AI UPCIK PART II | Compromised

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Oh well.

I confirm Tarou beforehand.

What does this mean?

What are you confirming?

Yes, please tell us what you mean by that.

I concur, what are you talking about

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hehe xwx i love that evaluation

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Even if it is saying like basically nothing

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Very close to sheeping Pooky on Ari purely because it'd be funny if it works and im rapidly losing interest

What if mastinas purposefully swapped their reads because they knew we'd do that opposite. that'd be something

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This game being multiball means the role shenanigans could just be total bullshit in any case

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This game being multiball means the role shenanigans could just be total bullshit in any case

well what i mean by that is like a group in a multiball could have a claim that seems towny but is actually just a function of them being a multiball competing with other scum

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if A50 is scum i think he's spewing Ari/Tarou town

It's a dumb guess cause it ignores you and Ari off the top of my head but it's a guess nonetheless

I understand the Ari point, but why Tarou?

i missed this it was because he was giving me shit for voting Tarou cause of the claim so maybe he was implying Tarou!town

i guess he also could be doing it for a partner he feels is caught for wrong reasons though

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Can Tarou just come back and elaborate on the claim

before deadline preferably...?

Like if you have a role that can actually save you would you really say that but not reveal it and then LEAVE

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AND WHAT IS ENCHANT TALKING ABOUT

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oh we're good then

Well actually this game might just end up never-ending then

and idk i thought OP hinted at it and ppl were saying it seemed likely

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Tarou, nothing in your past couple of posts feels town to me. If you are town, which voters do you think are scum?

what do you make of the claim?

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I can't believe people are not seeing RR as SCUM. If I was their partner I'd have power-bus'ed them already.

Who wants to take bets RR is

the

Scum that uses "Dark Magic"??

literally why

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VOTE: NDMath

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am i scum too??? I

literally

said the same thing yesterday about NDMath having a "towny" claim that could be invalidated by multiball

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Unless i forgot to say it but im pretty sure i mentioned it somewhere

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And where are you getting dark magic from?

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Oh you're saying that RR is a dark magic user who is presuming that NDMath is either a town or opposite faction member

Again though if we're assuming this game is multiball a cop of sorts makes sense and the way this one is worded probably makes even a little bit more sense for an informed team cause I am unsure what town does with "Dark Magic" information

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why would mastina be describing me as you

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Unless they're saying either I'm scum or you're town which is just a very oddly phrased read

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I think if mastina had more characters they woulda used em. I'm guessing they get less and less as we go or something

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If they wanted to refer to you I feel like GE would have made more sense than gem

As for the mechanical stuff A50 has a point that ND could be a sk cop too although I dont see why setup design would want to counter SK

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Unless they're saying either I'm scum or you're town which is just a very oddly phrased read

yeah that's literally what I said I thought they might have been saying

ya i read from the front to the back stupid me

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That sounds particularly unfun -- i hope things get resolved soon so you don't have to worry about it anymore

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worstie worstie worstie worstie

I don't particularly give any weight to the whole dark magic thing. But I do think NDMath could be scum with that ability and i already think RR is town

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bat and bear both not tasty

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half the thread are viable elims that I would kill all at once in order to restart the game

Those two kills are not in those 6 or 7

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I have an evaluation of all the best elims up in my iso let me get out of bed

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it's a little outdated but heres the starter pack:

NDMath I guess i gave some credit since his role seems to interact with the setup. To be honest though with Titus' soft CC and not even really being sure Ari is town i'm not sure how good that is

Tarou is unreadable

Enchant is basically unreadable. i think after skimming PyP, his play doesn't really resemble it quite exactly. and im also sort of surprised he forgot this game existed if scum since i've seen him care about scum more than that

Titus, although it's not her fault i don't have any reference for

Yuki and Ari have a bit more content than the others but I don't know them and obviously they're not around since ive repped in as far as i can remember. Yuki seems adamant they're playing to their town meta and Tarou is backing that up which makes me lean towards Tarou

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realistically i think the majority of bad guys has to be in these players and if that isn't the case I don't think we're getting anywhere ever

I thik that Skybird, Pooky, Gamma, and potentialllyyyy A50 could technically be scum but those are problems i would wait on until I like have any grasp over the first half of the playerlist i mentioned

Gamma actually could be a tier lower but im getting the impression he is playing i just haven't been paying attention to his posts. i was also under the impression earlier that he played out of his scumrange according to some players (Same sort of thing for A50)

Pooky can just be scum but i wouldn't dare kill him. Sky i came around to the other day although im less certain of that now

No one I mention above the dash is playing the game to even the slightest degree

NDMath has a really bad D1 comparatively especially if you figure the main wagons are mostly or all town. Tarou has a similarly bad D1 and it also had a really bad comment about "Told yall we shoulda elimed Ari" despite doing nothing to show that on the previous day

Enchant contributes a little deeper than PyP Enchant by my own analysis and thats the best ive got.

Titus hasn't been able to play

Yuki chooses not to play. Is adamant they only play like this as town

Ari isn't here and i have been told flaking out is NAI for him. Glad you're here lets not have a repeat of 8-ball and you'll either obvscum or obvtown (to me) immediately

also Skybird's posting recently has been sort of bad from a Tarou!town perspective. I thought the same of A50 but im kind of not putting as much stock into that

Pooky can be scum but at least he's playing to at least some degree

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Oh yeah Gamma is in this game lol

Same as the rest except i think he's playing and im just not having any of it stick

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I'm way down to eliminate mastinas townreads minus Dwlee

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I am sad you can't tell it's town me

Mastina even told you too!

how am i even supposed to tell

mastina scumreading you is ironically the strongest argument so far

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Kingmaker is sort of an odd role for scum to have I guess, or at least Tarou believes it is

I'm still down for NDMath. if not then I'd probably go to Titus

but i wouldn't be surprised at a scum flip from any player minus RR and Dwlee and even then it's like they could just be playing well among a sea of town that doesn't care

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tarou are u pockiting me and/or pooky

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Why are you willing to bet everything on Titus being town? Also, have we played before?

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Also and sorry to bombard you, but why didn't you use your kingmake to save yourself as we were in the process of killing you? You ghosted for like 2 days after the claim without elaborating on it

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cuz if he's town that sounds fucking lit ngl

I know, I planned to use it on Yuki for the role play but she is inactive :/
Which makes me think she might be scum.

this is the kinda plot twist i am here for

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Are you familiar with Yuki? I assumed so cause of the like puppy pocketing thingy but i actually have no idea

I would kill Yuki, Skybird, NDMath, maaayyybe worsty... who else is in this game

I have to refer to our pooky elim pick thing rather than OP cause op is super old

Actually Yuki/Sky/NDMath/Ari team maybe hinging on Tarou and Pooky and Gamma and A50 and Enchant being town which I am basically just hoping at

I actually don't know if ND and Ari on the same team make sense given the claim stuff, you could possibly replace one with just anyone im wrong on

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Oh hey Shiro!! Welcome to the game

Uhhhh what was i going to ask

Worst why are you scumreading me

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I think Sky's behaviour towards Tarou and the claim and stuff has been a tad uncharitable

And A50 was over the top defending like he knows he's right but i think im probably wrong on that. But if he is scum i still claim credit for that read

RR is town and heavy heavy town if ND is scum

@mod you have Ari instead of worstie on VC.

pedit: hey he cant do that i have a very good sense of smell!! at least when it comes to fruits

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Worst why are you scumreading me

I just remembered why I was asking this. So I've remembered the question and the reasoning. worst, if u would please

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i had a whole counterargument and it was so good and i was ready to start the 1v1 again but whatever ill save it

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I havent seen a single good reason to refute the "NDMath's claim doesnt help him cause prolly multiball so let's look at the rest of his play oh it's scummy lets lim there then" mindset

ND's claim is the only saving grace he has in my mind

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VOTE: worst

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I think Sky's behaviour towards Tarou and the claim and stuff has been a tad uncharitable

Don't care. Tarou (Hi Shiro!) Previously Tarou wasn't doing much and it struck me as scummy. Now that she's opening up I'm getting a better read on her. I can wait to see more before limming.

VOTE: Yuki

i found tarou scummy too

my point was it felt like you were handwaving the claim n all that and I found it suspicious if more traction happened on Tarou and they flip town

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Worst>Titus>NDMath>Yuki

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i tried maybe ppl will listen to you idk

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I don't even know who NDMath and Yuki are. lol.

i have been here and i still don't even really know

VOTE: NDMath

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im flattered you think im capable of this sort of play as scum but im not really sure where you got the impression I can from. As town I'm very hit or miss on effort and accuracy, it can be anything but when I really try I post my thoughts to the thread live from my brain as to project 100% of myself so there is nothing more that can be done. I did that back when I was caring more trying to win on the previous days

As scum though im very rigid and play pretty much the same, im bound by how stressful i find the experience. I post large walls but in shorter bursts, and I find every excuse i can to avoid the game. you at the very least wouldnt be calling me a gem or mvp.

But it does make me feel good. At least to some extent. I'm not sure my play has been so special, so far I've been wrong and more or less half of the game isnt here anyway

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This is what I was going to mention to worst. I actually had a discord conversation with him back when he comodded with me on my first game! My play this game is leagues away from how i described my experience of scum to him, as well as all previous games ive ever played really. I'm not saying I throw as scum, I can be townread, but i am saying you can spot a distinct pattern that I am yet to be good at breaking free from

Do I try, yes. but as it stands this game i am certain i exited my range

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I agree that Pooky could be scum but i disagree that it has anything to do with how he approached your reads. Even if he was being disingenuous, which I doubt seeing as there was no way to know which head was writing them

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Something I'm curious about.. why did NDMath claim to investigate people who interact with the dead? How did he know that people would have roles that match that?

Or am I mistaken and was it only Ari? If so I suppose he could've used Ari to base the role off of.

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God, I wouldnt be surprised at almost any player being scum. Like I have many provisional townreads but they're just so paper thin

I dont really know where to go if certain slots dont start playing. Yuki, Gamma, Titus, Enchant... come to mind.

And when it comes to Pooky i dont really have a handle on his alignment and am more or less just hoping he gets resolved

Worst might be scum

But what are ya gonna do

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Oh and to touch on the multi ball point, I have played a game where I was under the impression it was multi ball and I was scum, didnt change a damn thing. Its Silent Star Lunacy. Kanna and I were werewolves and we thought multiball. Turns out werewolves were town. But that first day was rough

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I do want to apologize I feel like i came off way too harsh when i discredited mastinas reads, it was more because I found it amusing if the bottom 5 or 6 or so were all scum which seemed quite feasible

But I feel like i was being mean. I dont think mastina is a bad player, not at all. There was this one micro where I was dazzled by her scumplay actually. Dont remember which one, but i was stunned and terribly worried to have to play against it.

And her walls are of course the stuff of legend, I strive to make something quite as much of a spectacle as a post that spans over the length of 25 posts.

This game is really kind of a wash for me and I wouldnt hold it against anyone to pretty much have random reads here

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And I dont believe I've been acquainted with Mollie so if I came off as insulting them i am very sorry, i didnt intend for that. I dont know their style of play or which reads were theirs or anything like that

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i do actually think there was some significance to the weird wording of ND's wincon, although whether or not we can find it, maybe not. It just seems odd to frame an eliminatior that way.

I was mostly thinking about Tarou (wrong) and worst/ari (doesnt seem popular) over the night phase. I didnt really reread much so much as think because i couldnt bring myself to and also ive been quite the busy bat recently

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I know I'm a broken record by this point but can i please have it spoonfed to me why Ari cant just be following his apparent scum pattern. The claim doesnt mean anything to me now

Other than that, I need to see posts from roughly half the game to get anywhere. otherwise i am just going to stick to trusting what little confidence I have in the townreads i have and just try and pick right

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:O

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And I dont believe I've been acquainted with Mollie so if I came off as insulting them i am very sorry, i didnt intend for that. I dont know their style of play or which reads were theirs or anything like that

You didn't <3 <3 <3

I think you are a gem <3

!! ♡♡

pleasure to make your acquaintance!

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I had a theory ND might have been a protown condemner with players on two different scumteams on either side

But if he figured that out he coulda claimed that and revealed like all of the scum so I don't think that's what it was. Maybe it was town on one and and scum on the other. Either way he wasn't comfortable claiming it and did a fakeclaim instead. i wonder why he didn't fakeclaim a guilty, though?

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The fact that we only had one kill last night means we had a serial killer and a scum faction. We executed the serial killer, hence only one night kill.

Except NDMath wasn't a serial killer?

I think what probably happened was both scumteams targeted Tarou because of its claim

Yeah, after re-reading it I realized I jumped to conclusions. :oops:

Both teams targeting the same slot is likely.

Why would scum prioritize Tarou that heavily? Its claim was kingmaker which doesnt inherently add any power really. Unless it can give us an extra elimination by staving off Xylo but i wouldnt think kingmaker works like that

Also I was going back and forth on Tarou during the night because i know that Shiro is a very strong scumplayer from when we met during team mafia. i was under the impression Tarou was a poor kill

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Ftr this is Mollie, and Mastina and I are still hammering out our reads.

Wow I got so excited about getting to play in this game, I forgot what I had to say.

i admire you actually being excited over this game

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were you under the impression a kingmaker had to be town..?

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Why are scum terrified of provable roles in a randomly generated setup -- why would that matter to them? And why is this so obvious?

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Not just to the point where they think about killing Tarou (and Kop) but also to the point where both teams want to..? If I recall right Kop wasn't heavily townread either. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Not sure there's anything useful to be gained other than that i have one less wrong avenue to go down

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Titus is caught up in law business stuff, what's Yuki's reason for not playing? Enchant's? Lol best i got for ya

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presumably their role is like an activated inverse treestump

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is it obvious to everyone else that confirmable roles prove a threat to scum and im crazy

or am i right that in a randomly generated setup that shouldnt matter at all. What am i getting wrong here?

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were you under the impression a kingmaker had to be town..?

yea im pretty sure a kingmaker has to be town lol

Why? Especially in the case of multiball, i dont see why it'd have to be at all. it could kingmake anyone after all

I guess i wasnt under the impression Tarou was impossible to elim via dayplay. I feel like everyone here could be eliminated, there are no blatant town, just ones i find less likely

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Is this setup not randomly made? Is it supposed to be balanced?

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I didn't say I was open to voting everyone. I said that I wouldn't be surprised at anyone flipping scum. As in, if RR, Dwlee, you, and Enchant to a small extent flipped scum, I wouldn't be surprised that I got it wrong.

This game I haven't had much confidence

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Also for the record keeping all options available is far less likely to be a scum tactic and more likely me being wiffly waffly. I am usually pretty static as scum as i recall

like my point is I dont have the investment in my reads to be very confident about them, not that i dont have reads

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Is this setup not randomly made? Is it supposed to be balanced?

First; YES.. it's supposed to be balanced.
Second: Define "random". ALL games are "randomized" for role distribution. I believe AI still has the basic common sense to not give a Vigilante to Scum for instance.

i... dont know why you're expecting that from the AI. I have been under the impression this setup is a total mishmash like a grand idea or astral roles might be

Like someone could get "Macho" but another person could get "triple vigilante" types of dumb

Also the mastinas dying at the start of the game contributing to this feeling

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contributed* As in I didnt realize they could come back and i just assumed their role was "You're dead but you can post 100 characters every once in a while lol"

I have been trying fairly hard at various points of the game but i feel like i can't get much further than what i have which is a shaky town pool and a bunch of question marks

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I was going to take it as scummy from players who thought the Tarou kill was obvious but i see now it apparently was obvious to everyone so nevermind *shrug*

VOTE: Yuki
VOTE: Pooky
VOTE: worstie
VOTE: Titus

and maybe one in Gamma/Skybird but probably not both

VOTE: worst

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it's my first day at my new job today so im gonna go back to panicking about that

pedit: hahahaha i got u

Bottom three is Yuki/worst/Titus

upper three at the bottom is like pooky/sky/gamma but pooky is a little worse

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So like

Dwlee99
RR
A50
Gamma, Skybird
Pooky
Titus, Yuki
worstie

and if i forgot anyone they're scum or i dont care anymore

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Oh my god i forgot enchant

I actually don't lean that he's scum but like my reasoning could still be wrong

probably like

Dwlee99
RR
A50
Enchant
Gamma, Skybird
Pooky
Titus, Yuki
worstie

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I can't believe you haven't locktown'd me yet for being totally adorable and completely lost

you dont seem lost you just seem angery!! :(

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like with the players for not playing ur game and also for suspecting u and also at the mastinas

Like i had to do a double take cause ur confusing but no u came across as frustrated to me

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I THOUGHT SOLVING AT ALL WAS THE BAR FOR HIM BEING TOWN WHICH IS IT

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like with the players for not playing ur game and also for suspecting u and also at the mastinas

Like i had to do a double take cause ur confusing but no u came across as frustrated to me

cause ur confusing me*

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I don't have a night action

and if I did I sure as hell wouldn't visit some party lol

2m

ReadsL=N2
Game >rand
DON'T lim Ari
PLEASE lim PTMB
MT=powerwolf OR

gem

lol how am I supposed to even tell from this that it's a mollie read and not a mastina read

if i was psychic i'd be like unstoppable

and also has mollie even played with me before

also not really feeling motivated to try much in a game where half the players wont fill out a simple preference survey

r u really giving me shit for not analyzing a survey that half the fucking game didnt even bother to fill out

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this isn't even really relevant i was just saying that it didnt seem like you were having fun or really caring about the game so i wasnt sure how to read that

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Not tryharding was a good move for the record this game has mostly just made me feel stupid and it hasnt been worth it thus far

Except mastinas made me feel good so i appreciate them

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Okay and did Tarou's evaluation of Ari being super in his scum meta, was that an accurate meta read?

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i ask because you were adamant about Ari being town but if he's apparently in his scum meta I am wondering why you use Pooky's meta but not Ari's. Obviously could be off the mark though

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1521 comes off as very frustrated

In any case are you drawing a conclusion from me seeing you as unhappy with the game or do you just disagree

I just dont think ur having fun

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I think your bat nature got the best of you. You're blind, I get that, but you're not using your "sonar" either.

i dont have sonar!! I'm a fruit bat!!!

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first the blind bat stereotype, second the rodent comparison, ohhh what's next! (ノ﹏ヽ)

luv u pooki

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i think nd had a predetermined alignment ratio but then the actual names were randomized

and he didnt know who was what alignment or how many he had cause then he could feasibly just openclaim that

also my first day on the job is abt to begin im scared

welcome back Titus!

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what do you mean he didnt get names

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where did i go as in activity or last game night

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i have been sleeping all day to recover from overnight work but right now i am playing irelia top

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i dont really understand what's going on with Dwlee and RR if one is mechanically guilty okay

But if there's any ambiguity i'd rather vote worstie by far especially considering the confusing nature of this game

Why would RR claim something like FN falsely without having knowledge of Dwlee visiting them? I dont really see

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how am i supposed to know which of your reads are bullshit and which are real

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Also I can't say ive ever paid attention to people softing roles as town ever so i dont really get why you're so jaded about it, i dont have much reason to hunt PRs and if i hunt and im wrong then that's even worse

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Yea okay mate, just do what you want. i'll vote gamma or worst

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gamma are you going to claim?

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Oh nevermind

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I'm sure someone can tell whether or not meg was a good vig shot (i dont remember anything of meg)

in the meantime

VOTE: Worstie

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Why are you voting gamma if you recognize that vig resolves itself

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Can we please eliminate worst

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will it not be resolved if A50 is fakeclaiming? And RR? and whoever?

the simplest solution would be to believe it at least for the time being, i would think. But correct me if I'm wrong

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ari meta (maybe, conflicting sources on that), ari's role might just be a fakeclaim, worst dropped off, worst came in suspecting me which was just a little off, ???

that's all i got

I am fine just letting the claims resolve themselves as i figure they should at least partly

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I thought the mastinas hard townread A50 and i was using that as part of the basis for my read there so womp womp wommgpppppm

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pretty sure gamma claimed vig before A50 claimed correct if wrong

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also pretty sure Dwlee only realized today because RR thing happened last night

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Don't know about death knight point

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Wait are you implying a guilty on me titus..?

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I'm noticing a weird pattern of people "gut scumreading" me this game and im not entirely sure i get why

the only thing special about my play this game is it has mostly felt like im speaking and not getting anywhere due to either a lack of effort or care to understand the mechanics and/or half the game literally not being present

pedit: I meant I'm not sure role name has anything to do with anything

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You know if you would sign your posts it'd be a lot less confusing

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you might speak entirely different but I haven't played with mollie before soo I can't really help it. In general I am not good with identifying people on a hydra unless I know them well. My point is just you shouldn't give people shit for not knowing, it can be pretty tricky for some

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Then VOTE ME first

^ if you're going to disregard an innocent then like yeah

*forehead rub*

i............... dont care what we do as much right now. Worstie and Yuki are literally both fine. worstie i think is scummier but really only because yuki has self meta and worsti sort of kinda dropped out out of nowhere

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yeesh

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BTW haven't run this by mollie and haven't read the game since my post last night, but I think that the game could be CLOSE to an autowin if we take into account the following:
RR is conftown via Dwlee;
Dwlee is town for conftowning RR;
Pooky is town from A50;
A50 is town via claim;
Gamma is town via the Vig claim.
Given that we're conftown, that's six clears with 14 alive.
Get two more, and the game gets to autowin territory.

But obviously, I need to read, and to synch up with mollie.

votecount 3.2

The Worst (6) :

Morning Tweet ; Almost50 ; Pookythemagicalbear ; Gamma Emerald ; Skybird ; Yuki Takeya

Exe-1

Yuki Takeya (3) :

The 2 Mastinas ; Enchant ; Titus

Pookythemagicalbear (1) :

The Worst

Dwlee99 (1) :

Hated

Not Voting (2) : Radical Rat ; Dwlee99 ; Titus

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-11-13 05:30:46), it takes 7 votes to execute someone

Radical Rat
Dwlee99
Pooky
A50
Gamma
2 mastinas

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Morning
Skybird
Yuki
Enchant
Titus
worstie

There's some problems with your theory but ill hold my tongue for now. I think we've been given a chance here with worstie and some of these claims though yeah

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Well that's not exactly what i was getting at but to answer your question, she claimed a type of cop that is apparently very likely to produce false results. even worse than A50, i get the impression.

so either she is town telling the truth but her results can't clear, or she's scum claiming a sort of cop that is probably meant to find the other multiball or is just otherwise fakeclaiming. It's also possible her actual role is more powerful but she nerfed it to not have to deal with giving clears and creating an autowin for us

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i dont know if i should be mentioning these things so soon. On one hand i can see good reasons for giving my verdict on which claims are likely and which can't be sure on, but i can see bad ones too. I'm so terrible when it comes to role business

I think just talking about that read will be fine

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No offense worst but saving those posts until after they no longer mattered was kind of infuriating

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Does that kill point to something? Do i even care at this point? Should we start claiming? answers to these questions and more, latedr

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someone asked me about my enchant read, it's based on comparing his play to PyP and Radio Buzz (scum games). basically what i found different was the level of Enchant's analysis, as well as effort. his reads were super low detail in PyP, and his effort was really high in Radio Buzz (despite being a doomed slot). from what i skimmed of his posts, he goes into more detail than "X is town / scum" (which he did in PyP), but also doesn't really seem to care about this game. For example, he forgot he was in the game at least once. It's an odd contrast to radio buzz where he tryharded in a really terrible position

of course, I'm reading into what is almost not even there, but that was my thinking

I continuously forget Enchant is even in the game so if he's town i won't feel bad

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the 1000 IQ Pooky/A50 team versus the 2 IQ Yuki/someone team

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why would you kill the self proclaimed unreliable investigative over the one who already has a clear

not even a rhetorical question im genuinely curious and if tarou is any indication I am useless at understanding scum kill motivation

And where's the second kill this time?

Come on there's so much we could talk about we just need to do it and maybe something will become clear

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Oh that's huge

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Elaborate on what you mean by uninvestigatable. Is it possible you were roleblocked?

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also for the record im not uninvestigatable

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Also fuck off with calling me spewing junk I have been trying way too hard for this game

You might like to get it clarified whether or not you were roleblocked (or pretend to) and then i can elaborate for you

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You know what I was doing redactedwise why would you immediately jump to calling me silent?

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So in other words, you were roleblocked

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I am the High Priestess of Azura's Hand, capable of targetting a player at night. If they attempt to attack someone or are attacked, I roleblock them and their visitors.

I was under the impression i got feedback if i was successful but i was mistaken

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So basically, if you're town, your aggressiveness towards me is really fucking annoying

Also remember when i bitched about the Tarou kill and also immediately talked about titus today, that was me implying i cared about the kills

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now out of curiosity, why did you target me rather than like Yuki who has probably the highest chance of being eliminated at some point in the game

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me or A50?

I targeted Dwlee -> A50

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What are you talking about? If Yuki gets cleared that is literally the biggest thing you can do

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And yeah if Yuki is guiltied it's not as helpful but like, that's kind of the point. you're saving a mislim or confirming it

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Mom didn't do anything N1 and neither did I

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What are you talking about? If Yuki gets cleared that is literally the biggest thing you can do

Clearing me?
Nah?

I can't even remember you're in the game for more than 10 seconds at a time after your posts but yes you also fall in the category of people who are likely to either need a clear or die before the end of the game.

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Whatever the night I entered the game in i didnt do anything

then i targetted Dwlee

then last night i targetted A50

Gypyx didnt mention anything about what Mom did and i am pretty sure they did not act

Is this particularly useful for you to solve me Enchant or is this busywork?

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i do not know what governs the night kill pattern of this game but I see your point now

There's probably an infinite number of reasons given the setup but if i had to guess one of the factions has a certain number of kills

Or if its not multiball then they just have multiple kills

or maybe there's a role with a kill that is conditional

That or A50 is just scum which I don't favour although I hate that he's implying that I'm scum somehow from him not getting a result. Like the abrasiveness was not warranted at all and is especially ironic if i saved his life for him to do this

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Been spending my time last night trying to re-read the game and look at it from a different angle. My fear is we have tr someone who's scum. I don't have any revelations though.

I think Titus was killed because she was going to be able to check someone last night and scum was afraid that one of them would be checked.

that doesn't make sense given that Titus said her investigations only worked somewhat reliably on town as i recall. if scum were thinking they were next in line i wouldve thought kill A50 (and that might be correct)

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why would she target a TR if her ability can only get innocents

Unless scum were under the impression she could guilty them..?

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Read my role again

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Holy shit

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I don't roleblock unless my target is attacked or gets attacked

I'm a protector not a roleblocker

And I don't find A50/Pooky to be the most likely that's why I protected him putting faith he was a town PR

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The only reason i brought up A50/Pooky is because worstie's hero solve was a50/pooky megaminding the game

That combined with you not even taking the time to read my roleclaim

Oh my fucking god

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You said so much shit that isn't true and i dont know if that's a failure on my part to communicate or on yours to read

but it's making me too upset to even bother playing

pedit: What the fuck

Are you talking about

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I am saying it is most likely that A50 got roleblocked because I saved him. it's also possible he's scum who got roleblocked due to my secondary function and is bothering with an uninvestigatible shtick because i dont know why

It doesn't matter if A50 attacked me or not i would roleblock any attacking action on him or from him

I was joking when i said the 5000 iq A50/pooky because i thought it'd be funny if true.

Am i making sense yet?

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I target A50 and it roleblocks him if he attacks or gets attacked

I'm basically jailkeeper

In most worlds he got attacked because he can make clears and i was banking on that

But it is possible he also tried to attack someone yes

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IT'S A MADE UP ROLE MASTINA

IT'S CALLED THE HIGH PRIESTESS OF AZURA'S HAND

IS THAT IN THE WIKI?

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It also roleblocks his visitors, that's the saving part

It's like a town of salem werewolf that roelblocks instead of kills for lack of a better explanation

Am i making sense to anyone

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I target A50. if he gets attacked or is attacked I roleblock him and his visitors. It's a jailkeeper that activates only when there's a killing action. Does that explain it

I targetted with the intent to save rather than block because i generally dont think it's worth it to try for a maybe guilty when i thought protecting would be easier

Again that is why I spent so much time harping on the Tarou kill asi t made no sense to me and made sense to literally everyone else

How the fuck I'm getting construed as scum because of this is beyond me

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I don't understand why A50 is accusing me of being scum coming into today so that played into it too. I agree with you that he obviously isn't a fucking cop if scum or at least not in a way that matters and he would just be making his results up. He wouldn't have to make this one up though because presumably he knows he was roleblocked.

I'm sorry that I'm not more set on my reads this game i guess. God I'm so tired of this game and if i get eliminated that's just the cherry on top

pedit: OH MY FUCKING GOD

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THE ROLE IS NOT JAILKEEPER

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IT ONLY ROLEBLOCKS IF HE GETS ATTACXKED

IF A50 SURVIVES IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH HIS RESULT

IF HE GETS ATTACKED IT SAVES HIM AND I THOUGHT IT TOLD ME BUT IT DOESNT

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IT DIDNT ROLEBLOCK DWLEE

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HOLY SHIT

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PLEASE READ MY CLAIM BEFORE CONTINUING TO SAY THAT STUFFA ND PLEASE UNVOTE

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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME

This is making me lose my fucking mind and it shouldnt. i really shouldnt care. but this misunderstanding is just like hurting me physically

I am so sorry for yelling

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Please read how the claim works

Everything you said about me makes no sense because im failing to explain what my role does i guess

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Oh my fucking god

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You want it in normal terms, lemme think

Violence-Conditional Rampaging Roleblocker

how's that work

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it's shit like "Why didn't you mention that Dwlee claimed an action?" and "Why would you roleblock a cop?" that infuriates me

You aren't even reading what im saying

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So you're just going to continue to think anything you said made sense

Alright

Please by all means then

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pooky i need a hug

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Thank god you at least read the role.

Your meta is wrong then but i mean, most of your scumreads tend to be that way so i'm not terribly surprised

also what are you talking about with regards to dark in the name

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Oh

i'm really sorry for getting angry mastinas. I thought you were purposefully ignoring me

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MT, have you been explicitly told by the mod your slot did nothing N1, or did you just assume that?

I assumed but i just got confirmation she didnt

Also, I have other reason to be pretty sure she didnt

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i think her ate is p far out of her scumrange

a shame too cuz I was totally ready to scumread her for old time's sake

what?!? impossible

i'd find this really funny if i were less upset right now

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Thank god you at least read the role.

Your meta is wrong then but i mean, most of your scumreads tend to be that way so i'm not terribly surprised

also what are you talking about with regards to dark in the name

We are a hydra. None of my scumreads have flipped except Kop.

My townreads sure are flipping town though. I don't I am as far off as you would like everyone to believe.

i knew all of your or almost all of your scumreads were town the moment i replaced into the slot

If you're trying to say im discrediting you because i need to, you're wrong. i'm just irritated

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Now had you led with "Mom is scummy because xxxxxxx whatever" i wouldnt have gotten upset since i dont really care about that

but you (i had thought) willfully ignoring what i was saying was so, so upsetting. but now it seems like you were just confirm biased by the mom read, which makes more sense. Nothing you said about my role is right. You're just reading Mom then which is fine

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i would implore you to start thinking about the implications of my ability triggering last night, the sooner the better

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If that's true i just went through all of that pain for absolutely no reason

I prefer starting with Yuki but honestly im not going to review past what ive done

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Actually if Yuki is town the Titus kill makes more sense you might be right

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the only reason i care is because im not really sure how many town eliminations we have left

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Like if you're gonna go through the PoE in perfect order what is it

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Actually, assuming A50/Pooky/RR/Dwlee/2mastinas/Gamma/Morning town, is there room for anything else?

Maybe that's why scum cares so much about clears I suppose

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in any case im fine voting later tonight

.....After mislimming 3 times in a row we're still on track to autowin?

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im not to be sheeped ive already been wrong twice

Well, NDMath i was sort of right i guess i dont know

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hehe

VOTE: Enchant

If Enchant is town and we lose then whatever actually

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3

or

2 and 2

is what i have been operating under the assumption of

Or maybe it's like 3 and a SK-like

Also why are you asking me

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If it's 2 and 2 we'd lose to another townie elim but if it's singleball then we'd have one more since NDMath wasn't town

I think

Either way it doesnt really change how i play so i guess i haven't been giving that much thought to it

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im sorry A50 i had no idea that scum had a commuter

i vaguely remember Kop's role and i didnt put together his killer would have a commuter. Actually was kop who Gamma shot or was that Meg. Either way i have not been thinking about that at all

But you're right that i shouldn't have gotten angry

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Yes my preference was Yuki

But the Titus kill sort of implies not Yuki so whatever

you getting me as scum with Enchant for not having him as my first pick makes no sense. Why would I care if Enchant is always going to be PoE. Do you really think my goal is to defend Enchant if i were his partner? I promise i would be keeping him away with a ten foot pole

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This doesnt even really matter if im right and it is Yuki and not enchant i dont know why i respond

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pooky is only scum if a50 is scum...?

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As long as we eliminate at least Yuki and Enchant before me then thats fine

i can be pretty content with that analysis

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I didn't really think about claiming miller im not really used to claim stuff

Also do you know what an Azura's hand is? What is a wicker man? That point is not good

and as for caught for the wrong reasons, well it's more like you try really hard to make something out of a game cause you like replacing but you eliminate town and then you fail protects and then you get suspected for reasons that don't make sense and there's nothing you can do about it. Something along those lines set me off i think

it's fine now though

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I wasnt really under the impression i was PoE though, I more just thought that was your read

had i thought i was a viable mislim maybe i would have noticed

I feel just about as obviously in my town meta as i ever have, i exited it longer ago than i can remember. Like look at my post count. Scum terrifies me, and yes even multiball

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getting aggravated in of itself isn't necessarily alignment indicative

Although i struggle to see why I would care about this game even slightly as scum. Obviously I dont expect you to know that and i wont hold you to it though

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UNVOTE:

Player of my caliber...?

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I actually have no idea who you're referring to as "she" there

I'm going to be honest with you i have felt like ive been seeing red ever since you revived

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I'm sorry to say that you were mistaken if you got the impression im a strong player, at least to the standard you're holding me. I literally could not remember Enchant was in the game numerous times. I'm really not sure what you're accusing me of missing though -- something to do with his role

pedit: I don't react well to certain types of pressure

I have an insane headache from today but i want to at least understand. I'll get to it as soon as i can

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VOTE: Dwlee99

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holding it in progress

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Oh no

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Are you sure that applies to tracker? I'm pretty sure that's a role called "gravedigger" and it wouldn't apply to universal miller

Dwlee is just guilty

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Universal miller implies they're guilty to cops, seers, cult theorists, whatever.

Yuki saw Dwlee kill Titus. There's no millering out of that.

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you should trusssssst the process, RR....

I'm acting with the kingdom's best interests in mind

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You don't trust me..?

Dwlee is guilty! There's nothing more to it.

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Dwlee's own guilty conscience over viciously condeming two townies counts for two votes, I suppose, yes....

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Yup and we're planning to convert SK if they reveal themselves quickly enough

personally, my money is on it being Skybird. Although perhaps that's too obvious