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In post 15, VFP wrote:Everyone above me is town!
Who to believeIn post 17, Anya wrote:everyone above me is a werewolf-
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If this is Cabd, I don't think you would make the list after the stunt you pulled last game.In post 200, morph the cat wrote:Luke I expect a hood tonight.
If this is Ffery, I'm sorry, but you are hydraing with Cabd rn, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯-
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I was referring to Day 1 of your Tarot game lolIn post 228, morph the cat wrote:
This is spayhalf. Which stunt in particular?In post 221, Lukewarm wrote:
If this is Cabd, I don't think you would make the list after the stunt you pulled last game.In post 200, morph the cat wrote:Luke I expect a hood tonight.
If this is Ffery, I'm sorry, but you are hydraing with Cabd rn, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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See, I am talking about the game where he denied me access to my own neighborhood, and rendered my neighborizor ability moot.In post 235, morph the cat wrote:
The game Cabd solved and spoke from the dead thanks to neighborhoods?In post 233, Lukewarm wrote:
I was referring to Day 1 of your Tarot game lolIn post 228, morph the cat wrote:
This is spayhalf. Which stunt in particular?In post 221, Lukewarm wrote:
If this is Cabd, I don't think you would make the list after the stunt you pulled last game.In post 200, morph the cat wrote:Luke I expect a hood tonight.
If this is Ffery, I'm sorry, but you are hydraing with Cabd rn, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also, we are such fun in a neighborhood!
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What am I supposedly scared of right now?
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Does it happen to be any of the multiple roles that T3 already claimed? lmaoIn post 266, Dannflor wrote:I did in fact receive a town role pm-
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I feel like that makes sense as to why you immediately dismissed his informed miller claim,In post 290, The Resistance wrote:
That post makes no sense as a slip because T3 could never get away with that as a serious claim because I would out it as a meme almost immediately. :/In post 286, Dannflor wrote:This is what people are referring to as the slip, Titus
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But you were also completely unfazed by the "mafia PT" post, by the self vote, and by the Loyal Babysitter claim?-
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idk, I think I would immediately read each individual one as a joke coming from T3, but seeing so many different ones coming all back to back seemed... different then the joking I expect from T3.In post 306, Dannflor wrote:for what absolutely little it's worth I also read the loyal babysitter as a joke right before I replaced in
I think I am back to null on the slot with the Dann rep in, I am a bit surprised that Titus was so sure he was town the whole time.-
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You think I would panic this game because I was in 1 game that ended after 3 hours?In post 311, Echolocation wrote:
Really?In post 305, morph the cat wrote:
My thoughts are a mirror opposite of these.In post 302, Echolocation wrote:Manatee feels chill. Luke is (?) from first post.
I've not played with Manatee but I got the "pure" vibe from them which like, yeah I know, but it works.
And Luke felt a little stilted on entrance as if he was like "hi I don't know what to say oh wow haha eight pages!" Which like, I expected more panic maybe or frustration given how Tarot went for him as in "oh god stuff is happening what did I miss this time do I get to even have a role." His posting after is better, though.
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Is that discrepancy dependent on the assumption that Dann read the game before repping in? What makes you sure he did that?In post 317, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
This kinda reads like someone who didn't know what they were walking into, which is hard to believe if the game waa reas before rapping inIn post 262, Dannflor wrote:oh my lord T3 what on earth
ZEUS FOUND A MENTAL DISCREPANCY
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I am a bit suspicious of these posts coming from Morph, in a "they might be trying to pocket me" kind of vibe
It feels a bit like how Cabd greeted me in this game where he was scum --
I also don't really know what part of my post puts me in a town read, as opposed to like maybe "not scum with Titus" given that this game is multiball-
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I don't know, there just seem to be a lot of posts coming from them that mention me. Including posts about me before I arrived, then several posts directed at me (like, proportionally more then expected given that this is a 22 player game), then a town read on me that I don't really understand, followed by disagreeing with someone who did not have a town read on meIn post 350, Taco Hemingway wrote:
I don't believe you think you're trying to be pocketedIn post 349, Lukewarm wrote:Spoiler:
I am a bit suspicious of these posts coming from Morph, in a "they might be trying to pocket me" kind of vibe
It feels a bit like how Cabd greeted me in this game where he was scum --
I also don't really know what part of my post puts me in a town read, as opposed to like maybe "not scum with Titus" given that this game is multiball
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@UnwndIn post 386, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
its kinda susp you dont unequivocally trust me tbhIn post 377, unwnd wrote:Dann replaced T3?
I want one or two people to unequivocally trust and so far this game has not produced that. This tells me scumteam 1 and 2 isn't filled with dopes as much as I'd like
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It was not supposed to be scolding.
It was supposed to be "wow, page 8 already? Let me get caught up. Here is an RVS vote"-
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I know you said that you skimmed past my posts, but I shaded morph before you said it was cool. Although I retract my request to be in a town block with you.In post 486, unwnd wrote:Yeah that was to you
I wouldn't say I want to shade your slot, more I want people to actually observe it. Then I want to see what you do with said observations. It's not going to be a great game if you are given the keys so early on for a negative level lim on T3 (despite Dann's efforts). I think the reads coming from those people are lazy but surprisingly not very naive.
I am becoming suspicious of Unwnd for ethereral reasons I cannot find the words for.
My experience playing with Unwnd has been losing to Scumwnd 2 games in a row, and do not want to make that 3 for 3-
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I would say that it is a gut read. Something felt off about the way he interacted with Morph in the last few pages.In post 515, Dannflor wrote:I respect unwnd as scum as well but I don't think he is scum in this game
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Specifically the werewolf team?In post 525, Uncle Shelby wrote:It's too early for this shit but my fantasy werewolf team is right here.
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In post 615, ManateeDude wrote:if I'm wrong abt dannflor which I may very well be I think wheme could very well flip mafia
How could Wheme tmi Dann/T3 as town in a multiball game?In post 616, ManateeDude wrote:whemestars defence of T3 is tmi I think-
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I felt like me and ffery were able to find each other pretty nicely in the Guardians of the Galaxy game to the point that it felt like we were almost a masonry (even with out own chats in spoiler tags). But the progression we had to get there felt genuine, and my immediate reaction is that your collective opening interactions with me this game felt different from that one, and closer to your (Cabd's) opening interactions with me on that Newbie game.In post 653, morph the cat wrote:
More to the point, you're used to both heads of this hydra but NOT the combined mindmeld shit that happens when we keep our arms and legs inside the zebra at all times while the ride is in motion.In post 652, morph the cat wrote:Also, Luke, you're not used to the "Morph finds a new shiny and decides to polish it" thing and we get that, but we're not gonna stop.
I am not locking you guys as scum, I am just wary of you right now.-
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Ah, gotchaIn post 656, ManateeDude wrote:
t3 specifically "slipped" mafiaIn post 654, Lukewarm wrote:In post 615, ManateeDude wrote:if I'm wrong abt dannflor which I may very well be I think wheme could very well flip mafia
How could Wheme tmi Dann/T3 as town in a multiball game?In post 616, ManateeDude wrote:whemestars defence of T3 is tmi I think-
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This is in no way an accurate recount of my recent takeIn post 660, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:Mary thinks that Luke's recent take, which he essentially says: Morph is not town because he (luke) isn't townreading them yet - is very questionable.-
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None of what I said about Morph hinged on my own read of the slot. I was talking aboutIn post 672, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:
What would you say it is then?In post 670, Lukewarm wrote:
This is in no way an accurate recount of my recent takeIn post 660, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:Mary thinks that Luke's recent take, which he essentially says: Morph is not town because he (luke) isn't townreading them yet - is very questionable.theirread onme
In my last game with ffery, we were both town and eventually ended up with a strong mutual town read on one another, but that happened fairly slowly, and her reaching that town read on me felt more genuine when compared to how quickly they jumped to having a town read on me this game. -- If anything, I am unsure what I could have done in post 295 to result in both heads apparently reaching a town read on me simultaneously (see post 394)
I also felt like some of the ways that they approached talking to me resembled how Cabd reached out to me Day 1 of our recent newbie game together, where he was scum.-
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This is wild. Yes they are in relation to my slot, but I am literally talking about their posts this game.In post 691, Kakeguri Addicts wrote:Do you have any thoughts on them that isn't based on the way they're handling your slot? It's hard to dig into such a post given it's more something we would have to take your word for compared to looking at the posts in this game
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I am starting to feel like I am spending too much time talking about this at this point, but it feels like this is the thing that people are asking me about and I am feeling a little bit lost on other places I want to push atm-
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Jesus, do unwnd and ydra need to get a room or something?In post 783, unwnd wrote:
Voting would kill youIn post 779, Echolocation wrote:Please please please vote me Unwnd PLEASE I need you to vote me I am going to die if you don't vote me.
Also I don't think anyone else scumreads you even if I did
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I thought you did pretty good until the rest of the scum team decided to bus you for town credIn post 815, Anya wrote:i played the best wolf game of my life in yggdrasil-
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Also, looking at Anya's iso for this game, I like it. Good vibes.In post 823, Lukewarm wrote:
I thought you did pretty good until the rest of the scum team decided to bus you for town credIn post 815, Anya wrote:i played the best wolf game of my life in yggdrasil-
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This was a pretty drastic change, and I looked back to see what Morph said to cause such a change and can't find it.
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Seems townie tho.
+townie points for Wheme-
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He claimed he was a miller
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I specifically only said miller to see if they would agree with me or correct it to werewolf millerIn post 879, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I dont think you were supposed to tell him that lol-
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If anything, I wish I had been looking at the thread when Morph originally asked so I could have posed it that way immediately instead of giving him time to look backIn post 886, Lukewarm wrote:
I specifically only said miller to see if they would agree with me or correct it to werewolf millerIn post 879, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I dont think you were supposed to tell him that lol-
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The fact that we have 1 person claiming mafia miller and one person claiming werewolf miller leaves me inclined believe both claims.
So I am comfortable with the asumption that Ythan is not a werewolf and Vax is not Mafia, but a couple people (peta and Kakeguri I think) have pointed out that they could potentially be scum on the opposite teams given Cephir's stated random aspect to roles this game-
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Just got caught up - did not really see much that I wanted to respond to directly, but I might give it a second look later to see if that changes.
I find myself agreeing with most kakeguri posts.
I still like Anya's posts
I saw several people shading Wheme's play, but I disagree here. Specifically 849 and 856 tell me that he really believed his point on T3, to the point of trying to prove it -- but then while doing the meta dive, he found the opposite evidence, and changed his stance. That reads as townie to me.
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ebwopIn post 1152, Lukewarm wrote:Just got caught up - did not really see much that I wanted to respond to directly, but I might give it a second look later to see if that changes.
I find myself agreeing with most kakeguri posts.
I still like Anya's posts
I saw several people shading Wheme's play, but I disagree here. Specifically 849 and 856 tell me that he really believed his point on T3, to the point of trying to prove it -- but then while doing the meta dive, he found the opposite evidence, and changed his stance. That reads as townie to me.
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Do you town read all of those slots? Or do you just feel like dropping shade on me for my reads?In post 1170, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
Im really concerned with the fact that Lukewarm's scum pool is all power players actually.In post 1152, Lukewarm wrote:My pool of slots I am wary of are: Morph, Unwnd, Titus, Ydra, Dann
I think this means that lukewarm is either getting paranoid as town
or he is scum who is afraid of the influence they might have.
I see the latter more likely because he's a good player and I respect his game.
If you are town reading them, which ones?
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Also, do I know you? I actually have a guess, and if it is right, then you are someone who wants to scum read me in every game <3-
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Not quite? More like, I don't feel like I can trust any of those.In post 1205, morph the cat wrote:
Does "wary" = scumread?In post 1177, Lukewarm wrote:
Do you town read all of those slots? Or do you just feel like dropping shade on me for my reads?In post 1170, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
Im really concerned with the fact that Lukewarm's scum pool is all power players actually.In post 1152, Lukewarm wrote:My pool of slots I am wary of are: Morph, Unwnd, Titus, Ydra, Dann
I think this means that lukewarm is either getting paranoid as town
or he is scum who is afraid of the influence they might have.
I see the latter more likely because he's a good player and I respect his game.
If you are town reading them, which ones?
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Also, do I know you? I actually have a guess, and if it is right, then you are someone who wants to scum read me in every game <3
I would say that in general, I don't usually start with scum reads, I start out looking for people I feel like I can trust, and then scum reads come later - there are probably exceptions to this, but I think that this is generally closer to my norm
The frustrating thing this game, is that all of the people I have played with before are all getting a "can't trust" label from me when I look at them
Maybe the size of the game and the multiball are getting to me.-
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The more I think about this post, the more nonsensical it is to me.In post 1170, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
Im really concerned with the fact that Lukewarm's scum pool is all power players actually.In post 1152, Lukewarm wrote:My pool of slots I am wary of are: Morph, Unwnd, Titus, Ydra, Dann
I think this means that lukewarm is either getting paranoid as town
or he is scum who is afraid of the influence they might have.
I see the latter more likely because he's a good player and I respect his game. I feel like he wouldn't let paranoia get the best of him here.
another thing is that I'm not a fan of one other person. this was something I was thinking for quite a while but I just forgot what their name was. I'll be back but need to put this here so I dont procrastinate and end up forgetting completely.
-Mister Ocean
They present 2 possibilities for my position which are basically:
I am paranoid town, or
I am paranoid scum
And end with the conclusion "he's a good player and I respect his game. I feel like he wouldn't let paranoia get the best of him" and that somehow leaves them saying I am scum-
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Good point here, there could not possibly be TWO players in this 22 player game that prefer to start with town readsIn post 1212, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:Spoiler:
this reads very fake after unwnd just made a post exactly like this....
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I guess we have different definitions of paranoid then.In post 1219, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
No such thing as paranoid scum(minus mech). Scum would be worried that powerful town players would steamroll them. You could be paranoid town but I think your town game is stronger than that. You're also just purposefully twisting the meaning of my posts.In post 1216, Lukewarm wrote:
The more I think about this post, the more nonsensical it is to me.In post 1170, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
Im really concerned with the fact that Lukewarm's scum pool is all power players actually.In post 1152, Lukewarm wrote:My pool of slots I am wary of are: Morph, Unwnd, Titus, Ydra, Dann
I think this means that lukewarm is either getting paranoid as town
or he is scum who is afraid of the influence they might have.
I see the latter more likely because he's a good player and I respect his game. I feel like he wouldn't let paranoia get the best of him here.
another thing is that I'm not a fan of one other person. this was something I was thinking for quite a while but I just forgot what their name was. I'll be back but need to put this here so I dont procrastinate and end up forgetting completely.
-Mister Ocean
They present 2 possibilities for my position which are basically:
I am paranoid town, or
I am paranoid scum
And end with the conclusion "he's a good player and I respect his game. I feel like he wouldn't let paranoia get the best of him" and that somehow leaves them saying I am scum
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Because, I would describe "he is scum who is afraid of the influence they might have." as being paranoid.
And also not really lining up with the reality of my posts. Like, I am scum afraid of town!Morph, so I ---- refused to give them a mutual town read.
Ditto for Unwnd. (whose list was not explicitly town->scum, but I feel like he put me in a pretty favorable position nonetheless)
If anything, pointing them out and saying I don't trust them (or, as you thought I was saying, calling them scum) seems like the faster way to draw their attention to me (or getting them to night kill me if they are the opposite scum team).
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What I was mainly trying to point out that you reduced the possibilities to exactly 2 options, discounted 1, and ended on that must mean that I am scummy.
You never even listed the possibility that I could be town with genuine concerns for the slots. Do you really think that there is no reason for me to be wary of those slots right now?
Basically, it did not feel like you were trying to understand my stance, but more like you just wanted to frame my stance as scummy.-
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I don't know, I feel like if I were scum, I would try to cultivate the town reads from the UTR, then kill them over night, instead of repeatedly saying I don't trust them during the day...In post 1251, Celestial Powerhouse wrote: You are scum/werewolf afraid of power players so you are starting off by putting them low on your lists so that their influence is lower. That's a pretty common scum tactic? giving mutual town reads to players that you think will become UTR is a bad idea if you are scum. the mutual town reads dont mean anything if the majority of town thing they are more towny than you....
wtf. You literally said:how did I "reduce possibilities"? I am making analysis's on the game. I think you're paranoid town or discrediting shady scum. I say that the latter is more likely. How is that
"reduc[ing] the possibilities to exactly 2 options, discounted 1, and ended on that must mean that [you are] scummy." Go on with your fancy words but you are totally just exaggerating the hell out of a post saying that I think you might be scum.
Lukewarm is either--- but he is too good for x, so it more likely yxory
that is literally reducing the possibilities to 2 options, discounting 1, and ending on the conclusion if must be the other.
My point was, and is, that it did not appear like you were even considering the possibility that I was town with genuine concerns.-
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Because I enjoy playing games with T3, and was sad to see him go.In post 1324, Anya wrote:lukewarm why did you feel bad for t3 repping out?
i don't feel bad for a fish flopping around on the ground that i've reeled in
I also did not even realize that I was putting him at e-2 when I voted him with my RVS vote, so it felt like I accidentally contributed to making him want to leave. (getting run up that far less then 3 hours into the game)-
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I generally agree with this.In post 1326, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:But sure, we can drop it for now since i dont care if Dann dies regardless of his alignment honestly.
Jumping on the Mister ocean vs lukewarm shit is gross and I'm down for limming that slot for that.
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I would say that the first time I was not very sure, but was trying to figure out if your angle on me was really just as non-genuine as it seemed or if you were just one very specific person.
The second time, I reached the conclusion that you are probably that one very specific person and I should just drop the dialogue.-
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Is there something that you wanted me to talk about with you, or is this just a general reach out?In post 1358, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:Luke perhaps you'd rather talk to me over my salty brother?
Interestingly despite being the one with the firey head, I'm not the hot headed brother.
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Interesting, I thought you approved of voting me? 1263In post 1382, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:
Just a general reach out. I looked over your interactions with Posidon and i thought they look decent enough.In post 1380, Lukewarm wrote:
Is there something that you wanted me to talk about with you, or is this just a general reach out?In post 1358, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:Luke perhaps you'd rather talk to me over my salty brother?
Interestingly despite being the one with the firey head, I'm not the hot headed brother.
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It seems a bit strange to me that Posiden's case on me was apparently not enough to convince the other heads of his own hydra, but was enough to convince both Taco and Dann to follow Posiden's push on me with votes of their own.
They are also empty votes...
@Taco and Dann, would you guys like to weigh in-
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If you say so, but I mean, you also followed the vote up with this, which is what felt more like you were actually buying what posiden was sellingIn post 1399, Dannflor wrote:
idk just wanted to see how you'd reactIn post 1391, Lukewarm wrote:It seems a bit strange to me that Posiden's case on me was apparently not enough to convince the other heads of his own hydra, but was enough to convince both Taco and Dann to follow Posiden's push on me with votes of their own.
They are also empty votes...
@Taco and Dann, would you guys like to weigh in
I don't want to self vote yet because I think that functionally ends the day and I feel there's still useful content being produced
In post 1314, Dannflor wrote:does lukewarm vs. celestial feel kinda funky to anyone else-
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What a plot twistIn post 1414, morph the cat wrote:I kind of found a new meta tell and no longer want Dann dead today :/-
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I took his claim of investigates as having a gun, to be of similar, yet opposite, nature to you investigating as being hairyIn post 1448, Ythan wrote:Vax didn't really "miller claim" plenty of protown roles have guns iirc and this isn't even a normal so fwir.-
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I am sorry if you read my posts as me blowing up at you, because that was not the tone I was thinking of as I typed my posts.In post 1485, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:i will admit, i am slightly swayed however i think i had very valid points. regardless of lukewarm's alignment, they are areas to improve on. i was just trying to figure out his alignment and he blew up on me for essentially no reason.
From my pov, I did not like your analysis, I first asked for clarification, did not like you response, then said I did not think your take / felt like the take was not genuine.
There was never any anger behind it (which, given you described it as a blow up, I think you read in my posts)-
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Yes. You are 100% the person I thought you were.In post 1495, Celestial Powerhouse wrote:I guess I'm also just salty that Lukewarm is always townread. Oh well. Some people are just born different.
I retract my scum read on the hydra from the way Poseidon engaged with my slot. She does that as town too, so it is NAI