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Post Post #329 (isolation #0) » Fri May 28, 2021 11:37 am

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(Full disclosure: I didn't get a N0 action in because of the requirements to have actions be submitted through discord and me being slightly discord inept. I needed to ask unwnd for their discord, send them a friend request, and wait for them to accept, and by the time all of this was done, N0 had ended. Is a bit inconvenient but oh well. It didn't help that there was a time where I had no power, so it took me longer to log in and view these requirements, either. The mod counted me as 'idle' last night as a result.)
In post 11, morph the cat wrote:greetings gentlebeings!
Hi! <3
In post 12, Bingle wrote:Hah, you missed your chance to kill me. I am now unkillable.
I believe it. :P
In post 22, Chara wrote:hello everyone!
Hi Chara! Long time no see!
In post 23, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm not in a good mental space rn, so I'm gonna be posting when I am.
Take your time. <3
In post 26, morph the cat wrote:I really want you to be town this game!
STD was town the last game he and I played in therefore he must be town this game, too. :P
In post 50, jjh927 wrote:This playerlist is fantastic, especially for a large
Indeed! Granted, great playerlist does not necessarily a great game make, but with luck it'll be a good game. <3
In post 52, Anya wrote:
In post 50, jjh927 wrote:This playerlist is fantastic, especially for a large
you can't just buddy the whole playerlist like that you have to go one by one wrestler
Like so. *points to my post quoting one member at a time* :P
In post 57, Bingle wrote:There's likely a SK
I doubt that. We know there's a third party but third party = SK is incredibly unoriginal. It's far more likely to be a neutral that's not inherently bad or good for either faction.
In post 109, morph the cat wrote:In the spirit of that one Mastina post about helping advance dialogue by stating WHY you disagree with ABC instead of countering with DEF, Shea:
Oh hey someone actually read that. <3
In post 119, notscience wrote:
But if you saw that
Not one, but two did in fact
Replace as scum- cat.
This is beautiful. <3
In post 138, Toogeloo wrote:Anyways. I have a pretty questionable innate action, and even more questionably use SP skill.
Oh yeah 3/4 of my SP skills are pretty questionable. I can, skill-wise, see them potentially being, so to speak, "Difficult But Awesome", to use the tvtropes term, where if I used them properly to their max they would be very rewarding, but if used poorly are nothing but incredibly anti-town. (And because this role is given to ME, I can't see me using them as being pro-town at all. Never hand mastina any role resembling a vig.) And the one skill that isn't questionable, requires the use of one of said questionable skills first.

Given that, probably sticking to my non-SP skill.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #1) » Fri May 28, 2021 12:01 pm

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In post 193, morph the cat wrote:(Although in fairness it worked out for dumb reasons for your among us town)
#carried :P
In post 217, unwnd wrote:
MOD EVENT
(2) Ignore the lake, moving on with your adventure


> You decide this is no time for relaxation! You must continue to climb the tree, no matter the expense. You ignore the lake and march forward.
I'm pretty sure the votes were universally for fishing, not ignoring it. Game must be bastard.

:P
In post 235, Thestatusquo wrote:Joining this game was a bad idea.
When is it ever a
good
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In post 278, morph the cat wrote:still 7 scum to find in total.
Seven? I'm pretty damn sure there's only six scum in this game.
In post 331, Dunnstral wrote:By the way town had to confirm by adding him on discord
I missed that.

The role PM had, in small text that I missed, the confirmation method. Which I only now saw because I only now went back to recheck in an effort to prove you wrong (when it turns out you weren't in fact actually wrong).

I instead confirmed by PMing unwnd my paraphrased summary of my role. This was apparently sufficient for unwnd because unwnd never told me that I was confirming with the wrong method, and the game moved forward in spite of the apparently incorrect confirmation method which I didn't know was the incorrect confirmation method.

unwnd started N0, and it was only then that I noticed the discord rule.

And then I said that I needed unwnd's discord because I missed that it was included in the initial role PM.

unwnd sent it to me, in a new PM.

I then added unwnd.

But by the time unwnd accepted, D1 had started, meaning I missed N0.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #2) » Fri May 28, 2021 12:14 pm

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In post 343, mastina wrote:The role PM had, in small text that I missed, the confirmation method. Which I only now saw because I only now went back to recheck in an effort to prove you wrong (when it turns out you weren't in fact actually wrong).

I instead confirmed by PMing unwnd my paraphrased summary of my role. This was apparently sufficient for unwnd because unwnd never told me that I was confirming with the wrong method, and the game moved forward in spite of the apparently incorrect confirmation method which I didn't know was the incorrect confirmation method.

unwnd started N0, and it was only then that I noticed the discord rule.

And then I said that I needed unwnd's discord because I missed that it was included in the initial role PM.

unwnd sent it to me, in a new PM.

I then added unwnd.

But by the time unwnd accepted, D1 had started, meaning I missed N0.
To wit: unwnd sent me my PM on Wednesday circa 8 pm (not going into exact timestamps here, just general ballpark so you have some idea of chronology).

The role PM had the entirety of the role PM in normal-sized area text. As in, area=(I'm assuming the name at the top is the class?), flavor description, list of my abilities, etc.

After the area tags had ended, in small text, was the confirmation method which I missed.

Thursday, vaguely near 4 am (not going into exact timestamps here, just general ballpark so you have some idea of chronology), I PMed unwnd with my paraphrase of my understanding of my role as my confirmation method.

A couple hours later, unwnd sent the N0 message to the entire playerlist--y'all got it so you should know the timestamp on that to know when it was.

I responded to that message from unwnd, saying I needed to know what his discord was for a N0 action. I said that I looked for unwnd's discord in the rules, the mechanics, etc., looking over them and couldn't find unwnd listing their discord within so I didn't know how to. (Again, to reiterate, I did not see that the initial role PM included this information because it was in small text after the area code that the entirety of the role PM was in.) This was Thursday, approximately 12 hours after my initial confirmation PM nearish 4 pm.

An hour later, unwnd sent me the info in a PM.

Then Friday at 3 am or so (not going into exact timestamps here, just general ballpark so you have some idea of chronology), I sent the friend request to unwnd.

unwnd accepted this request at the same time unwnd started D1. (Well, a few minutes before, but basically at the same time.)

I can't make this shit up.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #3) » Fri May 28, 2021 12:35 pm

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In post 351, morph the cat wrote:Unless you're claiming town-siding third party, it's 7.
Oh what the hell I'm probably not any worse off for claiming it since I bet the playerlist would be able to tell I'm not town and would wagon me for that anyway where I'm damned if I do damned if I don't, wagoned for not being town if I don't claim, wagoned for not being town if I do. (Meaning there's a high chance I don't win here even tho I am in fact fully benign.)

I am the third party.

I'm an Arcanist.

My non-SP ability is Charm Eye. I target a player and they are Charmed. (No clue what Charmed means, my role PM doesn't specify.) Charming counts as a form of marking. (And is the only form of marking I have.)

My 1-SP ability is Chain Circle. I bind the target, negating all support done to them--useful for the town if I target scum, but harmful to the town if I target town, because it's by my understanding basically negating buffs to the target. Preventing scum buffs pro-town, preventing town buffs anti-town.

My 2-SP ability is Nerve Circle. I ensnare my target in a circle--anyone targeting that player takes 2 HP in damage. This basically turns my target into a form of PGO. Incredibly pro-town if I target a player scum target as it damages scum. Incredibly anti-town if I target a player town target.

My 3-SP ability is Curse Circle. I curse my target to be unable to be healed by utility abilities. Again, incredibly pro-town if I target scum to stop them from healing, but incredibly anti-town if I target town to stop them from healing.

My fourth ability, Dispel, 2-SP, is dispelling the curse circle. Doing so heals me for 2 HP.

My passive, Enlightenment, makes me gain 1 SP every time I successfully mark someone.

I win when I mark 5 players. (Which means had I gotten a N0 action in I could've won on D5 but now it's pushed back to D6 at the earliest.) A target doesn't need to be alive to count. So basically if nothing causes my marks to fail I automatically would win on D6 if I got five marks off.

But, *shrug*, "mastina just admitted to not being town", "mastina isn't town", "mastina could be lying", "mastina might end the game in a solo win", "mastina could be scum fakeclaiming 3p", etc. Pick your choice in ways where I'm guaranteed to die before I win, likely by the town elimination.

Since I've taken the "oh what the hell" approach of claiming, may as well go on to scumhunting now.
VOTE: morph the cat

Call it gut if you must but the insistence on hunting 3p as scum pinged me as probably being scum. As the third party in question who knew that I wasn't malevolent, the odd obsession with insisting the game had seven scum and hunting for seven scum stuck out as being a scum mindset.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #4) » Fri May 28, 2021 12:44 pm

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For what it's worth tho: I buy that Toogeloo is town here.
I think Farkran is town.
I THINK that jjh is town.
Bingle I lean town on.
I'm rusty on reading Chara but I
think
that this is its towngame.
LLD I owe a pass to regardless of her alignment but I will stick up for her "eliminate the hyperposter" as not being scum-indicative.
TSQ I think is town here.
notscience is a treasure--no read there but I don't want to eliminate notty just due to the smiles notty is giving me.
Dunnstral
could
be scum, but I'm thinking that he's town here.
Titus actually looks incredibly town to me here--the only reason to be had for alarm is that Titus normally doesn't look this town.

Bell: give him more time to post then I will be able to form an opinion but he's null right now. Itself a bit alarming as I'd expect him to be town but not glaring red flags yet.

I get minor scumpings from Anya but that could be playstyle.
Guillotina looks like scum but I'm well aware Guillotina almost always does.
Sigmund seems like a bit of a gimmicky alt but the gimmick looks like scum to me.

I think that's everyone I have thoughts on, should probably go back to form more reads as a show of good faith tho.
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Post Post #7520 (isolation #5) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:33 pm

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For the record.

I have made VERY lengthy thoughts about my rather notable disagreement with the modkill.

I did not quote anything--I literally was paraphrasing start to finish. Literally everything I was manually typing. No copy-pasting was done at all. None. Whatsoever. I was looking at the role PM in one tab, then manually switching to the other tab to type out what I thought was said in there in my own words, back and forth, over and over again. I was doing this every step of the way, start to finish, in being writing it in my own words.

Heck, I got modkilled for the chance of something which Toogeloo before me actually got. (One of the justifications for the modkill was giving me an unfair advantage where people would townread me for things that I couldn't fake. No less than two people townread Toogeloo for...things they thought he couldn't fake. And Toogeloo wasn't modkilled for HIS paraphrase, which set the precedence and mod inconsistency between how I was treated and how Toogeloo was treated.)

Something which there was actual tangible evidence that I wasn't actually going to receive, no less. Prior to my modkill there were no less than two or three players doubting my claim. People were doubting my claim, people were thinking I might be lying, so clearly I wasn't actually gaining that advantage. Whereas Toogeloo with his paraphrase actually DID gain that advantage. Yet I the player who wasn't receiving the benefit described and who paraphrased my role second, got modkilled when the player who did receive the benefit described and who paraphrased their role first, did not.

I have many many more words to say on the subject but suffice to say: it was not the correct one as I was in no way shape or form quoting. I was, genuinely, writing it in my own words. The fact that there was a 7-word string of identical words was literally coincidence. I hand-wrote out words in my own words that in 7 words matched the original role PM but literally anyone who's played mafia for long enough has in their paraphrase of writing their own role PM managed to do similar where they said the original words in their paraphrase. Especially when the original role PM already used maximum succinctness wording. The more succinct a role PM is, the harder it is to paraphrase it because instead of removing/changing/altering words, you instead need to add words.

Something I would like to point out that I still did! I was breaking up the words used, I altered the words used, I shifted the phrases around, removing some, adding some, I changed some wording, I changed the phrasing. It was start to finish a paraphrase.
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Post Post #7561 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:59 am

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In post 7523, unwnd wrote:I'm not engaging in that conversation, either of you. You wanna be right? Be right. I don't fucking care. Don't sign up for my games in the determined future. That's your freedom and I will not take that from you.
For the record--this is rather unprofessional of you. If there is valid criticism to be had, it is valid criticism to be had and rejecting it in this way is rather unprofessional. (It did not slip past my notice that after I raised my, valid, criticisms of the decision, you blocked me on discord.)

I recognize that once a modkill is made, it cannot be undone--that does not mean that the modkill was the correct decision and one which is above being debated.
mastina wrote:I would like to voice my disagreement with the decision as I WAS very clearly paraphrasing--it wasn't word for word. I said exact key phrases because they were key phrases.

I said,
I target a player and they are Charmed
, but I didn't say I CHOOSE a player and the target BECOMES Charmed.
The former is a paraphrase of the latter.

I did verbatim say
bind the target, negating all support to them
but there's no way to paraphrase that wording. Bind, Negating, and Support are all key words, and the words used to support them were not ones I had ways to find workarounds/substitutes for. I did however break up the info the best I could, in this case that I didn't say "choose a target". I left info out of the original ability.

I said
I ensnare my target in a circle--anyone targeting that player takes 2 HP in damage
, but I didn't say I CHOOSE a target, I didn't say "that player", I didn't say "and any user" (I said anyone, which is a paraphrase!), I didn't say "who targets that player" (I said anyone targeting, which is a paraphrase!), and I didn't mention "for that stratum" at all. I also said 2 HP in damage, when the original role just said "2 damage". I added a word not there, because that's part of paraphrasing.

I said
I curse my target to be unable to be healed by utility abilities
, which is about as far away from
Choose a target. You will enact a curse upon them, where they may no longer be healed by utility abilities.
as you can get. It has the words 'target' 'curse', and then 'be healed by utility abilities' in common, and that's it. And Curse, Healed, Utility Abilities, are all key words that I can't substitute because they are game terminology that I would expect to be pertinent and relevant.

I said
My fourth ability, Dispel, 2-SP, is dispelling the curse circle. Doing so heals me for 2 HP.
, which has basically nothing in common with
Dispel (2 SP) [Active, Self-Targeting] Choosing to dispel your Curse Circle will cause you to heal for 2 damage instead.
. I said Dispel, Curse Circle, and '2'; everything else is paraphrased including heals instead of heal and HP instead of damage.

I said
My passive, Enlightenment, makes me gain 1 SP every time I successfully mark someone.
, which is a paraphrase of
Enlightenment [Passive] - Each successful mark will grant you 1 additional SP.
I didn't say 'each', I said 'successfully' instead of successful, I said 'gain' instead of 'grant', I didn't say 'additional', etc.

I said
I win when I mark 5 players. (Which means had I gotten a N0 action in I could've won on D5 but now it's pushed back to D6 at the earliest.) A target doesn't need to be alive to count.
, both breaking up the wincon with the parenthesis and very much not being verbatim
You have an individual win condition where you will win once you have marked 5 or more players. A target does not need to be alive in order for them to count.
. I didn't say "I have an individual win condition where I win once I mark 5 or more players", I paraphrased it heavily. The second half is closer, but even there wasn't verbatim. I said "doesn't" instead of "does not", and said "to count" instead of "in order for them to count".

I think it was pretty apparent I was making a good faith to paraphrase because this wasn't something I copy pasted at all. I manually typed it all up, no copy-pasting at all, and did paraphrase it as much as humanly possible while retaining key information.


I realize the decision has been made and cannot be unmade--but I would again voice my disagreement with the decision as
I WAS paraphrasing, the evidence is right there in how much unwnd redacted from the image shown. If I wasn't, there wouldn't have been the need to redact anything at all.
If I wasn't paraphrasing, there wouldn't have been any black text there at all.


But I WAS paraphrasing. I literally paraphrased, even just from the black text, over half of the PM. If you go into exact wording, it was much much much MORE than half of the PM. I paraphrased more than I didn't. I didn't copy-paste anything, I hand-wrote it all out in my own wording.

Claiming the exact name of mechanics is something that shouldn't break the game--I was under the impression that not saying the correct verbiage of the abilities would lead to others who had similar abilities thinking I was lying about them, because they are verbiage.

Like say this was on a site that had never run a mafia game--phrases like 'cop', 'investigate', 'innocent', 'result failed', etc. Might genuinely be things that you're comparing to 'marking', 'healing', etc. They are phrases that should be okay to SAY if you are otherwise making efforts to not verbatim quote.

I was trying to retain key information and make it clear while also making it be done in my own wording. I can't substitute out words that might be important key information crucial to understanding what I am describing. Like, I don't even know what marks do. I don't even know what curses do. I don't even know what supports are. I don't know any of that--so I have no gauge for what is 'forbidden' to say and what isn't forbidden to say.

If the game relies on you not saying certain phrases from your role when claiming, and requires you to be modkilled when you say those phrases but otherwise are stating things in your own words--that is poor design.

Especially since scum should have that sort of info available to them in fakeclaims.

There shouldn't be any advantage had in saying a phrase like 'mark', 'heal', 'support', etc.


I would like to even further back this by pointing out: I was under the impression what I did was okay, because someone else did similar earlier:
In post 138, Toogeloo wrote:unwnd is totally stoned face for this. I joked if I should roll a d20 for a skill check on my night action... Didn't even get a "lol" out of them.

Anyways. I have a pretty questionable innate action, and even more questionably use SP skill.

My innate skill is I can check people's current HP. I checked Save The Dragons last night (random.org). They have 3 HP. Comparatively, I have 5 HP.

My other ability, which costs 2 SP is to check a target and see if they are using SP as well the same night. I didn't use it last night.

My "class," is called Sovereign. I'm royalty or something.
Toogeloo wasn't modkilled for this. He was paraphrasing, but he used words like 'skill', 'innate', 'action', 'SP', 'check a target', etc.

Why was my offense modkill-worthy but Toogeloo's wasn't?

unwnd defended his decision to modkill me with,
unwnd wrote:you were a special designed role with certain phrasings and mechanics that were special to this game
claiming exact verbatim verifies mechanics and phrasings that could either confirm you are telling the truth
or give you an unfair advantage
And yet Toogeloo wasn't modkilled by this logic.

Toogeloo is a special designed role with certain phrasings and mechanics that were special to this game, and he claimed some of them verbatim, verifying mechanics and phrasings confirming that he was telling the truth.

In fact, at least two players townread Toogeloo specifically for this. I can point to morph the cat's townread on Toogeloo and its later backing, as well as Farkran here doing similar.

I was modkilled for the CHANCE I gained an unfair advantage, when Toogeloo who did this before I did actually GAINED said alleged unfair advantage and
wasn't
modkilled.

I again reiterate that I am aware that what is done cannot be undone.
But I will state again it was a very poor decision--one I am apparently meant to go to you, MariaR, about.
MariaR's response wrote:After reading over a post in question I was contacted by the mod and co-mod of a game asking for permission to modkill a player and after reading over the post and talking to the mod for I want to say around half an hour came to said choice that said post did 2 main things leading to the ok of a mod kill:

A) Make direct quotes from the role PM in question
B) Give an unfair advantage to the player in question/hurt the integrity of the game
(I will admit my one mistake here was I was under the assumption that other list mods were msg'd about this as well considering the game wasn't in my q)

If you would look at the site rules: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Guidelines

One of the main rules is to not quote directly from your role pm. If we look at your post this very obviously breaks the rules. Taking out and replacing it with one word (And that word means the exact same thing as the one replaced) does not make the action taken okay.

Regardless of mechanics or not. If a Town Doctor made the same kind of post the same action would be taken. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings
my response wrote:I was not directly quoting. I was paraphrasing. I never said I was quoting my role PM. I never presented my quote as a quote. The longest string of exact wording was seven words in a row. And behind that, four. And behind that? Two. I literally reworded everything within the best of my abilities.

As for giving an unfair advantage to me, I would like to reiterate that Toogeloo gained townreads for his paraphrase yet no action was taken against him--he did so before I did. I can point to the posts in question where people directly townread Toogeloo for his paraphrase of his role, and yet no "giving an unfair advantage/integrity" modkill was issued to him.

His came first--and that led to the impression that paraphrasing in the way I did was acceptable. Because I was rewording things.

I never quoted from my role PM. I put things in my own wording. I hand-typed literally every word and I put it in my own wording. There was more paraphrased in the role PM than the was exact wording (as proven by literally over half the PM being redacted). The only exact wording copied were either important terms that I can't paraphrase (names of abilities, names of key phrases) or areas where there wasn't any word I could think of to reword it because the worded area was already worded in the most succinct/direct way possible and I couldn't think of extra flair to make it less so.

(To give an example, if a cop PM says, "During the night, target a player; you will learn their alignment", it's hard to say anything when paraphrasing other than "During night, I'll learn my target's alignment"--the latter is almost word for word a quote of the former, but the former is already so succinct that basically anything could be considered directly quoting. If a role is already in the simplest, most direct terms, then you can't reword it into simpler terms with a paraphrase and re-complicating it to be less simple/direct is something that is difficult to do.)

Again to reiterate--when unwnd posted my role PM publicly redacting the parts that weren't exact wordings: literally over half of the role PM was blacked out. Literally
over
half. And even in the half which was shown, the majority of it wasn't exact word for word carried over.
I didn't present my post as a quote of my role PM. I was paraphrasing. I was under the belief that my paraphrase was okay because Toogeloo had made a similar paraphrase earlier, one which gave him an actual tangible benefit that I can point to, and yet he wasn't modkilled for the advantage that I allegedly would've gained that justified mine.

And I changed almost everything. Yes, there were some words that I didn't change. By and large, those were words that couldn't be changed because they were already stated in the simplest, most succinct, most direct way possible, and it was difficult to break them up even further. Yet even there, even with the succinct role PM, I still made that effort to break it up anyway. I altered wording at every stage.

There is no realm where that is not the definition of paraphrasing.

I was writing it in my own words.

In fact even for the longest string of seven. I didn't even realize I was doing seven word for word of a copy.

Because I was typing it all up myself.

I was paraphrasing it, looking at the role PM and then typing it up in my own words.

So I didn't even know there was a seven word for word copy to be had.

That was a case of my own words matching the PM word for word seven times in a row.

Because, to reiterate.

I was not copying, I was not quoting. I was paraphrasing.

You can't tell me in all of your games as a player. When paraphrasing by hand. You haven't had a string of words in your own wording match up to the original role PM.

Especially
when given an already succinct role PM.
I never received a response back.
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Post Post #7562 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:06 pm

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In post 7528, unwnd wrote:The fact you believe that I wanted to modkill mastina upsets me. I never want to modkill anyone. I stand by this and will defend my claim in a hundred different timelines. I did not want to modkill mastina, I merely did what I felt was right at the time.
I recognize and acknowledge that.
But while it may have felt right at the time, recognizing that it was not the right call and was a mistake is important, and your handling of the criticism of people pointing out it was a mistake is itself also poor.
In post 7528, unwnd wrote:So why exactly do you have it against me?
The only thing I have against you is that you think I have something against you in making criticism over a decision I believe was wrong, voicing that criticism, backing it, and then you thinking it's a personal attack on you rather than a criticism over a decision I believe was incorrect.
In post 7528, unwnd wrote:What are you personally gaining or what is the site enriching upon having this.
Better moderation, for a start--what's done is done and cannot be undone even if it felt right at the time. But acknowledging after the fact that there's a fair amount of evidence suggesting it was a wrong call isn't unproductive.
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Post Post #7563 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:10 pm

Post by mastina »

In post 7555, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 7554, Bingle wrote:The appearance of quoting mod communications is just as bad as actually quoting mod communications, rightfully so, because mod confirmation via lack of action is an abusable concept.
I would argue that the appearance of quoting is what actually matters. I didn't think mastina was trying to confirm her abilities by using the mod's phrasing.
I don't think anyone did
. The fact that a couple of phrases happened to match exactly doesn't really matter at all.
*anyone who was a player.

Important distinction to be made here. :P
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Post Post #7564 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 12:12 pm

Post by mastina »

In post 356, mastina wrote:I am the third party.

I'm an Arcanist.

My non-SP ability is Charm Eye. I target a player and they are Charmed. (No clue what Charmed means, my role PM doesn't specify.) Charming counts as a form of marking. (And is the only form of marking I have.)

My 1-SP ability is Chain Circle. I bind the target, negating all support done to them--useful for the town if I target scum, but harmful to the town if I target town, because it's by my understanding basically negating buffs to the target. Preventing scum buffs pro-town, preventing town buffs anti-town.

My 2-SP ability is Nerve Circle. I ensnare my target in a circle--anyone targeting that player takes 2 HP in damage. This basically turns my target into a form of PGO. Incredibly pro-town if I target a player scum target as it damages scum. Incredibly anti-town if I target a player town target.

My 3-SP ability is Curse Circle. I curse my target to be unable to be healed by utility abilities. Again, incredibly pro-town if I target scum to stop them from healing, but incredibly anti-town if I target town to stop them from healing.

My fourth ability, Dispel, 2-SP, is dispelling the curse circle. Doing so heals me for 2 HP.

My passive, Enlightenment, makes me gain 1 SP every time I successfully mark someone.

I win when I mark 5 players. (Which means had I gotten a N0 action in I could've won on D5 but now it's pushed back to D6 at the earliest.) A target doesn't need to be alive to count. So basically if nothing causes my marks to fail I automatically would win on D6 if I got five marks off.

But, *shrug*, "mastina just admitted to not being town", "mastina isn't town", "mastina could be lying", "mastina might end the game in a solo win", "mastina could be scum fakeclaiming 3p", etc. Pick your choice in ways where I'm guaranteed to die before I win, likely by the town elimination.

Since I've taken the "oh what the hell" approach of claiming, may as well go on to scumhunting now.
VOTE: morph the cat

Call it gut if you must but the insistence on hunting 3p as scum pinged me as probably being scum. As the third party in question who knew that I wasn't malevolent, the odd obsession with insisting the game had seven scum and hunting for seven scum stuck out as being a scum mindset.
unwnd wrote:
Arcanist -
A race of casters from unnamed lands. Their circles inflict crippling effects, and can be released to attack or heal.

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You are
THIRD-PARTY.


HP: 7
ATK: 0

Charm Eye [Active] - Choose a target. That target will become
Charmed.
Charm is a form of
marking.


Chain Circle (1 SP) [Active] Choose a target. You will bind that target, negating all support done to them.

Nerve Circle (2 SP) [Active] Choose a target. That player will be ensnared into a circle, and any user who targets that player for that stratum will take 2 damage.

Curse Circle (3 SP) [Active] Choose a target. You will enact a curse upon them, where they may no longer be healed by utility abilities.

Dispel (2 SP) [Active, Self-Targeting] Choosing to
dispel
your Curse Circle will cause you to heal for 2 damage instead.

Enlightenment [Passive] - Each successful mark will grant you 1 additional SP.

You have an individual win condition where you will win once you have marked 5 or more players. A target does not need to be alive in order for them to count.


Please confirm by adding me on discord at unwnd#1668.
Here are the two side by side for what it's worth.

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