TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Flea The Magician]

Well I need to do my thing if I want to or not apparently...

VOTE: Korina
Cats are best. fite me.

@mod, limited access due to pain flare

- returns from date is inaccurate because I don't know how long it's going to last.

[Flea The Magician]

When I first got my role PM, I was disappointed. I got Vanilla Townie. But then I noticed that it had a passive ability not usually associated with VTs.

While I'm alive, the vote count can't be tampered with. Things like Double Voters or Hated/Loved townies are treated like normal players.

So, yeah, I'm a VT with a passive that might be gating a few players.

I mean if I get a bout of OCD I make the vote count pointless...

[Flea The Magician]

POOKY DON'T FALL FOR THE ATE.
YOU KNOW IT'S BAD TIMES
I STILL FEEL BAD!

Also I missed the census results, I think I'm happy in that pool today.

The reason I think is because someone needs to stop my head spinning.

Ooooo if someone wants to give me a post restriction I'd be well happy

Do we have have hydras in hydras?

Ngl I have no freaking clue whos who in this game.

Now where was that wagon....
Korina, Magnus, Pooky and Raya...

VOTE: Magnus?

[Flea The Magician]

POOKY DON'T FALL FOR THE ATE.
YOU KNOW IT'S BAD TIMES
I STILL FEEL BAD!

Also I missed the census results, I think I'm happy in that pool today.

The reason I think is because someone needs to stop my head spinning.

Ooooo if someone wants to give me a post restriction I'd be well happy

Do we have have hydras in hydras?

Ngl I have no freaking clue whos who in this game.

Now where was that wagon....
Korina, Magnus, Pooky and Raya...

VOTE: Magnus?

scum for sure with this kinda post

-koba

ohai koba <3

[Flea The Magician]

o7

Guess you have not heard of where I'm from

o7

Amuse me

I MEAN, I WOULD ASSUME YOU’RE BRITISH BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW BRITISH “PEOPLE” DON’T EXIST
/SARCASM

*slowly wibbles out of existence and implodes at the last moment leaving a tea set with cold tea and hard cakes*

[Flea The Magician]

In some vaguely serious shitposting...

Expand on your read on me dsj. I know why koba is reading me as they are, I wanna know why you're reading me as you are

[Flea The Magician]

In some vaguely serious shitposting...

Expand on your read on me dsj. I know why koba is reading me as they are, I wanna know why you're reading me as you are

Meds posting is fun, This is aimed at Math not dsj

[Flea The Magician]

Raya and NDMath seem fine

VOTE: Flea The Magic

omgus much.

Why not vote within the pool of 4 that contains 2 scum?

[Flea The Magician]

Players	comments
Flea The Magician	Will not be reading faer. Resolved through NAR or mechanics.

Eh, a little of both. BUT ONLY IF I LIKE YOU. >:(

[Flea The Magician]

I just PM'd the mod and activated my

census taker

There is currently two scum on Korina's wagon

Discuss

Votes at this time were Korina, Magnus, Pooks and Raya.

I like Raya, I can eat town pooks - as much as I hate doing it (bear hearts are weirdly filled with stuffing?), Honestly I'm a cat person and we need to get of the terminator because we all know he'll be back. I also get the worst vibes of the 4 from magnus.

[Flea The Magician]

I also get the worst vibes of the 4 from magnus

This is the face of madness

I have a cute face of madness though

I will only join your cult if we worship the great old ones

Even then, I'd probably rather just worship them on my own time. They don't seem like sticklers for organized religion.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

[Flea The Magician]

Huh, just reread what I've actually posted in this game so far...

how the tuna sammich did unwnd get that kinda feel for me on that little information o.o

[Flea The Magician]

In some vaguely serious shitposting...

Expand on your read on me dsj. I know why koba is reading me as they are, I wanna know why you're reading me as you are

o7

I don't remember reading you

O5 COUNCIL LIMITED MESSAGING SERVICE.

O2 TO o7: Thats because I got a wire crossed, it was math person.

END O5 TRANSMISSION.

[Flea The Magician]

Just gunna say I am solidly against it, but happy to go with it if people decide its good.

[Flea The Magician]

Humour me Koba, are you actually willing to go into deep behaviour analysis to root out fakeclaims?
If you are, then whats your opinion on my behaviour so far?

[Flea The Magician]

Humour me Koba, are you actually willing to go into deep behaviour analysis to root out fakeclaims?
If you are, then whats your opinion on my behaviour so far?

withholding rn
-koba

That's a non-answer if there ever was one. there's two questions in there koba

[Flea The Magician]

We should power lim a lurker that doesn't normally lurk regardless cuz scum here are scared of other scum factions and the rope

Alternatively, scum can actually scumhunt to hide and appear as town in an attempt to find the other factions....

Koba I'm like hella drunk rn (despite not touching a drop)... so I cant trust my usual vibe checks... but you are WAAAY sus rn.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Rebel Radio 106.4FM

[Flea The Magician]

Whats sus about us?
-koba

I'm withholding that rn

[Flea The Magician]

Latin is fuckin amazin, just saying. Google translate does actually suck with it but more because the rules are weird. It's like that unknown rule in English where colour is always the last descriptor in a sentance.

Depending on how your ability works koba surely a smaller pool is better to work with?

Carpe Noctum, et nocte bonum.

[Flea The Magician]

Eugh, don't wanna read all this... don't wanna fall behind...

@MOD V/LA update, pain flare has mostly passed, however health is still unstable. I'm going to try and be fully active, but meds posting is as it does

Spoiler: 22+23

VOTE: hayker flea why do u scumread me btw? U never answered. U have seen me as town quite a few times u should know how i look like there.
-koba

Town you doesn't play the fool, you're like a dog chasing a steak. You lock in, you pull out everything, you don't hide anything.
You're hiding things. This isn't your town game.

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korina is town

spiffy is town, not so sure about spiffeh

Why is korina town?

i know this can be confusing, but town aligned players are the ones that received a town role pm at the start of the game. hope that helps!

Cut it out. This is a non answer, and disproportionate to the question asked in this situation. Now why is korina town to you?
-koba

Honestly fmpov you're not in a place to be calling out non-answers. You've attempted to gain support for a mass claim, and when challenged on how you would process it, actively refused to answer and gave a non-answer.

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I think Korina's jester playing and should be ignored for now, or is trying to gambit us into not voting them.

The point being, we've moved on from that.

I think Korina's jester playing and should be ignored for now, or is trying to gambit us into not voting them.

pretty relatable analysis. got anything else?
-koba

Cook likes playing like a newbie. Cook isn't a newbie. This is cook bowling with the barriers up despite being able to play with the big bois.
Koba knows this.
This is funny as fuck.
If cook flips red, so does rebel, but the other way isn't confirmable.

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this feels like scum koba

if it was town koba, they would've just joined my cult and we would be MYSTIC BEARS REUNITED and shitpost the fk out of this thread

instead they are very agenda-y and have come up with some real dumb reasons to SR me that make 0 sense.

like think about it koba

why t f would scum!Pooky claim a confirmable TPR and try to take thread control on Day 1 of a Large Theme Game that is more or less confirmed multiball?

Do I look like I want to be shot in the face at night ?

Their thought process is maybe only one level deep and I know TOWN KOBA is too big brain for that shit

Our gracious leader speaks the truth. (Emphasis mine)

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It feels like scum!Koba to me too mainly because they aren't making much sense and I know town!Koba makes sense. But 560 felt very genuine and like they want to solve the game. Not that scum!Koba can't make that post though.

560 means nothing without action, and your post is FLOOFY!

Spoiler: 24+25+26+27

town pile:
rebel radio
confident:
dsjstr
unwnd(please have some humility on your read towards me, we can be an effective townblock together)
ndmath(mainly based off bending)

semi confident:
vax(i read them wrong in a recent large game, egregiously. but now i know what to look for so hopefully i can do better)
samantha
magnus
jake
angry birds(their tone in their few posts comes off as "idgaf" and like i find them

gut town

)
bell
toog- mainly

based on claim and them being similar to booneytoonz game.

these players overall I am not interested in eliminating today.

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:
hayker
flea
korina
nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

and my null pile :

guillotina: not enough content really to sort but lean town
raya: were in my scum pile but recent post actually made me reconsider lol
particularly stupid: not sure if just fucking around or just scum. playing anti town tho.
pooky- claims a resolveable PR. i dont exactly buy it. their push on me feels bad too as if they want to only discredit me rather than convince me they are town.

These justifications are worthless, honestly.
There's a pocket attempt being started, gut reads, meta reads, and bullshit reads and even AtE.

Now don't get me wrong, my memory is hella fuzy rn, but I genuinely don't remember seeing Koba actually push any reads other than pooky. I've challenged the read on me and it's being purposefully withheld. Now Koba knows me as well as I know them, Koba knows I'll obvtown or obvscum at some point and isn't scared to call me out on my shit. This is Koba knowing I can be miseliminated easily.

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o7

so now figure out what my role is, keep in mind that mafia knows that I am not mafia so actually please protect me

The O5 Council disagrees and believes you are a rogue element. The O5 is aware this is a multiball setup and are displeased that you seem to have disregarded this information.
The O5 Council wishes for you to submit yourself to Dr Bright to be his assistant for the next 168 hours. You are not permitted to don SCP-963 no matter his insistence.

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TODAY IS MONDAY, I AM NO LONGER V/LA AND SO I CAN FREELY VOTE; HOWEVER, I AM GOING TO SLEEP BECAUSE I SHALL BE MOVING INTO A CLOSET TOMORROW AND DOING A LOT OF THINGS AROUND THE APARTMENT, SO I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO READ THE THREAD UNTIL TUESDAY. I SHALL TRY TO CATCH UP HOWEVER.

CURRENT OPINION IS SPECIFICALLY DK IS SCUM. THE REST OF THE HYDRA IS NULL.
VAX IS SCUM.
BELL IS TOWN.
D.P. IS TOWN.
P.S. IS TOWN.
POOKY IS TOWN.
MAGNUS IS TOWN.
JAKE IS TOWN.
EVERYONE ELSE I FORGOT ABOUT OR DON’T KNOW.

I SHALL FOLLOW D.P. AND VOTE VAX, WHO I DO NOT REMEMBER SEEING.

UNVOTE: KORINA
VOTE: VAX

Trust me, the closet ain't a good place to be.

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can you link a town game?
-koba

Koba you know you can just ask for us to pass you a straw instead of reaching for them, right? :3

Spoiler: 28-

[long boi post]

See I'm normally a cat person, because ya know, independent and evil, but I'm all game for the CULT OF DOG here.

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Hmmmm should I read the whole game now or stick to reading posts I see when I visit the thread?

~Spiffy

Dear god dont reas the whole game. You will have my eternal headache. Id vote pooky if i didnt think jester. Maybe its too obvious though. Actuwlly heck wiith it

UNVOTE:

VOTE: pooky

You know I see the wagon forming as I'm catching up, and I saw the vote count and E-3... I should ISO you first but... I'm happy voting you.

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Vaxkiller, Rebel Radio, Flea, Guillotina, Cook, Jake

Good evening you've reached Flea at Magus castle, humans destroyed by 601AD or your destruction is free, how can I help you today?

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I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE OK TO CLAIM BY MY MASON BUDDY.

MY ROLE IS TOAD (FROM MARIO). I AM A POST RESTRICTED SURVIVOR. MY POST RESTRICTION IS I MUST SPEAK IN ALL CAPS. IT DOESN'T SAY WHAT HAPPENS IF I FAIL THIS POST RESTRICTION, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT.

I ALSO HAVE A MASON BUDDY, WHICH IS WHY I CANNOT BE CULTED. MY MASON BUDDY—WHO I SHALL LEAVE UNNAMED UNLESS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHO THEY ARE—IS GUARANTEED TO NOT BE MAFIA. I PERSONALLY AM OPTING TO BELIEVE THEY ARE TOWN BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS SO FAR. THEY HAVE KNOWN I AM A SURVIVOR THIS ENTIRE TIME.

I HAVE NO ALLEGIENCE TO ANYONE, NOR WILL I PLEDGE ANY, EVEN THOUGH I'D LOVE TO CULTSIDE THE FUCK OUT OF THIS GAME, BECAUSE 1) I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A CULT IN THIS GAME AND 2) EVEN IF THERE IS A CULT IN THIS GAME, I WANT THE GAME TO END AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THERE ARE LESS CHANCES FOR ME TO DIE.

DO NOTE AS WELL, I WILL HAMMER ANYONE WHO IS AT E-1, REGARDLESS OF IF THEY HAVE CLAIMED OR NOT. I AM A NEUTRAL SURVIVOR. I JUST WANT THE GAME TO END AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THERE ARE AS FEW CHANCES FOR ME TO DIE. ADDITIONALLY, I WILL JUST CONTINUE SHITPOSTING THIS ENTIRE GAME TO TRY TO NOT MAKE MYSELF A TARGET.

You know something, I have no beef at all with this. They're open and clear about their shenanigans and their plan. They've admitted they're a risk and until M/ELO they're chill.

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I LITERALLY QUOTE POSTED IT.

huh? Isnt that illegal? or are you talking about the post from the grand idea thread?

Vaxxy babe why am I getting bad vibes from you?

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Hayker

That's E-2, given our survivor has claimed full intent across all wagons, I'll be looking at any E-1 votes with great interest.

[Flea The Magician]

Hayker, you complain this game is full of crap yet you've made less than 1% of the posts here.
Try contributing.

[Flea The Magician]

That... thats an interesting series of votes



pedit, happy taking out a lurker slot, guill will reveal themselves later though, like me if they'e scum they obvscum

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone else thinking Koba should justify their reads before asking for everyone elses.

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone else thinking Koba should justify their reads before asking for everyone elses.

how about you stop trying to stifle conversation because this doesnt help.
if you want me to answer questions about my reads u should try being direct with me
-koba

I am nothing but direct with you koba, I've too much respect for your game and your style to play ring-around-a-rosie with you.
You're currently my favoured elimination. You're asking lots of questions but giving no answers to what people ask of you. You're info farming.

It'd be great to have a summary of notable events cause reading 20+ pages tomorrow is gonna be hell

korina claimed 3p survivor mason (Toad from mario)

that's it

That's it? 34 pages and that's the notable event?

Why is Hayker a wagon?

Read the ISO, it's 7 posts.

[Flea The Magician]

Humour me Koba, are you actually willing to go into deep behaviour analysis to root out fakeclaims?
If you are, then whats your opinion on my behaviour so far?

withholding rn
-koba

Both withholding!

You're making this a little easy on me koba.

[Flea The Magician]

Scum know their roles. They have no clue what powers are available to town. You're pushing massclaim for bad reasons, you're not willing to follow up on questioning and you're still farming information.

screw it, 10 days left? VOTE: Radio Rebel C[_]

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: HAYKER

Well I'm actually 100% confident in Korina's position now :3

Guillotina... Why are you so weird? Like seriously... Get the the real wagon which has some meat on the bones and vote Rebel Radio.

Bet they don't even play good music.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't recall mentioning my town reads much. Nice deflection. I've caught you as scum and as I do every time I am of that belief, I death tunnel.
You're not that familiar with my scum games. But you're familiar enough with my play to know I'm all over the damn place.

You're a threat to town, and then to me.

You're not disputing anything I'm raising but instead dismissing it as though it's nothing, that's not normal koba play. Normal Koba play is fight like a beast.

[Flea The Magician]

Oh boy, now I ain't in a good mood and this is icing on the cake. Lets do this, my votes locked and not moving.

[Flea The Magician]

Oh boy, now I ain't in a good mood and this is icing on the cake. Lets do this, my votes locked and not moving.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm trying to not be as aggressive as I used to be in games - this is a new playstyle I'm trying. Regardless no matter how smart you think you are, you're not going to catch me based on my personality because I play the same between alignments in that regard. I don't remember you ever catching me as scum as I don't think I have rolled scum against you.

Our first game. You repped out for whatever reason. You pinged me and your replacement solidified it.

You're just cementing my belief that you are uninterested in trying to sort me and are keen on discrediting me / painting me as scum.

You are sorted. Show me where and how I am discrediting you.

And I'm not disputing anything you're saying? I'd say that trying to pull more reasoning out of you is quite the opposite.

Then counter what I'm saying instead of asking for quotes and not responding.

I'm not scum - so you think I'm gonna just nod my head and be like "yup thats correct" instead of tell you you're flat out wrong on your points?

You've told me I'm wrong, you've given me no reason why other than "I'm town"[sic]

I'm trying to get you to elaborate and you're just giving these vague nothings that are NAI for me. Of course I'm going to dismiss your points when they aren't really points against me. Try harder.

I have elaborated, what more do you want for a D1? You're info farming and withholding information.

And I never mentioned you having townreads. I said you don't have many reads at all here - and acknowledged that point was moreso not as relevant.

I counter this with:

Flea, when you're town your reads actually have substance

, which here it's blatant you don't and, similarly to raya, are tunneled in on me and are unable to comment on others(while that specific trait is something you are able to avoid when scum though.)

Emphasis mine.

How about you try engaging me in good faith if you're town? Or are you feeling trapped into tunneling me because you are indeed scum?
-koba

Take your bad faith argument with lubricant and place it firmly where the sun does not shine.
I am genuinely pissed off which this being pulled on me now and people getting a free pass.
Just because my neurodivergant arse doesn't work the same way as other peoples, it doesn't mean it's bad faith. You are not answering my questions, you are not following up when I provide what you ask for.
You saw me with BM in Among Us. You're so familiar with my scum games you know I don't care about breaking tunnels. I am a chaotic being, I play by my rules, I can and will break tunnels. I don't lock in until I say I'm locked in, and guess what, I'm now locked in.

[Flea The Magician]

Humour me Koba, are you actually willing to go into deep behaviour analysis to root out fakeclaims?
If you are, then whats your opinion on my behaviour so far?

withholding rn
-koba

Both withholding!

You're making this a little easy on me koba.

[Flea The Magician]

3rd time I've answered this, for the record.

[Flea The Magician]

Do you think scum!koba unvotes hayker here to keep the day going with me as the 2nd largest wagon(granted not by a lot) - this is just simple occam's razor, I'm actively diffusing a wagon in order to get better reads on everyone because there will be blood likely tonight in the slots that are threats to the various scum factions. So I feel an imperative to get as much info on the table as we can on d1.

-koba

Yes. Because this is a WIFOM Mr Meeseeks Box.

"Look at my behavior! Does scum do this!?"
Yes, for town cred. I can will and do pull this shit where I've dismantled a town wagon D1 as scum because shiggles and towncred.

[Flea The Magician]

That's one thing, and easily explained that I don't want you to adjust your behavior/claim based on what I am saying. I will explain in the future if it does become relevant and we have claims. Anything else?
-koba

Given this is directly relevant to my considerations of your thoughts behind a massclaim, this is relevant now.

Are you willing to do deep behaviour analysis of every player in this game as a result of a massclaim happening, which not only gives scum full setup information and a target list, but has zero pro-town benefits aside from finding 1 scum.

[Flea The Magician]

Like if you think that thats some smoking gun that makes me scum, then it must make the whole table scum with that level of standards for scumreading someone.
-koba

It's WIFOM, koba, it doesn't make you scum but it doesn't make you not scum.

Gods above and I'm the one mid BPD episode rn...

[Flea The Magician]

That's one thing, and easily explained that I don't want you to adjust your behavior/claim based on what I am saying. I will explain in the future if it does become relevant and we have claims. Anything else?
-koba

Given this is directly relevant to my considerations of your thoughts behind a massclaim, this is relevant now.

Are you willing to do deep behaviour analysis of every player in this game as a result of a massclaim happening, which not only gives scum full setup information and a target list, but has zero pro-town benefits aside from finding 1 scum.

we aren't massclaiming right now.

drop it.
-koba

Deflection - there was never going to be enough support for a massclaim anyway but the motivations and things said by you in support of it still need to be analysed.

Are you willing to do deep behaviour analysis of every player in this game as a result of a massclaim happening, which not only gives scum full setup information and a target list, but has zero pro-town benefits aside from finding 1 scum.

This stands as you're still withholding read information based on it.

[Flea The Magician]

*facepalmheaddesk*

I know you got banned Koba and I was devastated. I was fully in your pocket in the game prior to that btw. I'm not reading you on the tonal change. I'm reading you on what you're doing now.

You're now avoiding answering a question actively regarding deep behaviour analysis.

You're withholding information on your read on me, and from memory some other reads too when you've been asked.

What about your ability btw? The one where you were judging the size of the pool? Did anything come of that? I'll accept a yes/no answer there.

[Flea The Magician]

Ok - what do you think my intents were behind the massclaim suggestion? My push to get one will only get stronger as the days go on. I thought it might be a good idea. I already have an answer why I asked out loud but pray tell, what did you think my intentions were there?
-koba

Initially I wasn't sure, but I know you're not daft enough to try and break the game that easily and make it easy for scum so I was suspicious the more I considered it. D1 Massclaim is never good and as time passes, sure it gets more viable.
Using deep behaviour analysis though is going to take longer and longer the longer the game goes because no matter who is left you've still got the player list to worry about.

also can I get a reads list on the whole table from you?, even if its just separating players into groups.

-koba

No. I started refusing these on D1 a while ago because I got fed up of being asked for them. My strong reads should be more than clear.

[Flea The Magician]

*facepalmheaddesk*

I know you got banned Koba and I was devastated. I was fully in your pocket in the game prior to that btw. I'm not reading you on the tonal change. I'm reading you on what you're doing now.

You're now avoiding answering a question actively regarding deep behaviour analysis.

You're withholding information on your read on me, and from memory some other reads too when you've been asked.

What about your ability btw? The one where you were judging the size of the pool? Did anything come of that? I'll accept a yes/no answer there.

I guess it'd be bad tact - but I fudged that ability in order to get a reaction.

I'm mostly vanilla and wanted to use that as a way to get reads off the situation.

-koba

Given the nature of this game, "mostly vanilla" could be used to describe a lot of things here.
Fair on the claim, I know you're someone to pull that stuff and I trust you have appropriate information from that.

[Flea The Magician]

Ok - what do you think my intents were behind the massclaim suggestion? My push to get one will only get stronger as the days go on. I thought it might be a good idea. I already have an answer why I asked out loud but pray tell, what did you think my intentions were there?
-koba

Initially I wasn't sure, but I know you're not daft enough to try and break the game that easily and make it easy for scum so I was suspicious the more I considered it. D1 Massclaim is never good and as time passes, sure it gets more viable.
Using deep behaviour analysis though is going to take longer and longer the longer the game goes because no matter who is left you've still got the player list to worry about.

also can I get a reads list on the whole table from you?, even if its just separating players into groups.

-koba

No. I started refusing these on D1 a while ago because I got fed up of being asked for them. My strong reads should be more than clear.

You know that its multiball? Like scum are going to shoot at eachother too.
-koba

"The Enemy of my Enemy is my friend."
Currently we're looking at 14/3/3/1 potentially. D1 neither scumteam would want to shoot the other IMO as even 14/6 is still pretty harsh and honestly in that position I'd be hunting for the others, but not aiming at them just yet. Once down to 10/3/3/1 then I would believe them to be start thinking about working against each other.

[Flea The Magician]

this is an antitown distraction

I think its a valuable conversation actually, and if I remember correctly, last time you were rushing eliminations, by quickhammering them yourself, you were scum. So you being impatient here is NAGL samantha.
-koba

I actually agree with Koba. Reactions to our headbutting will be useful.

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone else thinking Koba should justify their reads before asking for everyone elses.

how about you stop trying to stifle conversation because this doesnt help.
if you want me to answer questions about my reads u should try being direct with me
-koba

I am nothing but direct with you koba, I've too much respect for your game and your style to play ring-around-a-rosie with you.
You're currently my favoured elimination. You're asking lots of questions but giving no answers to what people ask of you. You're info farming.

It'd be great to have a summary of notable events cause reading 20+ pages tomorrow is gonna be hell

korina claimed 3p survivor mason (Toad from mario)

that's it

That's it? 34 pages and that's the notable event?

Why is Hayker a wagon?

Read the ISO, it's 7 posts.

So being wagoned solely for low post count? Pretty sure considering how fast the wagon went we should be looking at scum in the wagon. Id say likely at least 2-3

I can't speak for the voters on there, but your 7 post iso was massively unimpressive. Like I'm known for floofing in posts but yours is literally just nothing.

[Flea The Magician]

ok thats cool. if town wants to gamethrow by voting me, whos claiming town, over a player who has claimed notTown, I will take the exit out of the game bc that's just being bad at the game at that point.

like I said, survivors are just flexible traitors effectively when they claim like this. you're useless to town. you're not gonna help us and once 1 scum faction can have majority alongside you, you will turn on us right away, assuming your claim is legitimate.

and thats the best case scenario here for you. worse cases have you as a hostile 3rd.

-koba

Koba... koba... just... koba....

cool.

if its not in the grand idea thread im eliminating u 100%.
-koba

OK this proves to me you're half arsing this at best... and not reading anything -.-;

Why is Korina posting in CAPS all the time?

*sighs*

ur never gonna be helping town solve, ur gonna just be kept alive cuz like i said, survivors are just flexible traitors and suboptimal kills for scum factions. ur a detriment to town win con and have to go.
-koba

Not exactly true. I've seen survivors that have roles that help them town side.

they inherently do not care about winning with town. there are 7 guaranteed anti town roles in this setup. there is no guarantee that their role is even real here. we can safely remove them from the game and be in a decent spot
-koba

no, there are not. This is bad koba...

Ok according to these sample role pms. There are only two factions?

If there were 3ps, wouldn't a sample role pm listed for them too? Maybe Hayker is not a Jester after all.

Nop.

[Flea The Magician]

thread not locked .............. Wot

Yeah I was wonder... continuing to read up...

[Flea The Magician]

There's some bullshit happening....

[Flea The Magician]

Im unsyre how much im allowd fto say about my pm. It lusted serial killer as a possible alignment as well. Well have fun not advancing town win con guys. I did lie about my alignmebt but wow you guys are execution heavy. I am not affiliated with any groups

HAH you're a 3rd party JOATish! awesome :3

So 14/4/1/1?

[Flea The Magician]

There's some bullshit happening....

Why wouldnt you want to talk??????

I do, I just get stupid sus when there's an enforced twilight.

[Flea The Magician]

flea u still think im scum motivated here?
-koba

yup

[Flea The Magician]

Probably not, twilights that weird ass phase where NOTHING HAPPENS and we wait for the mod to lock the thread.

If I was, you'd already be gone.

[Flea The Magician]

You forgot koba, I'm shit at reading crumbs.

I'd still shoot you, because thats the power of a vig

[Flea The Magician]

You forgot koba, I'm shit at reading crumbs.

I'd still shoot you, because thats the power of a vig

we actually already hardclaimed the role! thats the beauty of it.
-koba

Hey, hey koba!
Quote it for me.

[Flea The Magician]

Prodded, again.

I'm slightly curious about the quiet slots. They're piquing my interest.

Otherwise, question for all currently attending:

1. How do you think this flips?

2. Is this a PR?

3. If it flips scum, how does that change your reads?

Good to know you're curious on your own slot cookie, I forgot you were even here

[Flea The Magician]

You forgot koba, I'm shit at reading crumbs.

I'd still shoot you, because thats the power of a vig

we actually already hardclaimed the role! thats the beauty of it.
-koba

Hey, hey koba!
Quote it for me.

i will on d2.
if we are alive
-koba

That I can see so far, you're a blank dayvig mimic cult leader.

[Flea The Magician]

I say we all just ignore Koba for now, honestly.

I'm curious to see what alignments were offered to our 3P Joat.

Also, you can't kill whats already dead.

[Flea The Magician]

I say we all just ignore Koba for now, honestly.

I'm curious to see what alignments were offered to our 3P Joat.

Also, you can't kill whats already dead.

[Flea The Magician]

Rayquaza airlocks and even then groudon would make land.


Also I wanna point out Mew, #151 contains the DNA of ALL pokémon.
Mewtwo is the child of mew.
By facing all pokémon technically you're facing them all 3 times over.

[Flea The Magician]

"all of them"

So from what I understand, you've been offered every single role and alignment available ever?

Why not pick town? or Cult? Or something fun?

[Flea The Magician]

Full disclosure I haven't looked at the GIM thread and I've no intention too.

And I agree with pooks, especially as there's no twilight prods

[Flea The Magician]

im not sure how this works when multiball is a thing

I'm betting the game is one mafia team and then a third party or two.

21 players, 14 are town aligned, 1 claimed and as far as I'm bothered, 1 confirmed 3rd party.

14/5/1/1 is where I'm at, but I wouldn't be surprised to find its 14/3/1/1/1/1 at this point, but, I think 14/3/2/1/1 seems very whiffy.

On break for lunch.

@Rebel: I'm sort of scum reading Toog.

Flea's town.
Pooky is misrepping me because I've celebrated twice pushing at 3p. Because it's better than outting a PR. But I'm not going to lose sight of the fact we don't win until the anti-town factions are dead.
That's not virtue signalling. That's just pointing out the basics and encouraging people not to get too focused on the 3p survivor claims.

People should probably be asking Hayet questions such as whether he could have joined a faction that didn't exist etc.

As for reads for Rebel, it's D1, I got lucky and voted 3P twice, my reads are usually pretty garbage. I'm not going to get into an ethics discussion about how I want to play or approach a bastard game in a way respectful to the mod. But a huge reads list of conjecture and guessing is too much for me.
If I die, whatever!

The understanding is they would die if they chose a non existent faction? I recall seeing that somewhere.

[Flea The Magician]

@Mod: Off V/LA, still not well but at this point I can't really say I'm LA.

[Flea The Magician]

The question then is which mind fragment took which part of my brain where?

Cookie give me a spicy take? You've not really caused much of a stir in here and I want to evaluate you better.

[Flea The Magician]

The question then is which mind fragment took which part of my brain where?.

Hmm. What is currently out of whack for you?

My mental health is not a discussion for this game What information I'm happy disclosing in in relevant discussion threads and on my wiki page

Or perhaps it's prioritizing, if you've got a roleblocker who can stay on the not town and you know that you can quickhammer the not town the next day and draw tells based on who jumps on.

Scummy^^^

Being scummy is setting your priorities straight.

If someone is confirmed to be non-town, but a possible town is scummy, we are gonna axe the scummy player because they are anti-town

scummy ^^^^

It's easy to throw shit on others when you have a constant diarrhea of bad ideas.

*Starts digging in the picnic basket for the aloe because DAAAAAAAAAAMN*

[Flea The Magician]

Downside for me, I do it wrong and something comes up to meet me and KO me...

[Flea The Magician]

While I am a metal head at heart, there's something about worshipping the old deities in a dead and forgotten language in music that's freaking awesome...

[Flea The Magician]

The question then is which mind fragment took which part of my brain where?

Cookie give me a spicy take? You've not really caused much of a stir in here and I want to evaluate you better.

Spicy Takes (With A Bit Of Cinnamon Baked In)

Setup speculation –it's a multiball game with

14

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2

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2

/

2

/

1

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Samatha97 is odd.

Pooky is being very eccentric and that's either power playing or it's straight up openly being cult. Which is which? I don't know.

OK going back to this, assuming this is 3 scum teams?

What's ya thinking for this

[Flea The Magician]

That's 4 scum teams, actually.

Maf/Alt. Maf, WW, Alien, and Cult

Noted you felt the need to input here

Am I allowed to V/LA for 3 days in this game only?

Also theres no twilight prods, TL confirmed that in thread iirc.

[Flea The Magician]

See now those colours look mega crappy to me rn and I have no clue about colour coding of things.

I don't see pooky as being ballsy enough to actively claim and recruit in thread like that, also give that there are already several members I genuinely can't see that as a real claim rm.

[Flea The Magician]

(don't get me wrong, the bear has the orbs, they are magical after all. But that would be a remarkable play imo)

[Flea The Magician]

May i please join your cult?

yea fk it why not


Pooky Cult Roster List 1.5:

Cult Leader: Pooky
High Priest: Korina
Court Magician: Flea
Android Killa: Magnus
Head Chef: Cook
Dead Dude: Hayker

Korina can't be culted and is mightily miffed about that.
I've not been informed if I have been culted.
Guessing you clearly haven't.
Heyker is ded
leaving Magnus.

Need I say anything else?

[Flea The Magician]

recruit : Koba

Breakin mah heart pooks

*places Cookie in the bin, lights it on fire and begins chanting "verus cultus sint in Linux gloria" in an attempt to remove the demon from them.*

[Flea The Magician]

Given iOS is BSD with the DarwinDE/WM....

you can literally get mac for free

[Flea The Magician]

There will be no love for Apple. I will not hate... actively. But I will not love Apple.

[Flea The Magician]

...

*sips tea nervously*

*totally isn't currently using Windows...*

I do hate windows with a passion though, its just rubbish -.-; Win10 is supposedly a rolling release and getting more and more and more bloated as time goes on, it tries forcing the bloody stupid Cortana on you at every turn... Give me ArchLinux any day -.-;

[Flea The Magician]

I'd point at my remote debian box that has a butt-ton of game servers on it for me and friends.... but then you'd be connecting to my servers

[Flea The Magician]

Because I don't want my box bombarding with join requests and port scans more than it already does

[Flea The Magician]

I'm hard scumreading any scum here

Generic rebuttal.

my bad

recruit: hellbooks

I love you more than Koba anyway

Koba stinks and freezes and I have to CTRL+ALT+DELETE them all the time

In fairness WinXP was one of the better ones. Then again, over 98SE anything was an improvement. I miss screwing with AUTOEXEC.BAT in school though... and LOGOW.SYS

[Flea The Magician]

I am reconsidering my position as court magician xD

[Flea The Magician]

There's a role on the Grand Idea thread that wins when it gets 10 people to accept, and then kills the entire cult including itself. I accepted my fate long ago.

I encourage people to join the cult, for out of game reasons that I don't really wanna get into. My illogical stance is that I don't join religions or cults for any reason unless I buy into them.

.... please don't get me started. I have some rather strong views that may or may not be influenced by the sheer amount of hate and "salvation!" I have received...

[Flea The Magician]

Actually I can't remember actively accepting being part of this but just kinda going along with it...

I officially accept xD

[Flea The Magician]

Mostly just talking shit at each other Raya, but of setup spec and there's a slim chance pooky is about to take out half the player list.

[Flea The Magician]

Bah I need to check the GIM thread myself now for modifiers... Didn't wanna do that but apparently it's a must...

Stupid complusion...

Ok multiball is any freaking alignment neutral...

[Flea The Magician]

Oh I'm off V/la. I got the silly meds for pain so I'm unlikely to be missing

[Flea The Magician]

yeah ok I'm good. ¬_¬ was worried some other BS was happening.

VOTE: unwnd for the bad claim

[Flea The Magician]

WhAt aBoUt iF I Do tHiS InStEaD? tHiS BeTtEr fOr yOu uNwNd

[Flea The Magician]

That seems.... unproductive...

[Flea The Magician]

Like if you got a town result why claim instantly? doesn't make sense to me :/

[Flea The Magician]

I mean, I'm getting serious cult/3p vibes from PS, ngl

[Flea The Magician]

*makes spooky cult hand signs*

ok the multiball is definitly 3p Sadly I'm already in the Cult of Pooky

[Flea The Magician]

wait you WANT to be roleblocked? o.o

[Flea The Magician]

Hm... shoulda gone with my gut. blegh.

Why do I never listen to my gut? it has tea, it can read fortunes...

[Flea The Magician]

Is there any reason to talk about how we went from 14 town to 11 with three town killed at night and Korina supposedly getting turned into a town.

Seems like a lot of speculation that would be required unless I'm missing something.

This is a good point though, and ngl I missed that.

14-3(=11)+1=12...

Unless someones genuinely been culted, at which point I can imagine Korina losing their mind entirely :3

[Flea The Magician]

Korina are you a town-aligned survivor now? Or just VT with post restriction?

[Flea The Magician]

Makes sense to me Korina, you gotta question the numbers though :/

[Flea The Magician]

Makes sense to me Korina, you gotta question the numbers though :/

I think Korina is telling the truth. I'm sure there are plenty of roles that can affect alignment so it wouldn't be a surprise if someone was changed to scum as well.

oh 100%, like the frustrations seem real to me.

Why are we on jake again?

[Flea The Magician]

I assume you have a point to this Guill?

[Flea The Magician]

Welp, better give guillotina a quote board to use.

I SR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I TR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want to hear more from:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want reads on
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina
from
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is a liar:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is Telling the truth:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Needs to explain wtaf they're doing and sooner rather than later:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Why aren't they dead yet?
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

[Flea The Magician]

Unless you're only allowed the images, then unlucky lol

[Flea The Magician]

Sounds like you've already got one Akala.

And it's not spam, it's potentially providing guillotina a way to communicate if they're allowed to snip quotes.

Is there an issue with that?

[Flea The Magician]

Welp, better give guillotina a quote board to use.

Spoiler:

I SR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I TR:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want to hear more from:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

I want reads on
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina
from
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is a liar:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Is Telling the truth:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Needs to explain wtaf they're doing and sooner rather than later:
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Why aren't they dead yet?
Nono, Raya36, Jake The Wolfie, Vaxkiller, Flea The Magician, Toogeloo, Guillotina, Bell, dsjstr, Angry Birds, NDMath, PookyTheMagicalBear, Particularly Stupid, Magnus V, unwnd, Disney Princesses, Korina

Well I tried being nice

[Flea The Magician]

...Korina really isn't making sense to me, ngl.
He can't be culted, makes a nice big dance about groupscum can't be culted, sam died last night after dropping the visiting korina line...


VOTE: Korina - I smell rotten doggy farts

[Flea The Magician]

oh and we have a missing townie in theory

[Flea The Magician]

Korina, I know you did, but we've a missing person, and as pointed our previousy...
We started yesterday with 14 town. we started today with 11 town, 3 died.

So theres a discrepancy.

[Flea The Magician]

I mean, I wouldnt pic this role...

acutally... I probably would...

[Flea The Magician]

I think guils town here, at least at the moment.

Scumclaim, guills a bear attacking the village.

[Flea The Magician]

*pets the lionbearthing*

7 of 8.5 required...

The amount of 3p in this game is nuts...

jakey you should claim

[Flea The Magician]

if that was the case, there would be more then methinks.

[Flea The Magician]

*pets the lionbearthing*

7 of 8.5 required...

The amount

of 3p in this game is nuts...

jakey you should claim

At this point, I'm calling 14/2/1/1/1/1/1

[Flea The Magician]

scum are probably wolfing in town at this point as we seem to be 3p hunting.

[Flea The Magician]

Damn this got deep o.o

I'm sticking to my korina vote btw.
Convince me otherwise.

*sips tea*

[Flea The Magician]

Thats part of the problem though, like I'm sitting on 14/2/1/1/1/1/1 and right now I'm thinking Korina is a smart doggo and is one of the 2.

Like until I have legit reason as to why the numbers are wrong, thats where I'm staying.

Liking the spicyness form PS.

[Flea The Magician]

ngl I'd love to get culted right now, Im not interested in culting as an actual mechanic in this game, and the numbers indicate thats legitimate currently.

I'm worried about about the 2 maf getting a free ride as we flail and panic around the various 3P claims and distractions.

For me today its Unwnd for the cock up, or korinas potential fakeclaim. Those are the only two I'm willing to vote rn and honestly I'd be willing to put them as the mafSolve

[Flea The Magician]

and for the most of D1 in this game I wasn't me in the slightest, and that is literal. I was on sitewide V/LA as a result of my health being absolutely shite (fibro flare and poisoning! whoo!) and ngl I'm still high on surgical level painkillers. (so glad we got those again, and the non addictive ones too )

Like if youre wanting to engage with me now, go for it.

[Flea The Magician]

Those are the only two I'm willing to vote rn and honestly I'd be willing to put them as the mafSolve

with statements this lacking in critical thought you're about to blow a hole in my townread on you

Put it back in context then because thats about as much critical thought as I get lol

[Flea The Magician]

OK things are happening that are starting to irritate me, so I'm going to say this loud and clear.

MY CONCERN CURRENTLY IS LOOKING FOR THE SCUMTEAM, NOT THE CULT, NOT THE 3PS - ANYONE CLAIMING I AM DOING OTHERWISE IS OPENLY AND DELIBERATLY IGNORE MY WORDS AND FRANKLY IGNORING MY SLOT. ANYONE PUSHING THIS VIEW ON MY SLOT WHILE I HAVE OPENLY BEEN SAYING NEEDS, NEEDS FREAKING INVESTIGATING.

You wanna shit fling, then lets do this. I got a crate of monster, some epic painkillers and a long sleepless night ahead of me.

[Flea The Magician]

D1 > 14 town players.
N1 > 3 town deaths
D2 > 11 town players.

Kindly explain to me where the cult has recruited.

Korina in his first post, could not be culted. Korina has stated groupscum cannot be culted.

NKA means jack shit because we all know theres some weird ass roles in this game, and I've already made my move.


My threat assessment is using the information given to me that is confirmed.

Hey if we're worried about cults, why aren;t we worried about arsonists?

[Flea The Magician]

Korina's flip gives us some damn good information at this point.

If he flips town, then yes theres a cult, night kill actions should be aimed appropriately.
If he flips scum, oh fuck Flea makes another good call, making a habit of this.
If he flips ANYTHING ELSE, well shit, fun times ahead.

What is vital, is bell lives tonight.

[Flea The Magician]

OK things are happening that are starting to irritate me, so I'm going to say this loud and clear.

MY CONCERN CURRENTLY IS LOOKING FOR THE SCUMTEAM, NOT THE CULT, NOT THE 3PS - ANYONE CLAIMING I AM DOING OTHERWISE IS OPENLY AND DELIBERATLY IGNORE MY WORDS AND FRANKLY IGNORING MY SLOT. ANYONE PUSHING THIS VIEW ON MY SLOT WHILE I HAVE OPENLY BEEN SAYING NEEDS, NEEDS FREAKING INVESTIGATING.

You wanna shit fling, then lets do this. I got a crate of monster, some epic painkillers and a long sleepless night ahead of me.

Flea, do you ever roll scum? What's it like when you are

Honest question

Rolled it twice, wanna meta, look on the wiki page.

Other than that, honestly just speedlim me if you;re not happy with me at this point. Just make sure bell lives.

[Flea The Magician]

OK Korina openly stated they couldn't be culted, I do believe sam attempted to town them, but on the same side, I don't believe Korina has accurately claimed their role.

Other than that, present a situation to me where the numbers add up.

[Flea The Magician]

OK things are happening that are starting to irritate me, so I'm going to say this loud and clear.

MY CONCERN CURRENTLY IS LOOKING FOR THE SCUMTEAM, NOT THE CULT, NOT THE 3PS - ANYONE CLAIMING I AM DOING OTHERWISE IS OPENLY AND DELIBERATLY IGNORE MY WORDS AND FRANKLY IGNORING MY SLOT. ANYONE PUSHING THIS VIEW ON MY SLOT WHILE I HAVE OPENLY BEEN SAYING NEEDS, NEEDS FREAKING INVESTIGATING.

You wanna shit fling, then lets do this. I got a crate of monster, some epic painkillers and a long sleepless night ahead of me.

Flea, do you ever roll scum? What's it like when you are

Honest question

Come back when you're doing this with at least 4 people trying to piece things together in your head, have autism, adhd, fibromyalgia and a broken hand. I'm scum by default because of how I work, I'm currently trying to not fall into my 3rd BPD episode of the week too having already incurred the wrath of the local law enforcement on my first one.

[Flea The Magician]

I present my shitlist:

Yeah, yeah, just cast me as the bird on the right. And I wonder why I rarely get repeat-hydra-plays.

I'm ignoring the fucking lion pictures. Sorry you seem to have an actual post restriction, Guillotina, but I'm not playing charades with a cartoon. If it's a multi-day thing, I'll let my pictures-half interpret for me tomorrow. In the meantime, I'm kind of assuming anyone who goes to that much effort to post despite digging through shit to do so really wants to participate, so have a town participation trophy.

@ PS Re: a Bell counterclaim (maybe I was unclear and you thought I was looking for unwnd to solicit a counterclaim?): he claimed something that had a tangible in-thread effect. If unwnd was really gung-ho on Bell being guilty, why not expect someone to cc his Town Counter claim? And no, believe me, I don't expect people to do the fucking research these days, it would seem, but if I had an investigative role that I was ready to effectively claim, I'd think I'd put at least cursory effort into knowing what the ramifications were.

And yes, unwnd, you got attention. You got Bell to claim. My issue is with what you did in the process and after. It just doesn't make sense coming from a decent player as town.

Players I'm not interested in eliminating today post-catch-up:
Guillotina--see above
Disney Princesses--posting readable stuff and also wants unwnd blood, solidarity, etc.
Bell--role claim
NDMath--claim and night action request
Particularly Stupid--readable thread content
Jake the Wolfie--yikes, but eh. Low information elimination. For everyone. Except maybe the mod if he didn't lose his notes.

dsjstr is looking townier to me.

I literally fucking brought up the 14-3+1=11???

Why is it when Bell talks about it he's town

feels like town who thought they had a toehold and got overlooked.

Raya36 overall feels like she's gamesolving.

Same question to Disney Princess, Unwnd, Angry Birds, Pooky.

I'm clearly not getting my unwnd elim, fine, whatever. He and Korina can be Day Three resolves (yes, I'm assuming Korina is town now, but I'm also assuming the updated count will be informative enough).

Magnus V is slipping hard--started out strong, but just disappeared today. Nono was never a town read for me in particular, and there are little pings in posts there. Vaxkiller is almost on the verge of engaging. Syryana says he's slow to be useful as any alignment (and I'm rephrasing that nicely) so eh. I don't trust Pooky at all, and rereading his ISO doesn't have any bite to it. Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.

--PA

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.

--PA

I'd be ok with this. I don't think Flea is cult since focusing on the cult in thread wouldn't be a good move but I could see faer as scum hunting for the cult.

I also forgot about Magnus until your post. I'd like to hear from him again.

Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.--PA

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

In my ISO there are 31 results of "cult",
9 of them are after people presenting their arses for me to kick, (22)
10 are in quotes (12)
1 is in Latin (11)
4 are clearly taking the piss (7)
6 of these are actual considerations and are pretty much always in pairs. (1)
The last one was aimed at the alignment picker.

This is why Flea don't do serious things.

-A+D/M/R

[Flea The Magician]

I don't think you're scum here, that's why I asked

You don't think I'm town either though

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Pooky

Well I'm in your cult Sorry dear leader++++++++

[Flea The Magician]

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[Flea The Magician]

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[Flea The Magician]

... fuk it I'm out for the night, I'm high, I'm stressed and I'm still fucking hurting. Like there is no reason at all for that to have done that?!

[Flea The Magician]

@MOD: Sorry about those weird ass posts, for game sake are you able to delete them and just confirm they're weird spammy shite in case people get pissy?

[Flea The Magician]

still can;t sleep, still angry, pain meds are failing.

bold of you to assume my memory is functioning much.

lets see, mason partner hasn;t claimed, this is one of those games where frankly I ain't, right now I want either additional information to work with, or someone in my PoE gone. That so far encompasses Guillotina, Angry Birds, Raya Unwnd and Korina.

Korina gives information.
Guilotina's just weird, even with the post restriction, angry birds vote on me is BS and I;ve not been reading them well for a whole, Raya I except more than a blind sheep from a wolf, Unwnd's claim is dodgier than my hand rn.

UNVOTE:
But hey what does my sour ass know. #4amSaltPosting

[Flea The Magician]

ebwop

lets see, mason partner hasn;t claimed, this is one of those games where frankly I ain't trusting many claims - given theres ways to mess with vote counts and vig shots going off, right now I want either additional information to work with, or someone in my PoE gone. That so far encompasses Guillotina, Angry Birds, Raya Unwnd and Korina.

[Flea The Magician]

Guilotina's just weird

im insulted

Am I wrong? At one point you're happy to sheep me onto Korina, then in a blink you're on me. Like I get you have a restriction, and ngl I'm hella sus about it but you've shown willingness and ability to articulate what you're feeling and thinking quite happily.

[Flea The Magician]

The ultimate null read

[Flea The Magician]

Eh, probably not.

Honestly, this feels like its stagnating a bit to me, maybe its because once again the plot has left the building.

There's nothing spicy, nothing being pushed, and currently experience tells me if I try and get spicier I'm getting ignored and lim'd anyway.

[Flea The Magician]

My dilemma is while I'd done my best, do I become Alfred or Bruce...

[Flea The Magician]

You know I get pulled up on "bad faith" a fucking hell of a lot... pisses me off. I literally just do me and frankly that people are using that to disengage me makes me wonder if it's even worth bothering continuing on this site.

I'm just going to drop this.

Damn this got deep o.o

I'm sticking to my korina vote btw.
Convince me otherwise.

*sips tea*

VOTE: KORINA

Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.--PA

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

and say Guill has made a point of forming full freaking sentences using quotes so this PR on them is being overplayed.
VOTE: Guillotina

[Flea The Magician]

Wasnt a plea, more a commentary. It genuinely pisses me off people keep calling bad faith on me.

I'm leaving it at that for now.

[Flea The Magician]

honestly I think my scumgame is crap, I high effort it too much and burn myself out...
Metas on my wiki, make of it what you will if you want a look.

[Flea The Magician]

Yes G, i'm aware of your "restriction" but you;re not letting it stop you at all, even using words from other games to make your points.

[Flea The Magician]

completed games

idgi

Yes G, i'm aware of your "restriction"

but you;re not letting it stop you at all

, even using words from other games to make your points.

You've proven yourself willing and able to communicate in sentences, you're communicating clearly so the restriction isn't really stopping you, is it.

[Flea The Magician]

The distinction between active and completed games for quotes is important as it could be a breach of site rules.

Guillotina's flailing as they do when caught at this point.

lll
C[_]

Shout me if you need me, G is digging their own hole. Jake is a good option for execution too based on possible SK but I'm still more set on removing the scumteam rn.

[Flea The Magician]

That I can see toogs, you've not exactly pushed much in the way of reads yourself. Theres a sheep vote and thats about it

[Flea The Magician]

You mean the cop claim who screwed up their claim? and someone who can't be culted but can;t explain why we have 3 townie deaths and 3 less town players in game instead of 2 less town players?

I adapt my thoughts as we go. this should be more than obvious now. Especially given as I'm now voting outside of that pool...

[Flea The Magician]

Also I'm willing to take the educated guess we do have SKs in that 3p pool.

[Flea The Magician]

Your votepool is a cop claim and the player who's been recuited to town by Samantha.

On todays episode of "lets make flea look bad!

[Flea The Magician]

Courtesy of unwnd.

[Flea The Magician]

For some reason my computer and mouse decided to spam the submit button, all the posts were the same

Game content should never be redacted, and I'll be entirely honest, our AtE game is *chefs kiss*

[Flea The Magician]

Killkillkillkillkillkillkill

Never known Leenes bell make that noise before o.o

[Flea The Magician]

I'm down for shooting Guill at the moment, honestly.

[Flea The Magician]

Amma get hate but idc.
Please do. I'm convinced they're antitown.

[Flea The Magician]

Hey guillotina, What did I do that was so worthy of literally bouncing up from rock bottom of your reads list?

[Flea The Magician]

If meta is enough for that big a shift then wow.

Catch ya in the morning! Cant beat the sound of bells in the morning

[Flea The Magician]

Alright! That was a nice little challenge reading and casing people with my self-imposed post restriction.

Question. Did I manage to make my points clear with just quoting and that lovely stuffed lion?

OK This boob gets investigated, that was freaking anti-town if true and wifom if not.

[Flea The Magician]

I had scum read flea earlier because they seemed to be trying to pocket me, but then I watched them try to AtE and that lovely OMGUS vote that they always do as town plus a few posts akin to our DBZ game that made me reconsidered my read and put them in my town pile.

Flea's AtE is god level tho

I still feel bad for that pooks that was hella impressive though >:D
For what its worth Guill, I am reflexive in how I do my thing, it's entirely NAI. Look at DBZ and bears, you'll see what I mean.
If you want to see my AtE in action, Silent Star 3 (all links on my wiki page)

Hey govenor, can you move my axe onto Guillotine?

I suspect that's why these damned twilights are so long.

No, because I didn't activate it for today.

[Flea The Magician]

Thats a bit personal aint it?

[Flea The Magician]

Alright! That was a nice little challenge reading and casing people with my self-imposed post restriction.

Question. Did I manage to make my points clear with just quoting and that lovely stuffed lion?

OK This boob gets investigated, that was freaking anti-town if true and wifom if not.

One, I can't be investigated because I'm the investigator and two, if you visit me you are committing a very anti-town action.

I already used what I'd use on you.

[Flea The Magician]

also, "the investigator"?

yeah ok because there cant be multiple... *eyeroll*

[Flea The Magician]

they're probably town sadly -.-;

[Flea The Magician]

We have another claimed investigative. You do know that, right?

[Flea The Magician]

I'm sure theres more than 1 investigative Guill, its a weird ass game with weird ass roles

[Flea The Magician]

In otherwords, this game is totally and intentionally unbalanced.
There was no balancing. We could all have rolled investigatives or cult members if the numbers were weird enough.

Not sure what the rules on Overlap or removal of numbers was.

Maybe I'm just assuming.
Iunno. Shutting up now.

This is kinda my point...

[Flea The Magician]

If it was alignment clearing for you, I'd probably spike myself. I already did my best thing.

[Flea The Magician]

I do not subscribe to your newsletter.
Just bring out the koolaid already.

... Why did I read this as "bring out to kobold already"? Was about the whup some ass but my kobold frens arent on this site they would've said hi if they were lol

@Guillo what happens if the evils have a redirector and redirect a town into you?

What happens if i can sense who redirects players to me?

That is increasingly improbable, along with your next message

The point should be obvious: You should have not outed because the scum will always have the upper hand in information.

So cursed be you for being all high and mighty.

I mean thats just Guill. Dont take any claim he makes seriously

[Flea The Magician]

sooooo VOTE: dj?

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Magnus

We have to figure out the veracity of unwnd's results and there is only one way to do it.

My the way, I detected motion around Bell last night.

Can confirm.


My vote isn't moving. DJ is caught imo.

[Flea The Magician]

Guill you were not informed who visited Bell?

Me confirming the claim wasn't a clue?

[Flea The Magician]

That's a weird ass turn of events if its true o.o

[Flea The Magician]

UNVOTE: DJ

I have no clue if this happened yet, gotta read, got what I wanted from it.

[Flea The Magician]

I detected motion around bell and Flea watched you and me visiting Bell last night.
Why did you lie about visiting Disney? Cause by admitting to accidentally killing a townie you’d get townread. It worked for JacknViggo in another game and it could have worked for you but you got caught.

This is an amazing misinterpretation of what I said.

I confirmed your motion detection.

I never said how.

[Flea The Magician]

I targeted bell last night, that's all I'm saying.

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone else targeting Bell should claim.

[Flea The Magician]

I have something I'd like to get off my chest

So Disney Princess visited me last night...

I am a Town USA and I used my one kill to kill them

DP "visiting" is potentially an easy mistake to make. Depends on the wording of the message DJ got.

um disney princess doesnt visit any1

sooooo VOTE: dj?

This is a shitty ass vote by every possible means. THERES EVEN A ? AT THE END OF IT.

Nobody should be sheeping this. I added context btw...

They would have visited the first person to visit them which was me killing them

Unless there is a second werewolf WHICH THERE ISN'T

The third kill was from me killing DP, that would also make me the werewolf and partners with the guy that died

That said, why would wolf have a PT if not wolves?

They would have visited the first person to visit them which was me killing them

This is what I thought but I did want to make sure before explaining that for you. I'm very suspicious of Flea for jumping on that like that.
VOTE: Flea

Unless there is a second werewolf WHICH THERE ISN'T

I don't get what you mean by this though.

Raya gets townlocked by me btw.

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Unless someone has specific reason otherwise, I'm calling theres no mafia and wolves are the anti-town faction here.
dj is still hella sus, but I got things I wanna prod and poke before we secure a lim.

[Flea The Magician]

Right now I'm waiting for more claims on Bell targets.

[Flea The Magician]

Which is where we need to question dsj about were you visited or informed...dsj?

[Flea The Magician]

There isn't one.

Were you visited, or informed?

[Flea The Magician]

Because it was an important distinction.

[Flea The Magician]

That is a point.. and I knew there was another reason I was on there.

The wording of that role would imply that the kill would fail against town aligned parties.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: dsj

Sod it. claimed kill with much sus claim.

[Flea The Magician]

Got the information I wanted.

[Flea The Magician]

Look after yourself Korina <3

Meanwhile my brain has imploded as an old issue decided it wanted to be yeeted into my face.

The information was reads and reactions.

[Flea The Magician]

Look whos talking, I haven't had the brain power over the last week or two to high effort this to my usual beautifully chaotic standards.

Pulling a meta defence against a player who makes a point using live meta instead of going looking for it is amusing though

Why the fuck would my ADHD ass look through previous games when we've got 100+ pages here I wont read through again? lol

[Flea The Magician]

Like literally, I got some reads and reactions from that shittiest of votes (which I'm honestly surprised more people didn;t jump on me for) and now you're pulling that, beautiful xD

[Flea The Magician]

That's low to try and use your mental health as an excuse

Oh luvvy my MH gets freaking everywhere. Its not an excuse, its a reason.

ADHD - Like hell am I going to read old games.
Autism - Reading old games would be pointless because I'd stuggle to read contexts
BPD - Emotions? TURN THEM TO 11 MWAHAHAHA

And then the real beast I've been fighting against..
Fibromyalgia - You

think

you know what pain is... then this fucker comes alongs and drains the life outta you and the medications KO you.


Noted that you think me using my health as a reason to justify not reading your past games is low though.

You may proceed to the bin Sign your name on the blacklist as you go by. I'm open and honest about my health I declare V/LA when its proper bad. That you accuse me of pulling some BS like that shows how bad a person you are.

[Flea The Magician]

If dsj does flip town I am 100% scumreading Flea

How can you when he is mentally ill, its not his fault

Oh you're getting your own post for this one. Was going to boop you in my catchup but yeah,

1) Self-harm is a serious issue, and now you're mocking it.
2) I am Fae/Faer or They/Them. You do not know me well enough to be permitted to use anything else, given the context I am going to assume this is a microagression.
3) Fuck you and the horse you rode in on

[Flea The Magician]

Magnus voted me without really explaining and then disappeared which is annoying.


On dsj vs flea and guillo
I'm struggling to understand why both flea is so confident and why dsj is ateing so much.
Guillo's posts/logic however are making sense to me now.

I am NEVER confident I'm confident when I case/tunnel someone. Knowing my own AtE game, AtE players NEED to be pressured imo.

my sole mission in this game is to murder whoever the twilight extender person is

I'm going pee myself laughing if the twilight extension stops after I use my last ability.

If dsj does flip town I am 100% scumreading Flea

While legit, and I genuinely won't blame you, I should be able to self-clear ish tomorrow. I'm not the only push on that wagon though and there was some weird ass votes on it.

also wow unwnd o.o

[Flea The Magician]

I dont know, I seriously hope not!

[Flea The Magician]

I'm activating it tonight anyway and we find out tomorrow xD

[Flea The Magician]

Brother

Consider yourself permanently on the blacklist.

[Flea The Magician]

Beautiful <3

Absolutely well played all around

Thanks for hosting TLich <3

[Flea The Magician]

hey guys did we learn our lesson about 3p claims?

That apparently town will ignore them for three days after claiming, despite evidence I'm not 3p

Especially when the scummy players are on board with it and pushing it. lol