Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[WhemeStar]

Soo mastina uses her role to auto succeed raid and then gets another auto succeed.

Seems cool

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Also hi everyone

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Don’t worry mirio I townread you

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No not really

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I don't like that wisdom VOTE: elsa

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If Mastina is scum, by virtue of her roleclaim she has to be on every single raid;

Why?

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Romance can u answer my question

p edit : okay good answer

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VOTE: head 1/head2

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God I hate reading hydras.

Mastina you should be on this raid and then on the third raid : )

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Mastina can you elaborate on your Cheeks read for me ^^

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God I hate reading hydras.

Mastina you should be on this raid and then on the third raid : )

Elaborate.

-R

Gut vibes I get based on the setup

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My post was more of a prediction than anything

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When does the raid conclude? EOD?

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Cheeks join me !

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Ok im caught up but dont really have much to say

I tr mastina because I tr effort but other ppl tr her so guess its good.

I think a T3 wagon is always safe and is easy to determine his allingment. He seems to be playing differently recently so idk if hes swithcing up his meta or not.

Titus wagon bad wagon

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I’m extremely hungover right now sorry have not been giving this game 2 much effort

Plan to read when I wake up from this nap im about to take and try to catch scum

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OKAY

IM HERE BUT STILL HAVENT READ

JUST WORKED TIL 6 AM SO HOPEFULLY I AM ABLE TO READ THIS WHEN I WAKE UP I AM DEAD TIRED. IM ON LIKE PAGE 20 OR SOMETHING I THINK FML PLS STOP POSTING FOR 10 HOURS

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On a more serious note when I wake up im probably gonna read from page 1 because honestly I remember nothing about this game

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ITs been a rough weekend. Anyways okay goodnight.

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Gamma !! Town!!

VOTE: SirCakez

I really hope you didn't roll scum again cakez cause I want to actually play a game with you

This is actually... not a bad vote

Sorry this was a long time ago but can you explain why you thought it wasnt a bad vote?

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also im reading now time 2 catch scum u fuckers

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I did check with the mod, and as a matter of fact: yes. That's in fact how it works! The mod confirmed that me using my 1x guaranteed raid success...will give me another shot at a guaranteed raid success.

The downside to me claiming/confirming this is that now all scum with X-shots know they can get another X-shot but hopefully the town can get more mileage out of the raid. (I claimed without knowing what the raid bonus was, I saw my role earlier, formed a plan for what I'd do on daystart, I was phoneposting when the game started, so didn't know the ramifications until now.)

A townie mindset would save this to stop 3 failed raids in a row or something instead of wasting it early on. But you claimed it when the mod alluded to that type of role day 1 and plan to use it immediately?

I read the raid thing at the beginning and it said only hostile factions can choose to pass or fail the raid if they're in it. So your ability seems more suited to town at first glance. But it said faction(s). So I dunno.

I just don't wanna trust you to claim this role so early. Does the town know when you succeed? Because if we don't know when you use it, then you can just let this raid pass through by just accepting this raid as scum instead. You'd know if your buddies are in the raid anyway.

I actually missed this post but just read it from the mystic bears catch up and wow I hard disagree with the first line of this post. Why isn't it a townie mindset for mastina to use it on the first raid?

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Tictac is obv town so far

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Join Raid as Tank.

Is this flavor or are you doing something here

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I'll be impressed if Wheme does a catch-up that doesn't sound like a skim read with no substance.

IDK HOW TO GENERATE SUBSTANCE IDK ILL CATCH UP AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WILL WANT TO TALK TO ME ABOUT STUFF AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE

Im not rly worried about the votes on me although idek how many votes are on me but o well

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Ill be ur little scholar healer ><

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VOTE: Titus

I very strongly agree but Mirio why are you voting Titus? I don't think there's any reason to be voting Titus for that post for anyone that isn't me.

VOTE: Titus

-norbeario

I'm feeling a bit of a headache, but i'll sheep this for now
VOTE: Titus

Wtf are these

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I actually think Titus is town here so far

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I think I like bell too

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Yeah but I think town titus suggests that over scum titus

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[quote="In post 698, Qrow and Raven"][/quote]

When you say this are you talking about they have similar meta?

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I agree with Gamma/Nancy scum. I don't agree with bell town.
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Why are we scum and Bell is like the easiest read ever. He’s the new Creature. No offence, Bell. <3

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Bell isn’t town because he’s posting, it’s WHAT he’s posting. He was flaming obvscum in that game we hydra’d in. That’s why I say he’s the new Creature. Creature used to be transparent, that’s no longer the case but unless Bell has very recently drastically improved his scumgame, I think I’m good with my read.

Well theres my answer

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Gamma !! Town!!

VOTE: SirCakez

I really hope you didn't roll scum again cakez cause I want to actually play a game with you

This is actually... not a bad vote

Sorry this was a long time ago but can you explain why you thought it wasnt a bad vote?

Because i was scumreading Cakez

howd you get that read on him when he only had like 4 posts at the time

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Why?

If a raid fails, we know there must be at least one scum on it.

If mission fails in resistance, we know there must be at least one scum on it.

Missions in resistance also have way less people, and it's easier to figure out, in a pool of 8 it'd be almost like trying to find a needle in a haysack specially if we dont know the ammount of scum in it.
If you think you can do it, more power to you, i wasnt that good at cross referencing in mindnight/resistance anyway and that one felt easier.

There is also more incentive for scum to fail a mission in resistance, it's their main objective after all.

I just feels these differences make it harder to figure things out with it.

I was actually thinkign you could be scum but I was about to make this same post with less detail in response to titus so gj sakura

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Gamma !! Town!!

VOTE: SirCakez

I really hope you didn't roll scum again cakez cause I want to actually play a game with you

This is actually... not a bad vote

Sorry this was a long time ago but can you explain why you thought it wasnt a bad vote?

Why is this what you comment on of all things?

It stood out to me because I felt that you didn't really have any thread presence yet so was confused on how/why they called it a good vote/scumread you.

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The more I read my own posts the more confused i am at the town reads I’m getting.

I thought my town tells were all related to:enjoyment and Spamming activity.

My activity is meh this game and while I’m enjoying it so far I don’t see any of that in my posts this game or at the least, it’s subtle.

Not to make everything about me but I really want some explanations for these trs.

Except Nora. They get a pass because I like them.

You say this yet your top 3 in posts

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VOTE: head 1/head2

Sorry to hear that Wheme but I really need you to explain this vote?

~R

Wheme, I’m still waiting for you to answer this.

I think T3's wagons are a pretty easy way to determine his allignment.

I also think T3's posting hasn't been as carefree as I expect out of town him but he played that way in a similar finished newbie game so who fckin knows maybe hes trying to switch up his meta

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I agree with Gamma/Nancy scum. I don't agree with bell town.
~ C

Why are we scum and Bell is like the easiest read ever. He’s the new Creature. No offence, Bell. <3

Why did you quote this?

Because I meant to quote it in the previous post but it fudged up

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Im on page 31 right now. Hope to read more after I get back from work. Once i catch up il hopefully be able to stay caught up and then be able to post and obvtown it up soon

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VOTE: head 1/head2

Sorry to hear that Wheme but I really need you to explain this vote?

~R

Wheme, I’m still waiting for you to answer this.

I think T3's wagons are a pretty easy way to determine his allignment.

I also think T3's posting hasn't been as carefree as I expect out of town him but he played that way in a similar finished newbie game so who fckin knows maybe hes trying to switch up his meta

That’s not a good reason to vote. Why is he scum?

I didn't have a read on him when I first voted him.

Sometimes you use votes to sort people and this is one of those times for me

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More Wheme votes.

Bell wanna talk about it

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Sakura and tictac are my biggest townreads

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I townread mastina cause effort but I always townread effort cause im 2 lazy to read the giant wall posts

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God I hate reading hydras.

Mastina you should be on this raid and then on the third raid : )

Why not the second?

Gut feeling that 3rd reward is gonna be better than 2nd reward

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Sakura and tictac are my biggest townreads

Huh, that's odd, i figured a lot ppl in here have done a lot more than me, why do you townread me? i hope it's not only for 1258

I get good vibes from u idk

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Im staying caught up but still need to read like 15 pages q.q

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Flea being on the narrow is somewhat unexpected. But otherwise, I guess I'm waiting for Wheme to obvtown.

BELL WANNA TALK ITS TEH BEST WAY FOR ME

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Flea being on the narrow is somewhat unexpected. But otherwise, I guess I'm waiting for Wheme to obvtown.

BELL WANNA TALK ITS TEH BEST WAY FOR ME

Gut feelings on everyone Just talk it all out, go.

Theres like 21 fckin people

I dont have enough gut feelings to go around

Qrow seems town
Sakura seems town
Tictac town
U town becuase apparently u posting = town
Mastina town cause effort
aa9 seems to be panicking and thats weird

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Elsa could be scum i dont really agree with their posts
dwlee is giving me idc vibes and i kinda like that

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Ah man my post got deleted.

1. Commentary about signing up for this game for the last 3 or 4 pages.
2. Asking Wheme why he said he was gunna obvtown if he doesn’t know how to obvtown.

Thats part of obv towning

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so i kinda like the agression from you both, and the bit with the heads disagreeing felt real.

I got same vibe and I think I TR head dissonance

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I'm sorry, everyone. I gave it some thought and the raid has a lot of benefits I'd overlooked. I've tried to restrain myself but it's simply an offer I can't refuse. Ugh, I'll probably regret this later.

Join Raid

Really weird post

VOTE: Tomorrow

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Tomorrow Corporation looks pretty bad too

Pog

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VC 1.09

Titus (1):

Mystic Bears

Dwlee99 (1):

ArcAngel9

Tomorrow Corporation (1):

WhemeStar

These three votes are weird. Why do we have people trying to make these outlier votes? These people need to pick something popular, or amp up their motivation and push the reason a little more vocally. In particular, I feel like the Wheme vote on TC is both wasted and futile given the type of player Wheme is. They may as well not be voting at all.

Yo wtf my vote is good

Toog if you had a day shot who are u shooting

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I don't hate the vote tho (Houses vote on dwlee)

Do you scumread dwlee?

He’s screaming town for me

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VOTE: momrangal

I'm sorry, everyone. I gave it some thought and the raid has a lot of benefits I'd overlooked. I've tried to restrain myself but it's simply an offer I can't refuse. Ugh, I'll probably regret this later.

Join Raid

Really weird post

VOTE: Tomorrow

???

Explain?

~R

Sounds like tomorrow is on the fence and wanted an excuse to join the raid like he was told to do it

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Has toog answered my question did I miss it

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Any hammer without a claim that’s not an hour before deadline is a bad hammer

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Really liking Mandelbrot today

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Okay, at work but 2 things:

That hammer wasn't the best hammer. And plea for the love of god we can't just give people Strongwill or whatever.

Why do you want this raid to fail

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I feel like waiting on the guilty is kind of dumb but I’m dumb so maybe it’s not dumb

Seems like the day will inevitably result in us orbiting and waiting to see who the guilty is on so talked about a stalled day

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I guess you are a cup half full type of guy

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Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

Wouldn’t all raids benefit town more than scum

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VOTE: Sircakez

I think this is L-1

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VOTE: Sircakez

I think this is L-1

Can you not L minus 1 him yet?

Why?

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I’m really liking house today

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Tic-tac-toe is town

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UNVOTE:

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Mastina is so fun to play with

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Could do, but first this raid needs to succeed with 0 scum in it, so i cant be roleblocked and scum cant strongman.
Was originally planning on Healing Romance.

For that matter: if any of Elsa Jay, STD, or ArcAngel9 (and to some extent, WhemeStar) are on today's raid:

I'd consider that a scumclaim from them.

Dead serious.

Tempting

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I still think tomorrow corp is scum

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Ok actually this is easy. we just reorder the whole raid and it'll all be good
Make everyone that is town exit the raid right now. The raid people will be reordered to create a compromise
i propose a raid of
1. Me/Flea
2. Romance
3. Sakura Hana
4. Tommorow
5. Massy
6. Bell
7. Realcheeky
8. SirCakez

Is this a joke

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But he wont be on the raid because he is getting limmed.

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Liking Flea/Noraa less today. They are trying too hard on AA9, and I'm firmly in belief that slot is town. They've also been side-eyeing me heavily and I don't like it :p.

Why do you think AA9 is town?

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Okay so now people want TC cool and theres a soft guilty i am a god at this game

VOTE: tc

On a more serious note here are my current thoughts

Mastinas posts make 0 sense.
TC is scum.
Tictac is town
I townread Toog but I have paranoia that hes scum
Mandelbrot I TR. At least the house side.
Sakura town
Romance town
Elsa probably scum

IDK whos left tbh but theres my readlist any questions for me. Also sorry toog but I dont really care for being on this raid unless Im needed because we think scum is on it.

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I think I want Mastina to fullclaim

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Mastina is sounding very confusing to me and theyre role seems to do a lot that I juist dont get

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Elsa is being so egregious today like “we got TC we got this!” and was like oh silly Mastina pushing me :/ and then Wheme jumped on like Yeah Mastina Claim Your Role!

And no one finds this weird?

Are you not super confused on what mastina is trying to say or is that just me

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Also me “jumping” with Elsa on mastina is such a weird point to make when I literally scumread Elsa

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My reads are pretty similar to most people so that’s nice

Not getting Romances or Mastinas townread on TC I thought the slot has been scum.

Elsa and cheeks are both viable votes for me

I don’t think I’ll be voting Bell it’s a good sheep read me thinks.

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Trying to stay caught up in this game but going to bed at 10 am and not having a day off work is rough. This is the least I can do but at least it’s something.

Trying to answer questions I see towards me and keep most of my thoughts to myself but I miss stuff a lot


ANY QUESTIONS LEMME KNOW ILL BE A OPEN BOOK

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I can try to elaborate if youd like!

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This new iOS thing with iPhone 13 with the search/website bar being at the bottom of the iPhone is so dumb

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That would be amazing I’ll google it

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Oh my god this is so much better thank you bell

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I can try to elaborate if youd like!

Yes please.
~C

Okie give me like 4 hours

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Kind of surprised that everyone was saying that Bell had this creature style meta that led everyone to townread him D1 and now he's suddenly into a bunch of people's PoE.

BIG TRUE

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Okay cheeks im very bad at this but ima try my best

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I have to go to work but this is a start at least

So I started not liking your posts at #2290. They just seemed like you were spiraling out of control and didn't know what to say or think, especially with calling TC town and then right after agreeing with his death it just seemed so weird and threw me way off. Your scumread on bell also pinged me because basically what Sakura said

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Ill give more after work not havin a day off in 2 weeks fuckin blows

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Here's a theory about what happened day2:
Elsa is not a fall-guy-scum. Elsa is a carry-scum. Him being caught in poe was very bad for the scumteam, but he could not out because then there's nooo scumz in the raid and romance gets a strongwilled result.
Enter bears-plan, and suddenly theres a way to get someone besides Elsa to be the fall-guy. maybe someone better positioned so they get some miseets out of it too. So that's why Raven was so hyped to get raiding.
they actually did intend to use the plan to switch places w elsa, and that is why that is the framing they keep using.
only things got cut short by AA and TC, soo i'm thinking those slots are associative probtown.

Would be interested in what do you think of the theory that scum was a bit slow to join day 2 raid, but at the time they didnt know who the guilty was in, so since it was on cakez, EJ would not be able to leave, and Mystic Bears proposed raid adjustment was to help EJ get out of the raid while also failing it.

Why did EJ need to get out of the raid? Sorry im lost here

Also im here gz on catching scum guys this is twice now that I come back to catch up and suddenly realize its night but I guess I can't be upset at it

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I wanna try actually engaging with this game instead of coasting along

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Who had doubts about Mastina?

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Yeah i guess in this scenario Q+R would be scum with Elsa but not MB, otherwise Elsa would have exited.

Queue:
Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
SirCakez
Sakura Hana
Romance
tictac

Backup
Tomorrow Corporation
Toogeloo
Mystic Bears
Qrow and Raven

can you explain this pls

[WhemeStar]

Mastina, this raid refills shots so if you're on it alone and force it to succeed you'd still be able to do that again

This doesn't work btw

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If the raid doesn't fill it can't succeed.

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Think about in game lore you can't beat a raid without a full fuckin group

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Also not liking Cheeks again today

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Have we asked mod because I doubt it

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That makes the first raid effectively pointless

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Eh, it's fine for survivor to claim, it's not fine for mafia to claim.

This is where im at in current catchup

Mastina would claim third party if she was third party.

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Im actually really disliking mandel on 202 and liking cheeks which is weird..

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I am not reading 20 freaking pages that appear overnight.

Mastina 3P tinfoil, that's about as far as I can get. Honestly I'm happy leaving it as a possible tinfoil.

-F

Haha....

fml

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Another day another cathcing up and then it being night POG

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I cant imagine how much more inactive id be if i rolled scum

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I’m gonna stay caught up today

I like tomorrow corp or real cheeks today I should probably reread some pages but really doubt I will

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HOLY FUCK I WAKE UP TO ANOTHER 11 PAGES AHHH

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VOTE: WHEMESTAR

God took u guys long enough