Dogs Vs. Cats Mafia | Endgame

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Sometimes I think Chara makes posts that have no purpose but to trigger me

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I guess maybe it's bad to flip Titus cause of the unlikely event we flip all of the cats and she becomes IC? Lol

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I think disagreeing about what to do with setup speccy claims is awkward for reading eachother which is why I am lamenting the world where Titus died very early and we stop thinking about it

Getting misread over my approach to Titus's slot feels pretty par for.course to me (and iirc Chara townread me off everything else)

This feels like a scummy way to respond to the push but I'm only human and have hardclaimed scum this game etc.

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Im kind of confused about whether to push for Titus lim or Pooky Like right now. Head says Titus heart says Pooky?

Could really use some input. Post in the human PT please.

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I think you lim people who aren't town and if they flip the opposite faction from what you hoped it's fine.

VOTE: pooky

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Guys, I also think pooky is scum here but he is dog scum and it is in our interest to eliminate cats.

Wait what?

What is it ?

Well, i think if pooky is scum it's a cat, but aside from that, now that two dogs died we should ideally lim dogs

But even then, i think we should lim a scummy slot regardless of its faction, so your post was just very weird to read

I think highly likely that single scum has a lot more reason to targets enemy scum instead of town thus helping us. It is kind of what I would have done sooooooo, maybe I am projecting though.

I agree. I'm just plenty happy limming people that aren't town. If two people are very scummy to met it would just be a tiebreaker to keep the dog alive.

Also you rolled town this game didn't you

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no no, people born after 2000 don't exist. you can't be 17. i need to lie down.

Me too

Let's both lie down. Send me texts. You're worth the ten cents for everyone I send you back <3

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i mean if we're all going to accept that people should follow their SRs

then all of my fans that are voting me should definitely follow me on this vote

VOTE: Raya

let's go

VOTE: Raya

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even if you're not my fan because I don't always shitpost T_T

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Prodge
Cakez is town

Pooky's probably too good at scum to be dog mafia in this gamestate and I want to lim someone who could be dog or cat ideally

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I've lost the will to catch-up can someone hammer something so I can read overnight?

I feel like whenever I say this in a game I like make eight place in battlegrounds then read the thread and reread it tho

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I suggest we ask one member of cat mafia to claim, then let farkran use his ability on the cat. If the cat survives we can trust the claim and leave farkran alive


Going back over to this plan I recognize some possible problems with it

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I haven't read the whole game

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It's possible the dog mafia is larger than the cat mafia, but town has multiple roles that only harm dog mafia.

This is consistent with flips

That makes me wanna spare farkran

I don't think shea would make a cat v dog game without some interesting difference between the sides

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Farkran why didn't you protect me I feel neglected

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I can say about my role pm picture that I don't find it aesthetically pleasing so it doesn't seem to me like Shea put lot's of TLC into good role pm pictures which makes a picture error more plausible

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VOTE: toadette

i keep thinking about how she reacted to my kind of towncasing her. like, i get being worried that scum is whiteknighting you, but she doesn't actually seem all that worried about that besides as a thing to waffle about. it's just been weird.

Uh oh, if Chara can't figure out I'm town even though I have dollar tree WIM and few reads nobody is gonna be able to

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I will be honest wrt pops - i played town against scum!her twice and scum against town!her once. I cannot associate her to any of my past experience, so i tried to read her in a meta vacuum and i'm leaning scum, but my confidence is really low.

yeah, i am trying not to meta her, but it's like she was suspecting me for not being that suspicious of her as though she's been doing things that one should be suspicious of, and i agree that her plays been strangely undirected but i thought this was more of a trait of town!her.

Your currently one of my strongest townreads but I remember being that part of my progression on you at some point and if you develop some kind of theory based on that phase that's valid.

Just to clarify where I am now

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How aboyt we go back to the alien Cop where aliens dont exist

only if you call me dragonheart

In final fantasy tactics advance, dragonheart was a powerful support ability that would cause the character with that ability to recuperate to 30% how when they reach 0% hp. Only then brave Bangaa class could gain this ability. I see this courage and perseverance in you fenrir

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I forgot to crumb my role so I'll crumb it in this post

I'll copy farkran some to be cute and tell everyone to imagine a black snake

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That's just an abstract relationship though. I'm a real girl

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a smattering

Raya: what don't you like about Isis? it seems you agree about the Alien thing.

This felt very deductive instead of inductive in intention

It was redacted?

i feel like if we start assuming partial reveal then there will only be madness the farther we search.

this felt really uninformed

can I just sheep other people this game???

Cakes please don't be scum i'm not being wrong three times.

this is actually something where I could be getting suckered but it got me.


but the biggest thing is that you have a massive postcount and have achieved it without fluffposting or iioaing

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Thro it at me papa bear

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VOTE: Titus?

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Bleugh

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Hey the daystart pm was labelled night three so I was kind of confused. Hopefully I can read up tonight

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Oh wow Chara was scum and fooled me.

I deserve to lose.
Not that I should let my brain do that I'll play to my wincon and stuff

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My wincon is to establish a utopia for all of the real girls

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Shiro reads very towny to me. Please don't like the slot

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Lim not like

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So we got Dogs, Cats, motherflipping aliens... and SK.

WAT

Also, sorry Titus

I am part of the human faction it's an antitown faction.

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only the alien SK could've known Titus was for reals

I didn't have any prior knowledge of aliens. I'm just good at judging claims.

I think you repped in and that gave you a diff perspective like emotionally. It's mean to dunk on us I think it was a hard ready. Large themes are hard. It's kind of a postgamey thing but idk

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Titus cleared me from being an alien
My play this game is a bit "I wish I had done more" but is it really "we need to override mech incentives to kill this person"

I don't know why you're pretending a subset of players, vaguely one of which might be partner softpushing mafia, softpushed me all game, when Chara is the most prominent person with some kind of progression that included suspicion of my slot without an ultimate cry for blood. You don't get to be lazy when you have an exact flip to work with. Analyze its posts. Was it solving me for dogness or trying to prove I'm not a cat, in a game where that's not even sufficient to keep a partner alive?
I hate that I townread you Cakez. Like it's a really strong gut take and I think it'd take a lot for the polish to wear off and getting frustrated with you right now isn't enough on its own but it seems like an antitown way to decide to make use of this dayphase in a more likely to come from scum way, but not so much more likely to replace my read which means I just have to be upset with you.

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I think SaveTD might be scum

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Chara's progression across dayphases feels maybe like someone who checked if I was a dog and felt a little fascinated about being wrong.

Independent of that someone should check if it crumbed results since before kdowns claimed it would have considered its claim helpful/potentially clearing

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I've historically mostly been pushed as a cat

You are talking about associatives in multiball, whether you like it or not, when you say "toadette has been pushed all game but hasn't died", because you either mean I'm aligned with a softpusher, or there is a kernel of truth to arguments some townies (or opposing scum) keep returning to, and since at least half of what's been said against me that isn't argument by repetition is that I didn't push norwee right that means you're signalboosting associative hunting comrades (or foes)

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I assumed you're getting pushed for the memes kdowns

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Brave heart lion talk to me

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I don't want to kill Anya but have that feeling that Anya is good at mafia and engineered a scenario where Titus died and I know Anya was responsible but I post "I don't want to kill Anya, but have a feeling that Anya is good at mafia and engineered a scenario where Titus died and Anya was responsible but I post "I don't want to kill Anya but have a feeling that Anya is good at mafia and engineered a scenario where Titus died and I know Anya is responsible but I post "I don't want to kill Anya, but have a feeling that Anya is good at mafia and engineered a scenario where Titus died and I know Anya is responsible but I post "I don't want

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Flow trap what is your mafia philosophy

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i'm not sure. i need to reread some of the game but something is pinging me about toadette's posts, not sure if it's just playstyle though. in the meantime it seems like an okay place for my vote.

plus she keeps calling me scum and it's starting to hurt my feelings :<

This is completely unfair from you when you should know my playstyle because you moderated a game I was playing in a mere 153 months ago. You should know this is how I play town. I can't even call you scum for this since it's multiball and all. I am just so disappointed in you

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There's a limit to how towny my posts can be because I am part of a human antitown faction.

Save is giving me inklings he is not in an antitown faction

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I'm not a wolf that would be an animal, I'm not an animal and I'm antitown. I am a real girl

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It's really straightforward anya

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I'm not an alien, not a dog, not a cat, I'm a human

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Why is raya scummy I think i feel pocketed by her

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Hmm

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Could you stop being towny I'm supposed to counterwagon myself

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I like 4857

However I think voyager was alive in no other games so the repout itself is unreadable.
Not opposed to the wagon and would probably be voting it if a user I liked less was coming in

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Oh I'm Isis btw I altslipped on page 13 or sth

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GOD

today was a hell of a day. I'm wiped.

Toadetteheart, what did you want to talk about and why single me out over some of the others who have been scum reading you?

Also, for the pooksheart pushers, why is he scum for "bussing" but not there isnt a batted eye at toadettehearts same assertions?

Idk I just like you
I don't think I even remembered that you were one of the ones wagoning me
I did push Dwlee, a long time ago. And I pushed Titus, Titus felt like a big is it or isn't it all game that distracted me. I expressed suspicion of Anya a post ago but I'm not positive she's scum.
What do you think about Anya? Let's talk about that.
I think she's kind of made things always about Titus all game and like maybe that big picture was designed to make the lim unable to swing towards partners?

I didn't like "I don't own a hat" today. Even though it was very funny

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toad can you elaborate more as to how you are anti town?

Please don't call me toad it makes me feel misgendered

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Thestatusquo tried to give me a town role PM but by the magical power of the crown power up and the beauty deep in my heart I transformed it into a human role PM. The main sense in which I am antitown is that none of the residents of animal town are a Real Girl and I make them all jealous when they see me

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Psyche's wagon composition is terrible and my wagon is low-key townie lol

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Psyche's wagon composition is terrible and my wagon is low-key townie lol

there's two people what are you even talking about

You also sus me and seem townie!

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VOTE: Psyche

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I think Anya might be town but I can't say why because of ongoing games

Would like to kill someone else

STD is ok

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

why is he so likeablleeeeeeeee

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what did the S_S slot used to be?

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that's the only one I'm pretty sure

Incorrect! Titus confirmed I am not an alien! And it's true! Real girls aren't aliens!

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VOTE: Something Smart

Ivyeo used she/her pronouns braveheart

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I think kdowns cleared someone as dog too
Me? Or someone else

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Is Anya a real girl???????

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we just need to have them so high up on the TR list that they shoot each other

yeah I mean this is how multiball works

game tends to stagnate when town realizes how little agency they have compared to scum

tmiing the passive players town VOTE: Something_smart

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Ido not have access to any private topics

. The Real Girls are bonded by a connection more real and genuine than any that Shea could possibly forge using the privileges TBone has granted him

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Very very likely because not only is he a dog cop, a scum cat flipped dog cop iirc, meaning he would be the second scum dog cop, which would suck for dogs. Even if he's scum that'd mean the game must have like 7 dogs to balance how strong that is so maybe we should eliminate cat!kdowns

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Did anyone check Chara's iso for softs when I brought it up

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Chara's iso looks a lot like a Cakez innocent to me? Mentioning him 3 posts in a row, slightly awkwardly.

I'm happy to treat that slot is town until postgame discussion anyway

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S_S HOW COULD YOU NOT USE THAT TO LIE DETECT WHETHER I'M A REAL GIRL?

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S_S we are factionally NKing you for this mismanagement of resources and I will be the one to carry out the kill

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I'm not going to towntell I hardclaimed antitown in my first post smh my head my mushroomcap

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Sometimes I think the entire purpose of Something Smart's entire mafia career is to be orthogonal to mine. Which I recognize would kind of apply symmetrically

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Was there a N3? What day is it? Maybe there's more crumbs to look at

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Oh I remember now why I didn't care about d3 crumbs

They probably wouldn't exist because Chara wouldn't want to cc kdowns

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It's day 4

Did we ever kill Titus? BoJack horseman still doesn't seem like a real role to me

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I'm not sure if Chara would have crumbed its day 2 result. You should definitely look just in case. I'm not going to cause I'm on my phone and I need to go do work. Setting myself up to look bad when it's an innocent on my top scumread or whatever. That would require me to have a scumread tho

VOTE: pooky?

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VOTE: Raya36

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Flow traps progression about Chara's iso is actually very towny independent of whether that's a real crumb

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VOTE: Anya

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Flow traps progression about Chara's iso is actually very towny independent of whether that's a real crumb

Well, I'd say more anti-dog if you're going that route

It's towny that you're perspective slipping about how Chara would be your partner if you were a cat

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Pooky vs Anya vs Raya is probably better

All the y names in this game are antitown, I swear it, or my middle name ain't Shayna

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Cakez if I was scum I would be pushing someone right now

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Lol I wouldn't be able to say it as scum cause I would have someone up at e1

As scum in apocalypse I authored like three of the game's mislims

I know it's not actually the kind of thing a SirCakez needs to hear from me to read me, but I have no idea what is

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VoteCount 4.8

anya [ 4 ]

raya36, toadette, brave heart lion, flea the magician

Something_smart [ 1 ]

shiro,

raya36 [ 2 ]

anya, flow trap

pookythemagicalbear [ 1 ]

save the dragons

toadette [

1

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sircakez

kdowns

Not Voting [ 4 ]

something_smart, Psyche, xofelf, pookythemagicalbear

With 14 alive it takes

8

votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2021-06-03 09:11:31)

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i'm guessing that right now the mafia are going out of their way not to vote together

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Most of toadetteheart interactions feel like they are less trying to make moves and trying to be friendly and not provoke to many players.

Fuck you

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Ok that's supposed to be ironic but I'm worried it will get read earnestly
>_<

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Isisheart is fine. Don't call me toadheart

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how would you expect a town lie detector to respond after being called out as scum the day after he cleared a townie who was about to be executed

I mean, your role means nothing, if you are last scum in a faction, clearing one townie you know you can kill(and who will likely be killed anyway) is good play.

It garners town cred, creates targets fur the opposite faction at the cots 9f what? Stopping one lynch on town!? So what? Town went and derpes killed Anya afterwards.

Scum had a cop ffs, lie detector means nothing to me.

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And I mean look at brave coming in here with probably the worst reads spewed in the game so far.
I love the coincidence that the person most advocating his lynch is also most scum read pike.

I think S_S has like townslipped because he think it is 7v2v2 when it is probably actually 8v1v1v1 because a scum faction wouldn't shoot a cop cleared slot unless it was the latter and psyche was cop cleared.

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I agree scum lie detector could be a role but analyzing ss play I think town

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We have equal amount of flips from both teams

I'm assuming that dog mafia is bigger because cat mafia got a PR and there are way more flipped anti-dog roles than anti-cat roles.

So my guess is 2 dogs and 1 cat left

This is probably wrong. It's possible if the dogs misplay I guess but even the dogs shouldn't shoot Psyche in that state

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VOTE: xofelf
They could be a disappointing flip if Alien but it's better to focus on what seems like nottown and they seem like nottown. Hoping for cat.

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I think S_S has like townslipped because he think it is 7v2v2

Where did I say that? I think it's 7v2v1v1.

I hadn't read that far yet. I think it dampens but doesn't completely erase my point

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how would you expect a town lie detector to respond after being called out as scum the day after he cleared a townie who was about to be executed

I mean, your role means nothing, if you are last scum in a faction, clearing one townie you know you can kill(and who will likely be killed anyway) is good play.

It garners town cred, creates targets fur the opposite faction at the cots 9f what? Stopping one lynch on town!? So what? Town went and derpes killed Anya afterwards.

Scum had a cop ffs, lie detector means nothing to me.

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And I mean look at brave coming in here with probably the worst reads spewed in the game so far.
I love the coincidence that the person most advocating his lynch is also most scum read pike.

I think S_S has like townslipped because he think it is 7v2v2 when it is probably actually 8v1v1v1 because a scum faction wouldn't shoot a cop cleared slot unless it was the latter and psyche was cop cleared.

I don't think we can be certain enough of anything set-up related to count it as a township

This feels like a scumpost

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It feels like it comes from someone with a scum win condition

Like, for a dog if we townbin someone who is a cat for mechanics reasons, the win percentage of the cat is almost zero

For a townie, if we townbin someone for mechanics reasons but that person -could- be scum actually, they could just also be town for different reasons and we still win

I guess town binning a dog is also a loss

My thoughts make no sense huh

I don't know how to explain how it feels like a scumpost

I just swear it feels like a scumpost

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Sometimes I just want to stand in a castle and wait for someone to rescue me you know?

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Pooky I have a number of posts equal to the maximum +point boost of puzzles and dragons. 297. Do you know my alignment?

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VOTE: Raya36

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Pooky is trying to pocket me with mean girls gifs

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Spoiler:

like honestly I read the readslist and I feel this soothing sensation wash over me and like Mommy's telling me that I've been a bad bear and I've disappointed her somehow.

It feels like something from a survivor game where she's convincing you that she's good and you need her approval.

Even her pushback to my pushback feels like she's whacking me for daring to engage with her like that - which like doesn't really make sense to me if she believes I'm scum?

xofelf's not a woman

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Pooky can you do a full readslist? I rarely have interest in them but for some reason I feel like it would help me

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You serious Cakez? You've only seen me play town when you were modding, that doesn't count.

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The only good thing Raya had done this game is somehow be the one aware I am town, but she really hadn't done a lot to convince me that came from outside her role PM, and it's an easy prophecy that she will not stop this push

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No one is townreading Raya. Everyone is just acting mysteriously disinterested in a wagon on her that looks a lot like an alltown wagon, including me torpedoing the only slot in the game willing to let me reach eLo (but I guess I'm a solo cat and that's my strat fucking lul). And yet no one is interested in voting her when she keeps making posts that are just terrible

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Fair and square I have not try harded this game but like, multiball bastard setup. But I tried hard enough to like, vote someone who might flip scum each phase. I don't think you should get this late and think I might flip scum this phase. I don't know why I show up to tell S_S I have no PTs when my activity was plenty low enough to let Psyche answer first if I wanted to. Aside from like. Me having one if the most aggressive scumgames onsite and not pushing any lims in multiball

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I mean multiball is shit

Maybe I should give you all more of a pass.

Maybe four of you are scum

And all just worried the lim swings to your partner.

And just don't care what I flip because you can shoot your other guesses at night

Idk

Multiball is dumb

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Really if I think about it letting my shroomtails down and trying to have the most fun I could this game and show I'm not tense was the most legitimate way to towntell when I know it's a giant meme setup where scumhunting is fundamentally subverted which SS is not at all wrong to bitch about. But everyone is dunking on me for being different from my meta. I haven't played a multiball game since 2017 afaik.

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I don't really know whether xof is town I'm of two minds about their wallpost. It's townier than it isn't imo

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town!Isis will give me strong town vibes almost every time
but not once this game have I had those

Really curious about this what games have we played besides the game you modded

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I had a dream that Toadette skated by to LyLo and was scum

Implying that we'll ever get to lylo with 3 scum factions alive

This is a townslip tho, no?

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We still have a few days to deadline
VOTE: toadette
every time I see one of their posts I get the heebie jeebies
no one really townreads them
they fit as either of the remaining mafias

My associatives with Dwlee aren't very conducive with me being dog. Don't think I interact with Chara the way I did as cat but that's more complex for me to make the case on

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If you're town, please stop trying to convince people that I'm town

You were the addressee, my post meaning was "yeah Cakez is wrong, but the way he's wrong is a townslip right?". Topic of post being nested quote rather than quote

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Unless you were referencing my wagon analysis

Do you think I'm scum ss?

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I'm not sure I care actually

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I probably wouldn't care as much about this lim if Cakez didn't feel like obvtown

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You serious Cakez? You've only seen me play town when you were modding, that doesn't count.

I retract that comment i must have been thinking of someone else

>_>

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{toadette, flow Trap, SirCakez, Shiro}
{Something_Smart, xofelf, PookyTheMagicalBear}
{Flea the Magician, Save the Dragons, BraveHeartLion}
{Raya36}

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I don't want to claim please don't make me claim

It's so dumb to get pushed for
-having fun in a large theme
-sir Cakez confusing me with some other player and not caring I'm not that player
-getting fooled by scum Chara. Chara is a god, I post about how in awe I am of Chara's scumgame even when I'm scum and know it is town like I did in nightmare

Be back in a bit I'm going to sonic

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Objectively I should claim. It's a bitter pill to swallow but looking at the deadline and the tempo of the game. It's the proper thing to do here. Let me look up my crumb. I'm in the mcd drive thru and texting someone too

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Now I'm mad I have a 2 page iso in game I didn't even want to join and people think this is my scum energy level

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I forgot to crumb my role so I'll crumb it in this post

I'll copy farkran some to be cute and tell everyone to imagine a black snake

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https://awbw.amarriner.com/co.php#adder

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To the extent it seems like a kaleidoscope style crumb it's also a reference to the crumb I used in haunted village with Andy for doctor

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I'm having trouble wanting to help instead of squawk at people help Cakez throw FUCK I THOUGHT THAT SOUNDED AWFUL AND SHE STILL SAID MAAM

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Ok i don't really care. Like I don't have any abilities and losing a VT doesn't really affect the crosskill game much

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VOTE: Raya

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Tbh if you're scum you're tossing an NK attempt away by not vying for lim control here.

If you're town I don't think you care

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I'm gonna reread Raya's and xofelf's isos and try to decide which one deserve the Toadette endorsement for crosskill attempts tonight

but also I'm tryna eat fries so

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oh they actually gave me ketchup!

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FB, what sort of allegiance would you say foxes have? Asking for a friend, who is obviously me.

when i rolled scum with xof it kind of felt like they wanted to talk to each person at least once which is a survivor thing, and talking to me in the scum PT "counted" to them. I don't think they were very deliberate or conscious about it. So this is kinda antidog

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No FB, Shea did absolutely say you can't direct quote your PM. I think he even said it twice with some annoyance about having to.

the role PM Shea gave me implies that Adder is the best CO in tier 4 and that Jake's popularity is only the result of uninventive playstyles that rely on early trades as a crutch. I won't tell you how he worded that though.

I'm reading this iso and getting this feeling that xofelf's direct interactions with me ping me but their posting apart from that generally seems consistent with a town xof so maybe if I were free of cognitive biases I wouldn't be interested in their elimination at all?

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oh i guess when i claim i should do flavor and whatever, I got bugs bunny from looneytunes, "snake" was a useful concept for my crumb but doesn't relate to the animal theme of the game (well it does in the sense that adapting Farkran's claim inspired my crumb methodology etc) (wait was Farkran even a snake or was he the mongoose i don't remember lol)

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I got full of french fries and very sleepy but now after nine hours of sleep none of you posted to criticize me for not making it to raya's iso

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I'm taking a shower

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Then I will come play more this is the only game I'm alive in

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https://awbw.amarriner.com/co.php#adder

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!!!!!

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Most importantly though I'm a real girl

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is no lim throwy or like a consideration?

it's possible limming people who haven't gotten opportunity to claim is worse than no limming and allowing NKs to happen (since the NKs aren't strictly negative utility for town) and allowing investigative roles to hopefully happen

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You're not articulating why and you've been pretty devoid of why all game and I'm starting to wonder if it should have been you today but that's not really on the table

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5396 and 5397 are kind of terrible and make me want to flashwagon std
It's probably more efficient to lim the claimed bulletproof and allow a shot?

I'm like minorly sympathetic maybe my bills like bhl deserve to die tags but no such person ever got cases I guess?

Raya could be town, still likely scum, I think

Even if raya's claim is meh

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I composed that post out of order the bottom line looks weird now