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You guys are in luck, for I got to fill in the void.
Unfortunately, it's QUIET, so I'll just SHUT UP.
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@Gypyx: Since you're on, who's scum and why? Quick.. quick.. quick..
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Thanks <3In post 535, Gypyx wrote:
Momrangal - bad posts here and there, horrendous fakeclaim and behaviour around itIn post 533, Almost50 wrote:@Gypyx: Since you're on, who's scum and why? Quick.. quick.. quick..
VFP - surface level activity, shady votes
Auro - lesser SR, but don't like his interactions with mom, should prob go take 'nother look at him
Now, reads on Noraa/mastina/tris por favor?
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Hi yourself. Sorry you rolled Scum!
VOTE: momrangal
Explanation:
Modifiers which are explicitly Normal for any alignment include:
Activated, Announcing, Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Combined, Complex, Compulsive, Disloyal, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Indecisive, Informed, Lazy, Loud, Loyal, Macho, Multitasking, Neighbor, Ninja, Non-Consecutive Night, Personal, Roaming, Simple, Weak, X-Shot, any modifier restricting to a specific set of nights (e.g. Even/Odd Night, Night Specific, Novice)
Does anybody see Reflexive/Passive on the list?
OK, let's try it another way:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... _modifiers
Do you see Reflexive/Passive on this page??
Now considering the mod said:
And had even reassured me the roles are normal (I asked upon my confirmation of receiving my role and before I ever posted in-thread) I can't help but think momrangal has just fake-claimed, and looking back at the VC at the top of the page I don't even see why she would claim at all (I don't see a single vote on her)
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Meh! Then I can be scummy as fuck and hammer? Cool!In post 576, Flea The Magician wrote:We've had this conversation, just sayin.
VOTE: flow trap
Nothing like impersonating N_M.
OR..
"Did anyone say E-1?"
Nothing like impersonating Flavor Leaf.
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We can -of course- still wait for the replacement to come in and troll in twilight.
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That's 11 votes in total by my count.
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That's not how I interpreted the above quote. My understanding is each individual vote counts as normal, except if a block reaches a majority within itself then ALL votes from that block are considered to be voting on that same player.In post 550, schadd_ wrote:each group can be considered as allocating all of its group members to a choice once a majority forms within that group. so once 5 players in group 1 are voting for someone, it is as if 8 players are voting for them in a typical game, which is something that can produce a majority with the help of two more votes from other sources
We can still wait for the mod to confirm which interpretation is the correct one, but it would ruin my troll if I was the one confused.
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Good one. (Although, my vote being considered the ultimateIn post 586, mozamis wrote:
he's contesting michiganIn post 581, OutWorldER wrote:that's hammer for the bloc but FT still needs two electoral votes, I think?trump cardis even better)
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Like, he was E-3 before I voted. My vote put him @E-2, but -also- instantaneously moved the other 3 votes from my block unto him, making it E+1
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Btw, IF there's a Vig; please don't shoot me. Let Scum strive and struggle for this one. It'd be most beneficial to town if I do live to -say- D3.
Not a crumb. Definitely not a crumb.
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Obviously, my MOJO sucks all the air from the room, leaving no one a chance to breath, let alone speak. I have the ultimate say; always.
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You couldn't hammer even if you wanted to.In post 595, Tsutsu wrote:im not hammering btw. dont care what anyone says.
I will ISO you for "your solve", but I am ,ore curious as to why you think this could be a town flip? (And don't tell me because of the lack of resistance, cuz that doesn't work)
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In post 626, Anya wrote:VOTE: Anya
i tried to warn you all flow trap was town but no one would listen
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Why is it weird to kill the claimed PR?In post 627, Xtoxm wrote:kind of weird kill does anyone have particular fear/history with mom
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I'd have no qualms with that, just as soon as you explain to me how she had a read on quiet when he didn't even post a single time.In post 632, Anya wrote:
maybe i'll sheep thisIn post 401, Momrangal wrote:Mastina
OWER
Vaxkiller
Anya
Quiet
T3
Auro
Xtoxm
lendunistus
flow trap
Randy Savage
VFP
Tris
Gypyx
mozamis
Currently what I'm working with
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AndIn post 759, Almost50 wrote:
I'd have no qualms with that, just as soon as you explain to me how she had a read on quiet when he didn't even post a single time.In post 632, Anya wrote:
maybe i'll sheep thisIn post 401, Momrangal wrote:Mastina
OWER
Vaxkiller
Anya
Quiet
T3
Auro
Xtoxm
lendunistus
flow trap
Randy Savage
VFP
Tris
Gypyx
mozamis
Currently what I'm working withI am awarethat' my slot
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Oh no, not I. I will wait until 6 of you pile on someone and HAMMER!In post 673, mozamis wrote:I take it everyone in bloc one is going to be very careful of how we vote?
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Tou meed to xoncentratr ans stsy fpcused whi;e ypu typrIn post 709, mozamis wrote:given up on me typing anything correctly
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Hold on a second.. I've got a response to this...In post 786, Xtoxm wrote:pocket tier:
anya
town leans:
auro
mastina
tsutsu - prob town for rxn to mom dying
OWER - couple likable posts + tr by mom
tris - unlike past scum game
null town:
mozamis - some solving attempts, could still be scum
flea - strong town read by mom, leave for now
Town Up Or Die tier (aka the poe):
vax
a50
bugspray
lend
randy
t3
gypyx
vfp
aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?
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There it is:
Xtoxm failing to townread me is extremely scummy for him
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Latvia Hockey Federation (Latvijas Hokeja federācija)
It's not that hard to do a Google search, silly.
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Who do you think the Minion is??In post 813, Auro wrote:
Will review this after the weekend, it's fine I think but the game needs way more spiceIn post 786, Xtoxm wrote:aurooo wat u think of the poe and whats urs looking like?
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I call AGEISM.In post 818, Tsutsu wrote:And I'm not willing to give you a pass because your join datemakes you an old man
VOTE: Tsutsu
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I should add that if either of themn is Scum and the other is Town then we have 3 more Scums to catch 100% (I bet you never got that far with your thoughts)In post 819, Tsutsu wrote:Also if this mozam something flips town, VFP is scum 100%. The other votes are hard to read but VFP's is very very bad.
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So you acknowledge it was a JOKE, but you took it SERIOUSLY?? Which is it??In post 924, Xtoxm wrote:Spoiler: Long ass post consisting of MY ISO of today with some interesting responses
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I plead guilty, your honour. Can I get a reduced sentence?In post 966, mozamis wrote:@ Flea - my gut solve - before I've caught up -is Vax, Xtot, Almost and VFP.
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Actually: Bad reason to fos someone Day 2.
VOTE: mozamis
UNVOTE:
Just so no one would take advantage of it and lock the votes (I don't even know who's voting whom anymore)
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Could've sworn I was put in a team with Xtoxm a short while ago.In post 980, mozamis wrote:Gun to head, scum team Mastina, Almost, VFP, Auro.
@Xtoxm: See? I told you if I voted you we'd be totally unlinked in their eyes. Works every time. Those hapless poor excuses for scum hunters.
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Yeah, but you vote me this time. We don't want them figuring it was a one person's playstyle. Let's confuse the hell out of them.
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What?? How do you reconcile any "groupspec" with this:In post 994, mastina wrote:aside from mechanics from D1 in groupspec highly likely to indicate mozamis is town
??In post 1, schadd_ wrote: something to understand is that these groups will be chosen by me (as well as my team of consultants) to try to be as Evil as possible. to the best of my ability, i will organize the groups in a way that disrupts gameplay, creates unreasonable power dynamics and overvalues certain players' votes, exacerbates personality clashes, and generates a wave of Pure Nonsense that will influence execution choices. as such,this is a bastard game, however this paragraph is the extent of the bastardness: i will try not to create any obvious alignment information in these assignments (unless it is very funny) andnothing else is fishy i promise- it will be 15:4, normal setup (which you can expect to be not insane), no mod lying, etc. i hope to create a game that you can still theoretically take seriously in spite of it all.
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WHAT setup spec?? Are you saying a group of 3 is unlikely to contain 1 scum in between them?In post 995, mastina wrote:Same combination of setup spec
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Does that make him bugs bunny???In post 1046, bugspray wrote:IVE BEEN CALLING MOZA BUNNY BECAUSE THE AVATAR IS BUNNY
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Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax
Thank you for your time
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It could be a clash of OS'sIn post 1104, Vaxkiller wrote:
Id vote gypx. If mastina still alive in the later days... typically scum. But somehow im scum with them.In post 1100, Almost50 wrote:Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax
Thank you for your time
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I was Scum with pizza in the game you modded that has just finished. Are you telling me VFP is a 3-headed hydra??
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FFS, stop saying TOWNIE stuff. I found out I only hard TR you when you act scummy (and vice versa).In post 1143, Xtoxm wrote:a kill on one of the most engaged players would also be incredibly damaging to town here, if he flips town
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Someone remind me to run a game titled "ongoing".In post 1159, Flea The Magician wrote:I've got no experience outside of ongoing with moz
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My name is outlawed, y'knowIn post 1168, mozamis wrote:
so happy with lynching this.In post 1101, VFP wrote:I think I can follow A50.
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Operating systemsIn post 1232, Gypyx wrote:
OS?In post 1230, Almost50 wrote:
It could be a clash of OS'sIn post 1104, Vaxkiller wrote:
Id vote gypx. If mastina still alive in the later days... typically scum. But somehow im scum with them.In post 1100, Almost50 wrote:Preliminary solve: 3 Scums in mastina/Gypyx/Vax
Thank you for your time
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@Whoever did this: I will personally see to it that your eyeballs are shoved up your ass. (and you better believe I will)
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Actually it's bugs/T3/Vax/OutWorldER, but thanks for considering me.
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WAIT! So, who did you replace again? Cuz the mod doesn't have your name in the groups for today.In post 1621, MathBlade wrote:So...
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Oh, it's Randy. A likely Town slot. OK.
P.S. Will get to that when I reach that point. Only a few posts I guess
P-edit: Yeah. Went to frontpage to check. Thanks
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Typical Mathblade.In post 1642, MathBlade wrote:Do people like just not answering my questions or something?
It was a moment of revelation. I started by doing the undoable. The one thing I've been criticizing mastina for doing. A GROUP'S ANALYSIS.In post 1641, Almost50 wrote:P.S. Will get to that when I reach that point. Only a few posts I guess
I made quite a few assumptions though (that totally defy the mod's declared intention of messing with us)
One was lendunistus is Town from today's grouping. lendunistus' vote is hammer unless both groups vote for the same slot. If I was a mod I'd still give control over the hammer to Town as long as Town are the majority. It doesn't make much sense to give that to scum here. (That is precisely what the mod said he might do. I don't believe him tbh).
To be followed
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Second assumption was: G1 on D2 (of 13 slots) was composed as a 13 players Normal setup. i.e. 10:3. This meant only 1 Scum on Auro/tris/Anya/OutWolrdER
Third assumption: G1 on D1 contained 1 Scum at max. Probably none. This gives Scum more weight to control the smaller groups.
Then I went further with my fantasies and theorized NONE was more likely than one. That way 1 scum in each of G2/G3/G4 and 1 in Flea/T3 gives Scum maximum control over the eventual voting, but still leaves Town in control overall.
Are you fillowing? I bet you got lost already.
1 Scum in lend/Out, with lend esyablished as Town (and flowtrap flipping Town) = Out is SCUM. That makes Auro/Tris/Anya all Town.
As if that wasn't enough moon!logic, I decided to toss in some arbitrary VCA as well. Just a little touch though..
mastina/bugs/Randy containing 1 Scum, and bugs was the one voting flow trap at the end of D1. Granted that didn't even count, but he was also voting momrangel before, so I picked him for the Scum in that group. That makes mastina/Randy Town AND Moz as well (as bugs is tunneling Moz iirc). Moz Town makes Vax Scum.
Back to today's grouping, Flea is with both Vax & Out in G1, so T3 is the Scum between the two (that is another implicit assumption that both groups are 5:2 today... the closest to a Normal setting)
And with that hilarious piece of wisdom I concluded my research and decided I got the solution already, and can proceed with a clear conscience
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GOOD. You thinking that confirms my (totally unsubstantiated) speculations are correct.In post 1644, MathBlade wrote:I kinda think most of the scum are in group 1 which seems counter to the current assumption so I wanna see why.
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1- Because I canIn post 1647, MathBlade wrote:Why are you making the assumptions you have above?
2- Because otherwise I'd have nothing to use but "gut" and "feelings" and you know how I hate those for scumhunting tools
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You mean DAY TWO. Now, check that again. OBVIOULSY the 4 not in G1 are treestumps. G1 completely controls the elimination and these 4 do not influence the wagon in the least. It makes no sense to have more than 1 scum treestumped (tips off the scales towards town unnaturally, because the scum team is still alive in full, i.e. would be unfair). It makes no sense to have all 4 scums in the group of 13 either because that would be giving Scum more weight that they actually have (they should be 4 in 17, so why treestump 4 townies and nake them 4 on 13?)In post 1648, MathBlade wrote:This is the grouping for group two.
So, logically (which this game isn't) the correct choice is 3 in 13 and 1 treestump in 4 (the exact NORMAL distribution)
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That'd be sexist. Some should be fe"mail" "women"In post 1650, T3 wrote:My theory was that all prs are mailmen.
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I already established why I though he was Town.
IF he is scum though, I haven't done the work yet.
Also, you don't really want to rely on MY VCA. I do strange stuff and have no solid rules for it. It's unauthentic at best.
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You won't get "a scum flip somewhere that supports your theory" unless you do eliminate in my pool though.In post 1656, MathBlade wrote:Until we see a scum flip somewhere that supports your theory I don’t think that’s a valid assumption to make.
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Like, you literally just committed to voting one of my 4 suspects to test my theory. Either that or you have to get a scum flip outside of my 4 suspects to disprove my theory.
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You don't need to. You're either Town and should take it on faith that I am, or you're scum andIn post 1658, MathBlade wrote:I am using it to sort youknowthat I'm Town. My theory assumes you're Town (actually it doesn't. Itleads to the conclusionthat you are, based on other assumptions). Do you disagree??
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On contrary, it only takes ONE bad result to prove it wrong. You should support my elimination pool until we get a green flip in it. If one flips green THEN I'm proven wrong.In post 1662, MathBlade wrote:Correct. It’s more your theory is one that’s really unfalsifiable and I hate those.
We could elim everyone off group to see if you’re right but I don’t think that’s smart strategically.
Having a foundation that’s an unfalsifiable assumption is bad.
In other words; you do get a scum flip or prove me wrong TODAY. It's not THAT bad if you look at the other options.
Modded 2 Opens & 2 Large Themed games successfully.