Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

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Boy howdy are you going to hate our reads then.

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Well, cabd-mine.

Ffery's still entertaining Titus as possible scum like a total plebian, among her many other lovable faults.

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So then who is scum Morph.

Cause I think MC probably is.

We're getting there.

Today is our last possible day to sync while both at home and in front of our battle stations.

A list is coming.

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Uh sure okay, I think murderkitty doubling down after just watching Anya get murderedededed in the face out of a potential T-T wagon setup prior to it makes scum murdercat unlikely to step up and do the exact same AND I think Shea's townread of him is probably correct but also very potentially informed pregame but I haven't really batcaved that to ffery yet so oh well, you asked.

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Beetle juice

Is this in reference to us?

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You asked for off the cuff! If you want the receipts then yeah, you'll get those but not instantly. I'm mobile currently watching my sick almost two year old sleep in her crib between posts and occasionally running out to check on her pasta I'm making for when she wakes up.

You aren't exactly going to get the thesis here.

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Yes notsci approximately the rest of your life devoted to efforting in this game.

Give or take you can have an hour off to go play fire emblem and learn about what we were trying to crumb yesterday about troubadour that is now moot but I'm disappointed in you.

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Chicken broth instead of water for Kraft Mac and cheese btw.

Total life hack for sick kids.

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Yeah. Although I use the shapes ones because the texture is easier and double the butter.

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If you like extra protien, use sliced hot dogs. All beef ones work best, I recommend VIenna Beef if available in your area.

Add them alongside the raw pasta.

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I do want to point out though that needing to read me at this point I take as a win that you didn't reverse engineer my one biggest scum weakness during tenet.

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I don't love post 4647. :/

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Hey guys ircher is flipping town

You said about 3000 posts ago that you're good at reading Ircher. What is it about him that you're strongly(?) townreading?

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unvote:

syncing

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S_S seems fine.

I've played with Ircher like 3 times or so. all I really understand is how to correct for some idiosyncrasies and recognize that he's not really genuine when he plays mafia as either alignment.

Could you put some more words around your S_S read? I really want to put our read of him to bed, and I'm just not feeling it. :/

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<3

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I'm here, sync is happening.

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Cabd-head reads:

{Bingle, Artemiana, Sigmund, Titus}
{LLD, Bell}
{notscience, MurderCat, dwlee}
{NDMath, White Fire, Thestatusquo, Flea, Dunnstral }
{Flea, Ircher, Farkran }
{Whemestar, S_S, Chara}

Ffery-head reads:

{Bingle, Artemiana, Sigmund}
{LLD, Bell}
{dwlee, Dunnstral , notscience, Thestatusquo, NDMath, Titus}
{White Fire, MurderCat}
{Flea, Chara, Farkran, Ircher}
{Whemestar, S_S}

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SYNC ACHIEVED

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something_Smart

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With all of that out of the way, calling murdercat town flips but not really sure we have the time required to effort away the wagon here like we did yesterday for town-sigmund~

So rabble rabble, etc.

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Why is wheme on the bottom

Other folks are better, fell off hard.

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Fading, will come back to the puddle-of-bell-feels in the morning to scoop it back into a container.

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We'll take that under consideration. I'm not sure wheme is who I'd next most want to vote, but I am kinda sad and disappointed atm.

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So completely unrelated to the Troubadour role in Etrian Oddesy?

You know, the title which literally means "warndering poet"

What powers do you think a troubadour would have, based on your knowledge of the lore?

@morph this was a relevant question

Our working theory was something akin to yuumi in league of legends. So like neighborizes who buffs that stats of whoever they are pair bonded to.

Fits the class in the game anyways.


Could also be like hider or something but yeah. Some sort of connection between two players with a stat boost.

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When I got my own role the first thing I did is look at the wiki for our class and see how I would have made it into a mafia role.


So far for that one and all of the flips we got info for, my sense of game design has been close enough to unwnds.

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SYNC ACHIEVED

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something_Smart

...want to explain it?

What else besides our read of you do you think we have wrong?

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@shea who in my readslist do you disagree on placement and why

Are you happy with White Flame's level of engagement the last few days?

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didn't the Sigmund wagon fizzle because he claimed doc?

Is this a response to something posted earlier?

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No but it’s hypocritical of me to say anything about it

In general do you think Firebringer's alignment affects his level of engagement?

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I don’t have that much experience with him

But tonally he felt identical to tenet all day one

Me neither.

Agree that his tone was great on Day 1. His latter part of Day 2 is worrying me.

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Morph, Sangres vote agreement re MCat? I think it was sangres

not sure what you're asking?

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Why does ff think mc is town.

MC is in the middle of null and within the PoE to me. Cabd has him as stronger town than that and I think he's explained it pretty well already.

I wish I had more attention span, but I don't, and I don't know when it will get better. Hopefully during the next week.

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can someone protect Chara from morph.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

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Wheme if I’m protecting you from morph you can’t kill my other strong townread >:(

I am rdy to fight morph

It's more in sadness than in anger.

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@people who know flavor (i.e. morph): is SP a mechanic in the game? Is Farmer a class that does not use it?

Cabd probably won't be around until later tonight (if then). He thinks that if there are roles that don't have an SP-enabled ability, both sides will have them. I've asked him specifically about the Farmer class and will post his answer if he can't himself.

You asked about our read of you.

Mine is gut and my gut is waffling. One of the things that really set me off in the Guardians game was the way you approached me there, way more familiarly than in prior games where I initiated most of our interactions. You have not done that here, probably because of how I reacted there. And I've tried to just let the read come to me. The blank space in the game where our (fairly scant) interactions have been in pre-Guardians games is blank space because I'm not engaging you enough. So, I'm scumreading you for not interacting with me when 1) interacting with me had a high cost in the previous game and 2) I'm not making interaction happen either.

I don't feel like this is a strong enough reason to have a vote on you right now, but I'm not likely to change it without a sync.

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One other thought from Cabd, he thinks there's a lackadaisical feel to the game design in terms of small details matching up. He feels like expecting consistency could be disappointing.

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Cabd probably won't be around until later tonight (if then). He thinks that if there are roles that don't have an SP-enabled ability, both sides will have them. I've asked him specifically about the Farmer class and will post his answer if he can't himself.

Well, we know that there is at least one (and likely two) town roles that do not have SP abilities-- but that's not the same as not having SP at all. Though, Bingle does raise a good point, though I really wish he had waited to raise it till NDMath showed up.

Regarding your read on me-- I think I've interacted with you about as much as I usually do in a large. My interactions with you in Guardians were a high for a number of reasons; aside from the obvious ones (smaller game, individual reads more relevant), there's also the fact that I have a hard time telling you and Cabd apart most of the time, so it's hard for me to reach out to you specifically.

I'm honestly not sure why I feel that differently about the two of you given that most of my experience with you has been with both of you together. Maybe it's because I've known you longer (you modded one of my first games on the site).

If you're town, then I guess we're even on the feeling different for hard to define reasons bit.

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Counterpoint:
Tenet.

Counterpoint to what specifically?

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Same re around to consolidate.

We'd prefer an Ircher wagon to MC or ND.

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Counterpoint:
Tenet.

Counterpoint to what specifically?

The watcher/doc/IC combo.

I thought so, but wanted to be sure. Cabd and I invoked Tenet when we saw 4974

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Same re around to consolidate.

We'd prefer an Ircher wagon to MC or ND.

Well, you were right on the artemenia thing, but I'm not going to trust you without dream shenanigans.

It's more about thinking MC and ND are town than thinking ircher is scum.

We're worried that none of the main wagons have been on scum today. The game just has that kind of feel to it, somehow.

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Well of course you would it advances scum wincon

Laughed.






Both of the "options" being presented are townreads and we will only hammer out of avoiding a no-elim.


Town should really not be doing damage of any sort at nights. Scum almost certainly have a way to protect themselves so all you're doing is denying wagon information and shortening the game by removing players early. You're also muddying track/watch/etc waters, heavily. *points at the STD corpse *

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Human nature, not that we'd know what humans do.

When math/murdercat flips town, we told you so, you pompous geese.

Off to work.

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I'm playing based upon my heart, not mechspec or setupspec for once.

Calling it "weird" is fine, but the scumteam thought the same thing last time I pulled this out in Xeno.

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I'm playing based upon my heart, not mechspec or setupspec for once.

Calling it "weird" is fine, but the scumteam thought the same thing last time I pulled this out in Xeno.

Do you really think they just got sick of everything and bailed on the game as town?

Why not. I basically did the exact same thing in my most recent completed game.

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I'm playing based upon my heart, not mechspec or setupspec for once.

Calling it "weird" is fine, but the scumteam thought the same thing last time I pulled this out in Xeno.

Do you really think they just got sick of everything and bailed on the game as town?

Why not. I basically did the exact same thing in my most recent completed game.

Cool, I was VT, washing my hands of the game.

Good luck to those who give a shit.

P-edit, you can't unvote after hammer lol.

Off to go back to coding then.

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And you're allowed to be wrong!

Like I said, given that murder has given up ffery and I don't have nearly enough "puppet strings" to stop this elim. We willingly took a backseat this day after it was requested by our townreads.

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Maras not scum guys

Go ISO her in mylo really quick it’s night and day

We agree she's not scum.

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Cabd, MC is scum. The above is just the nail in the coffin.

I disagree with both you AND titus but my pushing back is counterproductive at this point.

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Like I agree it's a terrible look, I think it makes him apathetic beatdown town, though.

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re notsci: updated

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Lexi, Bell, notty, et al.

If we hand you murdercat and it's a town flipskies, until everyone in our little group of happy campers is dead, you go off the reads lists ffery and I posted, mmkay?

Because that's prolly his alignment, even though you're death tunneled.

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I have an entire plate of dirt(Well actually just gummi worms and pudding) to livestream me eating if he flips scum.

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Shea i think the post was ADDRESSED to us, not includes us.

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If he flips town I'm killing you next.

Well, tomorrow's gonna be fun if we don't get shot, then.

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In fairness, Lexi wants to murder us tomorrow for daring to be able to red murdercat betterererer than her, so~

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Morph has been calling them town all day while doing nothing about it, and real life aside they could have done what I did at any point yesterday and hammered somehting like S_S home and seen what happened.

But they didn't. They sat on a single vote S_S wagon and are now making "i control the thread when MC flips town" vagueties.

Whcih is what I was waiting to see.

YOU FUCKING TOLD US TO LET YOU HAVE THE MANTLE ARCEUS FUCK

Today is YOUR day while we sit back and note that we think you're wrong but let you have your way because of day one.

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I'm going to go take a literal cat nap instead of deal with this frustration longer.

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Shea i think the post was ADDRESSED to us, not includes us.

also you didn't answer me! do you want murdercat or Math to go down today? i know you don't want either, but one of them has to.

I believe I indicated I'd choose murdercat if forced.

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...Was it not you?

I distinctly recall you telling us to step back and let the thread breathe and stuff.

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VOTE: Murdercat under protest.

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Yo morph like i get it you have lines of questioning you want to do but this isn't a 1v6 with x NPCs. People have just as much right to post in the thread and talk as you do.

This is beginning to feel very much like playing pandemic and one player keeps trying to take everyone's turns for them and it's annoying the crap out of me.

This is a coop not a two player.

FUCK it was shea we recalled it being lexi and thats why we sat back.

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Too late into the day deadline to change it now.

Mea culpa.

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Not nearly enough to flashwagon my own scumpool.

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Cabd-head reads:

{Bingle, Artemiana, Sigmund, Titus}
{LLD, Bell}
{notscience, MurderCat, dwlee}
{NDMath, White Fire, Thestatusquo, Flea, Dunnstral }
{Flea, Ircher, Farkran }
{Whemestar, S_S, Chara}

More or less still here.

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No, for thread health, flash wagon outside of the two now is just going to let the issue fester, and in worst case scenario ends in nolim.

Going to grit my teeth and bear the probable townflips.

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There's only something like 6 hours to deadline here.

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People: hey morph stop being so controlling
Morph: steps back
People: shocked Pikachu face
People: morph would never actually value thread health as town!

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I know you’re annoyed and I know I’m a hypocrite but that doesn’t really help anything rn

take heart that you've pulled yourself out of my "worried" bucket in the last 72 or so hours.

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You lot can have spay. I'm fucking off for that hours nap now.

You may have stated it one way but it was received differently shea.

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more like 6.

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Note to the future: Of the people who are shading us, the one whose approach feels most scummy is Dunn.

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We'll step back then, fine, whatever.

People don't ATUALLY want another xenoblade cabd when they have to live with him in the moment.

They just want the end results :/

Except I'm 1-0 this game.

And I feel very on fire.

So this sudden burst of "ME CONTROL ME TOWNIE TOWN CENTER AROUND ME"

right after I just did a BoP test and fucking spiked it?

Reads like trying to ensure social control remains in your hands and not mine.

And I scumread that from you today.

This is the post from LLD that I interpreted as a shut up and sit down.

~spay

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Note to the future: Of the people who are shading us, the one whose approach feels most scummy is Dunn.

I think this is unfair as he spent two days arguing against me about you and is incredibly likely to be the most paranoid off the back of tenet

Maybe. I didn't feel this way earlier.

It just feels like he's scum that's pissed that we aren't falling in line on MC and ND.

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Yeah I definitely got a “go away” vibe towards morph early this day so I get where they are coming from and I think even though it might not have been the intention, it was received as such

Ninja-
It’s why I’m townreading him I feel like he’s hyper aware and trying to look for every trick you pulled in tenet

You're talking to the snowed led to slaughter, not the scum-mastermind of tenet. It was Dunn's interactions/call-outs specifically to me that had him as a townread earlier.

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Murdercat can you claim please?

I can attack (anti town imo) and get notified if I'm targeted

You learn if you were targeted by any actions, or specific ones?

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I mean cabd is burning his cards to keep people off him. That’s my opinion. But i don’t really know if he does this as town too.

If we were scum, the way we've played this day (and day 1 for that matter) would be incredibly thick-headed.

Also, y'all know nothing about me and how this hydra modifies my base play if you think scum-me would have let the slightest discomfort with our Arte-inno gambit show.

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Waking up.

Apparently I might need to go get the gummi worms and pudding? A worthy sacrifice even with my lack of teeth.

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I'm literally missing half my teeth while I await implant surgery.

It's the same thing as why I was on drugs in Xenoblade. That was the week they removed them.

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Good morning FF.

Dear diary today bell fucked up detection of morph head.

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Good morning FF.

Wrong head

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FF is the one with the sleeping issue! It was an honest mistake.

Damnit.

Insomnia is an old friend to the both of us.

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In this case though, I literally said I was going to be taking an hour long nap for my WFH work lunch hour, and then posted "waking up" when my alarm went off as I skimmed from my phone.

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Anyways, Sigmund's data is pretty damning so glad to be wrong.

Still think this wasn't a scum-scum duel.

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This is why you don't get invested in things.

Mood.

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I don't think it is damning.

As you said the game seems to be put together in sort of a weird way with how stuff like that resolves

. I could easily see the ability only being triggered if the target is successful and healing HP when they're at HP might not be successful.

Pointless to have that discussion after the quick hammer though. I'm just a little miffed I didn't get to keep investigating that.

I'm trying to re-assure myself more than I actually think it was 100% nail-in-coffin damning.

WRT bolded, yeah. Like I told ffery the other night, this feels like a Tales game, where I moderated some really weird shit in a similar vein. (Shout out to town poison doctor and no poisoner roles)

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:/

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Wheme's results are in narrative form apparently. He says his results indicate Sigmund wasn't visited on N1

We visited Sigmund on N1.

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Nothing about clouds in our role PM.

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Well then IDFK maybe you got rolebloked.

We were told our action was successful.

This is an anomaly that Town SHOULD NOT lose track of going forward.

Looking at you, notsci.

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Well then IDFK maybe you got rolebloked.

We were told our action was successful.

This is an anomaly that Town SHOULD NOT lose track of going forward.

Looking at you, notsci.

WOAH YOU THINK IM SCUM FOR THIS?

We weren't scumreading you for it initially. Maybe there's an explanation, but our night action targeting Sigmund was successful according to unwnd.

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The more I think about this the worse I feel about it.

elaborate?

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7) SS is very likely town based on what i know of him

Could you expand on this?

No

I'm not sure why we got farkran's brushoff here, but it's also something for the future to think about.

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Well then IDFK maybe you got rolebloked.

We were told our action was successful.

This is an anomaly that Town SHOULD NOT lose track of going forward.

Looking at you, notsci.

WOAH YOU THINK IM SCUM FOR THIS?

We weren't scumreading you for it initially. Maybe there's an explanation, but our night action targeting Sigmund was successful according to unwnd.

Do you think Scum me makes something up like this? Or if im not making this up do you think scum me reveals my night result?

Like I said, your initial reaction didn't trouble me too much. it was more of a "hmm" about the game design.

The way your activity dropped off later this game day does bug me though. I think you tend to feel uncomfortable as scum and don't post as much. I'm pretty sure, though, that my only experience with scum-you was in the Penultimate game. We haven't played together much. I've seen your play as a mod more than as a player, and there are inherent limits to that kind of meta for me.

This IS an anomaly, and regardless of my read on you the apparent contradiction needs to be reviewed when there's more data about us both.

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The more I think about this the worse I feel about it.

elaborate?

I spent an unholy amount of time tunneling on a town dude and I’m confused why scum just didn’t barrel along with me. I thought the stagnation was because they were both scum. Now I’m starting to realize that I was either arguing with town a lot or scum that knew that MC was town and I’m not sure how I feel about that.

I thought some about Math in WH13. Your conviction about MC seemed similar.

I doubt MC's wagon is 100% town, so

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Guess your sharp note fell flat~

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Guess your sharp note fell flat~

I let myself have the one, I'll stop now.

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I don't understand how MC doesn't flip scum here with a CC

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Oh and for those of you who were not in tenet, a major part of my scum win was pushing the narrative that town couldn't have a non-macho IC, a watcher, a tracker, and a doctor all at once.

Spoiler alert: Cakez gave them all of that to counteract the extremely dangerous scum vanilla cop.

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Well, OUR scum win.

Lexi's here too.

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I don't think it is damning.

As you said the game seems to be put together in sort of a weird way with how stuff like that resolves

. I could easily see the ability only being triggered if the target is successful and healing HP when they're at HP might not be successful.

Pointless to have that discussion after the quick hammer though. I'm just a little miffed I didn't get to keep investigating that.

I'm trying to re-assure myself more than I actually think it was 100% nail-in-coffin damning.

WRT bolded, yeah. Like I told ffery the other night, this feels like a Tales game, where I moderated some really weird shit in a similar vein. (Shout out to town poison doctor and no poisoner roles)

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Now I have the Abyss opening stuck in my head, damn it.

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Oh and for those of you who were not in tenet, a major part of my scum win was pushing the narrative that town couldn't have a non-macho IC, a watcher, a tracker, and a doctor all at once.

Spoiler alert: Cakez gave them all of that to counteract the extremely dangerous scum vanilla cop.

Sorry what is thr context point for this?

We mentioned earlier about "town has too much PRs" setup spec being pointless.

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outside Bingle, artemiana is our strongest townread

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So.

We are the result of the multiple locks. Stand by.

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We submitted a bodyguard ability on Artemis last night, and the mod failed to process this action. If things had gone exactly as locked in, we'd be dead flipped confirmed town right now, and Mara-timis would be screaming her cop result from the rooftops.

Instead, we have been told that the mod will explicitly confirm this error and that we have permission to make this post, and the game will proceed with that confirmation.

It's the best we can do :/

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He's not tho.

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Sorry, Mara.

We had your back. :/

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Bodyguard is our "super duper like maaaaybe twice in the whole game ability" that ironically mara stole SP from us and delayed the activation of by multiple phases. It was a VERY expensive one.

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More specifically:

Why didn't he protect Artemisia who claimed cop

I mean I can't speak for sigmund but ffery and I sat down and shortlisted multiple protect candidates and picked one out of a hat.

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So effectively, artemis got to cop-clear somebody after all, but it was us instead of a useful result :~(

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But yeah,

Sigmund is a TOWN player doing things with a TOWN mindset doing TOWN things.

Roles, interactions, mechanics be damned.

That is a 150% synced read and we're going to be bullies about it if we have to.

From Day 1.

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I am assuming mafia all has chip-away powers as well as their factional btw. Which means we should assume multiple kills a night because fuck us that's why.

Town needs to fucking sit on their hands and stop taking potshots at each other.

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That's... well I guess having one clear cat is less valuable than having two clears if Artemiana had lived. Maybe more useful than having a 1v1.

But I guess I can eat my morph paranoia now.

She didn't have a real result from the prior phases, last night would have been her first.... But yeah, I get it. All we can do is play in the timeline we live in.

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You realize that's not gonna happen, right? The temptation is too great.

Yes but as we are now confirmed town, fuck you all for doing that multiple nights in a row.

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Town needs to fucking

sit on their hands

and stop taking potshots at each other.

Or on claws, as the case may be~

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I mean, I want all shots at dead people claimed, I think?

BINGLE! Confirmed town powwow, what's the best strategy here? I'm thinking all shots at flipped players get claimed, attacks on still-alive players don't for now?

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I am assuming mafia all has chip-away powers as well as their factional btw. Which means we should assume multiple kills a night because fuck us that's why.

Town needs to fucking sit on their hands and stop taking potshots at each other.

Is there benefit to all claiming who we've shot at so far?

Like, tell mafia who's lost HP?

My initial reaction is fuck no.

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Bell, stop crying in your Mafia PT that we got confirmed town on "paranoid about morph tehehehehe" day~

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Town needs to fucking sit on their hands and stop taking potshots at each other.

I mean obviously town should not intentionally shoot at town, but I think shooting at someone you believe to have a reasonable chance of being scum isn't a bad play.

Except it fucking is when mafia probably has a factional night kill AND 5 hp worth of chip damage to dole out when players are averaging about that in HP count, if not under.

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Town needs to fucking sit on their hands and stop taking potshots at each other.

I mean obviously town should not intentionally shoot at town, but I think shooting at someone you believe to have a reasonable chance of being scum isn't a bad play.

Given the overall demonstrably iffy read accuracy of town so far, I'm personally allergic to using our claws until things are a lot less murky.

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Our mantra for this game: reads > mechanics spec

I spent a chunk of Night 2/Stratum 4 rereading Tales of You, a game where, if town had worked a little harder to find each other and had been a whole lot more cautious in our mechanics spec, we might have won.

That scumteam though. In a lot of ways they were equal to or better than the Tenet scum team.

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I am working on the world's largest "we fucking told yo so" banner to hold up next to all the dead townies that we fucking told you all were town, by the by.

[morph the cat]

Wheme's results are in narrative form apparently. He says his results indicate Sigmund wasn't visited on N1

We visited Sigmund on N1.

Also highlighting this as hi yeah this is ALSO mod confirmed info now essentially~

[morph the cat]

You realize that's not gonna happen, right? The temptation is too great.

You in particular need to resist temptation.

[morph the cat]

Ya'll better fuck off and leave at least SOME of my locktown reads alive, no touchie sigmund.

[morph the cat]

Cabd-head reads:

{

Bingle

,

Artemiana

, Sigmund,

Titus

}
{LLD, Bell}
{notscience,

MurderCat

, dwlee}
{

NDMath

, Catboi, Thestatusquo, Flea, Dunnstral }
{Flea, Ircher, Farkran }
{Whemestar, S_S, Chara}

You fuckers don't get to touch sigmund.

I've lost too many townreads to stupid fucking play.

We're confirmed town and I intend to go out in a blaze of glory today, we are NOT eliminating town.

[morph the cat]

Whemestar explicitly claims all results from last night in his next post or dies.

[morph the cat]

Once the raindeer gets here we're putting together an order for mass claim, potentially, in our in-thread public masonry.

[morph the cat]

morph, i know you're conftown and all, and speaking facetiously, but i don't appreciate being addressed as a part of the fuckers collective when you have me in your scumpile.

I was highlighting the reads that flipped town. Everything south of null is in flux RN.

[morph the cat]

Also if somebody could put together a list of all claims, both flavor and chip damage, that would be swell.

[morph the cat]

I am working on the world's largest "we fucking told yo so" banner to hold up next to all the dead townies that we fucking told you all were town, by the by.

Please spend more time on something constructive or we're going to lose. I need to reevaluate how I hunt.

We work on the banner when we're too angry to post politely.

I'm not holstering, and you aren't going to change that. You can give me a target pool, but again, I'm not holstering.

Urge to burn: Rising.

[morph the cat]

We work on the banner when we're too angry to post politely.

Which is pretty often this game!

[morph the cat]

morph you need me today or can i pretend this game doesn't exist

You got your desired elim. It flipped town. I want "lexi who hit town and resets and picks a new direction" mode at some point in the next 72ish hours.

[morph the cat]

i'm pretty terrible at casing, but i do believe pretty strongly Flea is scum. i think faer Sigmund read in particular feels very faked.

Try your best anyways? It's a battle royale to escape my vast "5 players are scum in this game" pool at the bottom of my reads and you trying to explain might help me sort you.

[morph the cat]

god

Lord Arceus smiles.

[morph the cat]

Like Cabd if you can't already see the shape of this becomming "Cabd gets to pick who he wants to kill, the dayphase" then I don't think you have quite the peripheral vision I gave you credit for.

And I remain uncertain how you think I'm supposed to re-evaluate with pressure and control when nothing I will do will matter wihtout your sayso.

People will just ignore me.

Except the guy choosing who does die a fiery death of fire is expliclty asking for YOUR input? Fuck the rest of the thread. Find scum and sell me. Pretend the game thread is locked but you can post in a hood of you and me and Ffery.

[morph the cat]

And even if I do end up not going with your choice at least we have more data and that's a good thing.

Speaking of did anyone actually get a hood? Relevant.

[morph the cat]

Yeah I'm asking if anyone has a neighborhood pt at all.

[morph the cat]

that won't matter because in the end you're just gonna kill whoever you like without my input.

This is not true.

We're going to protect the HELL out of our townreads while we still can, but are all cute pointy ears regarding who you think we should be scumreading.

[morph the cat]

Not a gimmick to read you.

I genuinely want your input. Even though your Artemis read was very wrong it helped me figure out where else to go and we ended up on Anya for example.

I'm currently town reading you.

[morph the cat]

We're going to protect the HELL out of our townreads while we still can

^


In every way we have left which sadly is shouting.

[morph the cat]

I'm about to crash. It's midnight here. This CAN wait for coherence.

[morph the cat]

I mean I'm explicitly going to be directing claims of any and all pts later this game day so you have beaten now and then to come up with ana amazing goddamn reason to not talk about hoods if you intend not to.

[morph the cat]

I'm asking about hoods writ large. Not just ones from night two.

[morph the cat]

Am I really not in bell tier yet

During the latter part of Day 2 you went from:



to



We'll do a revised list soonish.

[morph the cat]

It's possible none exist but I'd like to know that too.


Unwnds fetish for parity cops is legendary.

Pedit- only want info on what night it was created as of right now.

[morph the cat]

That you seemed to think they were talking to you specifically

Oh. No, the specific part was because I wasn't sure what exactly they wanted to know.

But I think it's kinda obvious at this point. Yes I am in a hood. I won't give any further information unless morph specifically asks for it.

This explains an oddity I noticed yesterday.

[morph the cat]

I can infer who it's with. Did they create it or did you? And what night.

[morph the cat]

It's possible none exist but I'd like to know that too.


Unwnds fetish for parity cops is legendary.

Pedit- only want info on what night it was created as of right now.

can you stay awake long enough for this list

Uhhhh it's a work day tomorrow if I'm going to be processing it once you post it that's a lot of time.

Or do you intend to post it then I thumbs up and I fuck off to bed?

[morph the cat]

Yeah that's fine.

[morph the cat]

It's possible none exist but I'd like to know that too.


Unwnds fetish for parity cops is legendary.

Pedit- only want info on what night it was created as of right now.

can you stay awake long enough for this list

Uhhhh it's a work day tomorrow if I'm going to be processing it once you post it that's a lot of time.

Or do you intend to post it then I thumbs up and I fuck off to bed?

we can have indepth later, i just want you to tell me if anything sticks out as "i hard disagree"

Literally our only hard no touchie is Sigmund. We are open to hearing about anyone else. Even our other town reads exist to be challenged. I won't be upset if you try to sell us one if them and we will evaluate it fairly.

Deal?

[morph the cat]

Thanks.

I'll process that tomorrow with more brain.

We align on at least a few of our priority murders.

[morph the cat]

Today is gonna be treated as eliminate or lose given all the chio damage flying around.

Once the raindeer and I align we likely proclaim maasclaim in prescribed order.

[morph the cat]

2. Dunnstral
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
8. Sigmund
13. WhemeStar
14. notscience
16. Guillotina Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart

Here are a list of 10 of the 16 people I think have scum equity. The others are cleared by role, play, or mechanic.

From here, we need to assume that we have at best 2 miseliminations remaining. At BEST.

so... I'm going to make a list of 6 names an a notable alternate at 7, that I believe, if killed in order, would win town the game without accidentally risking town losing the game (i.e, the list will be semi ordered in preference to avoid multiple dead townies in a row at any point to avoid parity+bonus kill issues)


4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
8. Sigmund
13. WhemeStar
14. notscience
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart

Is the 7, and in order....

S_S
Farkan
Catboi
Wheme
Shea
Sigmund
NotScience

I think if you eliminate that 7 in order, you win the game. Flea probably town from D1 TVT. Dunn town for having a lot of mind meld moments with me, but I don't have much else there. Dwlee town because I feel like Dwlee tried to inject life into yesterday which apathy would have been a better scum move coming in as a replacement with the current things we know.

So this list, in order, kill them, town should win or be in a winning position to re-evaluate who is left.

One question for now, and answer at your leisure -- we're both shutting down.

What puts Chara outside the 10?

[morph the cat]

Because I misread how my role worked

Are you some sort of sensor?

[morph the cat]

Chara also add STD targeted us with fruit the night one.

[morph the cat]

You remember that time where we emerged from night and write competing master class solves if Xenoblade?


That's what I want again. But this time after we have all the cards in the table.

[morph the cat]

Typing is hard. Sleep is easy.

[morph the cat]

I'm wfh tomorrow so hopefully bingle overlaps with me itt and we get this damn show on the road well before deadline.

[morph the cat]

Actually if we could, like, NOT vote during potential XYLIM that would be swell.

[morph the cat]

Yeah well, scum has multiple ways of killing, and people are dumb and willing to still shoot at each other, so here we are.

[morph the cat]

For all I know they're got several townies to 1 HP and can just scattershot to win the game.

[morph the cat]

Feel free to revote once we have claims on the board. Our lives end today so we just want as much data and time as possible.

[morph the cat]

We still need to sort the top group but I think the bottom is in order. I’m thinking notty/dwlee late, Shea ircher flea ss early. Combination of mech skill and scumminess leading to the earlyness. Fairly confident in the order of the second group.

catboi
Ircher
14. not science
16. Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
19. Chara - wherever we put it in the list is where LLD answers why it’s outside of the 10. If the answer is “mechanics” claim happens after LLD.
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart


2. Dunnstral - my strongest tokay based tr.
13. WhemeStar - mostly claimed.
10. Bell - Assuming still confident on Bell readability.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - claim largely irrelevant to townread.
8. Sigmund
23. Bingle Last
1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) Not Massclaiming.

I'm mostly here although given mech knowledge I feel like S_S role is pretty much assumed in the open, at least partially, so him going absolutely first is no big loss. Would personally go order of...

S_S --> Fark --> Sheaslot --> Flea -->Dwlee -->Notsci -->Chara (mostly because of tie to the LLD stuffsies)

Then

Dunn -->Wheme--->Bell-->LLD-->Sigmund-->You.

Our claim is obviously not going to be majorly needed, we haven't chipped at anyone and we've already claimed who visited us and when, and who we targeted each night, but not with what.

Would prefer first round be "Damage done per night, and character name" and then we evaluate moving on to round two from there. Getting character names locked in GREATLY shrinks the fake claim pool down to stuff that the character could conceivably have. And yeah, it's not perfect and scum can probably still true claim, but it's still a perimeter fence we can put up.

[morph the cat]

I'm leaving you two up to the OG mod confirmed, as my sempai I have to give him SOME choices.

We'll dance after massclaim goes down. Got our fancy 4-pack of laced shoes and everything.

[morph the cat]

If we are doing multiple rounds of massclaim we should probably get going with the first round which sounds like damage done + flavor. I disagree with claiming damage that we have done to people because scum can use that info to make people die in an optimal way.

80% of it is out in the open and we need to assume that it's somewhat obvious, given they know who is town and hasn't claimed, by just looking at their reads?

[morph the cat]

Massclaim format, part I:

Please use this template, it'll make life easier to string things together and track it all.

Player Name (Charater Class/ Role PM name)

Night 0 attack: XYZ for 1 Damage
Night 1 attack: XYZ for 2 Damage
Night 2 Attack: No Damage Dealt

S_S? All you bud.

[morph the cat]

I'm going to be around and such stating the order but yeah it's:

S_S --> Fark --> Shea's slot --> Flea -->Dwlee -->Notsci -->Chara -->Ircher -->Catboi --> Dunn -->Wheme --->Bell-->LLD-->Sigmund-->Bingle--> Morph

Don't need any data other than the name and night damage claims for now, in this round.

[morph the cat]

Fark is up next, por favor, and then we're in a holding pattern pending the replace in.

[morph the cat]

T3 then. Por favor.

[morph the cat]

And obv I’ll follow Order bc I’m a good noodle

If you can't keep it in it's okay, I doubt it'll affect much and it'll give you more gloating time.

[morph the cat]

If you're about to claim let me guess https://etrian.fandom.com/wiki/Arbalist

?

[morph the cat]

And your yuumi crumb was actually that you were a glass cannon, not that you were able to W up to us.

[morph the cat]

I mean, you tell me, my dude.

[morph the cat]

I am gonna pick this game up from Gamestop once it's over, never played this series but sounds like I should.

[morph the cat]

Morph how come I’m so low on your claim list I thought you wanted me to die

Your claim affects others, data wise.

Why are you asking this of us? Do you think this will help us read you better or something?

[morph the cat]

I am pleased to inform everyone that not science has been added to the "no fucking touching you jerkfaces" pool.

Notsci, be proud. If it was 3P with you and Bell crossed, we'd hammer Bell instantly levels of townread you have earned.

[morph the cat]

I'm going to be around and such stating the order but yeah it's:

S_S --> Fark --> Shea's slot --> Flea -->Dwlee -->Notsci -->Chara -->Ircher -->Catboi --> Dunn -->Wheme --->Bell-->LLD-->Sigmund-->Bingle--> Morph

Don't need any data other than the name and night damage claims for now, in this round.

I refuse to sit around and wait forever to T3, will instead just assign the slot ALL MY SCORN and move on. The Fae one may go.

[morph the cat]

Morph what do you think about my n1 result theory?

Not touching this pre-massclaim, so bucket.

[morph the cat]

Going to try that nap thing again, if we could get more data when I wake up that'd be swell.

[morph the cat]

You can like. Do other stuff too.

Around the claims.

[morph the cat]

I genuinely don't get why people think maasclaim means they can't do other shit. Can you not walk and talk at the same time?

[morph the cat]

Notsci went so it's Chara. Notsci should format his stuff though at some point for ease of collection.

[morph the cat]

Flea I know it's a pain but please explicitly claim your role name don't just link the crumb.


I want zero ambiguity here.

[morph the cat]

Nevermind I'm dumb and need to wash my glasses. The part where you did say is smudged.

[morph the cat]

Go ahead ircher.

[morph the cat]

I genuinely don't get why people think maasclaim means they can't do other shit. Can you not walk and talk at the same time?

i'm aware. i'm sure you're also aware that when A Thing is happening conversation tends to be about the thing. i can't singlehandedly make regular thread content happen, and afternoon Chara is far lazier than morning Chara.

pedit: kind of funny notsci had been decreed to go before me. :>

also fuck hold on.

Talk to me, then!

i'm not a VCA player, but i will have opinions anyway probably.

How are these opinions coming along?

~spay

[morph the cat]

Okay other cat. All you.

[morph the cat]

Give flavor in the meanwhile?

[morph the cat]

I'd rather T3 provide flavor nameclaim while waiting for the rest of his details now that he's here, but then yes, next is Dunn.

[morph the cat]

it's full massclaiming i like much less.

I'm not sure we're doing that today so it's Gucci.

[morph the cat]

My favorite catboy is probably Ferris!

[morph the cat]

Bell how mad are you I’m townier than you

Nobody is townier than me.

Oh yeah?

I am pleased to inform everyone that not science has been added to the "no fucking touching you jerkfaces" pool.

Notsci, be proud. If it was 3P with you and Bell crossed, we'd hammer Bell instantly levels of townread you have earned.

[morph the cat]

Please wait till the end, "missing" damage may have explanations that could tip off scum as to their other claims.

[morph the cat]

So, dunny boy next.

[morph the cat]

I mean it'll be a decade before Dunn shows anyways, not like T3 has to rush to beat him to it.

[morph the cat]

Did you get an answer t3? Unwnd responded to me in discord so he’s around.

[morph the cat]

T3 is Shea, tho.