cause he said he'd post a bit some more
He lied to us
But he actually never did
He lied to us
All these posts he said he'll contribute
He lied to us
Wasn't true, wasn't true true true

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Post Post #1695 (isolation #63) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:56 am

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In post 1684, tris wrote:this theory by almost is insane
Which makes it even more likely to be correct. :lol:

You see, when I try "sane" stuff I go down all the wrong ways. When I sound insane I somehow hit the bull's eye.

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Post Post #1696 (isolation #64) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:57 am

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In post 1686, tris wrote:
In post 590, Almost50 wrote:Btw, IF there's a Vig; please don't shoot me. Let Scum strive and struggle for this one. It'd be most beneficial to town if I do live to -say- D3. ;)

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Not a crumb. Definitely not a crumb.
it is now d3. anything you want to share?
I did. I gave you a full solve already.

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Post Post #1702 (isolation #65) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:02 pm

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In post 1691, bugspray wrote:almost50 i think your theory is pretty solid but can you put it all together in one big post? it's hard to follow in multuple posts over three pages
if we can communicate the idea better we can proibabyl convince mathblade
I did. It was over only 2 posts:
In post 1643, Almost50 wrote:
It was a moment of revelation. I started by doing the undoable. The one thing I've been criticizing mastina for doing. A GROUP'S ANALYSIS.

I made quite a few assumptions though (that totally defy the mod's declared intention of messing with us)

One was lendunistus is Town from today's grouping. lendunistus' vote is hammer unless both groups vote for the same slot. If I was a mod I'd still give control over the hammer to Town as long as Town are the majority. It doesn't make much sense to give that to scum here. (That is precisely what the mod said he might do. I don't believe him tbh). :lol:

To be followed
In post 1645, Almost50 wrote:Second assumption was: G1 on D2 (of 13 slots) was composed as a 13 players Normal setup. i.e. 10:3. This meant only 1 Scum on Auro/tris/Anya/OutWolrdER

Third assumption: G1 on D1 contained 1 Scum at max. Probably none. This gives Scum more weight to control the smaller groups.

Then I went further with my fantasies and theorized NONE was more likely than one. That way 1 scum in each of G2/G3/G4 and 1 in Flea/T3 gives Scum maximum control over the eventual voting, but still leaves Town in control overall.

Are you fillowing? I bet you got lost already. :lol:

1 Scum in lend/Out, with lend esyablished as Town (and flowtrap flipping Town) = Out is SCUM. That makes Auro/Tris/Anya all Town.

As if that wasn't enough moon!logic, I decided to toss in some arbitrary VCA as well. Just a little touch though..

mastina/bugs/Randy containing 1 Scum, and bugs was the one voting flow trap at the end of D1. Granted that didn't even count, but he was also voting momrangel before, so I picked him for the Scum in that group. That makes mastina/Randy Town AND Moz as well (as bugs is tunneling Moz iirc). Moz Town makes Vax Scum.

Back to today's grouping, Flea is with both Vax & Out in G1, so T3 is the Scum between the two (that is another implicit assumption that both groups are 5:2 today... the closest to a Normal setting)

And with that hilarious piece of wisdom I concluded my research and decided I got the solution already, and can proceed with a clear conscience
I also very much appreciate the nice gesture, considering you are part of my solve. :lol:

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Post Post #1734 (isolation #66) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:04 pm

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In post 1732, Anya wrote:ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger
Come again??

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Post Post #1740 (isolation #67) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:57 pm

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In post 1735, Anya wrote:ok i'll claim i dunno exactly what it does but i'm a loyal messenger
VOTE: Anya

Seriously, I don't give a damn about the end result anymore. You need to be eliminated on principle.

1- Not knowing what your role does on D3 is just plain BULLSHIT
2- EVEN if it's true, then it shows incompetence at it's worst
3- You sending out messages to people who won't respond to it and serves no purpose is another utter bullshit move. Like, even if someone did receive a message saying "hi wolf",, what the freak are they supposed to do with that?
4- Eliminating you does the trick for me. If you flip green we've got 2 suspects in both your targets (although I would argue your "hint" on D2 gave away your role and thus you could have been blocked on N2). If you flip red though we know both Math and OutWorldER are Town (note that Out is in my solve, so that would prove my theory wrong anyway)
5, 6, 7, ... , X (sub n)= X (sub n-1) +1 : Your play sucks and you don't even care about the game. DIE.

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Post Post #1742 (isolation #68) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:00 pm

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In post 1739, MathBlade wrote:
In post 644, Gypyx wrote:so basically, Anya created a fake message that she presented as something she actually said

and my quote is the actual message she made in post 414

pedit : well, idk, i know it's something i've thought seriously about doing in the past and like, peoples don't *usually* check if quotes are real ya know
Looking at Out’s ISO out said they got Mom’s message

Sometimes the simplest answer is right.

Anya is scum and so is Mastina.
As I said, I don't care anymore. I just want Anya limmed for incompetence even if she was somehow mod confirmed a townie. This is unacceptable play IF it came from Town. Now imagine how much more I want her limmed if she is indeed Scum.

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Post Post #1743 (isolation #69) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 4:00 pm

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In post 1741, Anya wrote:i'm just a vanilla townie lol
OK, so based on your ISO + this recent stunt I want you limmed AND blacklisted.

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Post Post #1756 (isolation #70) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:11 pm

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In post 1751, Anya wrote:schadd they're bullying me
Ape UP and fight like a simian

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Post Post #1762 (isolation #71) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:21 pm

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In post 1760, MathBlade wrote:Now that I am outed as a PR masons or another targeting role or whatever Mastina is/claims to be doesn’t make sense.
I seriously don't know what the matter with you and mastina is and I don't really care. Setup spec in a schadd game isn't the smartest option though. Try another angle if you will.

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Post Post #1763 (isolation #72) » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:23 pm

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In post 1761, MathBlade wrote:
In post 684, Tsutsu wrote:
In post 682, mastina wrote:For the record her dying message to me (at least I am assuming it was from her) said that you were town. <3
Oh how interesting.
VOTE: Mastina
She targeted me last night
How exactly did Mastina both be blocked and target tsu with an action?

That doesn’t make sense.
English is a tricky language, is it not??

Let me translate: "Oh how interesting" = "I find this hard to believe and I think you're lying"

The vote on mastina is a vote on mastina

"She targeted me last night" = "MOMRAGNAL targeted me last night"

I hope that helps

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Post Post #1866 (isolation #73) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:04 pm

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In post 1784, Anya wrote:but almost50 and flea seem to have something against me
Damn right I do. I am one to joke a LOT myself. I like having fun in games. But I do not ignore the
playing Mafia
part altogether, and IF I DO, I don't ALSO sabotage the game. Like, you could have joked about NON-GAME RELEVANT STUFF. But you didn't stop at that, you actually misused your role (if your claim is true), outed a TPR (if Math's claim is true) or gave Scum a way to manipulate the game (if Math's claim is fake).

In short, I don't see a way for your "play" to be considered neutral, let alone pro-town. It's pro-scum all the way to the moon and back, and THAT is what I have against you.

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Post Post #1867 (isolation #74) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:20 pm

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In post 1789, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1787, T3 wrote:Alright... I really don't see Anya playing like this as town.
I kinda think T3 is scum too

Reads list best guess:
{Mastina,Auro,T3, Tsu } << High probability
{{Lurkers}}
{Flea} << Gut probably wrong here but see if still a game
{Moz} << Can’t shake my gut scum but probably town mechanically
{Everyone else}
Hmmm.. so am I lu8rkers or am I Everyone else here?? :lol:

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Post Post #1868 (isolation #75) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:20 pm

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WHERE did this 8 come from???????

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Post Post #1870 (isolation #76) » Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:30 pm

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In post 1851, mozamis wrote:This isnt Almost's town game at all.
If it weren't for the "Anya debacle" I would say would string up Almost fairly soon.
IF you are Town; you need to put this in your sig post-game:

NEVER EVER EVER META A50

Thank you

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Post Post #1961 (isolation #77) » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:12 am

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In post 1956, Vaxkiller wrote:Is this to a song, or is this an original?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1D9wWxd2w&t=63s

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