Situation Room [Game Over!]

[Solo]

GAMMA EMERALD's probably town for an annoyance-vote on DUSA and then openly admitting it's there because he's annoyed at the gimmick, rather than faking a jabbernut reason

[Solo]

VOTE: YURI

[Solo]

I forgot how stimulating mafia can be, I have so many thoughts running around in my head but putting them into words is a different matter entirely. Voicing the reads without the reasons is probably enough though it would pain my past self

Bell - town
Oka - town

[Solo]

The breaking strategy oka got from me is probably breaking, yes. It’s also incredibly unfun and I’d rather not use it. I also don’t townread oka for suggesting it because I am in the game and the strategy was not hard to find.

I would like to do two slight optimizations: 1 the consensus towniest player is the hammerer. 2 players who are likely to be eliminated be off wagon.

This is the best compromise

A win while having fun is more rewarding than a win where you play sudoku using a chess engine

[Solo]

The lengthy deliberation about optimal strategies and going back and forth between various angles. Scum can setupspec for sure but it's harder to fake the enthusiasm Oka was showing when he was jotting down all of his thoughts on the setup

What do you think?

[Solo]

I forgot how stimulating mafia can be, I have so many thoughts running around in my head but putting them into words is a different matter entirely. Voicing the reads without the reasons is probably enough though it would pain my past self

Bell - town
Oka - town

I have a similar vex. I've adopted the mentality of explaining mostly when an explanation is asked of me, or so, that's a passive style I want to assume more.

As for setup spec, I think limiting the wagons people are on to 2 or 3 maximum is a way to minimize the risk of blocking and parking.
- This forces scum to either block together to a few central hoods or spread out and lose hood power.
- This gives town more breathing room - it almost ensures majority of town across most, if not all of the hoods, even in the event of repeated mislims.

If we truly are having an even-distribution of players among every neighborhood, even if we don't have a 6th hood (assuming everybody votes), most players will only be at 2 neighborhoods with this approach.

But this is my shot at the mech discussion, and likely only. I think spending more time than not on mech strategy is a distraction.

Just checking if I understand correctly; do you mean we should restrain the amount of hoods each player can live in?

[Solo]

Very cool

[Solo]

I was gonna yell at Dusa but damn

this is pretty obviously an experienced player

why would you be yelling at Dusa if they were new?
Honestly you kinda just seem like a jerk, are you always like this when playing?

Honestly you kinda just seem like a jerk, are you always like this when playing?

[Solo]

VOTE: FakeGod

[Solo]

Be nice everyone.

(just kidding, Gamma)

[Solo]

Solo do i know u

Maybe, what's it to you

[Solo]

FakeGod's posting is performative so far

Especially the Dusa post

[Solo]

hmm but bingle who cares if u are in this game, i was citing the great jingle who has absolutely no relation to this... bingle creature

he brings the cool and the muscle

Bell is scum.

Willing to execute Bell on this alone.

Also, I don't like Cupcake. Or Solo? I dunno.

One of those two reminds me of how I would play this setup as scum.

I was gonna yell at Dusa but damn

this is pretty obviously an experienced player

Also pockety towards Bingle, DGB, and Dusa

[Solo]

i feel like you have a very distinct way of talking and i should know you

I use caps lock instead of shift to capitalize, you probably picked up on that

[Solo]

You were referring to Cupcake, not I

He did the setupspec

[Solo]

Not enthused by the mass OMGUS conspiracy theory tbh

[Solo]

i actually like hypothermia's vote on gamma. gamma's vote against the gimmick feels a little forced

VOTE: gamma emerald

What were you plotting in the half an hour between these?

[Solo]

Because hopefully that will make it stop

Okay.

Why should it stop?

Because it’s annoying and will make them harder to read

Okay.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I find it scummy that you voted someone who only expressed a want to vote you and not someone on your wagon who actually went through with it. Voting someone who didn't commit yet feels like a bullying tactic (not in a social manner, mind you, but it is a bit rude) to keep them away.

That, and justifying it like you are is weak.

I think most people after being voted would be more inclined to vote that person, rather than be less inclined to or scared away

Gamma voting Dusa over anyone on his wagon to scare her away from voting him is a very bizarre take. I'm also not sure why you're starting on the premise that Gamma should be better suited to vote someone on his wagon

Deliberating whether you're scum or think in a very strange way

[Solo]

Would Not Lim:

Yuri, Cupcake, Dann, Solo

Hasn't Summoned Guy Fieri Yet:

OkaPoka

Would Lim:

STD, Hypothermia

Best acquaintances:

Oka, Bell, Gamma, Dann

Intrigued by:

GuiltyLion, Dusa

Very mad at:

FakeGod, Hypothermia

[Solo]

I would also vote Gamma Emerald if the game had started! We need to save up some gems and unlock it!

What the hell does this mean

VOTE: Dusa
just no

@GuiltyLion

These two posts were the driving factor for my vote on Gamma. I don’t think I clarified as well as I could have.

Gamma at that point I believe had three votes; he engaged with one with sarcasm but did not make an attempt to really communicate with the people on him. Instead he sees someone who expressed a want to vote him and voted there, which is... confusing to me. I would want to understand more why a small wagon had formed on me even if it’s early, and I was imposing that onto Gamma as well. Engaging with someone on the merits of their posting style felt to me like it was a veiled attempt to dissuade Dusa from that sentiment in an aggressive manner.

Alternatively, I guess it could just be scum!Gamma not knowing how to engage with “stronger” players on his wagon yet but that more than anything is where I feel I’d be uncharitable. But it was the thing that pinged me in this game so far.

You’re correct that I’ve invented motivation though, but that’s just the point of scumhunting I think.

I did read this, but I don't agree with it either. I don't believe Gamma was looking to engage with anyone on his wagon, he was just voting Dusa for reasons unrelated to her expressing interest in voting him, because of her gimmick that is

Could you explain why you think Dusa would be dissuaded from voting Gamma after being attacked, rather than persuaded?

[Solo]

Or why Gamma would think it would dissuade her

Most players are prone to OMGUS

[Solo]

Okay, I can understand your reasoning better knowing how you think you yourself would react

[Solo]

Had posted past rvs but no content

[Solo]

What's vote-worthy of the reads list?

[Solo]

What's vote-worthy of the reads list?

It's weird to highlight both players voting you as being on your radar and only that but not engage with or challenge either. What's the point of mentioning them?

That section is townleans

[Solo]

Really, Dusa? You have no opinion on anything I've posted since my first few posts?

[Solo]

How do people read Gamma Emerald and Dannfloor?

Town and pleasant to read so hopefully town

[Solo]

Solo performative

How dare you

You're performative

[Solo]

Taking different approach, max 10 words allowed per post

[Solo]

Bell feels distinctly different from his scum game. I wouldn't like bet my life's savings on it yet but I might bet the contents of the jar of rainy day cash savings that sits on my desk. The sort of LAMIST vibes people were picking up from him are... I think... emblematic of his town play. Bell is a little more uhhh self conscious as scum. I'm still watching him closely. Yes, you Bell. I'm watching you. Keep this posting up. Don't start going scummy

Gamma Emerald reminds me of that one game where I was scum and died immediately because Flavor Leaf is good at this game. GE isn't low hanging fruit per se, but his entrances often leave a lot of room for scum to jump on him. He tends to poke at the outrageous, and thence becomes outrageous himself, which is a literal beacon for scum to jump on. thusly, I am incredibly incredulous at the hypothesis that his wagon is/was all town. I mean, regardless of his alignment I am incredulous, but especially if he is town, which I do believe to be the case.

I sorta already touched on this I think but with the amount of pressure GE was under, I think scum!him maybe tries to develop a more nuanced reasoning for his push on Dusa. At worse, his frustration with Dusa is NAI. The fact that he's rather unworried about his wagon is also +town. I mean Gamma is experienced, he won't freak out, but he didn't lurk out and instead has remained quite active + playing the game and that's ususally a harder response for scum to pull off in response to a wagon wagon

FakeGod might be town just for not caring much where his vote is right now? Idk. I see the performative argument too. He's in the OkaPoka boat of "I want them to be town but they're sorta dancing around playing the game / saying what's on their mind." no I will not take that back

bingle bingle bingle. all I remember from you is that town reading Oka is undeserved.

DGB is like town. I will not be reevaluating at this time.

I was half-kidding with UNOwen town but reading back I actually really like that read. I will not be taking questions at this time.

Hypothermia ehhhhh. The trouble with all these secret alts is figuring out if they're mafia or players with slightly more out there logic than normal. Also, I keep mixing up Hypthermia with Cupcake in my head. They're both just occupying a spot in my brain of GET YOUR LUKE WARM MAFIA TAKES HERE. LUKE WARM TAKES. LOOKS AS VANILLA AS CAN BE. might be mafia trying to not make waves. might be townies who I haven't got a bead on yet or haven't got a bead on the game yet, who knows.

Solo performative

I voted Savethedragons because Bell was voting there. I'm continuing to vote Savethedragons because they haven't moved passed their Gamma vote 10 pages ago and seemingly can't move on to any new horizons despite the endless possibilities this particular rousing game of mafia has offered us all.

the dragons will not be saved this game

I like this thought

[Solo]

am i crazy or

You are not crazy, you are smart and valued

[Solo]

That's a written note

[Solo]

Dusa didn't dust my bed actually, was disappointed

[Solo]

One of my cthonic keys is also a little oily

[Solo]

Have you seen Dannscum do that charm elsewhere?

[Solo]

i actually like hypothermia's vote on gamma. gamma's vote against the gimmick feels a little forced

VOTE: gamma emerald

What were you plotting in the half an hour between these?

Would like this answered

[Solo]

i actually like hypothermia's vote on gamma. gamma's vote against the gimmick feels a little forced

VOTE: gamma emerald

What were you plotting in the half an hour between these?

Would like this answered

i was in my scum pt asking if it would be a good idea to vote gamma

Oi do you think this is some kind of joke

[Solo]

UNOwen town for his bounty hunting on unanswered questions

[Solo]

Pedantic maybe but why’s Bell solidly town in 337 and then probably in 338 alongside Bingle? You distinguished them separately. @QB

Fuck it whatever etc etc.

Every time in the past when I've given Bell a full townread his play goes straight downhill so I'm going to keep him at the top of my "not full townread pile" and see if it helps him play better.

This is really towny

[Solo]

Yuri desperate to talk to Bingle and flies into space sus

[Solo]

Creating a flow chart on how to respond when questioned

[Solo]

i actually like hypothermia's vote on gamma. gamma's vote against the gimmick feels a little forced

VOTE: gamma emerald

What were you plotting in the half an hour between these?

Would like this answered

i was in my scum pt asking if it would be a good idea to vote gamma

That makes this towny

[Solo]

Oka, why'd you curb your enthusiasm

[Solo]

I'm trying to do more performative vibing

[Solo]

You're a Butterfly Ball

[Solo]

Did you get blessings from Karl Marx though

[Solo]

I gave up on caring or thinking about mechanics

[Solo]

You got it sorted out, I sheep the utr strat

[Solo]

Did you get blessings from Karl Marx though

daddy Marx came to me as a vision in the night to tell me how proud he was of me for owning the American Space Program and all the nazis in it

Okay I believe it, send me over a manifesto

[Solo]

solo is there a light at the end of the tunnel?

Yes but the problem is that it's blinding

[Solo]

solo is there a light at the end of the tunnel?

Yes but the problem is that it's blinding

would you say that you're blinded by the light? or perhaps that you're drowning in the night?

Yes and no one’s around to judge me

[Solo]

How come?

[Solo]

That being said I don’t get the charming aspect here and I think that if he was trying to play to that game he’d be appealing to different people to be his townreads who would be better at driving a game to his benefit (as in, I feel like someone like Oka?) would be higher up. Maybe FakeGod or Bingle too but I don’t know the former and I’m basing that entirely on him running cool games and thinking he can get a good foothold in them because he understands them.

This seemed presumptuous given she's never seen charming Dannscum

[Solo]

Have you seen Dannscum do that charm elsewhere?

I’ve heard whispers of it.

And hearing whispers =/= knowing Dannscum would townread useful players

[Solo]

Hypothermia could be scum but afraid she'll freeze me

[Solo]

Moderately good bad sign

[Solo]

Why Dann?

[Solo]

Thanks for letting us know, I'm town fyi

[Solo]

It was town/townlean/scum

[Solo]

It's interesting that Fakegod shifted his opinion of Yuri from 422 to 527 (I think this is good). I thought Fakegod was a little suspicious before because he didn't seem to be scumhunting.

I think you're scum.

VOTE: Lavar

You're growing on me, like a mold

[Solo]

well, that answers that

I treat townreads and scumreads equally

VOTE: dann

[Solo]

Gamma / UNOwen / Bell / Qoobee are cool

[Solo]

Oka too probably

[Solo]

Granting myself unlimited word count for read lists

Town:

Gamma
UNOwen
Bell
Qoobee
Oka
Save Dragons

Town?:

Yuri
Dusa
Dannflor
Guiltylion
Cupcake Butterfly

Scum?:

FakeGod
Bingle

Scum:

DGB
Hypothermia
Lavar

[Solo]

jesus christ

Speak your mind

[Solo]

The sections weren't ordered btw

[Solo]

Taking different approach, max 10 words allowed per post

uhhhh shit
have you done this before?

Potentially