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Post Post #5464 (isolation #400) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:51 am

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I thought about it a lot too. But unlike math, i thought I could read murderkitty, but, nope.
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Post Post #5477 (isolation #401) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:02 am

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*blink*
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Post Post #5478 (isolation #402) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:04 am

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Was that what sigmund was talking about. I thought we were talking about hp.
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Post Post #5479 (isolation #403) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:05 am

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This is a lot for unwnd to keep track of. I wouldn’t be surprised if he made a mistake.
Or Mc is just taking us for a ride. But I kinda sorta, just have convinced myself I fucked up at this point.
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Post Post #5486 (isolation #404) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:16 am

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In post 5483, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 5482, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay maybe when "targeted by actions" they have to succeed?
This seems unlikely to me, but you all can read it and discuss. Given clarification that was given to me near game start, I guess it is possible
So are you saying Sigmund is scum here or?
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Post Post #5489 (isolation #405) » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:27 am

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Well, I’m confused again. I’m sad that, the last spark of hope died.
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Post Post #5516 (isolation #406) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:36 pm

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Fuck
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Post Post #5519 (isolation #407) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:40 pm

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I'm not sure what to do with all this accuracy FF and Cabd have this game.
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Post Post #5522 (isolation #408) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:41 pm

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Well, NDmath was probably the scum kill and then another scum member probably swung at art.
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Post Post #5523 (isolation #409) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:41 pm

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Ircher is ircher.
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Post Post #5528 (isolation #410) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:43 pm

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I'm surprised he had 5 hp. I thought he would be balanced by having low hp.
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Post Post #5530 (isolation #411) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:44 pm

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In post 5525, Dwlee99 wrote:I stg though if we were stuck wagoning three town yesterday... Why.
Good question.
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Post Post #5531 (isolation #412) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:45 pm

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My guess is even distribution and scum not wanting to hop from one wagon to the other much because they wanted town to do the honors and avoid getting heat for it.
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Post Post #5533 (isolation #413) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:46 pm

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VOTE: TheStatusquo
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Post Post #5535 (isolation #414) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:47 pm

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VOTE: Catboi
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Post Post #5536 (isolation #415) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:48 pm

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Nailed it.
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Post Post #5537 (isolation #416) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:48 pm

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In post 5534, Ircher wrote:Why thestatusquo? I think he has had some good takes this game. On the other hand, it's clear my reads are really bad this game.
Changed my mind. Catboi is the easier elimination and just very likely to be scum.
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Post Post #5539 (isolation #417) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:50 pm

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In post 5534, Ircher wrote:Why thestatusquo? I think he has had some good takes this game. On the other hand, it's clear my reads are really bad this game.
Since when were good takes a sign of town? :?
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Post Post #5544 (isolation #418) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:52 pm

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In post 5542, Chara wrote:i don't want to wagon kitty. he just got here. :<

and a town kitty is a useful asset.
Cool. But they replaced into a scum slot.
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Post Post #5549 (isolation #419) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:54 pm

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I agree that a town kitty is very useful though. I like catboi and think he's a good town player.
It's just that the basics tell me at least one scum was off both wagons and that replace outs are more likely to be scum than not. It's not a complicated read. But I find it very likely to be accurate.
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Post Post #5551 (isolation #420) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:55 pm

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No, it's that your role pm is red.
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Post Post #5554 (isolation #421) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:56 pm

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In post 5548, Chara wrote:
In post 5544, Bell wrote:
In post 5542, Chara wrote:i don't want to wagon kitty. he just got here. :<

and a town kitty is a useful asset.
Cool. But they replaced into a scum slot.
you'll have to convince me that was scum Fire.
Deja vu.
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Post Post #5556 (isolation #422) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:56 pm

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In post 5555, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5549, Bell wrote:It's just that the basics tell me at least one scum was off both wagons
excuse me?
You're excused.
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Post Post #5564 (isolation #423) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:00 pm

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In post 5560, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5556, Bell wrote:You're excused.
But you aren't.

Why couldn't all scum be on one of the two wagons?
Excuse me, but I'm town. So I'm automatically excused.
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Post Post #5565 (isolation #424) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:01 pm

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In post 5563, catboi wrote:
In post 5549, Bell wrote:I agree that a town kitty is very useful though. I like catboi and think he's a good town player.
It's just that the basics tell me at least one scum was off both wagons and that replace outs are more likely to be scum than not. It's not a complicated read. But I find it very likely to be accurate.
"Are you...familiar with the pup of fire at all? Because such reasoning should hardly hold weight to those with any passing knowledge of his tendencies. Further, why is the lack of vote from
「WHITE FIRE」
on a wagon a sign of villainy when they appear to have gone totally absent from the game? The argument seems tenuous at best."
So, you're attacking my argument.
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Post Post #5569 (isolation #425) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:04 pm

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In post 5566, Ircher wrote:VOTE: Something_Smart
I actually think this might be better.
Elaborate on the scum equity of S_S over Catboi please.
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Post Post #5571 (isolation #426) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:06 pm

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...Are you really going to start off this game with the "Debate me!" Meme?
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Post Post #5575 (isolation #427) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:09 pm

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^ Please don't coach.
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Post Post #5577 (isolation #428) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:10 pm

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Not really, I find it very scummy when players try to beat someone at argument rather than evaluating why someone is pushing you.
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Post Post #5579 (isolation #429) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 5573, Something_Smart wrote:Bell:
In post 5560, Something_Smart wrote:Why couldn't all scum be on one of the two wagons?
*pokes* do you really think I'm incapable of math as either alignment.
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Post Post #5583 (isolation #430) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:13 pm

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I was just making something ridiculous up to pressure the new person on entry. Well, except for the other reason, since rep outs, are, you already know, more likely to be scum.
I do this pretty frequently.
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Post Post #5589 (isolation #431) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:18 pm

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In post 5586, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5583, Bell wrote:I was just making something ridiculous up to pressure the new person on entry. Well, except for the other reason, since rep outs, are, you already know, more likely to be scum.
I do this pretty frequently.
Okay, that makes sense. (For what it's worth I think Firebringer prefers scum, so I'm not sure him replacing out is scum indicative.)

But, you can't really make up a nonsense argument and then scumread the person for pointing out that it's nonsense.
I'm not, I'm scum reading him for how he decided to defend himself rather than evaluating my alignment himself.
No omgus. Just hey guys let me fit in. I can fit in.

I don't really add preference into that statistic. It's not clean, but I do remember hearing similar yeah.
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Post Post #5592 (isolation #432) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:19 pm

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In post 5591, catboi wrote:
In post 5574, Ircher wrote:@catboi -- Give us some reads to work with. That's probably the most useful thing for you to do to show you are town.
"Your Adventurer's Journal is an incredibly hefty tome. Reading it from cover to cover might take me a fortnight. Surely you don't expect me to have gone over the entire thing in such a short period of time?"

"I intend to develop readings of who is a Hero and Villain, to be certain, but they cannot be brought out of thin air like a Conjurer might produce beasts. The time I was allotted was not enough to gain the necessary context. My hope was to gain a feel for the party by interacting in real time before looking back over the logs for context. I did not expect to be summarily accused upon my introduction."
You didn't? ?_?
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Post Post #5638 (isolation #433) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:00 pm

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In post 5629, morph the cat wrote:Bell, stop crying in your Mafia PT that we got confirmed town on "paranoid about morph tehehehehe" day~
I don't have a scum PT to do that with. Also, I'd be a lot happier.
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Post Post #5643 (isolation #434) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:03 pm

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I'm glad morph is confirmed town. That makes my life easier.
I can just sheep them for the res of the game and blame them if we lose.
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Post Post #5651 (isolation #435) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:07 pm

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@Catboi is that [white fire] bracket thing part of your role or are you just rpg roleplaying?
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Post Post #5655 (isolation #436) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:10 pm

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Hey, I'm town.
I hope this was enough work for you.
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Post Post #5657 (isolation #437) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:12 pm

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Bingle's town, Notty's town.
I don't really think LLD is scum.

Are we in melo?
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Post Post #5659 (isolation #438) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:13 pm

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16 alive. 5 scum left.
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Post Post #5662 (isolation #439) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:14 pm

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So do I, I was just checking how many are left.
Because I love faking town slips as scum, teehee.
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Post Post #5664 (isolation #440) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:16 pm

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1.
Morph the Cat
(fferyllt/Cabd). town.
2. Dunnstral
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
5. Lady Lambdadelta
6. jjh927 Ircher
8. Sigmund
10.
Bell.
Town.
13. WhemeStar
14.
notscience
. Town.
16. Guillotina Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
19. Chara
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
23.
Bingle
. Town.
24. Something_Smart.
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Post Post #5668 (isolation #441) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:19 pm

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In post 5664, Bell wrote:1.
Morph the Cat
(fferyllt/Cabd). town.
2.
Dunnstral

4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer)
catboi

5.
Lady Lambdadelta

6. jjh927
Ircher

8.
Sigmund

10.
Bell.
Town.
13. WhemeStar
14.
notscience
. Town.
16. Guillotina
Dwlee99

18. Flea the Magician
19.
Chara

20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
23.
Bingle
. Town.
24.
Something_Smart
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Post Post #5670 (isolation #442) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:25 pm

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I'm going to bed, I hate my reads this game.
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Post Post #5674 (isolation #443) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:27 pm

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Except for Catboi.
Tbh, I really do think they're scum for how they defended themselves. I know that's silly tho. I've just never played with a town's person that took that angle. It's pretty much come exclusively from scum. But the sample size is small.
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Post Post #5679 (isolation #444) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:29 pm

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In post 5672, morph the cat wrote:I am working on the world's largest "we fucking told yo so" banner to hold up next to all the dead townies that we fucking told you all were town, by the by.
Please spend more time on something constructive or we're going to lose. :( I need to reevaluate how I hunt.
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Post Post #5691 (isolation #445) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:35 pm

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Have we had any full claims besides the dead people.
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Post Post #5706 (isolation #446) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:45 pm

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In post 5697, catboi wrote:
In post 5674, Bell wrote:Except for Catboi.
Tbh, I really do think they're scum for how they defended themselves. I know that's silly tho. I've just never played with a town's person that took that angle. It's pretty much come exclusively from scum. But the sample size is small.
"When I am accused, I try to pick at the reasoning of my accuser. Granted, that was a training hall, and my goal was to encourage further thinking, but the idea remains the same. If I am to understand the intentions of my accuser I must try to understand their thinking. In this instance I was being spuriously accused by a squire, but given the circumstances I decided his belief was owed to stubbornness and Villainy."

"Why do you continue to slip like an evasive rogue and not answer my questions which I asked? Such things really ought to be simple to do."
Hmm. What are your questions? It's not like I can't answer all of them. I'm town.
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Post Post #5711 (isolation #447) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:51 pm

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I looked back. I've answered all your questions by stating that I was pressuring you largely for bullshit to see how you'd react. You have past meta of asking questions as a defense as town. But not in the same strain of "proving yourself" though there is something to be said about aking a back seat and just seeing if you actually can produce good reads.
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Post Post #5713 (isolation #448) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:52 pm

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No hood.
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Post Post #5751 (isolation #449) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:18 pm

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I'm somewhat familiar with firebringer, but I've never played with scum them if I recall. I know that their play here was not a significant deviation from their typical play. But I find them difficult to read and from a glance or two of their meta forever ago I felt they were pretty good at being scum so I felt it woud be a good use of my time to push here.

I already answered that question, anecdotally, I associate players that try to prove themselves or reach for an argument when a counter assault or defensive attitude would do to rarely come from town. You linked a game where you went systematically through the flaws in judgment of another player as town, which cooled my heels some. This isn't really going to be a day phase where I dictate anything and I'll probably just openly speculate since I can take a back seat for now.
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Post Post #5754 (isolation #450) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:20 pm

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In post 5749, catboi wrote:
In post 5711, Bell wrote:I looked back. I've answered all your questions by stating that I was pressuring you largely for bullshit to see how you'd react. You have past meta of asking questions as a defense as town. But not in the same strain of "proving yourself" though there is something to be said about aking a back seat and just seeing if you actually can produce good reads.
"I still wanted to hear about your theory on the replacement, but as I already had my answer at the ready, I'll simply tell it to you: The pup of fire greatly prefers to play as the Villain, as a Hero he is prone to growing bored and losing interest. Him doing so on this quest is, while not Heroic in spirit, highly indicative of a soul aligned with the light."


"Anyway. Your demeanor in this quest is greatly different from how it was in your past life as a villain. That was some time ago, but I would be surprised to see such a dramatic change in your style. I think your soul is likely that of a Hero, but you are like that young squire, frustratingly tunnel-visioned. I think in your heart you wish for me to be a Villain and as such are interpreting everything I do to be with Villainous motive, without considering what a Hero would do. You ought to step back and spend time in contemplation. Likewise, I plan to retreat to my study shortly to begin my examination of the Adventure Logs."
Yeah..my scum game sucks once you see my town play I get sorted within a few days typically. :(
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Post Post #5863 (isolation #451) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:04 am

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UNVOTE:

Lmk when it's my turn. My brain's on fire. So I'm taking a break from thinking.
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Post Post #5956 (isolation #452) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:53 am

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Catboi you already dropped the role play. :(
Did you ever answer my question about the name thing?
I’ll repeat it. Was your role and role play on entry linked in regards to your name?
Chara named you Hans.
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Post Post #5960 (isolation #453) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:56 am

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Your favorite catboi is an assassin?
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Post Post #5965 (isolation #454) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:03 am

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In post 5963, notscience wrote:Bell how mad are you I’m townier than you
Nobody is townier than me.
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Post Post #5969 (isolation #455) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:05 am

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In post 5966, morph the cat wrote:
In post 5965, Bell wrote:
In post 5963, notscience wrote:Bell how mad are you I’m townier than you
Nobody is townier than me.
Oh yeah?
In post 5897, morph the cat wrote:I am pleased to inform everyone that not science has been added to the "no fucking touching you jerkfaces" pool.

Notsci, be proud. If it was 3P with you and Bell crossed, we'd hammer Bell instantly levels of townread you have earned.
Yeah.
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Post Post #5971 (isolation #456) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:07 am

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I do not have a favorite catboy. I am deeply embarrassed given I must have seen hundreds of them by now.
I poked unwnd to get the t3 claim rolling but no reply.
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Post Post #5979 (isolation #457) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:16 am

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We never got t3’s full info. It sounds like unwnd is making the rounds, why not wait?
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Post Post #5983 (isolation #458) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:21 am

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Why do I get irrationally mad when someone just drops a town read or scum read with no explanation.
I even get mad:frustrated when I’m scum and someone does it.
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Post Post #5984 (isolation #459) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:21 am

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Actually it makes more sense for me to be mad when someone does it as scum if they’re right.
But I’m town here. Maybe I’m a control freak.
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Post Post #5985 (isolation #460) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:22 am

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Did you get an answer t3? Unwnd responded to me in discord so he’s around.
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Post Post #5989 (isolation #461) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:27 am

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In post 5986, notscience wrote:
In post 5983, Bell wrote:Why do I get irrationally mad when someone just drops a town read or scum read with no explanation.
I even get mad:frustrated when I’m scum and someone does it.
Town.
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Post Post #5991 (isolation #462) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:30 am

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I told him specifically that t3 needed him. So he has his full attention because unwnd loves me the best.
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Post Post #5996 (isolation #463) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:34 am

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Uh, catboi was saying that they weee town reading shea, but that t3 is ruining the read with their play.
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Post Post #5999 (isolation #464) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:36 am

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.....
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Post Post #6004 (isolation #465) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:37 am

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That’s clearly a 4 leaves.
There is no lion.
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Post Post #6007 (isolation #466) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:38 am

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No. We have a flipped necromancer, hexer and dark hunter.
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Post Post #6010 (isolation #467) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:40 am

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In post 6008, morph the cat wrote:LMFAO i'm dumb ignore me.
I’m getting mixed messages.
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Post Post #6011 (isolation #468) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:41 am

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If t3 is town this is quite the windfall for scum that’s inexplicable.
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Post Post #6013 (isolation #469) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:43 am

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Nah, I knew what you meant. Guilotina has a fondness for the bleach lion plushie.
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Post Post #6023 (isolation #470) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:54 am

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Bell (Conrad)Night 0 attack: 0 damage.
Night 1 attack: 0 damage
Night 2 Attack: 0 damage
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Post Post #6027 (isolation #471) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:58 am

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If you want more info I'll be here on and off while doing other stuff.
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Post Post #6032 (isolation #472) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:01 am

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In post 6023, Bell wrote:
Bell (Conrad)Night 0 attack: 0 damage.
Night 1 attack: 0 damage
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In case folk missed it.
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Post Post #6098 (isolation #473) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 6091, morph the cat wrote:Somewhere in the distant background, two "baaaaaahhhh"s are heard from Notsci and Bell.
I had my shot and I missed. Time to be a good sheep.
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Post Post #6100 (isolation #474) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:55 pm

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In post 6097, catboi wrote:...I have just received FURTHER CLARIFICATION from the moderator that my elemental damage DOES NOT ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING when first applied, it merely adds a stack of "Burn" or "Freeze" to the target, and the debuff is not applied until I activate those stacks via using my third ability. The role PM is worded INCREDIBLY confusingly and this was not clear to me in the slightest based on the way it was written. I assume Firebringer did not understand the nuances of the role either, which is why he softclaimed the way he did on day 2, and why Artemiana never claimed any sort of debuff.


I apologize for full claiming out of turn, but the ambiguity in my role has forced me to out to correct these misunderstandings.


I am actually UNBELIEVABLY frustrated right now with how this has all had to go down. I'll probably be taking a rain check for the rest of the night. Hopefully I'll be able to think about this game without getting pissed off tomorrow.
If you would like feedback, if you're scum you're doing a good job of making me feel wrong.
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Post Post #6130 (isolation #475) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:02 pm

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VOTE: S_S

Bahhh
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Post Post #6133 (isolation #476) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:04 pm

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Morph's gunna die in 2 nights and you'll have plenty of time to convince us he's wrong then.
Hell, with me, you won't even need to convince. I just think you're town.
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Post Post #6137 (isolation #477) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:07 pm

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In post 6135, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:The problem, bell, is Sigmun and Notty are in the green tier and I'm in the orange tier and that's a game loss

so I'd like to lose the game now please
Notty migh make it to end game bu if sigmund does he scum team deserves to lose and I have no idea how they got this far.
Well, I do. Kill happy town.
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Post Post #6145 (isolation #478) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:15 pm

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Well, I don’t agree and think you’ll be fine lld.
There’s a lot of dead people between now and when you’re going to get suspected.
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Post Post #6154 (isolation #479) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 6146, catboi wrote:i lied

i can't pull myself away from the website

i'm an addict

anyway i get why you think my role sounds scummy

but like

i'd never bother claiming it this way as scum

i'd just make something else up

and i feel like that should be obvious




but i joined this game to mess around and have fun and this game has suddenly become very much not that in the past few hours

so rather than waste my time continuing to try to read all 200 pages

just stack damage on me tonight so i can die and flip town and get out of here



i have 3 hp left, go figure out who you want to murder me
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Post Post #6160 (isolation #480) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:22 pm

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*ahem* no need to Catastrophize :wink:
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Post Post #6162 (isolation #481) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:22 pm

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I’m blacklisted now aren’t I.
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Post Post #6170 (isolation #482) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:24 pm

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In post 6166, notscience wrote:I would like to have five votes on me by day end, the way my role works I can go over my actual health limit. These is a catch but obv I’m not telling sxum how to deal with me.
Sure thing.
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Post Post #6182 (isolation #483) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:30 pm

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That is definitely hyperbole.
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Post Post #6186 (isolation #484) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 6184, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 6182, Bell wrote:That is definitely hyperbole.
It's literally not.
This is the most unfun moment of your life?
This one?
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Post Post #6189 (isolation #485) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:32 pm

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*whispers* catfight *whispers*
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Post Post #6232 (isolation #486) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:59 pm

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:( everyone.
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Post Post #6268 (isolation #487) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:25 pm

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What exactly am I supposed to say to this? :?
It’s not my role to intercede in these kind of disputes.
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Post Post #6270 (isolation #488) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:26 pm

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We could always just discuss their reads and try to make the elimination as airtight guaranteed scum as we can get it.
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Post Post #6271 (isolation #489) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:27 pm

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That’s my preference anyway.
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Post Post #6281 (isolation #490) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:34 pm

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Eh, it’s my problem that I’m uncomfortable with these kinds of conversations.
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Post Post #6292 (isolation #491) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:39 pm

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I think that the status quo buddied and manipulated murdercat. A lot of their moves in retrospect seemed designed to turn the screws on someone and then once they got the response they wanted they tended to lighten up. I’m not really hundred percent on it. I don’t have meta, I remember them being a lot more...toxic? As town. I’m using the wrong word there. Argumentative might be better.
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Post Post #6297 (isolation #492) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:43 pm

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I’m not sure on something_smart still. Something feels off but not enough for me to ever say something about him. I feel of the theee in your kill list he’s the most likely to not be scum out of them. But I also don’t understand his approach to players this game.

He zeroed in to an illogical argument I made (I don’t put much stock into wagon examinations) but I’m not sure if he was just trying to investigate whether something was off or he saw weakness and went for it.
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Post Post #6298 (isolation #493) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:44 pm

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Basically he feels almost the same as I’m used to him being. He even popped up when the mechanic discussion got going which is very inline with his town play.
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Post Post #6301 (isolation #494) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:46 pm

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His “eh, I’ll just die reaction” is in character. But I don’t get the motivation thing, mostly because I can’t relate to it. I try whether I’m gunna die or not.
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Post Post #6302 (isolation #495) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:46 pm

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No, you really haven’t been awol at all notty.
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Post Post #6307 (isolation #496) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:48 pm

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I think it’s worth questioning him and seeing if you can find another explanation that fits his play.
My last post was an invitation to explain some of your approach, mindset and what you were thinking and feeling at those particular times.

Which events stood out to you? What did you do with them?
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Post Post #6311 (isolation #497) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:50 pm

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I think catboi just repped out because he has his own opinions about what is and is not okay mod stuff or maybe he felt embarrassed or maybe he didn’t like us.
I dunno.
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Post Post #6313 (isolation #498) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:50 pm

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I don’t really feel it reflects on us though. Or his alignment.
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Post Post #6317 (isolation #499) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:52 pm

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Believe it or not I actually crumbed this game but I only did it because of all the shit I got when I wasn’t screaming from the roof tops what my results were and people got confused.
I’m very grumpy and defensive about that still. :(
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Post Post #6325 (isolation #500) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:55 pm

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This game was already 250 pages. Why
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Post Post #6339 (isolation #501) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:05 pm

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We just had a convo about trying to be nice instead of kind. There’s a place for nice though.
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Post Post #6344 (isolation #502) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:10 pm

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S_S what were you thinking when you were asking me about the someone off the wagon must be scum opinion?
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Post Post #6348 (isolation #503) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:15 pm

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I will state however at end game if notty and I somehow make it all the way there (really don’t think so)
I am going to close my eyes and hammer lld.
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Post Post #6351 (isolation #504) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:19 pm

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Why is he wrong about farkran?
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Post Post #6358 (isolation #505) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:23 pm

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Noraa with the save. I was really worried morph was town there for a second.
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Post Post #6360 (isolation #506) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:25 pm

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I’m not quite sure why you’d yell at me since the obvious reason would be that I was scum? Have I pulled that far ahead in your reads that you just don’t doubt it at all?
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Post Post #6415 (isolation #507) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:16 pm

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In post 6407, Noraa wrote:Wtf is a stack? this role pm makes zero sense but I have fire star. ice star and singularity?????????????
You could read the description Noraa instead of asking in thread?

pedit: looks like you did.
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Post Post #6417 (isolation #508) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:18 pm

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Yes, I think, strangely, that the catboi/Whitefire/Noraa slot is town. It was S_S that first brought up that Whitefire preferred being scum and then Catboi argued the same.
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Post Post #6420 (isolation #509) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:20 pm

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I am a little uncomfortable that Noraa acted clueless in thread since, as has been mentioned many, many a time. She likes to scum clear herself out the gate as scum.
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Post Post #6421 (isolation #510) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:20 pm

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On the otherhand she doesn't sound miserable and she's probably played more games of mafia than I have at this point. So who knows where she's at in terms of readability.
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Post Post #6424 (isolation #511) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:22 pm

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In post 6422, Something_Smart wrote:I'm chuckling to myself now.

I'll explain why in due time.
Why do you sound like a supervillain.
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Post Post #6434 (isolation #512) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:32 pm

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I'm arguably neither dead nor alive.
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Post Post #6437 (isolation #513) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:35 pm

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Well actually they confirmed that Morph tried to protect Art but made an error.
It's totally within the realm of possibility that Morph had decided to protect them but their teammates pulled a coup and all attacked Art in an effort to kill Morph.
But they had forgotten
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Cats have nine lives.
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Post Post #6439 (isolation #514) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:36 pm

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I'm going to bed now.
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Post Post #6585 (isolation #515) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:26 am

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VOTE: T3
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Post Post #6587 (isolation #516) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:28 am

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Post Post #6633 (isolation #517) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:42 am

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Flea, T3. Do you have like, reads.
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Post Post #6638 (isolation #518) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:05 am

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That makes things a lot easier since I doubt you'd lie about Farkran as either alignmen.
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Post Post #6641 (isolation #519) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:07 am

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So what did you guys talk about in your PT?
I haven't really been paying attention to Farkran in terms of what he has to say about you. Farkran is there anything you'd like to say about S_S that I missed?
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Post Post #6643 (isolation #520) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:09 am

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In post 6642, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6638, Bell wrote:That makes things a lot easier since I doubt you'd lie about Farkran as either alignmen.
That is probably true, but I don't think it matters much since I'm likely flipping before him in any event.
A true statement regardless if you're town or scum. That's a grammatical quirk probably.
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Post Post #6661 (isolation #521) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:28 am

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Hey just so you know, nobody would have cracked that code.
If you died, it's the rare scum player that would have counter claimed.
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Post Post #6672 (isolation #522) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:39 am

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*stares up at the sky*



@Flea, no. Just your opinions on everyone.
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Post Post #6692 (isolation #523) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:22 am

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In post 6690, Bingle wrote:
In post 6355, notscience wrote:Reread is on my agenda. Just don’t know when I’ll get to it.

Ninja
Morph is literally mod confirmed town.
Technically incorrect. Morph could be a scum bodyguard who submitted both a bodyguard and a nightkill on the claimed town cop in the hope that the mod would mod error and misprocess the action then choose to confirm the bodyguard action as a fix to the gamestate. It sounds like the kind of gambit scum cabd would come up with.
Excuse me but I already made this joke.
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Post Post #6744 (isolation #524) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:10 am

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I'm never going to live down those 2 games I repped out of am I.
To be clear, I replaced out because the middle school I work at had opened as Covid restrictions were lifted and I couldn't handle both. I'm on (paid) vacation until august for summer.
I won't lie and say that it didn't make it harder on me to roll scum as there's just a greater cognitive load, but I do not replace out of slots solely because I roll a scum slot.
If I did, I'd just replace out instantly, I'm not unethical enough to play the plausible deniability game.
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Post Post #6747 (isolation #525) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:11 am

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So are we still killing S_S
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Post Post #6761 (isolation #526) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:19 am

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/:
Sure. He might just have the tone down as scum.

I do largely agree with notty that S_S is hitting a lot of the town notes he usually hits.

VOTE: S_S
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Post Post #6764 (isolation #527) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:21 am

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This argument is silly.
Tells don't work.
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Post Post #6862 (isolation #528) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:33 pm

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Real talk. If Notty is scum I will go find Titus's corpse, dig her up, disembowel her and eat the hat she choked on when NDMath flipped town.
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Post Post #6877 (isolation #529) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:58 pm

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I think Cabd really wants S_S to die and while I'm not utterly sold on it, he's not changing his mind.
So I'm ready to end the day when he's ready to end the day.

I'm not going to say much else about the other people I want poked since there's little reason to when at least half of them will be dead tonight.
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Post Post #6895 (isolation #530) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:24 pm

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In case you missed it T3, please full claim.
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Post Post #6897 (isolation #531) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:41 pm

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Hi Noraa.
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Post Post #6904 (isolation #532) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:05 pm

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Sure. I could be scum.
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Post Post #6910 (isolation #533) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:08 pm

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Oh, I'm moody because I missed on murderkitten and I feel some depression something ion It's sort of on and off with me, sometimes I just have times of brain boiling and anhedonia with no apparent cause.
My guess is a lack of exercise and sun.
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Post Post #6912 (isolation #534) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:10 pm

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I'm on break from work till around august. My job is cushy.
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Post Post #6920 (isolation #535) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:55 pm

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VOTE: Flea
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Post Post #6953 (isolation #536) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:40 am

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Q. If T3 is scum how come his team isn't helping him with a fake claim.
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Post Post #6954 (isolation #537) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:43 am

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Also, why is he eli telling.
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Post Post #6958 (isolation #538) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:43 am

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He's posting everywhere but here.
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Post Post #6962 (isolation #539) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:47 am

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In post 6955, Dwlee99 wrote:Bell, pretend you're evil for a second. Now try to figure out a believable fake claim. Might be hard. I don't even know if there is an obviously evil flavor cause I don't know the source material, and I imagine other people don't either.
I mean, I'd wiki it. Then have a minor melt down due to all the moving parts and beg my scum team for help.
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Post Post #6963 (isolation #540) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:51 am

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Condescension is my personal go to when I'm scum, so I don't find the emotion there very compelling. Though Flea has a point about their actions maybe not lining up with that.
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Post Post #6987 (isolation #541) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 9:25 am

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I want to kill T3 badly at this point. The only bike ride he's on at this point is thread avoidance.
I'm gunna be sad if he turns out to be town.
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Post Post #7002 (isolation #542) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:23 am

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In post 6992, T3 wrote:I am immune from all nonmortal damage.
Is it really that hard just to say, this is my role, these are my abilities, this is what I(or my predecessor) did Night 1, night 2, etc.
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Post Post #7004 (isolation #543) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:26 am

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Also, I wanted to state for the record Dunnstrall, since I don't want you coming down on me later, that I have an ability that uses 0 SP too.
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Post Post #7016 (isolation #544) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:39 pm

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You heard em.

Let’s end the day. Debate over.
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Post Post #7021 (isolation #545) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:08 pm

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In post 7018, Dwlee99 wrote:Holy crap you have three heads and don't sign? No wonder nothing makes sense
Morph the cat is 2 people: Fferylit and Cabd.
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Post Post #7022 (isolation #546) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:10 pm

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Oh VOTE: Vote 2. ?

don't know what this is and not counting it -b

update: ah nevermind
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Post Post #7058 (isolation #547) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:28 pm

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Hiya. I told you catboi was scum.
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Post Post #7059 (isolation #548) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:28 pm

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Wait was that Catboi.
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Post Post #7063 (isolation #549) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:29 pm

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In post 7053, notscience wrote:kill gamma

fuck people ditching doomed slots
LLD got banned for two weeks >.>
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Post Post #7070 (isolation #550) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:32 pm

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Are we going to speed eliminate Gamma or
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Post Post #7077 (isolation #551) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:33 pm

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VFP is VFP btw.
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Post Post #7087 (isolation #552) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:37 pm

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Chara defended Flea's meta and white fire's meta. So he's probably town.

Dunstrall clear imo.
yes, I'm going through the motions. I know.
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Post Post #7118 (isolation #553) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:56 pm

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I have zero objections to the plan. I figure we'll hit at least one more scum and be well positioned for elo at worst.
If you'd like to be safe we could tally all the damage that occurred to keep our ducks in a row in case of a blind side later. T
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Post Post #7120 (isolation #554) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:00 pm

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I am happy to delay a win to ensure a win. Like Illicit.
All that means is doing the documents before each hammer.
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Post Post #7122 (isolation #555) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:03 pm

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Eh, after death curse I'm not as allergic to doing this kind of thing.

S_S took two damage.
I did not take any damage.

Is there a downside to documenting this that I can't think of?
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Post Post #7125 (isolation #556) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 7123, notscience wrote:no i m just sparing gamma
Gamma is fully capable of just checking out. I mean he can't have expected to rep into a town slot. I think he was just doing everyone a favor.
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Post Post #7135 (isolation #557) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:13 pm

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Such is life. I sucked too.
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Post Post #7139 (isolation #558) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:32 pm

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In post 7138, VFP wrote:Hello!
Ego post.
Town
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Post Post #7140 (isolation #559) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:34 pm

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Just kidding. Thanks for repping into a scum slot so we could get the show on the road.
Feel free to take a nice relaxing break.
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Post Post #7152 (isolation #560) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:48 am

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VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #7155 (isolation #561) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:56 am

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Cornered scum is cornered scum. They needed to elevate themselves higher in the reads list at a faster rate and they needed better fake claims. If I was scum here I would've been pretty overwhelmed and my brain would have probably boiled out my ears when Titus and NDmath died and I had nowhere to go.
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Post Post #7157 (isolation #562) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:01 am

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We can afford the miss and it confirms Farkran if we're wrong which just narrows it down further. As someone else mentioned the scum team's hp chip is likely depleted putting them at a disadvantage.
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Post Post #7162 (isolation #563) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:10 am

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Bingle, Notty, Farkran, and I.

Dwelee, Sigmund, Ircher, Dunstrall, Wheme. -> Bingle dies. -> Farkran Dies.

I think no mater what Notty and I end up in Elo with scum. Just due to chip from town narrowing the bottom pool out.
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Post Post #7164 (isolation #564) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:13 am

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I forgot that there were six mafia again.
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Post Post #7166 (isolation #565) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:15 am

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I mean, is Farkran or Bingle going to think that one of us as scum thought it was a good idea to kill the other when we're this sure we're both town.
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Post Post #7168 (isolation #566) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:16 am

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Hi Gamma, thanks for repping in.
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Post Post #7193 (isolation #567) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:53 am

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You know I think this is the first time I've seen a player hydra or otherwise with more than a thousand posts.
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Post Post #7196 (isolation #568) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:54 am

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That's a scum role yes?
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Post Post #7197 (isolation #569) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:55 am

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I'd be impressed if Wheme came up with that as scum.
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Post Post #7200 (isolation #570) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:58 am

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I do not like that second gif.
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Post Post #7201 (isolation #571) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:59 am

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Also, 0 hours of sleep tonight, yay!
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Post Post #7286 (isolation #572) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:36 am

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One left.
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Post Post #7290 (isolation #573) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 am

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Must be scum
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Post Post #7291 (isolation #574) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 am

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Are we full claiming now?
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Post Post #7292 (isolation #575) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:49 am

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Because they just killed dwee it’s impossible for scum to win
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Post Post #7293 (isolation #576) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:50 am

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VOTE: S_S

> Ircher

> dunstrall

> sigmund.

> gg.
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Post Post #7297 (isolation #577) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:54 am

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In post 7294, Dunnstral wrote:If you still think I can be mafia you aren't looking at the game very hard
I don’t need to because the game is over.
*slouch*
It’s not me and it’s not Notty.

S_S and farkran can’t both be scum.
Bingle is still alive etc.

Also, I was wrong on LLD, woops.
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Post Post #7299 (isolation #578) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:55 am

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I forgot you existed wheme.
I’m sorry.
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Post Post #7301 (isolation #579) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:56 am

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Did the mod say they were confirm town. Because otherwise they’re just extremely likely to be the protective but not 100% just 99%
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Post Post #7307 (isolation #580) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:58 am

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You have a very good point Wheme.
Holy shit I forrgot chara was playing too.
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Post Post #7310 (isolation #581) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:01 pm

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Nobody. I can’t attack.
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Post Post #7311 (isolation #582) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:02 pm

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Also, chara’s name is chara.
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Post Post #7324 (isolation #583) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:08 pm

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Ircher, chara, wheme, full claim.
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Post Post #7330 (isolation #584) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:12 pm

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*looks at chara*
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Post Post #7335 (isolation #585) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:14 pm

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I played my role to perfection.
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Post Post #7343 (isolation #586) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:23 pm

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I’m Conrad. I can check to see what someone’s name is. I could not act night 0.

Murderkitty is murderkitty,
Ircher is ircher
VFP is VFP
CHARA is chara.
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Post Post #7348 (isolation #587) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:25 pm

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Yup!
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Post Post #7357 (isolation #588) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:41 pm

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If this was earthsea you’d all be dead by now.
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Post Post #7373 (isolation #589) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:34 pm

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Let’s go, fast night.
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Post Post #7379 (isolation #590) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:56 pm

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In post 7376, notscience wrote:Bell will you be around in like an hour? I wanna spitball before we end day
Sure, though my brain is fried today.
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Post Post #7381 (isolation #591) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:58 pm

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I love to ruminate, it's my favorite passtime along with crying and feeling nothing.
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Post Post #7382 (isolation #592) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:59 pm

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Did anyone claim to kill or strike at Dwe or would like to claim that they did.
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Post Post #7386 (isolation #593) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:06 pm

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I feel like Chara is pretty accommodating to others and if they don't show interest or initiative they won't either. I mean in regards to others, not themselves. This isn't me arguing that Chara is scum I think the solve is relatively simple.
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Post Post #7388 (isolation #594) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:08 pm

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Aesthetic scum targeted by a loyal neighborizer would just auto kill S_S right?
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Post Post #7389 (isolation #595) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:09 pm

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I don't even know what you're thinking about Notty.
Come back when you said you were gunna come back and we'll talk it over for a little.
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Post Post #7392 (isolation #596) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:12 pm

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Fast night and odd kill implies trapped scum more often than not.
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Post Post #7394 (isolation #597) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:21 pm

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In post 7393, Bingle wrote:Has someone put together a list of role claims?
The scum team has kept you around just for this reason.
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Post Post #7396 (isolation #598) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:28 pm

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It was a nonsense joke.
I think the idea was that there must be some reason he's still alive and instead of going with the easy, actually Bingle is deep scum with Unwnd. I went with that the universe is absurd.
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Post Post #7402 (isolation #599) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:49 pm

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Nope.
Even if Notty comes up with a plausible alternative it just might shuffle who we kill next as second most plausible.

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